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162 review(s) for Phoenix Parties (145 positive, 12 neutral, 4 negative) [Indexed by Steely Dan]

Offline Steely Dan

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Booking easy.  Phoned in the morning.  Got text back confirming with new address. 2 hours £160. Plus 10 minutes change/shower time not in the 2 hours.

Venue.  Their new (ish) location is very fit for purpose. Two big play rooms, & a lounge. Place to change.  Could use one more bathroom.

Girls.  Good line up.  6 hot babes of various types.  And Barbara, who is not that hot, but likeable and a good fuck.

So I decided to return to TPC. Greeted by Em's new partner.  Saw Em in the background.  This was an old fashioned LMP day: 14 guys and 7 girls. While I used to think low ratio was the best, 2:1 is still fine and a full party can add to the vibe. This was true for this party.  A good time and I was never really cueing up.  With Em in charge, there was no selfish behaviour allowed - the girls were all happy to give a BJ while being fucked or whatever else was needed to accommodate a 2nd guy.  With guys on breaks, I had plenty of 1:1 anyway.

After a shower under Barbara's watchful eye, I got a drink and headed to the lounge.  Girls all introduced themselves.  I forgot all their names except for Paloma (the hottest by my standards) and Cindy (cuz named after a doll).  I started with (I think) Luiza (guessing from crap pic on website).  Was in 2nd place which meant I was giving her RO as she gave some guy a BJ.  He got off and went away.  Then she gave me a BJ and then climbed on top and fucked me.  I went next door and did the same to Ree, meaning fun second place than had a turn. She was very tall, very hot blonde with well done fake tits.  Nice girl.  Did her in mish.  Cindy was on the bed next to us - grabbed her a bit as I fucked Ree.  When I was done there were two guys playing with Cindy so I took a break. Never made it back...shame.

Had a great 1:1 session with Paloma.  Totally amazing body and great medium sized natural tits.  Very nice. Then I fucked Barbara.  Ok a bit of a big girl, but her pussy is still tight.  Break 2.  Had a nice catch up with Em. 

I finished with MFF with Sarah and Rebecca.  Somehow with all the guys there was still a bonus two-some at the end.  Another guy did appear so I was just with Rebecca the last 15 minutes.  I had though Paloma was my best but Rebecca in fact was equally hot, and the service she coaxed out of little Dan was amazing.  So she gets my 5 stars for the day.

Overall a good party.  Not my thing as much as it was a few years back.  With the right girl, a 'normal' escort session is quite good. Not much DFK or fingers at TPC.  But still, on the day, this was an excellent time and for pure fucking value, tough to beat. I will go back when the mood hits - and pretty useful as a back up plan.

I note they have two 7-girl parties on NY Eve.  Might try to find a way....

TrevorN

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Emma's new Partner ?? You mean her extension as a Pimp  :hi:

Moss deffo off the scene then .

Kassanova

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Evening party for some reason, never explained,  began 10 minutes late

Offline smiths

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Booking easy.  Phoned in the morning.  Got text back confirming with new address. 2 hours £160. Plus 10 minutes change/shower time not in the 2 hours.

Venue.  Their new (ish) location is very fit for purpose. Two big play rooms, & a lounge. Place to change.  Could use one more bathroom.

Girls.  Good line up.  6 hot babes of various types.  And Barbara, who is not that hot, but likeable and a good fuck.

So I decided to return to TPC. Greeted by Em's new partner.  Saw Em in the background.  This was an old fashioned LMP day: 14 guys and 7 girls. While I used to think low ratio was the best, 2:1 is still fine and a full party can add to the vibe. This was true for this party.  A good time and I was never really cueing up.  With Em in charge, there was no selfish behaviour allowed - the girls were all happy to give a BJ while being fucked or whatever else was needed to accommodate a 2nd guy.  With guys on breaks, I had plenty of 1:1 anyway.

After a shower under Barbara's watchful eye, I got a drink and headed to the lounge.  Girls all introduced themselves.  I forgot all their names except for Paloma (the hottest by my standards) and Cindy (cuz named after a doll).  I started with (I think) Luiza (guessing from crap pic on website).  Was in 2nd place which meant I was giving her RO as she gave some guy a BJ.  He got off and went away.  Then she gave me a BJ and then climbed on top and fucked me.  I went next door and did the same to Ree, meaning fun second place than had a turn. She was very tall, very hot blonde with well done fake tits.  Nice girl.  Did her in mish.  Cindy was on the bed next to us - grabbed her a bit as I fucked Ree.  When I was done there were two guys playing with Cindy so I took a break. Never made it back...shame.

Had a great 1:1 session with Paloma.  Totally amazing body and great medium sized natural tits.  Very nice. Then I fucked Barbara.  Ok a bit of a big girl, but her pussy is still tight.  Break 2.  Had a nice catch up with Em. 

