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[SeekingtheTruth]

Again, North West is the section of the forum, it is already classified in the title display. remove repetition. how exactly does that bother you ? [/b]

What if the title was referring the north west Chorley though? Assumptions shouldn’t be made when it comes to making any kind of edit to titles IMO.

[HighlyMotivated]

When did I ever mention him ? I mentioned you have an accomplice- referring to HighlyMotivated.

You really have issues 

Several punters give you the same criticism and your reaction is to say they are ‘accomplices’

Stick to posting photos of WGs which punters actually find helpful

[Sinz]

Lads,

I actively avoid getting involved in forum spats, which are by and large silly. It's a real shame this one has derailed MHP's original review, which deserved a good discussion about this dubious WG for the benefit of us all.

But I wade in to this melee to support Sinz and show appreciation for his hard work ...

Sinz-buddy,

You do great work on UKP! From what I can see over the last year, you've made UKP reviews come alive with your diligent photo uploads. No punter can surely begrudge the added value of photos of WGs and screenshots of AW profiles to back-check details after re-profiling. You, as well as FCB, are brilliant at this business!

This argument has brought to light this title-editing ability, which I wasn't even aware existed. I now see under Notices that you and other worthy disciples painstakingly edit titles to better reflect review content. And looking back through edits you've made, bar the honest mistake with MHP's latest review, they all seem entirely appropriate and indeed useful (saving us all time in reading reviews, and then realizing the location is too far or it's about an agency we don't like or it was a "no show" or "B&S", etc, etc).

All in all, I for one, and I'm sure there are many others, really appreciate the work you and other members of Admin's team put into UKP behind the scenes. Don't let others detract you, and please keep up the good work!

Appreciate it Tantraman.

Me too, I Apologise to MrHappypants for his thread being taken over with unfounded accusations against me.

One thing I understand from the whole discussion and several others who have stated here is, the edits with info in the titles are infact helpful.

I always made it a point to ask the OP of the review the location of the punt if they have missed it out in the review and then add it to the title. I did everything within rules.

But being accused for random things, and matters are being twisted up for no reason.

James999 has issues with any new contribution, for instance adding pics to reviews. Not sure what his problem is.

[Sinz]

What if the title was referring the north west Chorley though? Assumptions shouldn’t be made when it comes to making any kind of edit to titles IMO.

I agree, I double check the review and AW page before making any amendment. If I don’t know, I always ask the OP.

[James999]

Not sure what his problem is.

Really, that's odd as I stated it clearly enough on this thread, it's your unnecessary editing of posts that don't need changing, you clearly do understand it as you've changed your behaviour since I stated it yesterday, and not a single post report from you today, that must be a record 

And you've not reported anyone on this thread, even myself, who you seem to feel is bullying you 

[Sinz]

On the scale you do it, then it's moderation by the back door, trying to change the review system, and grading reviews as you see fit, be it no show, b& S outcall etc, which is not required under the rules, simply something you have created as a way of editing perfectly acceptable titles.

You are actually having an issue for someone contributing to the forum. No valuable info is  removed, info is only added to make it easier for punters.

Unlike you who make pointless edits. Again no explanation on your power crazy trip of changing titles because you don’t like them written in CAPS ?? And stating the reason for change as : No need to Scream - displaying your controlling, overpowering power crazy actions.

[Sinz]

Really, that's odd as I stated it clearly enough on this thread, it's your unnecessary editing of posts that don't need changing, you clearly do understand it as you've changed your behaviour since I stated it yesterday, and not a single post report from you today, that must be a record 

And you've not reported anyone on this thread, even myself, who you seem to feel is bullying you 

Told you don’t get a chance to report anything, because I am busy replying to your false accusations. Although I did get a chance to make a few title edits. You can report to Admin if it does not pass your grading system.

[James999]

You are actually having an issue for someone contributing to the forum.

Twist it all you like, but my issue is with the unnecessary overzealous moderating of review titles just because you can, if a thread is titled Sasha London and you edit out the word London that's unnecessary and pointless moderating, as you are aware.

