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Offline SirPhilipXX

Because if you read the medical evidence then you would know that brushing and flossing teeth is the worst thing you can do just before a meet. Brushing and flossing scratches gums and causes tiny lesions/bleeding so effectively you would be kissing a potential open wound.  Use mouth wash beforehand naturally but never brush your teeth within the few hours before a meet.

Good point, but then all physical contact with a stranger involves some element of health risk,; we can only minimise the risk, not eliminate it. I agree, use mouth wash: I keep a bottle of Listerine in the car for this purpose.

I find it depressing how many contributors to this thread seem to think that just because they are paying for sex, the WG has no right to expect them to turn up freshly showered and with fresh breath. It is basic good manners, isn't it?
I use a private dentist, and I would not dream of turning up at her surgery with foul smelling breath.

Offline dandaley

Good point, but then all physical contact with a stranger involves some element of health risk,; we can only minimise the risk, not eliminate it. I agree, use mouth wash: I keep a bottle of Listerine in the car for this purpose.

I find it depressing how many contributors to this thread seem to think that just because they are paying for sex, the WG has no right to expect them to turn up freshly showered and with fresh breath. It is basic good manners, isn't it?
I use a private dentist, and I would not dream of turning up at her surgery with foul smelling breath.

agree 100%  :thumbsup: no excuse for bad hygiene or bad breath, basic respect.

Offline NIK

Oh please Ellwood! Ok, maybe not immediately before, the night before maybe?

If you're going to treat a WG like someone you've paid money too and therefore should try and get the most out of, this will not make for the nicest possible experience.

But if you treat the WG like the precious human being that she is, with lots of care and respect, most likely she will bend over backwards to ensure you have the best experience possible. Maintaining good hygiene is part of that respect!

MWG leaves again.  :D


Offline Persie

when us women get together we have a good moan. Many of us are isolated and have no one to talk to. Saafe is a place where us girls can be honest and frank to each other. If it pisses you off what is being said their then stop reading it. I have never been in a job where people havn't bitched about the customers/clients ever. You are doing nothing but annoying yourself by going on there and reading it! I also say the same thing to the girls that bitch about this board. Basically the board isn't to keep punters happy it's to support escorts.

I think what you have said is really daft. One the one hand, you treat this as a business and a business relationship and on the other hand, you want us to accept that as women and 'bitch and moan'. Absolutely every business always has issues with clients.

But no sensible business person would moan about their clients in public - its just naive
Banning reason: Stalking prossies on Facebook and threatening to out them

Offline dumpster123

I think what you have said is really daft.

There's no point in talking to her she's been banned.

Do you think what she said was daft enough to get banned?


Offline Jimmyredcab


Do you think what she said was daft enough to get banned?

I think we can survive without her -------------------- just worry about yourself, not others.    :hi:

Offline dj3k

I think what you have said is really daft. One the one hand, you treat this as a business and a business relationship and on the other hand, you want us to accept that as women and 'bitch and moan'. Absolutely every business always has issues with clients.

But no sensible business person would moan about their clients in public - its just naive

I can understand why women who escort can feel isolated and wanting to let off stream. But escorting and punting is not for the sensitive type, and I do feel that now, with an increase in financial problems, many women, be it students or professionals turn to prostitution for that extra source of income, with out realising the reality of it.  Hence the need to complain.

It can be brutal on both sides, women are continually putting themselves at risk from assault or treated roughly, BUT also us punters take risks each time we see a new women, pimps, crazy women - I've had my share of that, but for me it's the thrill of the first time with someone who I usually can't get keeps me going.


Offline ParisB

I think what you have said is really daft. One the one hand, you treat this as a business and a business relationship and on the other hand, you want us to accept that as women and 'bitch and moan'. Absolutely every business always has issues with clients.

But no sensible business person would moan about their clients in public - its just naive


Well Gerald Ratner did and look what happened to him 

Offline Admin

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There's no point in talking to her she's been banned.

Do you think what she said was daft enough to get banned?

NIK banned her because she's a previously banned member plus has an attitude towards punters that isn't compatible with this site's ethos, which should be plainly obvious.
Now from your past dozen posts it's obvious that you suffer from white knight syndrome and have issues with the way this site is, so you can join her on the banned list as well.

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I assume there is nothing stopping punters from joining that forum? There are some threads that I would like to respond to.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I assume there is nothing stopping punters from joining that forum? There are some threads that I would like to respond to.

I don't think punters are made welcome ----------------------- I know I wouldn't be welcome that's for sure.   :D

Offline NIK

I don't think punters are made welcome ----------------------- I know I wouldn't be welcome that's for sure.   :D


I would!  :lol: :lol: :cool:

Offline dj3k

Looking at that site, and the advise they give the women, seriously considering setting up a service that offers wg / escort training so newbie WG can give a good punt.

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Looking at that site, and the advise they give the women, seriously considering setting up a service that offers wg / escort training so newbie WG can give a good punt.

aye agree, the best place to get "advice" from is the punter.

Offline dj3k

aye agree, the best place to get "advice" from is the punter.

All done, adjusted my AW profile to offering escort training services. £50 an hour - quality top class training service - special introductory price.

Let's see if I get any sales  :D

Offline theotherside

aye agree, the best place to get "advice" from is the punter.

Actually I think its a mixture of both and being careful who you actually take your advice from. I don't think a punter would have very good advice on safety, vetting clients, advertising and the like.

