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Author Topic: The best way for a pro$$ie to say she does not see Black guys that I have seen  (Read 14454 times)

Q. Do you see black guys?   A. Sorry no, due to some bad experiences in the past I no longer see NEW black guys but my existing regular black guys are still very welcome of course.

....Can't see a black punter feeling slighted by that (even if she doesn't really have existing regular black clients). It shows some respect and compassion for her fellow man and that she doesn't have to make others feel small for her to feel big. From a business point of view I cannot understand why some pro$$ies sound so vitriolic when they state their dislikes or wish not provide a particular service. It reflects negatively on their character as a whole, can't they see that? Best to "calm down dear ...."its only commercial sex.

Offline smiths

Q. Do you see black guys?   A. Sorry no, due to some bad experiences in the past I no longer see NEW black guys but my existing regular black guys are still very welcome of course.

....Can't see a black punter feeling slighted by that (even if she doesn't really have existing regular black clients). It shows some respect and compassion for her fellow man and that she doesn't have to make others feel small for her to feel big. From a business point of view I cannot understand why some pro$$ies sound so vitriolic when they state their dislikes or wish not provide a particular service. It reflects negatively on their character as a whole, can't they see that? Best to "calm down dear ...."its only commercial sex.

IMO she is still viewing all new black punters as the same which of course they arent. It is though up to a WG who she wishes to punt with.

I recall seeing a WG saying obese not welcome so that saved me a possible turn away at her door because when i book i dont say i am fat as i dont see it as relevant, its not dating, a WG doesnt have to fancy me. So i would rather see that than not.

As to the wording some WGs use, some are thick or simply clueless as are many pimps so its no surprise to me.


Offline Tailpipe

Those issues of size and colour are never easy.

And wording is never easy , it is also interesting to see that some black WGs say that they will not see black guys.

I have never been asked to leave a punt I have walked away but in my view if a WG for what ever reason does not feel she
wants to punt with you then thats fine as its going to be crap punt. 

It is a difficult one. After all I can't imagine how a pro$$ie can fuck any guy that just walks in on any given day. I know I couldn't fuck just any pro$$ie and my difficulty in scoping any potential punts in the recent past tells me it not just about any bint with a hole, for me at any rate. There are certain features though that do trigger me to "go there". Come to think of it that is probably the same for the pro$$ie... the trigger is there....money!

I guess the punter has more luxury of choice than the pro$$ie when it comes to choice, but when money is what makes the punt happen a pro$$ie will maximise and the punter will tend to minimise the rate of exchange. For the punter this will end in munterland (but with mindbending and going for it whilst "thinking of England" he can invariably cum). For the pro$$ie money will trigger, legs will open, but here is the rub, she will not cum or get any true release from the encounter. Begs the question then, what does it matter if the punter is black or overweight.. the money is the same and the level of enjoyment the pro$$ie will allow herself is the same. I cannot imagine that the majority of people who threaten pro$$ies or terrorise them are overweight. They can't be overwhelmingly black as they make up such a small percentage of the punting public I believe.

I have had pro$$ies tell me that they like asians, chinese etc. repeating the old tales of them being smaller and coming quicker, whereas black men take longer to cum and tend to be more stamina driven. How much that is generally true, I haven't a clue. I guess some black WG do not see blacks for fear of there being a connection made, as there is a greater likelihood that some black punter might walk in who knows someone who might know someone who knows her. Or a relative, friend or direct acquaintance might walk through the door. There is also the situation where black or white the WG in her private life has a black partner and feels uncomfortable punting with a black man..thinking along the lines of the same reason some give for not kissing or indulging in DFK.

Sometimes people need boundaries and if there really are none because money unlocks it all, then they will draw some boundaries just to keep something of themselves guarded. It could be a psychological comfort blanket in a way and if it keeps them sane, then so be it. It reminds them that there are some things they can have control over and express a choice about. If the punting population suddenly becomes overpopulated with black and overweight men, then they will choose something else about the punting populous to deem a percentage as being unacceptable for their service. One thing is for certain, whatever the discriminator is it will never be one that will hinder her ability to remain available to the mass of the market. Maybe in the hypothetical scenario all pro$$ie would suddenly not be bi-sexual and the exchange would be:

Q. Do you see women?   A. Sorry no, due to some bad experiences in the past I no longer see NEW women but my existing regular women are still very welcome of course.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2013, 05:04:38 PM by Rickrabbit »

Offline smiths

Those issues of size and colour are never easy.