Why so few edits today?

Why no reports today?

Has Sheriff Siz turned over a new leaf?

[Sinz]

Twist it all you like, but my issue is with the unnecessary overzealous moderating of review titles just because you can, if a thread is titled Sasha London and you edit out the word London that's unnecessary and pointless moderating, as you are aware.

Why so few edits today?

Why no reports today?

Has Sheriff Siz turned over a new leaf?

How can I be doing anything if you keep asking me million questions every second ?

Told you I still edited a few titles today, you are just choosing to ignore them.

My issue is your bullying and hypocrite nature of you doing something, but others are not allowed to contribute. For instance :

Again no explanation on your power crazy trip of changing titles because you don’t like them written in CAPS ?? And stating the reason for change as : No need to Scream - displaying your controlling, overpowering power crazy actions.

[James999]

My issue is your bullying

Well report me then 

You usually spam the report system for far more minor matters 

[Sinz]

Well report me then 

Still begging me to report you I see 

Same goes for you, if you have an issue with me, then you go ahead and report me.

[James999]

Still begging me to report you I see 

It's what you usually do when someone doesn't agree with you, so why don't you report me, is it because you know I'm right and you don't want to bring attention to your power trip and over zealous moderation / editing of thousands of reports by you 

And if you'd been around a bit longer you'd know I don't bother admin with loads of reports as you do, I tend to call them out on the forum, so I'm staying true to forum, you however appear to be differing from your usual approach.

[Sinz]

It's what you usually do when someone doesn't agree with you, so why don't you report me, is it because you know I'm right and you don't want to bring attention to your power trip and over zealous moderation / editing of thousands of reports by you 

And this is what you do, when you don’t win an argument.

You twist facts, make up things, provoke people to report you.

But you are helping me more than anything, I know how to patiently deal with bullying now.

Just provide honest facts against baseless accusations. 

[James999]

And this is what you do, when you don’t win an argument. 

It's pretty evident I have won the argument, given loads of examples of your over zealous unnecessary moderation / edits, others have also pointed this out, and as a result you have today stopped doing it, well done 

[Mr Farkyhars]

I'm basically sympathetic to Sinz, because a lot of post titles, especially reviews, are either

a) repetitious (e.g. when they include 'London' or 'West Midlands', when those are section headings and hence already known to the reader) or
b) lack simple keywords that would make comprehension and categorization much easier, especially where the review itself is badly written (e.g. B&S, No show)

However, this needs to be done carefully and with discrimination. For one thing, where the location in London is the first half of a postcode, it's probably not worth adding the name of a district, because many London districts cross postcode boundaries. For example, certainly most of Canning Town is in E16, and if part of it is in E14, that fact will probably not aid the reader, because really only a local would know where the boundary lies. In any case, not many London districts have official boundaries.

[Sinz]

It's pretty evident I have won the argument, given loads of examples of your over zealous unnecessary moderation / edits, others have also pointed this out, and as a result you have today stopped doing it, well done 

Like I said many times I have done plenty of title edits today, given the limited number reviews that were added and the ones that needed further info. .

In the meantime you accused me of a variety of things ranging from being a returning member to being Ghengis Khan - no idea what all that was about. But still no reporting, like u usually do.

But, if that’s what you need to move along, that you believe you won the argument. Then good for you. Next time think twice before bullying someone. You and are not moderators, we are just users and helpers. So stay in that limit.

Leave moderation for Admin to deal with.

[InstaPunt]

Now that exactly is my intention, to make it easier for punters to read and digest info. It’s not harming anyone. But it’s an issue for James999 as he has pointed the above as too much editing 

The vast majority of people appreciate the stuff you do with locations and photos etc.

The cause of this spiralling out of control was probably down to nothing more than a late night mistake and subsequent misunderstanding. Forget all the comments that came after, just look at you and MHP first few messages. MHP second comment after his review wasn’t really that angry or rude. Just seemed a bit frustrated and wanted his review changed back, an appropriate reply and its over.

