Polish Providers - will the Golden Age ever return?

[pepsicolaboy]

Some late night musings...

Amount of girls available/Constant fresh arrivals:

Do you think we will ever have the return of lots of Polish service providers in their early 20s, keen to work and provide awesomes service at decent rates? 

I had by far my best ever run with mostly local Polish providers in suburbs or travelling to other suburbs (never needed to go into Central London). I didnt realise until we had this malaise of shit SP and the on mass influx of Romanians, how good I think we had it 

or Lets up the ante... :

Old Pricing & Services Available:

We will ever get this pricing/service structure again?:

Suburbs rate of £60 for 30 min or £80 1 hour (often got £50 for 30 min)...always OWO and passionate FK included

Or sometimes slightly more £ was needed (sometimes not!) but you got services like CIM included, or anal included in the 1 hour (sometimes even in the 30 min rate) or just £20 extra for anal (I swear some used to do it for just £10!), OR rimming (giving) & watersports (giving) included etc

Go back to 2010 or before... there where tonnes in London and so many where keen to provide good service, build loyal customer base.

Now there are few providers around and with some great ones amongst those but those ones seem to been on the scene for multiple years now...

 

[grandaddybadman]

Look, punting is dead in this country because there are too many simps that let the escorts take the piss. 

That's why i'm retired. It's going to take a stunning one with great skills and reliability to get me out of retirement. 

can't you see women in their 30's well passed their primes charging £200 per hour and guys will still pay.

Plus the hottest chicks don't escort they  just do webcam. All they need to do is mumble and roll around in bed and make £200 profit in a day.
They dont need to buy towels, wash bedding, buy condoms, look for apartments, pay rent then have to put up with simps that can't fuck kissing their arse and falling in love with them. There are easier ways to make the same money. And because these webcam wankers are happy to pay £5 per minute to entertain her. All she needs to do is pick the guys she likes and have sex with them.

[dubs]

With the fall of the pound, its not so profitable for EEs to come to the UK.  Its like getting a 20% pay cut but still having to fork out the same for rent, food, lube & condoms.

[Jonestown]

With the fall of the pound, its not so profitable for EEs to come to the UK.  Its like getting a 20% pay cut but still having to fork out the same for rent, food, lube & condoms.

The decline in service providers started well before the fall in the pound, well before the word brexit had been coined. London is too expensive now for a girl starting up on her own, plus girls have got far too greedy, you see it in TCM shops, you see it when indies who have no agency fees to pay want to charge £150/hr.

[Stortford]

No what you mean remember seeing sweet sexy Nicole 18 year old polish blonde in a council flat near Warren st 80 quid for an hour finished by Spunking over her pretty face no extra! Left feelinglike I'd robbed a bank😄

[Phaedrus]

It was a temporary phenomenon caused by the ascension to the EU of a poorer country that has since bridged somewhat the economic gulf that existed. Hence no more influx of Poles. We’ve had this sort of thing again with Romanians and Hungarians and that will slowly die a death too as the international market reaches equilibrium. Interestingly very few Bulgarians and Greeks which I think is due to a cultural phenomenon or perhaps they tend to fly to work in other closer countries. This sort of thing will only happen again if another poorer country with real poverty gets access to UK. Perhaps Turkey or Albania and we can only hope that they have more of a Polish attitude than a Romanian one, Or if Brexit works out and the UK becomes an economic powerhouse with a strong pound then there may be another “golden age”.

[mrx007]

No what you mean remember seeing sweet sexy Nicole 18 year old polish blonde in a council flat near Warren st 80 quid for an hour finished by Spunking over her pretty face no extra! Left feelinglike I'd robbed a bank😄

That sounds like my ideal escort experience.....

[Mark1]

Some late night musings...

Amount of girls available/Constant fresh arrivals:

Do you think we will ever have the return of lots of Polish service providers in their early 20s, keen to work and provide awesomes service at decent rates? 

I had by far my best ever run with mostly local Polish providers in suburbs or travelling to other suburbs (never needed to go into Central London). I didnt realise until we had this malaise of shit SP and the on mass influx of Romanians, how good I think we had it 

or Lets up the ante... :

Old Pricing & Services Available:

We will ever get this pricing/service structure again?:

Suburbs rate of £60 for 30 min or £80 1 hour (often got £50 for 30 min)...always OWO and passionate FK included

Or sometimes slightly more £ was needed (sometimes not!) but you got services like CIM included, or anal included in the 1 hour (sometimes even in the 30 min rate) or just £20 extra for anal (I swear some used to do it for just £10!), OR rimming (giving) & watersports (giving) included etc

Go back to 2010 or before... there where tonnes in London and so many where keen to provide good service, build loyal customer base.

Now there are few providers around and with some great ones amongst those but those ones seem to been on the scene for multiple years now...

