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Offline Trex

Hey Guys,

I spoke to my mate yesterday and he told me about getting a credit card to watch porn it's a new UK law which will block over 18 sites in April 2018.

I thought he was joking but I check it online and he wasn't joking after all.

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Offline HarryZZ

I don't have  credit card, I'll have to borrow the wife's  :scare:

Offline Silver Birch

Will that include adult sites like Adultwork and UKP?

Offline Paris69

For me, this will be the key element of the Act...

It sets out other new laws 'including punishing the use of bots to snatch up scores of concert tickets'...
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Offline shagmore

For me, this will be the key element of the Act...

It sets out other new laws 'including punishing the use of bots to snatch up scores of concert tickets'...

And so it should, but leave the porn alone

Offline jeanphillipe

The age-check requirement applies to any website or other online platform that provides pornography "on a commercial basis" to people in the UK.

you dont pay for porn at pornhub/xvideos etc so....

its not hard to get anonymous credit card details tho..

theres always a way...

Offline Trex

Will that include adult sites like Adultwork and UKP?

Most likely because it's over 18 sites but we will find out soon.

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its not hard to get anonymous credit card details tho..

theres always a way...

You need credit card and email address to access it but I think it's going to be a pain in arse to be honest.

Offline Avg_Joe

another useless uk attempt to control the internet.

worked so well for virginmedia and certian warez sites, one click on the vpn icon in my taskbar and voila, i'm surfing from russia, when will the idiots in the government learm these types of things just don't work


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But details as to how the scheme will work have yet to be finalised.
promise something they have no clue how to deliver.... doh!
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Offline Trex

another useless uk attempt to control the internet.

worked so well for virginmedia and certian warez sites, one click on the vpn icon in my taskbar and voila, i'm surfing from russia, when will the idiots in the government learm these types of things just don't work

promise something they have no clue how to deliver.... doh!

They are breaching my human rights feels like the UK is turning into China for doing this.
I think the reason why there doing this because a lot of underage boys watching porn and some might  register on this site too. If you have a bad credit score then you can't get a credit card and access over 18 sites.

Offline Scarboroughdude

You could use a VPN service to hide your internet address and bypass the age checks, Google VPN.

Offline Romney

Will that include adult sites like Adultwork and UKP?

That would be awful.  If that happens, maybe admin could setup non adult sounding domain names that redirect to ukp and UKE?  Though I have no idea if something like that would work or is even possible.

Offline Sticky

If the law in any way affected UKP and UKE then there'd be a notice up on here by now explaining the situation and what we need to do to continue access to the site(s).

These changes were only brought about so that it makes it look to the IT illiterate parent like the politicians are doing something about it. Practically nothing will be changed, much less with immediate effect.

People will still be able to view PornHub, Xhamster etc without needing to log in or present a credit card or use a VPN after April. Want to join Stormy Daniels' site and see the famous carrot hole though and you'll need to produce a credit card. Just like you had to before.

Offline Itsnotshy

They are breaching my human rights feels like the UK is turning into China for doing this.
I think the reason why there doing this because a lot of underage boys watching porn and some might  register on this site too. If you have a bad credit score then you can't get a credit card and access over 18 sites.
I read somewhere that 30% of the adult pop does not have a credit card,so 30% of adults will be treated like kiddie widdies from April.
It stinks!!!!!
Just as well i knew about this 18 months ago,twitter does have it's uses, and have been downloading porn ever since.This law has been mentioned a number of times on here too. I've got about 2 TB on flash drives,probably enough wank material for a decade or two.
Always good to have a backup plan.
Still time to do some downloading while you can.