I finished with MFF with Sarah and Rebecca.  Somehow with all the guys there was still a bonus two-some at the end.  Another guy did appear so I was just with Rebecca the last 15 minutes.  I had though Paloma was my best but Rebecca in fact was equally hot, and the service she coaxed out of little Dan was amazing.  So she gets my 5 stars for the day.

Overall a good party.  Not my thing as much as it was a few years back.  With the right girl, a 'normal' escort session is quite good. Not much DFK or fingers at TPC.  But still, on the day, this was an excellent time and for pure fucking value, tough to beat. I will go back when the mood hits - and pretty useful as a back up plan.

I note they have two 7-girl parties on NY Eve.  Might try to find a way....

Good to see someone I view as credible do a recent review and have a good party. :thumbsup: I hope TPC now offers this standard to ALL punters at EVERY party. And good to hear Em was present and in charge.


Offline jeezyuk

Tempting. Still have my reservations but this is a good review.

If I wasn’t saving up for a gangbang with Woofie, I’d be on it at NYE

Offline jimmypoo


After a shower under Barbara's watchful eye......


I found it very off-putting at some of the girls insistence of supervising the showers.

I always arrived squeaky clean and was only too happy to freshen up before the party begun.

But part of freshening up for me would include a quick jimmy and an anal exhale.

For some reason the girls supervising never appreciated this.




TrevorN

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If I wasn’t saving up for a gangbang with Woofie, I’d be on it at NYE

£260 for 3 hrs NYE parties and Murga will no doubt oversubscribe the 2.1 ratio like she did on the xmas parties . Overpriced . Crap girls apart from 1 or 2 .

Oh dare not to  say anything bad about her party . Murga Pimpess will do her best to out you ....

 :hi:

Offline Kingy28

£260 for 3 hrs NYE parties and Murga will no doubt oversubscribe the 2.1 ratio like she did on the xmas parties . Overpriced . Crap girls apart from 1 or 2 .

Oh dare not to  say anything bad about her party . Murga Pimpess will do her best to out you ....

 :hi:

The Christmas parties were £260 for 4 hours but the NYE parties are only 3 hours for the same money. Barbara & Toni are the only ones down to do both.

vt

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a quick jimmy and an anal exhale.

I've never had a problem with having a jimmy riddle before hopping in the shower, but I always get any anal exhalations out of the way before entering confined spaces...I don't want to cause any deaths by asphyxiation!!  :lol:

Offline jeezyuk

I've never had a problem with having a jimmy riddle before hopping in the shower, but I always get any anal exhalations out of the way before entering confined spaces...I don't want to cause any deaths by asphyxiation!!  :lol:

 :lol:

When nature calls it calls!

Offline jeezyuk

The Christmas parties were £260 for 4 hours but the NYE parties are only 3 hours for the same money. Barbara & Toni are the only ones down to do both.

I do agree that this price is not on. Also girls doing both parties - not justifiable.

But this goes even deeper ... Indulge me a bit ...

We currently pay 160£ for 2 hours for 5WGs with a shower, some food and drink and laundry - which is IMHO above market rate.

- If you are like me and have 2-3 beers at the party, that’s 15£ at London rate.
- Average hotel charges 50£/20hours (2pm check in and 10am check out) - 2.5£ per hour. That's accommodation.
- 10£ for the shower, booking handling and laundry is reasonable IMHO
- 30 condoms cost 20£. I use about 10 when I’m there for a 2 hour session so let's say... ((10/30)*20)/2 = 3.5£ in condoms per hour roughly.
- costs per punter per party equal: fixed 25£ for shower, maid, laundry and beer. 6£ per hour for accommodation and condoms.

UK minimum wage is 7.50£ an hour. I think 15£ an hour is fair because that’s what I earn. I have a degree and certifications and I work with my hands in the elements. This IMHO is a lot more demanding than sucking cock, time wasting and drinking beer.

Most firms like mine, make a sustainable profit around 2-5%. Assume the high end of the profit spectrum (5%).

For a 2 hour party -
10 punters ... [ (10*25£) + (10*6*2) ] = 370£
(5 girls x 2hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 150£
With 5% profit - 546£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 10 punters will pay 160£ each = 1600£ ... 2.93x the ROC


For a 3 hour party -
14 punters ... [ (14*25£) + (14*6*3) ] = 602£
(7 girls x 3hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 315£
With 5% profit - 962.85£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 14 punters will pay 260£ each = 3640£ ... 3.78x the ROC


For a 4 hour party -
16 punters ... [ (16*25£) + (16*6*4) ] = 784£
(8 girls x 4hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 480£
With 5% profit - 1327.2£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 16 punters will pay 260£ each = 4160£ ... 3.13x the ROC


Profit Factor Summary:

2 hour party: 2.93x ROC
3 hour party: 3.78x ROC
4 hour party: 3.13x ROC

Clearly Em has done her homework and realised that a 3 hour party maximises her profits.
There is really no significant financial benefit to be derived form a 4 hour party since the difference is only 0.2x ROC.

