IK Services (Leeds) values profit over privacy

[balanitis]

OK.

First off I am a lurker, I don't submit reviews and I don't really help this community at all. Why? Because I have too much to lose and as such prefer to keep this angle of my life private. I sincerely value everything everyone else contributes to this "hobby" and I hope you will not judge me prematurely.

So, on and off I've used IK services in Leeds over a few years. The other day I booked a lady who appealed to me. Appointment was confirmed and I arrived very early for my appointment and loitered near the apartment block entrance. A lady exactly matching the description of the lady I booked arrived; she was obviously not a resident of the block as she was looking at her phone to find the entrance code.

The problem for me was that I know this lady. Not personally. But I have and continue to deal with her in my day job. She is gorgeous and I have had lustful feelings for her but I had to make a call. So I opted not to see her. I contacted IK services immediately and cancelled my booking.

I realise it was last minute. I realise it was inconvenient to everyone concerned. I apologised profusely. And if asked I would have paid for the lady's travel cost anonymously. But ultimately this could have been a fucking disaster.

So I am now blocked from them. Utter silence. No response. And I am furious. I have used them over several years and have always been a decent client. But because of a situation that could have created a disaster from them and myself I am being treated like shit.

I could have continued with this booking but when you know the person's family and they know yours then what else can you do.

[yummycookie]

Plenty of agencies in the sea. Been interested in trying out playmates for a while myself. Do you mind me asking which girl it was?

[vw]

OK.

First off I am a lurker, I don't submit reviews and I don't really help this community at all. Why? Because I have too much to lose and as such prefer to keep this angle of my life private. I sincerely value everything everyone else contributes to this "hobby" and I hope you will not judge me prematurely.

So, on and off I've used IK services in Leeds over a few years. The other day I booked a lady who appealed to me. Appointment was confirmed and I arrived very early for my appointment and loitered near the apartment block entrance. A lady exactly matching the description of the lady I booked arrived; she was obviously not a resident of the block as she was looking at her phone to find the entrance code.

The problem for me was that I know this lady. Not personally. But I have and continue to deal with her in my day job. She is gorgeous and I have had lustful feelings for her but I had to make a call. So I opted not to see her. I contacted IK services immediately and cancelled my booking.

I realise it was last minute. I realise it was inconvenient to everyone concerned. I apologised profusely. And if asked I would have paid for the lady's travel cost anonymously. But ultimately this could have been a fucking disaster.

So I am now blocked from them. Utter silence. No response. And I am furious. I have used them over several years and have always been a decent client. But because of a situation that could have created a disaster from them and myself I am being treated like shit.

I could have continued with this booking but when you know the person's family and they know yours then what else can you do.

Well leech, you should have got  a burner phone and problem solved.

BTW do you understand what profit means, banning a client is hardly profitable.

As for not reviewing because of privacy, surely this bleating does the same, god some leeches are thick as pig shit.

[balanitis]

I'm not willing to give that info. This whole situation is absolutely not her fault & should not reflect on her at all.

[balanitis]

I do have a burner phone.

And misspelling "god" as "got" when you're insulting someones intelligence is a fantastic oxymoron. EDIT: you changed your spelling.

And yes they are taking profit over privacy when they ban a client who has used them reliably over years and yet bans them over an incident like this.

[vw]

I do have a burner phone.

And misspelling "god" as "got" when you're insulting someones intelligence is a fantastic oxymoron. EDIT: you changed your spelling.

And yes they are taking profit over privacy when they ban a client who has used them reliably over years and yet bans them over an incident like this.

Well if you were that good a customer they are losing profit.

If your attitude to reviewing matches your approach to booking I'm not shocked they ignore you.

[balanitis]

A fair point.

And your response is part of the reason I don't submit reviews or comment.

[vw]

A fair point.

And your response is part of the reason I don't submit reviews or comment.

Of course it is, standard leech reply, straight from the remedial leech playbook.   

[balanitis]

Thanks for proving my point.

Everyone on this site had to start somewhere. But do you really think insulting me will make others like me (or me) want to contribute further.

[vw]

Thanks for proving my point.

Everyone on this site had to start somewhere. But do you really think insulting me will make others like me (or me) want to contribute further.

you have been her 2.5 years and boast you don't review because you are too important. 

I don't submit reviews and I don't really help this community at all. Why? Because I have too much to lose

[balanitis]

I've not boasted at all. I've stated my reasons due to me worrying about being exposed as a punter. That doesn't make me important at all. It just shows me as being human.