Offline myothernameis

If the law in any way affected UKP and UKE then there'd be a notice up on here by now explaining the situation and what we need to do to continue access to the site

Who exactly would be responsible for telling us this, apart from reading this on ukp, I see no other place telling us, apart from the news items, which I only know of from here

Would have thought the your internet provider would have some responsibility to tell us, if anything

There no way I'm going to use my credit card to verify that I'm over 18, not unless it can be proven my details will be safe 100%

Offline Plan R

Good I'm trying to cut down on the wanking anyway, this ridiculous law may help.. I've developed prison hand and it's affecting my performance

Offline tesla

Will that include adult sites like Adultwork and UKP?

it is already in place on AW, go to "my details" and in the drop down menu there is a link to Age Verification,


Offline Jumping Jack Flash

I read somewhere that 30% of the adult pop does not have a credit card,so 30% of adults will be treated like kiddie widdies from April.
It stinks!!!!!
Just as well i knew about this 18 months ago,twitter does have it's uses, and have been downloading porn ever since.This law has been mentioned a number of times on here too. I've got about 2 TB on flash drives,probably enough wank material for a decade or two.
Always good to have a backup plan.
Still time to do some downloading while you can.

That’s a bit extreme when you can use a VPN service.

Online Sinz

Well just use VPNs, a proxy browser or TOR

The block is only for IPs accessing from UK I presume and that is if it ever gets implemented in the right way.

The regulatory bodies will never be able enforce the websites to apply the rule across the world. Again a dumb move from the muppets who think they can control the internet.

If anything they are going to create more online fraud and scam related issues in the UK and will have to deal with that issue.

How thick could they be to make it mandatory to disclose personal details and credit card information to untrusted porn sites.  :dash:



Offline Itsnotshy

That’s a bit extreme when you can use a VPN service.
But how long before they ban VPNs or block the free websites for being non compliant with BBFC regulations.
I agree it is extreme.Not to mention the time it's taken to download about 4000 clips,loops and movies, but I remember the times when a poor quality VHS would cost £20 and don't want to go back to those days again.
Best to cover all the bases if you can.

Offline Sticky

But how long before they ban VPNs or block the free websites for being non compliant with BBFC regulations.

If China can't manage it, I don't think we'll have much problem.

Everyone's just over-reacting for whatever their reasons are. Credit cards won't be needed, private data will stay secure and we'll all continue to be able to wank to UKE pics in the toilets at work.

Offline BarryProudfoot

For me, this will be the key element of the Act...

It sets out other new laws 'including punishing the use of bots to snatch up scores of concert tickets'...

Apparently anyone selling tickets on a secondary market site from April will need to provide their full name, address and the face value of the ticket.

Offline jonfantastic

Quite a long article, but worth a read if you're interested in how the company behind PornHub et al is looking to turn this to its advantage.

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Offline Avg_Joe

the way payment services are going with mobile phones, half the chavs wont have credit cards soon, it'll all be done on their phones
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This law is supposed to only affect "commercial" sites, see the first three paragraphs:
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So strangely if a site is proven to be 100% free then it makes it outside of that law and could have hardcore videos open for all. You'd expect them to realize their "flawed" law and a future law to "fix" that.

A government document published (can't find link) makes it clear that a site will be regarded as "commercial" even if it was free should it have adverts, i.e. PornHub makes it money from adverts, so it is included. Free sites that make affiliate income / earn a commission from referring sales to another commercial site are again included.

The quango BBFC says even if a site didn't have pics or video than just the text alone can make it require age verification, it's all about whether the content is "produced
solely or principally for the purposes of sexual arousal"
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So whether UKP is affected is a grey area. Despite UKP being 100% free and without a single advert, either free or paid, the quango could find it hard to believe, you can see even some punters, prossies and pimps find it hard to believe.

Again whether agency or parlour sites are affected is a grey area. I guess they will remove nude pics just to be safer.

Regarding giving credit card details, another quango, ATVOD, say age verification can be done via SMS text message, because a site operator can restrict their txt message so it wouldn't be received by a non-age-verified SIM card. This is what PornHub plan to do according to one of their staff. BBFC of course could disagree but I doubt it.