Given the nature of the business ... if we say that 2x ROC is fair due to risk and possible payoffs to secure the premises etc... then parties should cost:

2 hour party - (546*2)/10 =109.2£
3 hour party - (962.85*2)/14 = 137.55£
4 hour party -  (1327.2*2)/16 = 165.9£

No wonder she lives in a mansion...

Let's state some facts:

The TPC girls are reasonably good looking.
Website maintenance must cost a bit of time and money but my figures above should cover that easily.
Service can be variable.
Overbooking is a norm.
Accommodation, food and toiletry standards have dropped from Hyde Park days.
 
...But look .. it's clear that Em does her homework and cons us more everyday .. because she knows that we will think with our dicks and pay her rates...

It's been said many times before ... TPC is the only party available blablabla ...
That's true but why do we have to get robbed so fucking much ?? ...

Often times I think with my penis and I want to fuck, so I pay her rates... The other night I read the review at the top of this thread under the influence of some beer and with a full load .. I was down for a NYE party ...
However, today when I sat down - gun empty and sober ... I did this calc and thought ... FUCK ME she is cleverly robbing us more! ...

I imagine I will go back because my gun will reload and I will have urges to satisfy .. but I just dislike how much we all get conned and I really think TPC needs to operate on a fairer basis ... You are holding the monopoly Em and you are fucking milking us. Stop that shit.

Em robs us and then find better ways to do it .. WTF?

Whatever.. not even sure why I'm posting this when I will want to fuck and will go back .. but at this moment in time .. I'm unhappy with how fucking much she optimises her strategy to rob us...

Merry Xmas all
« Last Edit: December 26, 2017, 02:30:04 am by jeezyuk »

TrevorN

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I do agree that this price is not on. Also girls doing both parties - not justifiable.

But this goes even deeper ... Indulge me a bit ...

We currently pay 160£ for 2 hours for 5WGs with a shower, some food and drink and laundry - which is IMHO above market rate.

- If you are like me and have 2-3 beers at the party, that’s 15£ at London rate.
- Average hotel charges 50£/20hours (2pm check in and 10am check out) - 2.5£ per hour. That's accommodation.
- 10£ for the shower, booking handling and laundry is reasonable IMHO
- 30 condoms cost 20£. I use about 10 when I’m there for a 2 hour session so let's say... ((10/30)*20)/2 = 3.5£ in condoms per hour roughly.
- costs per punter per party equal: fixed 25£ for shower, maid, laundry and beer. 6£ per hour for accommodation and condoms.

UK minimum wage is 7.50£ an hour. I think 15£ an hour is fair because that’s what I earn. I have a degree and certifications and I work with my hands in the elements. This IMHO is a lot more demanding than sucking cock, time wasting and drinking beer.

Most firms like mine, make a sustainable profit around 2-5%. Assume the high end of the profit spectrum (5%).

For a 2 hour party -
10 punters ... [ (10*25£) + (10*6*2) ] = 370£
(5 girls x 2hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 150£
With 5% profit - 546£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 10 punters will pay 160£ each = 1600£ ... 2.93x the ROC


For a 3 hour party -
14 punters ... [ (14*25£) + (14*6*3) ] = 602£
(7 girls x 3hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 315£
With 5% profit - 962.85£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 14 punters will pay 260£ each = 3640£ ... 3.78x the ROC


For a 4 hour party -
16 punters ... [ (16*25£) + (16*6*4) ] = 784£
(8 girls x 4hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 480£
With 5% profit - 1327.2£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 16 punters will pay 260£ each = 4160£ ... 3.13x the ROC


Profit Factor Summary:

2 hour party: 2.93x ROC
3 hour party: 3.78x ROC
4 hour party: 3.13x ROC

Clearly Em has done her homework and realised that a 3 hour party maximises her profits.
There is really no significant financial benefit to be derived form a 4 hour party since the difference is only 0.2x ROC.

Given the nature of the business ... if we say that 2x ROC is fair due to risk and possible payoffs to secure the premises etc... then parties should cost:

2 hour party - (546*2)/10 =109.2£
3 hour party - (962.85*2)/14 = 137.55£
4 hour party -  (1327.2*2)/16 = 165.9£

No wonder she lives in a mansion...

Let's state some facts:

The TPC girls are reasonably good looking.
Website maintenance must cost a bit of time and money but my figures above should cover that easily.
Service can be variable.
Overbooking is a norm.
Accommodation, food and toiletry standards have dropped from Hyde Park days.
 
...But look .. it's clear that Em does her homework and cons us more everyday .. because she knows that we will think with our dicks and pay her rates...

It's been said many times before ... TPC is the only party available blablabla ...
That's true but why do we have to get robbed so fucking much ?? ...

Often times I think with my penis and I want to fuck, so I pay her rates... The other night I read the review at the top of this thread under the influence of some beer and with a full load .. I was down for a NYE party ...
However, today when I sat down - gun empty and sober ... I did this calc and thought ... FUCK ME she is cleverly robbing us more! ...