If you're more confident at exposing yourself then I admire you.

But having written this and been subjected to a tirade of abuse and assumptions about my life by you I doubt I'll comment again. If admin would like to ban me for that then go for it.

[vw]

I've not boasted at all. I've stated my reasons due to me worrying about being exposed as a punter. That doesn't make me important at all. It just shows me as being human.

If you're more confident at exposing yourself then I admire you.

But having written this and been subjected to a tirade of abuse and assumptions about my life by you I doubt I'll comment again. If admin would like to ban me for that then go for it.

Tirade?   

[mrfishyfoo]

Did you tell the IK goalkeeper you were "acquainted" with the lady when you cancelled the booking ??

[Scarboroughdude]

I've not boasted at all. I've stated my reasons due to me worrying about being exposed as a punter. That doesn't make me important at all. It just shows me as being human.

If you're more confident at exposing yourself then I admire you.

But having written this and been subjected to a tirade of abuse and assumptions about my life by you I doubt I'll comment again. If admin would like to ban me for that then go for it.

Looking on the bright side you’ve now started posting on UKP, its not all bad 

[LICKER99]

OK.

First off I am a lurker, I don't submit reviews and I don't really help this community at all. Why? Because I have too much to lose and as such prefer to keep this angle of my life private. I sincerely value everything everyone else contributes to this "hobby" and I hope you will not judge me prematurely.

So, on and off I've used IK services in Leeds over a few years. The other day I booked a lady who appealed to me. Appointment was confirmed and I arrived very early for my appointment and loitered near the apartment block entrance. A lady exactly matching the description of the lady I booked arrived; she was obviously not a resident of the block as she was looking at her phone to find the entrance code.

The problem for me was that I know this lady. Not personally. But I have and continue to deal with her in my day job. She is gorgeous and I have had lustful feelings for her but I had to make a call. So I opted not to see her. I contacted IK services immediately and cancelled my booking.

I realise it was last minute. I realise it was inconvenient to everyone concerned. I apologised profusely. And if asked I would have paid for the lady's travel cost anonymously. But ultimately this could have been a fucking disaster.

So I am now blocked from them. Utter silence. No response. And I am furious. I have used them over several years and have always been a decent client. But because of a situation that could have created a disaster from them and myself I am being treated like shit.

I could have continued with this booking but when you know the person's family and they know yours then what else can you do.

  I don't get this post at all. Does it help other agency users?...  nope standard practice. Did the agency know there was a privacy issue before they blocked
you?.. not according to your post, so where is the privacy issue? I have no doubt they have a reason for blocking you.
 What was the OP hoping this post would achieve? Baffles me.

[vw]

What was the OP hoping this post would achieve? Baffles me.

To boast he doesn't post reviews as he is above it. 

[mrfishyfoo]

I've not boasted at all. I've stated my reasons due to me worrying about being exposed as a punter. That doesn't make me important at all. It just shows me as being human.

If you're more confident at exposing yourself then I admire you.

But having written this and been subjected to a tirade of abuse and assumptions about my life by you I doubt I'll comment again. If admin would like to ban me for that then go for it.

FFS MrB grow some. 

Taking your bat and ball home is going to leave us all thinking you're yet another fragile twat that needed his ego massaging.

If you think MrVW is being harsh and he's being a twat stand up for yourself. 

[vw]

FFS MrB grow some. 

Taking your bat and ball home is going to leave us all thinking you're yet another fragile twat that needed his ego massaging.

If you think MrVW is being harsh and he's being a twat stand up for yourself. 

Leeches don't have legs 

[mrfishyfoo]

Leeches don't have legs 

True. 

[balanitis]

OK.

Firstly, as soon as I realised I knew my booking was compromised I let IK know; I apologised immediately and explained my reasons clearly. I have had zero response to this.

Secondly, like it or not this has become a really aggressive forum to new posters. I completely admit that I have not been a productive member of this site. In fact I have been the complete opposite. But if this forum is to survive it needs to accept that everyone is new once and encourage them to post without penalising them when they start.

But today I felt it was reasonable to report that the fact I alerted a Leeds escort agency to the fact that I knew one of their escorts before a booking & that resulted in me being banned. What does that say to you about their regard for client privacy? Or even the privacy of the escorts? I fully realise this resulted in lost income for everyone. But the response has been awful.

I am trying to be productive and helpful. And warn other people that should they use IK services and find themselves in a compromising situation IK will ditch you. Which means you are being penalised for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

[Kendrig]

Just write it off, u may have used IK for a while, there are other agencies you can use in Leeds.