[James999]

I'm basically sympathetic to Sinz, because a lot of post titles, especially reviews,

I agree, a lot do need location added for clarity (I've just done one to help Sinz out) and that's great, and it was working well till Sinz went into overdrive and decided that every title needed editing in some way, and in doing so he's pissed people off, on this thread he wrongly regarded Happys review, and Happy had to report him, it had name and location so didn't need to be moderated by Sinz, Just look at the fucking thousands he's changed for no other reason than he can 

[Sinz]

I'm basically sympathetic to Sinz, because a lot of post titles, especially reviews, are either

a) repetitious (e.g. when they include 'London' or 'West Midlands', when those are section headings and hence already known to the reader) or
b) lack simple keywords that would make comprehension and categorization much easier, especially where the review itself is badly written (e.g. B&S, No show)

However, this needs to be done carefully and with discrimination. For one thing, where the location in London is the first half of a postcode, it's probably not worth adding the name of a district, because many London districts cross postcode boundaries. For example, certainly most of Canning Town is in E16, and if part of it is in E14, that fact will probably not aid the reader, because really only a local would know where the boundary lies. In any case, not many London districts have official boundaries.

Thanks Mr Farkyhars.

I agree with you, in such situations, I would only add it, if Canning Town or the specific district is mentioned in the actual review by the OP, thinking they probably forgot to add it to the title.

If am unsure I ask the OP, wait for their response and make the change.

So totally understand what you mean. It’s sensitive and should be handled carefully.

[James999]

Next time think twice before bullying someone.

Again, if you think it's bullying then hit report as you usually do 

[InstaPunt]

I agree, a lot do need location added for clarity (I've just done one to help Sinz out) and that's great, and it was working well till Sinz went into overdrive and decided that every title needed editing in some way, and in doing so he's pissed people off, on this thread he wrongly regarded Happys review, and Happy had to report him, it had name and location so didn't need to be moderated by Sinz, Just look at the fucking thousands he's changed for no other reason than he can 

He made a mistake, his reaction to MHP was wrong and out of character, but can’t you give the dude a break instead of bringing up random things that up until today were never an issue.

[Sinz]

The vast majority of people appreciate the stuff you do with locations and photos etc.

The cause of this spiralling out of control was probably down to nothing more than a late night mistake and subsequent misunderstanding. Forget all the comments that came after, just look at you and MHP first few messages. MHP second comment after his review wasn’t really that angry or rude. Just seemed a bit frustrated and wanted his review changed back, an appropriate reply and its over.

I absolutely agree, with the error I made on MHPs review and made the change as soon as he PM’d me. I apologised to that too, I get he was already upset with bad  experience and that coupled in his response to me probably, which is all in the past now.

But James999 is accusing me of things that has nothing to do with me and creating false accusations. I am not going to accept being bullied by him, just because things are not done his way.

[James999]

He made a mistake, his reaction to MHP was wrong and out of character, but can’t you give the dude a break instead of bringing up random things that up until today were never an issue.

Because until today it wasn't evident the amount of changes he had made, it had slipped under the radar, this thread caught him out, instead of admitting he had become over zealous he decided to argue black is white, he's changed his ways now so hopefully he's learnt his lesson.

I've probably pissed him off though as I did an edit on one of the new reviews, must admit took me a few goes as not done many and kept clicking the wrong button, perhaps I should leave it to the experts 

[Sinz]

Clearly shows James999 is desperate to just piss me off by adding a title to a review the OP forgot to add location. I msged the OP asking for the location and then OP replied.

Here you go it was for this review:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=181334.0

Guess what happened, a wonder James999 jumped in added the location and did something he said shouldn’t be done and is not require and moreover accused me of doing.

Well done boy, you are learning. Keep up the good work. Proud of you.

[James999]

But James999 is accusing me of things that has nothing to do with me and creating false accusations.