On the topic of VPNs, a number of countries ban them already, for example a law was passed in Russia that forces VPN providers to block sites. Tor is blocked in China, even hidden entry nodes get blocked pretty quickly, it's all automated and works very well. China sells this "technology" to other shitholes like Iran. Expect similar laws in UK in future, see my below previous post about UK's gloomy future regarding prostitution, Internet censorship and government control.

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But I feel there is a mistaken assumption things will stay as they are. The way things are going politics wise in UK from what I read, I wouldn't be surprised in the 5-10 years punting will be made illegal in UK and the politicians will go max into internet censorship, forcing internet providers to block not just punting sites like AW/UKP/Vivastreet/Backpage, but Bitcoin, Tor, VPNs, P2P, BitTorrent, etc. They will use the usual excuses of - terrorism, child safety, trafficking, tax evasion, and the new excuse of "Russia meddling in democracy with fake news".
So punters will have to resort to good ol' email to exchange punting info, but that's until UK government outlaws all email providers who don't allow them to read your emails. This is not far fetched given the UK government is demanding the likes of Whatsapp and Telegram to provide them a backdoor in their apps so they could disable end-to-end encryption on UK citizens and spy on their conversations.

Barry Shipton

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Hmmm, grim reading. And I noticed this in the news yesterday - and while I’m sure everyone on here would applaud efforts to crack down on dodgy pimps and trafficked girls - I suspect this will be just another heavy handed attempt to block or limit sites like AW and Vivastreet.

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I think any of us could spot a profile put up by Sergei and avoid it so it hardly needs AI to find them. But as with the above they may use this as an excuse for the ban hammer on any site which ‘could’ be used for trafficking whether it is or not.

I can’t think of any websites for gang masters and dodgy factory owners to employ forced labour so this can only mean sex work.
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Offline Barclay Spank

What I've been doing recently is using Google video search to find porn vids, copy the web address, then use an online video converter to download it. I should think that will continue after next month.

The state will have a record of what you look at if you use a credit card. They might use it to prosecute you. Anything that they think extreme.
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Offline Horizontal pleasures

I have a punting and private use credit card with very little usage so easy to get in.

But tech savvy teens might borrow their parent's card and if getting in is free then no transaction to show where they have been.

Offline switftjake

Just noticed today a new icon on the mobile AW home page menu after login that is 18+ verification.

However the text on the page is about dedication to protecting children and all you need to do is verify your age. I’ve already done that apparently as it says in green “Verified” for me. Can’t remember how I did that.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 04:37:14 pm by switftjake »

Offline Scarboroughdude

Just noticed today a new icon on the mobile AW home page menu after login that is 18+ verification.

However the text on the page is about dedication to protecting children and all you need to do is verify your age. I’ve already done that apparently as it says in green “Verified” for me. Can’t remember how I did that.

Just checked on AW and it says i'm verified also. I do remember registering my punting phone on AW so that would have been adult verified i presume.

Offline mrdiamond77

I am trying to get my head around this so sorry if I am seeming to be a bit slow.  With AW, will it be viewing the PG's and videos that you will need to verify your age, or will you have to verify if like me you only go on there to look at the girl's profiles and book them.  Not interested in the PG's and don't want to give my bank details to AW.

Offline chrysalis

So, in the Government's eyes, you have to be 18 to view porn online....
... and yet at the same time, certain parties (who voted for this legislation) are currently campaigning to lower the voting age to 16.

In other words, you can't be trusted to control your hand... but you can be trusted to vote for those that make all the laws.

 :dash:

Offline Tonyg

But how long before they ban VPNs or block the free websites for being non compliant with BBFC regulations.
I agree it is extreme.Not to mention the time it's taken to download about 4000 clips,loops and movies, but I remember the times when a poor quality VHS would cost £20 and don't want to go back to those days again.
Best to cover all the bases if you can.

we had a delivery man, once a fortnight, £20 for three, three hour vhs then dvds... all delivered to your door....
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Offline Tonyg

we had a delivery man, once a fortnight, £20 for three, three hour vhs then dvds... all delivered to your door....