Accept what you say as being new, but over 2 years is not new. Write a review, then you will gain the respect of other members.

I don’t think VW was being harsh at all, I agree with what he stated, any long term member here, who contributes gets tired of people whom have been on the site a long time and don’t contribute. The site is for sharing.

Ps thanks for the contrbution, hope you contribute more in the future. All punters have SPs that won’t see them, SPs read this site , and can sometimes guess who the writer is. Many of us have had difficulty at times with indies and agencies. Who gives a flying f***, all the joys of and woes of banging lasses half my age.

[balanitis]

Kendrig; thanks for such a nice reply.

[Charlie Chalk]

Bullshit, OP.

You can easily review and keep your anonymity. Many of us have a hell of a lot to lose but realise how vital this forum is so do what we can to contribute. I’m only an occasional punter and stick to “tried and tested” girls AND I’d lose everything if I was discovered but I’ve still posted a few reviews to do my own little bit to help others as they have helped me. So what makes you so fucking different or special that you couldn’t do the same? Anyone who sticks to the rules, doesn’t WK, tout, leech or otherwise take the piss will have no problems here, just like me. Don’t complain if some of our more assertive members challenge you for leeching - do something about it, or be a snowflake and fuck off.

[vw]

But if this forum is to survive it needs to accept that everyone is new once and encourage them to post without penalising them when they start.

If it isn't broke don't fix it to suit the delicate leeches, read the stats and weep.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=176811.msg1869597#msg1869597

Surviving just well and good newbies arrive every day. 

[LICKER99]

 The OP doesn't make any sense.. he titled this 'profit over privacy', where as far as I can see the agency has done the opposite.

They have blocked you to guard yours and the WG's privacy once you told them you knew her, and lost profit as a result.

Of course they are going to block you OP, still don't get the purpose of the post, if you want a shoulder to cry on there are

plenty of local independents who will take your dollars.

[munterhunter]

Punters choose to punt because of the girls NOT the agency don't IK publish girls pictures and a description on the site. Even with face distorted if,as the OP, states "I know the girl and her family" I might have looked at the site and thought "Fuck me she's fit and she looks like the daughter of one of my clients" given his privacy concerns I might well have thought what if it is her?  Probably best to give her a miss but no like all of us from time to time common sense wanders off and our brain travels south!
So IK have blacklisted him so what? If he spent 50 grand a year with them they might be more understanding but as an occssional user over a number of years he's hardly going to get an invite to the Christmas Party.
Use another agency, change burner phones and try IK again.
As for privacy and discretion....
Send them an email or access their website and they capture ip and or mac address of your device.
Incall to your place they have your address a quick trip to the local library or an internet search costing under a tenner and they have your identity.
Book a hotel most want a credit card and or id.
If an agency want to know who you are they will find out one way or another.
If you really have that much to lose and it worries you so much you may want to rethink the idea of punting.
This is a forum for punters we exchange opinions but primarily the site is driven by REVIEWS which give us the info we need to make informed decisions when punting. Yes you can request advice but it's a TWO WAY STREET.
Being blocked by IK doesn't reflect on any of their girls or anyone who wants to use them. All this post tells us is:
If you book a girl she spends an hour getting ready arrives at the venue then gets a message "sorry love he's changed his mind" no matter what the reason she and very likely the agency are going to be pissed off. Should they have blocked the OP ... well that's up to them innit we only have one side of the story.
I've used IK before found them to be ok. I certainly wouldn't stop using them based on this post.

[HarryZZ]

It's not the school holidays until next week is it?

There's so much bullshit in the OP it's difficult where to start. Can't review because it might expose him. To whom? Unless you're wearing a mask it can't be with the SP, and how would reviewing a punt expose you to people who don't know of your hobby, even if they did know you were a punter how would they know which user you are? You're already exposed as the bloke who don't make the meeting, just get a new sim for your burner, you're a new client.

[FLYING BLUE]

OK.

First off I am a lurker, I don't submit reviews and I don't really help this community at all. Why? Because I have too much to lose and as such prefer to keep this angle of my life private. I sincerely value everything everyone else contributes to this "hobby" and I hope you will not judge me prematurely.

So, on and off I've used IK services in Leeds over a few years. The other day I booked a lady who appealed to me. Appointment was confirmed and I arrived very early for my appointment and loitered near the apartment block entrance. A lady exactly matching the description of the lady I booked arrived; she was obviously not a resident of the block as she was looking at her phone to find the entrance code.