And wording is never easy , it is also interesting to see that some black WGs say that they will not see black guys.

I have never been asked to leave a punt I have walked away but in my view if a WG for what ever reason does not feel she
wants to punt with you then thats fine as its going to be crap punt.

Indeed, i would walk anyway nowadays if i get any negative vibe off a WG but i dont like my time being wasted by liars. :hi:

Offline smiths

It is a difficult one. After all I can't imagine how a pro$$ie can fuck any guy that just walks in on any given day. I know I couldn't fuck just any pro$$ie and my difficulty in scoping any potential punts in the recent past tells me it not just about any bint with a hole, for me at any rate. There are certain features though that do trigger me to "go there". Come to think of it that is probably the same for the pro$$ie... the trigger is there....money!

I guess the punter has more luxury of choice than the pro$$ie when it comes to choice, but when money is what makes the punt happen a pro$$ie will maximise and the punter will tend to minimise the rate of exchange. For the punter this will end in munterland (but with mindbending and going for it whilst "thinking of England" he can invariably cum). For the pro$$ie money will trigger, legs will open, but here is the rub, she will not cum or get any true release from the encounter. Begs the question then, what does it matter if the punter is black or overweight.. the money is the same and the level of enjoyment the pro$$ie will allow herself is the same. I cannot imagine that the majority of people who threaten pro$$ies or terrorise them are overweight. They can't be overwhelmingly black as they make up such a small percentage of the punting public I believe.

I have had pro$$ies tell me that they like asians, chinese etc. repeating the old tales of them being smaller and coming quicker, whereas black men take longer to cum and tend to be more stamina driven. How much that is generally true, I haven't a clue. I guess some black WG do not see blacks for fear of there being a connection made, as there is a greater likelihood that some black punter might walk in who knows someone who might know someone who knows her. Or a relative, friend or direct acquaintance might walk through the door. There is also the situation where black or white the WG in her private life has a black partner and feels uncomfortable punting with a black man..thinking along the lines of the same reason some give for not kissing or indulging in DFK.

Sometimes people need boundaries and if there really are none because money unlocks it all, then they will draw some boundaries just to keep something of themselves guarded. It could be a psychological comfort blanket in a way and if it keeps them sane, then so be it. It reminds them that there are some things they can have control over and express a choice about. If the punting population suddenly becomes overpopulated with black and overweight men, then they will choose something else about the punting populous to deem a percentage as being unacceptable for their service. One thing is for certain, whatever the discriminator is it will never be one that will hinder her ability to remain available to the mass of the market. Maybe in the hypothetical scenario all pro$$ie would suddenly not be bi-sexual and the exchange would be:

Q. Do you see women?   A. Sorry no, due to some bad experiences in the past I no longer see NEW women but my existing regular women are still very welcome of course.

 I have yet to see no Whites welcome on a WGs profile yet White punters are of course the majority of punters here punting. WGs know they can exclude say Black and Asian punters and it wont affect the amount of punters they wish to see, but they know if they excluded all White punters it likely would affect the amount. So although they might well have had a problem from a White punter they dont exclude ALL White punters. They make a pragmatic money orientated decision not to exclude them all, but do exclude ALL new Black punters as in this case as she can presumably afford to do so.

Offline Tailpipe

Rick your post makes a lot of sence and is detailed


"After all I can't imagine how a pro$$ie can fuck any guy that just walks in on any given day. I know I couldn't fuck just any pro$$ie "


For me that sums it up , it gives flex both sides of the coin.

However the expresstion of taste on the profile and the way its presented is a little harder to deal with as would be easy to take afence.

Offline skittish

Rick your post makes a lot of sence and is detailed


"After all I can't imagine how a pro$$ie can fuck any guy that just walks in on any given day. I know I couldn't fuck just any pro$$ie "


For me that sums it up , it gives flex both sides of the coin.