I imagine I will go back because my gun will reload and I will have urges to satisfy .. but I just dislike how much we all get conned and I really think TPC needs to operate on a fairer basis ... You are holding the monopoly Em and you are fucking milking us. Stop that shit.

Em robs us and then find better ways to do it .. WTF?

Whatever.. not even sure why I'm posting this when I will want to fuck and will go back .. but at this moment in time .. I'm unhappy with how fucking much she optimises her strategy to rob us...

Merry Xmas all

You missed 1 point.  The NYE parties she Pimp Muruga will oversubscribe them ..unfortunately the punters will not notice as they will be too pissed to notice. Oh and her new boyfriend Raj who has taken  over from Moss  will be joining in the fun . Just as he did during the Xmas parties. 

Offline Titti Tatti

I do agree that this price is not on. Also girls doing both parties - not justifiable.

But this goes even deeper ... Indulge me a bit ...

We currently pay 160£ for 2 hours for 5WGs with a shower, some food and drink and laundry -





... You are holding the monopoly Em and you are fucking milking us. Stop that shit.

Em robs us and then find better ways to do it .. WTF?

Whatever.. not even sure why I'm posting this when I will want to fuck and will go back .. but at this moment in time .. I'm unhappy with how fucking much she optimises her strategy to rob us...

Merry Xmas all

No idea how long it took you to post that but the answer is fxxxxxg obvious

-there is no Monopoly, simply a lack of competition.  There is nothing to prevent you from going into competition with her. I'll bet you find its not that easy and if you are going to take the risk of 'living off the earnings of prostitution, you'll want to be compensated at a suitAbly Hugh(ha spellchecker error) level.

God luck with your new venture.


Offline jeezyuk

You missed 1 point.  The NYE parties she Pimp Muruga will oversubscribe them ..unfortunately the punters will not notice as they will be too pissed to notice. Oh and her new boyfriend Raj who has taken  over from Moss  will be joining in the fun . Just as he did during the Xmas parties.

Yeh I hear you.

About this Raj ...Surely the point of him being her boyfriend is he fucks her only??

NVM nothing makes sense in this world anymore

Offline jeezyuk

No idea how long it took you to post that but the answer is fxxxxxg obvious

-there is no Monopoly, simply a lack of competition.  There is nothing to prevent you from going into competition with her. I'll bet you find its not that easy and if you are going to take the risk of 'living off the earnings of prostitution, you'll want to be compensated at a suitAbly Hugh(ha spellchecker error) level.

God luck with your new venture.

Yes mate .. a monopoly means there is no competition.

And I did say that double (2x ROC) would be fair... but triple?

Anyway .. it took me about half hour to make the post but I feel it was justified in my moment of disappointment with her practices.

Now just seems like time I could have spent watching the Ashes on Sky Sports

TrevorN

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Evening party for some reason, never explained,  began 10 minutes late

So late starts as well now.  Perfect !!! That's all the punters needs for parting their hard earned . Assholes Muruga & Raj

Who ever mentioned Mruga has botoxed  her brain cells out was bang on the money... :thumbsdown:
« Last Edit: December 26, 2017, 09:37:10 am by TrevorN »

Offline smiths

I do agree that this price is not on. Also girls doing both parties - not justifiable.

But this goes even deeper ... Indulge me a bit ...

We currently pay 160£ for 2 hours for 5WGs with a shower, some food and drink and laundry - which is IMHO above market rate.

- If you are like me and have 2-3 beers at the party, that’s 15£ at London rate.
- Average hotel charges 50£/20hours (2pm check in and 10am check out) - 2.5£ per hour. That's accommodation.
- 10£ for the shower, booking handling and laundry is reasonable IMHO
- 30 condoms cost 20£. I use about 10 when I’m there for a 2 hour session so let's say... ((10/30)*20)/2 = 3.5£ in condoms per hour roughly.
- costs per punter per party equal: fixed 25£ for shower, maid, laundry and beer. 6£ per hour for accommodation and condoms.

UK minimum wage is 7.50£ an hour. I think 15£ an hour is fair because that’s what I earn. I have a degree and certifications and I work with my hands in the elements. This IMHO is a lot more demanding than sucking cock, time wasting and drinking beer.

Most firms like mine, make a sustainable profit around 2-5%. Assume the high end of the profit spectrum (5%).

For a 2 hour party -
10 punters ... [ (10*25£) + (10*6*2) ] = 370£
(5 girls x 2hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 150£
With 5% profit - 546£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 10 punters will pay 160£ each = 1600£ ... 2.93x the ROC


For a 3 hour party -
14 punters ... [ (14*25£) + (14*6*3) ] = 602£
(7 girls x 3hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 315£
With 5% profit - 962.85£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 14 punters will pay 260£ each = 3640£ ... 3.78x the ROC


For a 4 hour party -
16 punters ... [ (16*25£) + (16*6*4) ] = 784£
(8 girls x 4hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 480£
With 5% profit - 1327.2£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 16 punters will pay 260£ each = 4160£ ... 3.13x the ROC


Profit Factor Summary:

2 hour party: 2.93x ROC
3 hour party: 3.78x ROC
4 hour party: 3.13x ROC

Clearly Em has done her homework and realised that a 3 hour party maximises her profits.
There is really no significant financial benefit to be derived form a 4 hour party since the difference is only 0.2x ROC.