 

Totally agree with you. Many of my very best punts over the years have mainly been with Poles. I always look where someone comes from. Most have sadly gone now and that is the main reason why I haven't reviewed any of them on here: the only one I think still working is in or near Bristol and was before I joined this site. I actually became and still am best friends with one but she stopped working maybe about five years agoes: it is rare but does go to show that you can become friends with a working girl, but that is a completely different subject.

[InstaPunt]

Some late night musings...

Amount of girls available/Constant fresh arrivals:

Do you think we will ever have the return of lots of Polish service providers in their early 20s, keen to work and provide awesomes service at decent rates? 

I had by far my best ever run with mostly local Polish providers in suburbs or travelling to other suburbs (never needed to go into Central London). I didnt realise until we had this malaise of shit SP and the on mass influx of Romanians, how good I think we had it 

or Lets up the ante... :

Old Pricing & Services Available:

We will ever get this pricing/service structure again?:

Suburbs rate of £60 for 30 min or £80 1 hour (often got £50 for 30 min)...always OWO and passionate FK included

Or sometimes slightly more £ was needed (sometimes not!) but you got services like CIM included, or anal included in the 1 hour (sometimes even in the 30 min rate) or just £20 extra for anal (I swear some used to do it for just £10!), OR rimming (giving) & watersports (giving) included etc

Go back to 2010 or before... there where tonnes in London and so many where keen to provide good service, build loyal customer base.

Now there are few providers around and with some great ones amongst those but those ones seem to been on the scene for multiple years now...

 

I think it’s less about price and brexit and more about the fact AW, for London anyways, is made up of mostly Romanians who don’t offer what they advertise charge £100 plus and still get customers. But that said still are quite a few Polish and Hungarians between £80 -£100 who offer a wide range of services and good experience.

[Malvolio]

I have a saved AW search for Polish WGs  aged between 18-35 who are available today and have a profile picture.

Running the search right now brings up 30 WGs, and I always get more than 50 if I run that on a weekday.  Still plenty of Polish out there.

[orangethoughts]

Agree, plenty of nice Polish girls still out there.... they have just upped their price since as mentioned the Romanians came.

[The Film Director]

Agree, plenty of nice Polish girls still out there.... they have just upped their price since as mentioned the Romanians came.

Get reviewing them pronto, then. 

[NotThePrimeMinister]

The last Polish girl I saw a few months ago, Zuza from the Paddington crew (review to be published soon, I promise!) said business is very slow and that, compared to some years ago, there are now way too many girls in London and too much competition.

[LLPunting]

The last Polish girl I saw a few months ago, Zuza from the Paddington crew (review to be published soon, I promise!) said business is very slow and that, compared to some years ago, there are now way too many girls in London and too much competition.

Too much competition between the trash perhaps.
Any decent SP who knows how to build up a following should still be as busy as she wants to be.  Any SP complaining is probably not willing to put the effort in or price herself reasonably.

[mrhappypants]

The last Polish girl I saw a few months ago, Zuza from the Paddington crew (review to be published soon, I promise!) said business is very slow and that, compared to some years ago, there are now way too many girls in London and too much competition.

TPM, VERY interesting and I agree but I think this is only half the story.  In my view the other half is that since Brexit there has been a drop in confidence in the economy in London which is playing out in demand.  I think a lot of girls who might previously have been able to get bookings at £120+ ph are now finding it very quiet, because they are being undercut by younger, fresher and more reasonably priced providers. 

I will illustrate this with a couple of examples - I omit links because I do not want this to be too easy for the casual enquirer of those profiles to find but you can find them in my back catalogue.  Burning.Phonix Tuffnel Park was a stated 19 year old with a attractive face and physique (8+ 8+ I would say) offering A'levels and CIM inclusive at £100 per hour.  Why on earth would anyone pay £150 ph?  At the other end Sabina/Inese at Towerbridge put up her rates to £150 ph at the start of the year and has not added a new review to her AW profile in nearly four months.  Reviews describing the £200 ph blow job make me laugh; really why would you bother?  I think we are seeing a painful reset in prices and a lot of longer serving SP's will simply give up and go home because they can neither charge nor earn what they were used to three years ago.

If I look at my hot list it seems to me plenty of those girls who put their prices up last year will be struggling.  I don't expect they will drop their prices.  I suspect we will see a big turnover in SP's.  Personally, I am looking at new profiles around the £80 ph mark.

[magnumchris]

With the fall of the pound, its not so profitable for EEs to come to the UK.  Its like getting a 20% pay cut but still having to fork out the same for rent, food, lube & condoms.

If i were a polish sp I would think working in Germany would be better than here.

[orangethoughts]

If i were a polish sp I would think working in Germany would be better than here.

Most Poles hate the Germans.

[Malvolio]

If i were a polish sp I would think working in Germany would be better than here.

Depends on how good her German is.

[NotThePrimeMinister]

So now we have to wait for another poor country to join the EU. Or for an existing  EU country to go down the toilet so that girls come here looking for work? Likely candidates? Greece and Italy?