I say three hours...that was the claim but it never really got anywhere past an hour or so  :(
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Offline Romney

Just noticed today a new icon on the mobile AW home page menu after login that is 18+ verification.

However the text on the page is about dedication to protecting children and all you need to do is verify your age. I’ve already done that apparently as it says in green “Verified” for me. Can’t remember how I did that.

That's not good.  I am not verified, and I have no desire to give them any personally identifiable information.  I wonder if i will still be able to access aw if I refuse to age verify?

Offline myothernameis

That's not good.  I am not verified, and I have no desire to give them any personally identifiable information.  I wonder if i will still be able to access aw if I refuse to age verify?

I think I had seen you could get verified through your phone, with a sms text or a paysafe voucher or supply id, ie passport

So would suggest paysafe or sms

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Offline switftjake

I think I had seen you could get verified through your phone, with a sms text or a paysafe voucher or supply id, ie passport

So would suggest paysafe or sms
I use a punting phone and Paysafe so it must have been one of these I used to verify age. Don’t have credit card and seriously doubt I’d have used my debit card if that’s even an option.

BoyLife

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It's all based on - "Please, think of the children" (that old chestnut, often used to introduce draconian legislation), don't you know.

We are witnessing this nation revert to Puritanism before our very eyes in a multitude of ways on the news, every day.


Online Sinz

It's all based on - "Please, think of the children" (that old chestnut, often used to introduce draconian legislation), don't you know.

We are witnessing this nation revert to Puritanism before our very eyes in a multitude of ways on the news, every day.

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Offline Students Notebook

I think I had seen you could get verified through your phone, with a sms text or a paysafe voucher or supply id, ie passport

So would suggest paysafe or sms

Every time I have tried to buy a Paysafe Card they say no they don't sell them. !!

Even the Paysafe advertisement says that you may have difficulty.

However. Go to the Information desk at the Store that supplies your mobile. Take proof of your age such as your driving licence ask for Challenge 25.

When they have stopped laughing and sniggering they will ring the mobile department and tell them that you are old enough to look at porn.

I'm off to Asda as soon as I can get there without my wife.

See you there chaps.

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Offline def456

On AW, under 'My details - Age verification':

Choose one of the methods below to verify your age...

   1.    Buy Credits using a credit card - Immediate verification
   
   2.    Send an SMS from a mobile phone with access to 18+ services - UK Citizens only
   
   3.    Buy a PaySafeCard at your local PayPoint - Completely anonymous
   
   4.    Supply ID and become a Verified Member - has many benefits for service providers



   

Ming

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This verification by SMS is a nonsense.

A friend of mine has given his 2 children mobile phones linked to his account as he gets a better deal this way, but as far as the phone company is concerned they are both registered to a man who is verified to be over 18, both phones have full internet access with no restrictions, if those kids were so inclined they could verify even though they are both well under 18.

Doesn't seem a very well thought out process to me..........

Ming  :hi:

Offline Students Notebook

This verification by SMS is a nonsense.

A friend of mine has given his 2 children mobile phones linked to his account as he gets a better deal this way, but as far as the phone company is concerned they are both registered to a man who is verified to be over 18, both phones have full internet access with no restrictions, if those kids were so inclined they could verify even though they are both well under 18.

Doesn't seem a very well thought out process to me..........

Ming  :hi:

Ask your friend if he'll give me one.

I'm talking about a mobile  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Offline David50

I believe you would need to be very stupid to give your credit card details or mobile number to sites like xhamstet . I suspect these are run by unsavoury characters that would not think twice about selling your details
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Diehard

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This legislation is pointless unless VPN is blocked but I don’t see how they will ever manage that.

Offline myothernameis

This verification by SMS is a nonsense.

A friend of mine has given his 2 children mobile phones linked to his account as he gets a better deal this way, but as far as the phone company is concerned they are both registered to a man who is verified to be over 18, both phones have full internet access with no restrictions, if those kids were so inclined they could verify even though they are both well under 18.