Given the nature of the business ... if we say that 2x ROC is fair due to risk and possible payoffs to secure the premises etc... then parties should cost:

2 hour party - (546*2)/10 =109.2£
3 hour party - (962.85*2)/14 = 137.55£
4 hour party -  (1327.2*2)/16 = 165.9£

No wonder she lives in a mansion...

Let's state some facts:

The TPC girls are reasonably good looking.
Website maintenance must cost a bit of time and money but my figures above should cover that easily.
Service can be variable.
Overbooking is a norm.
Accommodation, food and toiletry standards have dropped from Hyde Park days.
 
...But look .. it's clear that Em does her homework and cons us more everyday .. because she knows that we will think with our dicks and pay her rates...

It's been said many times before ... TPC is the only party available blablabla ...
That's true but why do we have to get robbed so fucking much ?? ...

Often times I think with my penis and I want to fuck, so I pay her rates... The other night I read the review at the top of this thread under the influence of some beer and with a full load .. I was down for a NYE party ...
However, today when I sat down - gun empty and sober ... I did this calc and thought ... FUCK ME she is cleverly robbing us more! ...

I imagine I will go back because my gun will reload and I will have urges to satisfy .. but I just dislike how much we all get conned and I really think TPC needs to operate on a fairer basis ... You are holding the monopoly Em and you are fucking milking us. Stop that shit.

Em robs us and then find better ways to do it .. WTF?

Whatever.. not even sure why I'm posting this when I will want to fuck and will go back .. but at this moment in time .. I'm unhappy with how fucking much she optimises her strategy to rob us...

Merry Xmas all

At LMP in 2008/9 I went to all the 4 hour parties which always included two on the same day held 2 hours apart, they cost me £260 then but with 12-16 WGs per party and always a few of the same WGs at both parties. I got a deal for attending both parties, I paid about £460 in all for 8 hours partying. And they NEVER exceeded 2.1 ratio, in fact I often heard Moss turning punters down on the phone saying they were full. To me that was great VFM then.

As to what a pimp charges, they all charge what they think or know from experience they can get off enough punters to continue being a pimp. LMP cost £120 for 2 hours a decade or so ago, then it went up to £140 then later to £160, punters still attended.

Offline jeezyuk

At LMP in 2008/9 I went to all the 4 hour parties which always included two on the same day held 2 hours apart, they cost me £260 then but with 12-16 WGs per party and always a few of the same WGs at both parties. I got a deal for attending both parties, I paid about £460 in all for 8 hours partying. And they NEVER exceeded 2.1 ratio, in fact I often heard Moss turning punters down on the phone saying they were full. To me that was great VFM then.

As to what a pimp charges, they all charge what they think or know from experience they can get off enough punters to continue being a pimp. LMP cost £120 for 2 hours a decade or so ago, then it went up to £140 then later to £160, punters still attended.

I would love a 12-16 WG party.

Wish I had experienced those days. the math doesn’t lie and she is full of shit.

Too bad being horny is worse than being drunk lol

TrevorN

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I would love a 12-16 WG party.

Wish I had experienced those days. the math doesn’t lie and she is full of shit.

Too bad being horny is worse than being drunk lol

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Offline thetinman007

Your contributions are always highly valued 1 review Trevor

Offline smiths

Your contributions are always highly valued 1 review Trevor

Pro-rata you aren't far ahead of him yourself, 6 reviews in getting on for 5 years, unlike you he has only been a member just over 1 year. :rolleyes:

Offline jeezyuk

I think the one thing that comes out of all these reviews is that a lot of people hate Em’s business model.

If she operated more fairly, the forum would portray her more favourably.

It is a shame she doesn’t heed this advice because with all due respect, it takes a lot of balls to do what she does. Plus she is a woman ... a lot of men wouldn’t do it much less for women. (Sorry if that is sexist)

Maybe one day she will see the sense in what I am trying to say when I express disappointment in her refined con-artistry


vt

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I think the one thing that comes out of all these reviews is that a lot of people hate Em’s business model.

If she operated more fairly, the forum would portray her more favourably.

It is a shame she doesn’t heed this advice because with all due respect, it takes a lot of balls to do what she does. Plus she is a woman ... a lot of men wouldn’t do it much less for women. (Sorry if that is sexist)

Maybe one day she will see the sense in what I am trying to say when I express disappointment in her refined con-artistry

The maths is infinitely more simple than you made it jeezy...if you don't think paying £80ph to play with the girls there is worth it, just don't go...I'm sure they won't be that distraught if you don't!  :hi:

Offline Kingy28

The maths is infinitely more simple than you made it jeezy...if you don't think paying £80ph to play with the girls there is worth it, just don't go...I'm sure they won't be that distraught if you don't!  :hi:
But they don't get paid the £133.33 per party if the numbers drop below a 1:1 ratio so they will be unhappy if punters don't go. They don't care who goes, as long as they get their £400 per day.
Also, they don't get paid any extra when the 2:1 ratio is exceeded. The extra cash goes straight into Em's pocket. Now that does piss the whores off. They don't appreciate that one bit.