This forum has been a great resource for me in other ways. DFK for example. I didn't realise that it was such a big deal and although its not my style I properly adapt to the clients kissing technique. Looking at the bad reviews and the good reviews can be helpful. I do choose what threads I look at carefully as I am sure there is some stuff written here that will really offend my feminists ways but as stephen fry says



Offline Jimmyredcab

Actually I think its a mixture of both and being careful who you actually take your advice from. I don't think a punter would have very good advice on safety, vetting clients, advertising and the like.

Prostitution is a dangerous occupation, there is only so much you can do regarding safety and vetting clients, unless you have a 16 stone minder in the next room you will always be at risk.

Most sensible punters use unregistered SIM cards in their phone so forget about that element of security.

Some girls want to see the punter first (from a window) ---------- also totally useless, a rapist or robber will probably look like a very normal guy.

Offline Cornish sub

I can understand why women who escort can feel isolated and wanting to let off stream.
I think they call that squirting  :lol:

Offline Dani

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The thing is Saafe was I think and as far as I am aware originally set up to give advice on certain topics to do with the job to new and maybe naïve prossies. As in safety tips, how to spot a timewaster, tips on the legalities, and was there to help those who did not know what to do safety wise to try and stop so many prossies from coming to harm and to work in a safe (as safe as one can be in this job) environment.  The forum was added on and again for the same reason but it has now become in some threads a place to just whinge and moan, which should be kept to their own blogs, as these threads tend to take away from the seriousness of the site.
A couple of years ago it was more of a site where people asked questions and needed advice and was not a place to just moan about clients all the time.  It was for good advice and also the dangerous punter thread which thankfully doesn't have too much crap in it as the timewasters have their own section now.  I don't see the point of it as some report every timewaster they get and don't realise that section is for persistant time wasters not just a one off no show.

The idea of the forum is good but every forum is only as good as those that post on it and sometimes it does attract those who just want to constantly whinge about clients and how much they hate doing this or that, instead of just not doing it in the first place.

I don't agree that punters on there would help as its main intention is for advice for newer girls who don't have any way of finding out the aspects they need to know. Having men on there who may well give advice that could get a girl hurt or worse (not all men have the girls best interest at heart and some are just plain nasty and they are the ones that would rush to be members) or to learn all the safety tips given out (so they can by pass them) would not be the safest option.

I don't think it was set up to be a general chat forum and Amy does her best to keep idol chit chat off the forum to try and keep it as close to an advice forum as she can

Online Ali Katt

Good points. I would disagree that girls should whinge on their blogs. If every blog post is "another timewaster" - I won't bother seeing her, no matter how much I fancy her, as she will probably be a moody bastard in real life, that's my perception.

It's a topic in itself, but some so-classed timewasters choose to walk due to not liking the goods on offer. When pictures are heavily airbrushed, ages have 10 years knocked off or are fake - is there any wonder?

Offline AnthG

I don't agree that punters on there would help as its main intention is for advice for newer girls who don't have any way of finding out the aspects they need to know. Having men on there who may well give advice that could get a girl hurt or worse (not all men have the girls best interest at heart and some are just plain nasty and they are the ones that would rush to be members) or to learn all the safety tips given out (so they can by pass them) would not be the safest option.

What Saafe needs in my opinion is a trust button. So people found to be giving good advice get a +5. And those giving poor advice get a -5 against their name. You could also set it so the mods have a plus 50 button and negative 50 button so their have more power to set who is trusted or not.

And thus girls can then see and use the scores against someones name to decide whether to accept what advice given is good advice or not.

The problem is at the moment a lot of the times the advice given is bad and you often read the thread saying to yourself I bet that OP is going to accept that one.

Offline Dani

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Anth I agree sometimes the advice is not good but that is going to be the same on any type of forum where lots of people have differing opinions especially if some of you are competing for work in the same area.
For instance girl A and girl B both have similar build and looks and offer the same services.  Girl A asks if she should lower her prices as she is not busy enough, Girl B is going to say no don't as it could affect her business.  Yet girl C who is not competing with either of them for one reason or another be it area, size, age or services is going to say lower them and see if it helps and if it does all is good but if you get too much work then slowly raise them up until you get just the right amount of clients but don't over price yourself.
Of course you will then get girl D and E screaming to not lower your prices as it will cause problems for everybody and we should all stick together and try to raise prices.
It will never change. Some people will always think we should all stick together and conform to what they want whilst others will have their own ideas of what is right. 
Advice is just that.  Advice and girls can choose to ignore it if they want to or if they think it is wrong. Then you get those that don't know what to do so go with the ones that scream the loudest.

Every forum is the same.  Look at how people tend to disagree on here over some topics.  We all have our own opinions and we normally think our opinion is the right one regardless of if it really is or not. 


Offline dilettante

Latest from SAAFE - curvy_girly is discussing "Getting a restraining order" with a rapt audience of prossies "resting" in their online green room:

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I have just had my life threatened over the phone, It was my ex ... He said if he ever saw me again he would gut me and snap my neck.

Then in the next sentence:

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I also owe him 600 pound which I am thinking of writing off all together...

Thieving skank, what does she expect, pay the bloke what she owes him FFS!!!  Do these girls not have any idea of a social conscience or moral decency whatever, or is that just what the job does to them? (with apologies to Dani and all the other WG contributors we're lucky to have on UKP)


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