Doesn't seem a very well thought out process to me..........

Ming  :hi:

If something like this was to happen, would love to know if the person who owns the phone, could be held responsible, and would he face charges, especially if someone reports him

And it goes like this, my friends mate, gave his 16 year old boy his phone, and he has access to porn movies.  Would it be investigated, and would he be charged and fined, if not then the law is pointless

Offline Marmalade

This legislation is pointless unless VPN is blocked but I don’t see how they will ever manage that.


As I understand it, the ISP can see if you use a VPN unless you pay a much higher rate for an invisible one. So they could simply put it in the agreement and throttle, block or disconnect your connection if you use one. Not quite sure where that leaves DuckDuckGo. So they'd also have to make the same threat against people using a Tor, which works slightly differently but with a similar result. But Tor have anticipated that and have already publicised how to make bridges which effectively make the fact that you are using Tor invisible unless the ISP does some serious personalised deep tracking. Then they'd have to make it illegal for us to punt abroad as well, which again is quite had to monitor if you are using reputable, lawful punting facilities abroad and leave your phone in your hotel room. They'd need thousands and thousand of people on the ground following thousands of potential punters round Europe and the ability to force legal brothels to rat on their customers.

I don't quite see how the actual websites like AW and especially the non-profit, non-commercial UKP can be shut down, especially when they're hosted abroad. Their tried and tested method would be to persuade or force Google and any other major search engines to de-list them and block them knowingly coming through UK ISPs. All of which promotes something called the Dark Web which Isis apparently now use.

The sensible thing is to be prepared to go to pre-Internet days. Have a little black book with some mad squiggles in, throw the page away after you've had a shag following a tip-off from a trusted colleague.

Not every country has the money to waste on such things. Parts of Ecuador are quite nice places to live. Switzerland still has a decent non-political morality. Not everywhere will suddenly turn into a Stasi Germany nation.

Offline Marmalade

apologies -- I seem to have triggered the auto censor for mentioning a (paper) pocket notebook of a certain colour which unknown to myself is maybe also the same two words as some prossie punting site somewhere or other. I've forgotten most of such fluffy sites even exit.

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As I understand it, the ISP can see if you use a VPN unless you pay a much higher rate for an invisible one. So they could simply put it in the agreement and throttle, block or disconnect your connection if you use one. Not quite sure where that leaves DuckDuckGo. So they'd also have to make the same threat against people using a Tor, which works slightly differently but with a similar result. But Tor have anticipated that and have already publicised how to make bridges which effectively make the fact that you are using Tor invisible unless the ISP does some serious personalised deep tracking. Then they'd have to make it illegal for us to punt abroad as well, which again is quite had to monitor if you are using reputable, lawful punting facilities abroad and leave your phone in your hotel room. They'd need thousands and thousand of people on the ground following thousands of potential punters round Europe and the ability to force legal brothels to rat on their customers.

I don't quite see how the actual websites like AW and especially the non-profit, non-commercial UKP can be shut down, especially when they're hosted abroad. Their tried and tested method would be to persuade or force Google and any other major search engines to de-list them and block them knowingly coming through UK ISPs. All of which promotes something called the Dark Web which Isis apparently now use.

The sensible thing is to be prepared to go to pre-Internet days. Have a auto-censored with some mad squiggles in, throw the page away after you've had a shag following a tip-off from a trusted colleague.

Not every country has the money to waste on such things. Parts of Ecuador are quite nice places to live. Switzerland still has a decent non-political morality. Not everywhere will suddenly turn into a Stasi Germany nation.

I doubt ISPs will check everyone to see if they are using VPN. I don’t think VPN is yet that widely used. Once everyone is getting round the legislation I’m sure what you say will come true.

Facebook I think can spot VPN users who trying to set up multiple accounts but again I think they are to individually monitor it so sites like pornhub and AW I can’t see bothering.