All the examples I gave were edits from you, if you believe I am making false accusations then report me, you usually report anyone for the slightest reason 

[James999]

added the location and did something he said shouldn’t be done

Why lie? I've never said locations shouldn't be added, I've said it's all the other crap gradings and changes you make just so you can edit the title, the rules state a name and a location, that's it. Why try and change the system, it's not broken and worked before you arrived 

[Sinz]

Because until today it wasn't evident the amount of changes he had made, it had slipped under the radar, this thread caught him out, instead of admitting he had become over zealous he decided to argue black is white, he's changed his ways now so hopefully he's learnt his lesson.

I've probably pissed him off though as I did an edit on one of the new reviews, must admit took me a few goes as not done many and kept clicking the wrong button, perhaps I should leave it to the experts 

You raised it as an issue in the past, just dint have any impact, because you never had a point, just like this time around.

[James999]

So pissing off happy and others isn't a point, and unnecessary changes of reviews isn't a point, it clearly is and you know it, hense your change in approach to it since raised. 

[Sinz]

Why lie? I've never said locations shouldn't be added, I've said it's all the other crap gradings and changes you make just so you can edit the title, the rules state a name and a location, that's it. Why try and change the system, it's not broken and worked before you arrived 

System is not broken, it’s just you attitude to newbies. We want to contribute, just stop bullying if you an issue with my edits report it. You clearly know, you are in the wrong.

[James999]

System is not broken,

Then stop fucking changing it 

[InstaPunt]

Because until today it wasn't evident the amount of changes he had made, it had slipped under the radar, this thread caught him out, instead of admitting he had become over zealous he decided to argue black is white, he's changed his ways now so hopefully he's learnt his lesson.

I've probably pissed him off though as I did an edit on one of the new reviews, must admit took me a few goes as not done many and kept clicking the wrong button, perhaps I should leave it to the experts 

Or maybe none of the reviewers felt the need to complain. Things like adding  Canning Town to E14 is a positive and very helpful to people in London

[James999]

Or maybe none of the reviewers felt the need to complain.

Well complaints have been made on this thread, and Sinz realised his error and has corrected his ways 

[Sinz]

Then stop fucking changing it 

Sounds like you crying again. No one is changing anything, I am able to contribute so I do. You don’t like it, don’t know why. Probably because I don’t back off from your bullyin.

Either ways you don’t have a point, other than false accusations.

Again no explanation on your power crazy trip of changing titles because you don’t like them written in CAPS ?? And stating the reason for change as : No need to Scream - displaying your controlling, overpowering power crazy actions.

[James999]

No one is changing anything,

You are, thousands of review titles have been changed by you, it was one of your unnecessary changes that caused this thread to expose your actions.

[Sinz]

Well complaints have been made on this thread, and Sinz realised his error and has corrected his ways 

I apologised and reverted changes in the first page more like in 2 mins of making the mistake. All the rest was your desperate move of making false accusations, like calling me a returning memeber than Ghengis Khan - who u still haven’t bothered to explain about, anything more ?

[Sinz]

You are, thousands of review titles have been changed by you, it was one of your unnecessary changes that caused this thread to expose your actions.

This thread has spiralled because of your false unfounded accusations. All the while, when you were being a hypocrite and doing things like below for which you have no reasoning.

Again no explanation on your power crazy trip of changing titles because you don’t like them written in CAPS ?? And stating the reason for change as : No need to Scream - displaying your controlling, overpowering power crazy actions.

[Sinz]

Or maybe none of the reviewers felt the need to complain. Things like adding  Canning Town to E14 is a positive and very helpful to people in London

I take time do my reaserach before making a change, but James999 thinks no one should do it other than when he decides to do it.

[James999]

I apologised

Not exactly, you told him his punt didn't happen at first in order to try and justify your fuck up 

Secondly, calm down what’s with all the Caps and fury ?

Thirdly, the punt never happened so it is a no show - what’s ur point ?