However the expresstion of taste on the profile and the way its presented is a little harder to deal with as would be easy to take afence.

Some people are too easily offended TP, it surprises me somewhat considering the nature of the business you'd think people would be very open minded.

I remember Sofia getting stick for saying she couldn't shag ugly punters, sure it's bound to narrow the field of potential. I'd have more respect for a prossie that says sorry no can do for whatever reason than one that takes your money and delivers a shit service because you repulse her.

Who wants to pay to fuck someone when they categorically state they don't want to? It puzzles me why punters want to change their minds, just move on a seek someone more suitable.

Offline Tailpipe

Some people are too easily offended TP, it surprises me somewhat considering the nature of the business you'd think people would be very open minded.

I remember Sofia getting stick for saying she couldn't shag ugly punters, sure it's bound to narrow the field of potential. I'd have more respect for a prossie that says sorry no can do for whatever reason than one that takes your money and delivers a shit service because you repulse her.

Who wants to pay to fuck someone when they categorically state they don't want to? It puzzles me why punters want to change their minds, just move on a seek someone more suitable.

I am with you  Skittish and I agree , I often say on a long punt with someone I have not met before if you do not feel this is going to work lets stop now or at
any point , the thought of imposing myself on someone with them not been fully engaged even if fake , is not something I can handel.





 I think also a lot of it psychological defence as I said, being selective reminds them that there are some things they can have control over and express a choice about whilst carrying out their profession. Its like how some pro$$ies like to call themselves Courtesans to differentiate themselves from the pack. The reality is that to a punter there is the Courtesan whore and there is the streetwalking whore, with all the variations in between...the only descriptor that doesn't change is "whore" and they all fundamentally sell the same facility. (Being harsh here to make the point). You frequently hear on this forum that punters should keep it real, sometimes pro$$ies also need to be reminded to keep it real, even while being fake!
« Last Edit: October 07, 2013, 06:14:50 PM by Rickrabbit »

the thought of imposing myself on someone with them not been fully engaged even if fake , is not something I can handel.

..oddly enough Tailpipe that sort of reflects the difficulty I have with Mrs Rickdoe... same feeling remains  even if its free!  :unknown:

Offline rpg

..oddly enough Tailpipe that sort of reflects the difficulty I have with Mrs Rickdoe... same feeling remains  even if its free!  :unknown:

Classic!!! Exactly why I no longer even bother trying anymore.

Offline dilettante

2 of the 4 WGs I have ever seen said they had problems with Asian men - the one I saw in the spring said that they treated her like dirt when she was making an effort to be nice so she often felt like killing them while on the job, maybe it's a cultural thing, no doubt whores are the lowest dregs of society according to Koranic principles but they still need to use them, dont they ... ?

Offline Dani

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2 of the 4 WGs I have ever seen said they had problems with Asian men - the one I saw in the spring said that they treated her like dirt when she was making an effort to be nice so she often felt like killing them while on the job, maybe it's a cultural thing, no doubt whores are the lowest dregs of society according to Koranic principles but they still need to use them, dont they ... ?

I have found the older Asian men to be very polite and respectful  It is the younger ones born in the UK that tend to be pushy and rude but I have found telling them off (like young children) soon puts a stop to it and they also then become very polite and respectful.  It sounds silly telling them off but an Asian female friend told me to do it as they tend to have respect for a motherly type woman and it is true
I have had less trouble from Asian men than I have from English men.  It might also be my age as well as they don't tend to talk to me like they would someone their own age.
Same with black men.  all the black clients I have are bloody lovely and polite.  However I do get quite a few who try to book that talk like wanna be gangstas but I just refuse to see them.  If I chose to stop seeing a race because of one or two people I would have no customers at all as I would have to say no whites, blacks, Asians or oriental. 

I know it is down to personal preference but I don't get banning everyone of a certain colour for just one person with the same skin colours behaviour.  Why not just refuse to see that one person again and judge every client on his own merits.

I can put hand on heart and say white clients between the ages of 18 - 23 make up the worst clients for attitude and rudeness but again there are some lovely guys in this age group too.