@mrhappypants, I'm not sure I'm following. Do you mean that prices have come down? Agency prices have not, on my limited experience. Maybe some prices of some indies

[magnetico]

Personally, I am looking at new profiles around the £80 ph mark.

Post-Brexit, with the Roms/Poles competition gone, I expect the new profiles (Brits only) to have the prices shooting to the moon 

[NotThePrimeMinister]

Farage and Boris should have mentioned prossy prices going up! Are they not part of the official inflation basket?

[Froomey]

Farage and Boris should have mentioned prossy prices going up! Are they not part of the official inflation basket?

Our membership of the EU - and its expansion over the years - was a boon to this trade. It wasn't only Poles - th ere were significant number soft Latvians, Lithuanians and others who came. Beautiful girls, often willing and great service and good prices.

Post- Brexit, well not see their lie again. Can you imagine the zealots at the Home Office allowing 'working as a prostitute' to be a valid reason for entering the country in future?!

[mrhappypants]

So now we have to wait for another poor country to join the EU. Or for an existing  EU country to go down the toilet so that girls come here looking for work? Likely candidates? Greece and Italy?

@mrhappypants, I'm not sure I'm following. Do you mean that prices have come down? Agency prices have not, on my limited experience. Maybe some prices of some indies

I don't pay attention to Agency prices to be honest.  I know HoD are apparently offering a deal on duo's which is some indication of (lack of) demand.

Advertised prices are where they have been for at least the past six months.  There was a wave of price rises last year pushing the average OWO pole past £100 ph.  But anecdotally it seems to me lots girls appear to be experiencing business as slow.  I don't think girls typically do move their prices up or down very often.  Rather, those that get bullish, put their prices up then go quiet will stick it out for a while and then move on.   

My point is about demand, which I think has reduced.  So the girls are saying "more competition" but I am saying "less demand."  I see a lot more options at and below £100 ph which I suspect is making life tougher once you get over £120 ph.

[FlyingBreadMan]

For my 2 cents... Poles used to be hot, trim, and young. Nowadays the older, heavier ones are left over...

[LLPunting]

I don't pay attention to Agency prices to be honest.  I know HoD are apparently offering a deal on duo's which is some indication of (lack of) demand.

Advertised prices are where they have been for at least the past six months.  There was a wave of price rises last year pushing the average OWO pole past £100 ph.  But anecdotally it seems to me lots girls appear to be experiencing business as slow.  I don't think girls typically do move their prices up or down very often.  Rather, those that get bullish, put their prices up then go quiet will stick it out for a while and then move on.   

My point is about demand, which I think has reduced.  So the girls are saying "more competition" but I am saying "less demand."  I see a lot more options at and below £100 ph which I suspect is making life tougher once you get over £120 ph.

As the recession hits once the realities of Brexit start to crystalise I'm hoping prices will drop and we may see more ladies on the scene, perhaps even more UK citizens.

[claretandblue]

good point Pepsi,in short no I dont think those days will return unfortunately....

[mrhappypants]

As the recession hits once the realities of Brexit start to crystalise I'm hoping prices will drop and we may see more ladies on the scene, perhaps even more UK citizens.

That would surprise me, but I think we may be seeing more punters being careful about their spend.  The black economy is very sensitive to sentiment in my experience. 

[magnetico]

Brexit start to crystalise I'm hoping prices will drop and we may see more ladies on the scene, perhaps even more UK citizens.

Why would the Brits lower their prices if their Roms/Hungarian/etc competitors are more or less all gone?

But yes as punters will be poorer and will have to spend more to buy simple things like food, they won't have much punting money, hence WGs may have to decrease their prices.

[NotThePrimeMinister]

I wonder if there will be some kind of split in the market, like poor wankers being able to afford only £100ish rates, rich wankers being able to afford £300+, and nothing in between.
Any economist here to comment? No wait, they never get their shit right anyway...

[beanfarmer05]

I'm almost semi retired now, not through choice but due to a lot of what's been said on this and other threads. I'm not willing to pay 200-300+ regularly, but that's where a lot of indies, agencies and aw "stars" are headed towards

I'd rather go abroad for my punting now, and save up my hard earned rather than waste it on greedy girls over here.

[magnetico]

Rather than waste it on greedy girls over here.

There's no greed in business, only supply and demand.
If British can charge £300ph, they should.
And I'm sure that you would charge £300ph if you could!

[LLPunting]

I'm almost semi retired now, not through choice but due to a lot of what's been said on this and other threads. I'm not willing to pay 200-300+ regularly, but that's where a lot of indies, agencies and aw "stars" are headed towards

I'd rather go abroad for my punting now, and save up my hard earned rather than waste it on greedy girls over here.

Smart move.  I need to break the habit and do something more sensible like that.
Several good destinations where my monthly rent alone would cover 2 months there and some regular action with a few lovelies.   

Hmm, how expensive is it in Poland (or Lithuania or Estonia)?