[Sinz]

Not exactly, you told him his punt didn't happen at first in order to try and justify your fuck up 

You are sad a being - who keeps bouncing off everything you can possibly get your hands on and then manipulate it to make it look like the way you want it.

Issue with OP was resolved like yesterday, but you don’t want to I admit it.

You tried to stir the plot and just dint get anywhere.

[James999]

This thread has spiralled because

This thread has spiralled as you usually shout someone down and when they reply you report them, but oddly you seem reluctant to report me 

[Sinz]

This thread has spiralled as you usually shout someone down and when they reply you report them, but oddly you seem reluctant to report me 

Still begging me to report you.

Get over it mate and grow a pair.

Oh I had a couple of days off  from work but tomorrow, I got to go back to work,  so don’t mind if I take time to respond to your false accusations.

[Liverpool]

I can see the points of both Sins and James999.

Adding locations and agency names is a huge help.

Punters can read reviews and use their own intelligence to see in/outcalls,b&s etc. This seems a bit pointless.

[James999]

Still begging me to report you.

You usually do when someone disagrees with you, despite the reminders, not a single report from you today, you realise you've fucked up, been caught out, just grow up and move on 

[Sinz]

I can see the points of both Sins and James999.

Adding locations and agency names is a huge help.

Punters can read reviews and use their own intelligence to see in/outcalls,b&s etc. This seems a bit pointless.

Thanks for the feedback mate, rarely add B&S to a tile unless specified by the OP. Point taken though.

[Sinz]

You usually do when someone disagrees with you, despite the reminders, not a single report from you today, you realise you've fucked up, been caught out, just grow up and move on 

I have literally been replying to your sad false accusations all day, how could I read a full review and make a judgement? 

Still managed to add few pics and make title edits.

[James999]

I can see the points of both Sins and James999.
Adding locations and agency names is a huge help.
Punters can read reviews and use their own intelligence to see in/outcalls,b&s etc. This seems a bit pointless.

I agree with locations, and it's in the rules, never had an issue with that.
The Agency, I'm mixed on that, largely because there are a lot of Agency touts around and is it really required to have an agency name in the title,
As for the grading B & S, Outcall etc, pointless, as the review will say that.

My issue is the desire to edit a review title just because you can, and then making up a reason to do so, for example there was one like Sarah - London and sinz went in and removed the word London from the title, what the fuck for, there needs to be some individuality in the system and don't alter reviees unless it's really required, not edit them just because you can.

[James999]

I have literally been replying to your sad false accusations

But I have not made one false accusation, as if I had you would have reported it 

[InstaPunt]

Well complaints have been made on this thread, and Sinz realised his error and has corrected his ways 

Yeah by MHP about one issue. So what’s the need to bring up his previous edits that received no complaints and if anything he usually gets thanked for and now try to twist it into a something negative to try and prove your point. Does seem like the mistake and bad coms with MHP is now being piggybacked by others who already had an issue with Sinz.

[Sinz]

I agree with locations, and it's in the rules, never had an issue with that.
The Agency, I'm mixed on that, largely because there are a lot of Agency touts around and is it really required to have an agency name in the title,
As for the grading B & S, Outcall etc, pointless, as the review will say that.

My issue is the desire to edit a review title just because you can, and then making up a reason to do so, for example there was one like Sarah - London and sinz went in and removed the word London from the title, what the fuck for, there needs to be some individuality in the system and don't alter reviees unless it's really required, not edit them just because you can.

So now not only you are agreeing to adding location and agency is fine but doing it urself. Well done, that's a win for me.

Because most of the references of changes you accused me was for adding locations and agency name, until punters came on board and supported the fact that, it is helpful. Now you are changing your tune.

Again no explanation on your power crazy trip of changing titles because you don’t like them written in CAPS ?? And stating the reason for change as : No need to Scream - displaying your controlling, overpowering power crazy actions.

[Sinz]

But I have not made one false accusation, as if I had you would have reported it 

Ironically, glad to see you support my judgement. 

Your accusations are still false though, as you are back tracking most of them now.