Offline dilettante

Good point and lovely post, Dani - I'll make further enquiries as to particulars! ;-)

Offline NightKid

I remember Sofia getting stick for saying she couldn't shag ugly punters ...

Wasn't it more because of her wanting to webcam with prospective punters first? But yeah, ugly factored into it too.

Offline Ali Katt

I have yet to see no Whites welcome on a WGs profile yet White punters are of course the majority of punters here punting. WGs know they can exclude say Black and Asian punters and it wont affect the amount of punters they wish to see, but they know if they excluded all White punters it likely would affect the amount. So although they might well have had a problem from a White punter they dont exclude ALL White punters. They make a pragmatic money orientated decision not to exclude them all, but do exclude ALL new Black punters as in this case as she can presumably afford to do so.
I did a see a profile that said black men only, she was a fat old bitch, must have been about 60, the profile has since gone.

I think as well the profile mentioned by the OP,  the punter is to assume she actually she actually has black men as clients - whose to say she does? It's a bit like saying "I'm not racist, but..."

Offline Melb

We should retaliate, by refusing to shag ugly prossies.
That would put 90% of them out of business.

Offline akauya

Perhaps there's also an element of personal taste rather than prejudice. In a slightly off topic but still related to race... in the swinging world there are women who will only play with black guys. There are also themed club nights like the 'black man's fan club' where only black men are allowed.

Offline NaturalMystique

There are also themed club nights like the 'black man's fan club' where only black men are allowed.

This is not strictly true. I have been to their event and there was white guys there. Predominantly black men though.

Offline James999

It is a difficult one.

No it's not, a girl can fuck or not fuck whoever she likes, she does not need to make up reasons / excuses for her choices  :hi:

After all black guys don't have to give reasons for their choice if they don't attend church / mosque etc

Offline James999

I remember Sofia getting stick for saying she couldn't shag ugly punters

The way she's going she'll be marketing herself as a "BBW" soon and will then have no choice  :music:

No it's not, a girl can fuck or not fuck whoever she likes, she does not need to make up reasons / excuses for her choices  :hi:

After all black guys don't have to give reasons for their choice if they don't attend church / mosque etc

I agree with that James999, but it's when they try to make up reasons like "...due to bad past experience", then fuzzy logic kicks in, because as the Osmonds so poignantly put it ..."One Bad Apple don't spoil the whole darn bunch" . It is not wrong to have a preference, I do.

It's also a difficult point to get a consensus on. I think pro$$ies should say if they don't see a particular type of person, without explaining why in the way they do. I suspect there will be times when they use the "bad experience" excuse because it is seen as the thing to say, which then perpetuates a stereotypic view. I thought the way I sited managed to balance it at least from a perception viewpoint. I have heard the way some Hungarian pro$$ies I rate talk about Romanian pro$$ies and Hungarian pro$$ies they say are from gypsy stock and although they can't all be that bad, I am sure it has informed my view about those providers. Especially as I tried one once and didn't have a good experience. I would still consider seeing a Romanian pro$$ie but it has made it difficult for me to judge who will provide a good service with those opinions and experiences prevailing. So I am stuck like a rabbit in the headlights, unable to choose a punt.

The pro$$ie has sort of the same dilemma with a major difference, people are coming to her, so if she is afraid of a "bad experience" she can judge the person when she opens the door. She can also ask them to leave if they prove to be unsavoury, or log their contact details as one not to see again. The same rules as apply to any retail outfit, they have the right to refuse entry on certain grounds of decency and behaviour and to reject someone on the same grounds. It is not legal for an establishment to refuse someone entry because of their skin colour. You can get around it by running a membership scheme and rigging it to reflect that discriminator I guess.

Best for a pro$$ie to continue to just say "No Dogs, No Blacks, No Irish" ...without explanation, until they mature, catch up with humanity and the times and become confident of their own individual worth to step up and become citizens of the world. Then they will be able to interact with their fellowman on a one-to-one basis.  :hi:
« Last Edit: October 08, 2013, 10:51:20 AM by Rickrabbit »

Offline Jimmyredcab

A girl has a perfect right not to see black guys ------------ or Chinese guys, or Indian guys, it is her body.    :music:


Far better to be upfront rather than see black guys and give them a second rate service.    :hi:


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