TrevorN

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The extra cash goes straight into Em's pocket. Now that does piss the whores off.

Yep Em loves the extra £ in her pocket or should I say Mruga Young . Chief Proprietor of The Phoenix Parties . Procurement of prostitutes to have sex with customers . Chief Pimp off the highest order . Showing off her wealth off immoral earnings on channel 5 . Her lavish mansion and fast cars . Plus all the £ laundered back to Gujrat ( India ) her time will catch up with her soon . She most probably join the ear eater Chloe Hammond in a prison cell .

I'm still in stitches how Mruga says her parties are swingers club and not a brothel and all is legal . Silly cow .

 :hi:
« Last Edit: December 26, 2017, 06:36:15 pm by TrevorN »

Offline smiths

But they don't get paid the £133.33 per party if the numbers drop below a 1:1 ratio so they will be unhappy if punters don't go. They don't care who goes, as long as they get their £400 per day.
Also, they don't get paid any extra when the 2:1 ratio is exceeded. The extra cash goes straight into Em's pocket. Now that does piss the whores off. They don't appreciate that one bit.

The maximum ratio should never ever be exceeded in the first place, it being a max 2.1 is a main reason they charge a premium price. Em was able to ensure it wasn't exceeded in my hundreds of parties so why not now at every party.

TPC like LMP has 3 chances to make profit per day, if they ever don't break even over 3 parties if Em doesn't take the hit herself and pay the WGs the agreed fee she will lose WGs over time, as its her job to make sure enough punters do book and show. That's basically what being a party pimp involves.

Offline jeezyuk

The maths is infinitely more simple than you made it jeezy...if you don't think paying £80ph to play with the girls there is worth it, just don't go...I'm sure they won't be that distraught if you don't!  :hi:

The one thing you fail to realise is Em cares about how she is portrayed.

Or else she wouldn’t have touted on here or gotten WKs to do it.

Let’s hope our constant pressure gets her to improve things.

Offline SirCharles

So late starts as well now.  Perfect !!! That's all the punters needs for parting their hard earned . Assholes Muruga & Raj

Who ever mentioned Mruga has botoxed  her brain cells out was bang on the money... :thumbsdown:
It's me  :rose:
Yes, she is full of botox, especially in her tiny brain, whichbis even smaller inside her 2 twin bitches  :drinks:

Offline SirCharles

Yep Em loves the extra £ in her pocket or should I say Mruga Young . Chief Proprietor of The Phoenix Parties . Procurement of prostitutes to have sex with customers . Chief Pimp off the highest order . Showing off her wealth off immoral earnings on channel 5 . Her lavish mansion and fast cars . Plus all the £ laundered back to Gujrat ( India ) her time will catch up with her soon . She most probably join the ear eater Chloe Hammond in a prison cell .

I'm still in stitches how Mruga says her parties are swingers club and not a brothel and all is legal . Silly cow .

 :hi:
The only explanation why she has not been caught is that she probably bribes met pol and/or HMRC, very simple

Offline SirCharles

I do agree that this price is not on. Also girls doing both parties - not justifiable.

But this goes even deeper ... Indulge me a bit ...

We currently pay 160£ for 2 hours for 5WGs with a shower, some food and drink and laundry - which is IMHO above market rate.

- If you are like me and have 2-3 beers at the party, that’s 15£ at London rate.
- Average hotel charges 50£/20hours (2pm check in and 10am check out) - 2.5£ per hour. That's accommodation.
- 10£ for the shower, booking handling and laundry is reasonable IMHO
- 30 condoms cost 20£. I use about 10 when I’m there for a 2 hour session so let's say... ((10/30)*20)/2 = 3.5£ in condoms per hour roughly.
- costs per punter per party equal: fixed 25£ for shower, maid, laundry and beer. 6£ per hour for accommodation and condoms.

UK minimum wage is 7.50£ an hour. I think 15£ an hour is fair because that’s what I earn. I have a degree and certifications and I work with my hands in the elements. This IMHO is a lot more demanding than sucking cock, time wasting and drinking beer.

Most firms like mine, make a sustainable profit around 2-5%. Assume the high end of the profit spectrum (5%).