The problem for me was that I know this lady. Not personally. But I have and continue to deal with her in my day job. She is gorgeous and I have had lustful feelings for her but I had to make a call. So I opted not to see her. I contacted IK services immediately and cancelled my booking.

I realise it was last minute. I realise it was inconvenient to everyone concerned. I apologised profusely. And if asked I would have paid for the lady's travel cost anonymously. But ultimately this could have been a fucking disaster.

So I am now blocked from them. Utter silence. No response. And I am furious. I have used them over several years and have always been a decent client. But because of a situation that could have created a disaster from them and myself I am being treated like shit.

I could have continued with this booking but when you know the person's family and they know yours then what else can you do.

Good that you begin by admitting that you're a lurker.

Having read through your post though, I'm completely baffled as to why you posted this story at all? - what feedback were you expecting from forum members & how would this help your current situation

Whilst I tend to agree that there are some keyboard warriors on the forum in general, it's all about sharing relevant information and, if you choose not to participate, you surely can't expect much help from active members when the shit hits your fan
Cheers
FB

[mrfishyfoo]

Bullshit, OP.

You can easily review and keep your anonymity. Many of us have a hell of a lot to lose but realise how vital this forum is so do what we can to contribute. I’m only an occasional punter and stick to “tried and tested” girls AND I’d lose everything if I was discovered but I’ve still posted a few reviews to do my own little bit to help others as they have helped me. So what makes you so fucking different or special that you couldn’t do the same? Anyone who sticks to the rules, doesn’t WK, tout, leech or otherwise take the piss will have no problems here, just like me. Don’t complain if some of our more assertive members challenge you for leeching - do something about it, or be a snowflake and fuck off.

FFS my cuppa tea. 

[NigelF]

Lots of great points have already been made.

I'm shocked that anyone believes this story though. There must be much more to it (unless he was just blocked accidentally). If he was a previously reliable customer then one late cancellation wouldn't be cause to block him. As others have said, if IK were after profit they'd want to take more of his money either through future bookings or at least a "cancellation fee" which some other agencies charge.

As has also been said, there's also nothing stopping him using another burner phone/SIM to make a booking through IK so I really don't see what the problem is.

[vw]

I really don't see what the problem is.

A highly strung prick, come here to say how dare you to the agency.

IMO using the forum to settle personal score without contributing, certainly more to it.

[NigelF]

A highly strung prick, come here to say how dare you to the agency.

IMO using the forum to settle personal score without contributing, certainly more to it.

Yes. He wants all the respect and "believability" of someone who contributes but doesn't want to bother with the actual effort (and comes up with bullshit excuses which at best make him look too stupid to be able to make an anonymous review - which no other reviewers seems to have a problem with).

[vw]

Yes. He wants all the respect and "believability" of someone who contributes but doesn't want to bother with the actual effort (and comes up with bullshit excuses which at best make him look too stupid to be able to make an anonymous review - which no other reviewers seems to have a problem with).

With outcalls i leave a while and then might change venue type and just mention county name.

[NigelF]

With outcalls i leave a while and then might change venue type and just mention county name.

Indeed, there's many things you can do. Although admittedly, I don't review many of my outcalls (although I don't have that many either).

[mrfishyfoo]

With outcalls i leave a while and then might change venue type and just mention county name.

A sensible strategy. 

This can also be used with incalls as this agency has more than one flat. Very easy to say meeting was at the other place.

Also not difficult to change the time from AM to PM etc etc etc.

[stew12345]

You didn’t try to book her again did you?

Oooops, sorry another lurker post!🤐

[vw]

Yes. He wants all the respect and "believability" of someone who contributes but doesn't want to bother with the actual effort (and comes up with bullshit excuses which at best make him look too stupid to be able to make an anonymous review - which no other reviewers seems to have a problem with).

banned for a completely separate trolling incident, good riddance IMO

[jbpunts74]

You didn’t try to book her again did you?

Oooops, sorry another lurker post!🤐

To quote a certain other person, welcome out of the shadows, stew12345 :-)

I find this all [spock] Fascinating, Jim [/spock]

Got to mind your Ps and Qs on UKP mate. People on here are easily offended. A couple of reviews buy you some respect. No 'I' in TEAM etc ... I haven't dabbled in a while but when I do, I'll go public. Enjoy UKP! :-)

[mrfishyfoo]

To quote a certain other person, welcome out of the shadows.....

PMSL !!!