For a 2 hour party -
10 punters ... [ (10*25£) + (10*6*2) ] = 370£
(5 girls x 2hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 150£
With 5% profit - 546£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 10 punters will pay 160£ each = 1600£ ... 2.93x the ROC


For a 3 hour party -
14 punters ... [ (14*25£) + (14*6*3) ] = 602£
(7 girls x 3hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 315£
With 5% profit - 962.85£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 14 punters will pay 260£ each = 3640£ ... 3.78x the ROC


For a 4 hour party -
16 punters ... [ (16*25£) + (16*6*4) ] = 784£
(8 girls x 4hours x 15£/hour/girl ) = 480£
With 5% profit - 1327.2£ is a respectable operating cost (let's call it ROC)

Consider that 16 punters will pay 260£ each = 4160£ ... 3.13x the ROC


Profit Factor Summary:

2 hour party: 2.93x ROC
3 hour party: 3.78x ROC
4 hour party: 3.13x ROC

Clearly Em has done her homework and realised that a 3 hour party maximises her profits.
There is really no significant financial benefit to be derived form a 4 hour party since the difference is only 0.2x ROC.

Given the nature of the business ... if we say that 2x ROC is fair due to risk and possible payoffs to secure the premises etc... then parties should cost:

2 hour party - (546*2)/10 =109.2£
3 hour party - (962.85*2)/14 = 137.55£
4 hour party -  (1327.2*2)/16 = 165.9£

No wonder she lives in a mansion...

Let's state some facts:

The TPC girls are reasonably good looking.
Website maintenance must cost a bit of time and money but my figures above should cover that easily.
Service can be variable.
Overbooking is a norm.
Accommodation, food and toiletry standards have dropped from Hyde Park days.
 
...But look .. it's clear that Em does her homework and cons us more everyday .. because she knows that we will think with our dicks and pay her rates...

It's been said many times before ... TPC is the only party available blablabla ...
That's true but why do we have to get robbed so fucking much ?? ...

Often times I think with my penis and I want to fuck, so I pay her rates... The other night I read the review at the top of this thread under the influence of some beer and with a full load .. I was down for a NYE party ...
However, today when I sat down - gun empty and sober ... I did this calc and thought ... FUCK ME she is cleverly robbing us more! ...

I imagine I will go back because my gun will reload and I will have urges to satisfy .. but I just dislike how much we all get conned and I really think TPC needs to operate on a fairer basis ... You are holding the monopoly Em and you are fucking milking us. Stop that shit.

Em robs us and then find better ways to do it .. WTF?

Whatever.. not even sure why I'm posting this when I will want to fuck and will go back .. but at this moment in time .. I'm unhappy with how fucking much she optimises her strategy to rob us...

Merry Xmas all
Every girl gets £400 per party as per previous posts (confirmed by girls), i.e. ROC is £1036.66...so, apart of pre-Christmas/december it is profitable but not so much.. where Mruga pimp makes money is probably selling the girls privately outside the party which is a good excuse for creating ancillary business around that; it happens in most of the businesses, think about airlines (low cost, but also carriers, unprofitable on certain routes just to support hub/long hauls) or even MacDonald who makes the highest margins not with burghers but with crap milk shakes or watered cola/soft drinks...
So, Mruga pimp is botoxed from feet to hair but she is on the ground and perseverant, kind of hat on for that

Offline Steely Dan

Smiths: Thanks for the kind words. And your constructive and neutral/factual comments here and always.

I see one earlier review of TPC from jeezyuk.  Thanks. All reviews help guide punters.

For those other posters who may not have ever been to TPC based on lack of reviews, you are welcome to post a negative comment on my review.  I was just sharing my experience, not taking sides.  A response adds balance. But posting 4 or 5 negative comments on my positive review is unwelcome.  Why not start your own thread? Or if you have been, post a review?

I refuse to defend anything about this place for others, I just share my own experience.  I have no ability to mind read what escorts think, nor can I review the NYE party before it happens.  I don't have insight into the old Bill, nor do I understand botox in the brain, nor understand what it has to do with my last visit to TPC. But I will share the view that TPC closing down would reduce the choice for punters and that is not good. I may never go back, but I hope this place survives and thrives. That is good for punters.  And that those of you who don't want to attend, that you don't attend by mistake.

Offline jeezyuk

Smiths: Thanks for the kind words. And your constructive and neutral/factual comments here and always.

I see one earlier review of TPC from jeezyuk.  Thanks. All reviews help guide punters.

For those other posters who may not have ever been to TPC based on lack of reviews, you are welcome to post a negative comment on my review.  I was just sharing my experience, not taking sides.  A response adds balance. But posting 4 or 5 negative comments on my positive review is unwelcome.  Why not start your own thread? Or if you have been, post a review?

I refuse to defend anything about this place for others, I just share my own experience.  I have no ability to mind read what escorts think, nor can I review the NYE party before it happens.  I don't have insight into the old Bill, nor do I understand botox in the brain, nor understand what it has to do with my last visit to TPC. But I will share the view that TPC closing down would reduce the choice for punters and that is not good. I may never go back, but I hope this place survives and thrives. That is good for punters.  And that those of you who don't want to attend, that you don't attend by mistake.

Fair enough mate. I do agree that some of the damning posts on this thread aren’t tasteful or relevant.

My grievance is with the operating model and not with the establishment or the operator.

I agree it is bad for punters if the place closes down.

I attend when the urge overcomes my better judgement.

I appeal once more to Em to stop over-charging punters and deliver the standard everyone is desirous of.

Btw .. I’ve done 3 TPC reviews in my time. Not that it matters.. just for the record.

Good review and well the discussion is just an inevitable byproduct  :hi:

Whenever new insights are apparent, I post them.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 02:43:55 am by jeezyuk »

Offline hardhans75

hardhans75  What the fuck are you reporting this post for  :unknown:

Dude, i dont want to get into the middle of this stupid fight between some guys here and Em , but that picture is in bad taste......i never attended a phoenix club party but i attended lots of LMP ones and have some good memories from there......but this is silly , this forum is good for finding and highlighting the best and warning of dangers.....

Even if someone was ratted out and you have ratted hers including putting her house picture , where does it stop ?

TrevorN

  • Guest
Dude, i dont want to get into the middle of this stupid fight between some guys here and Em , but that picture is in bad taste......i never attended a phoenix club party but i attended lots of LMP ones and have some good memories from there......but this is silly , this forum is good for finding and highlighting the best and warning of dangers.....

Even if someone was ratted out and you have ratted hers including putting her house picture , where does it stop ?

Her house ..her face she put it out herself when going on Channel 5 .

What she forget to tell the producers of the show was she got it all by pimping .

 :hi:

TrevorN

  • Guest

Or else she wouldn’t have touted on here or gotten WKs to do it.


Exactly..must of been 10 kicked off for touting . 1 or 2 linked  to Mruga/Moss I recall .

Offline smiths

Exactly..must of been 10 kicked off for touting . 1 or 2 linked  to Mruga/Moss I recall .

Yes 10 including Em herself double nicking against the rules and 1 whose only other post said it was Moss so also double nicking, that's how much respect they showed admin. :thumbsdown:

Em and her supporters really shouldn't be surprised that when she decided to put herself and the twins in the public eye on TV wanting fame and calling themselves the British kardasians that someone might post about it on here. What a stupid thing for a pimp to do in my view, keeping as low a profile as possible is the smart thing to do. I stick to her service offered myself but as admin posted there is no problems posting about her, she sought fame and that's a consequence of doing so.

Offline jeezyuk

I agree with both smiths and trevor.

The one thing I don’t support is Em ratting others out or others ratting Em out.

We all have to be mindful and considerate that our actions (if we rat), will impact punters like ourselves so it is not in anyone’s interest to encourage a trend of ratting either way.

Em, I hope you listen to my words and do not try to kill competitors. There are rules of engagement that need to be followed.

Similarly, we can criticise Em’s methods and what she put out in the media, but I discourage irrelevant slander.

We are all on a fine line in this hobby and I think we need to make sure we don’t lose ourselves with personal agendas ... or else we might screw up the entire hobby for everyone else.

TrevorN

  • Guest
Em, I hope you listen to my words and do not try to kill competitors.


Any rival she she's as a threat ..she can't afford a dent in her business..and yeh she's killed competitors with underhand tactics ringing plod. The last being Cambridge Parties .


 :hi:

Offline Mcping

Still waiting for someone to suggest a better party....

TrevorN

  • Guest
Still waiting for someone to suggest a better party....

None at present..they have all been raided.  Thanks to Mruga & her chums  . Sooner the tide will change and she be put to bed in a prison cell with her Raj..who does her pimping duties time to time . Hopefully a raid on TPC in 2018 will open up other providers to have ago at parties in London .

Offline Steely Dan

None at present..they have all been raided.  Thanks to Mruga & her chums  . Sooner the tide will change and she be put to bed in a prison cell with her Raj..who does her pimping duties time to time . Hopefully a raid on TPC in 2018 will open up other providers to have ago at parties in London .
You are wrong and don't understand punting nor market economics.  I wish you would review some of your positive punts and stop all the negative obsession with this one venue.  Can you post another review perhaps? Are you even a punter? 

(And BTW McPing, LJE - see party page - may be better party though not cheaper)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 08:25:51 pm by Steely Dan »

Online hendrix

None at present..they have all been raided.  Thanks to Mruga & her chums  . Sooner the tide will change and she be put to bed in a prison cell with her Raj..who does her pimping duties time to time . Hopefully a raid on TPC in 2018 will open up other providers to have ago at parties in London .

I've never been to one of these parties and have no interest in doing so, but your posts sound very bitter and personal. Are you a rival pimp? Or been ripped off or something? Post your experience maybe?

TrevorN

  • Guest
Are you a rival pimp? Or been ripped off or something? Post your experience maybe?

 :unknown:

Offline davidgood

Still waiting for someone to suggest a better party....

FYI the page of Punting Wiki is up to date with all the active party providers in and around London.

They may not be 'better' parties but probably offer better VFM.

If anyone knows of any parties which are not in the Wiki then please let us know.

Regards,

davidgood