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I haven't posted any images in this thread for months, you are by far the most active member here, the one that keeps this thread "alive" therefore I think your opinion regarding this has a lot more weight than mine (being the OP is irrelevant). So if you think it should continue including bottled redheads, ebony redheads, gingers, etc you have my full support, because if it wasn't for you the thread would be dead and forgotten by now + I suspect that if it's limited to natural redheads there might not be enough WGs to support an on-going thread like for example happened to the "Kiwis & Aussies" thread.

And there you have it Mister Purves. FCB has been a gent & a scholar, and given you the conn. Use it well   ;)

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Damn good points made all round. I personally think the bottled ones are a bit of a waste of time as women can be pretty fickle about their hair. By the time you get around to seeing them they will probably be blondies?  :wackogirl:

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Damn good points made all round. I personally think the bottled ones are a bit of a waste of time as women can be pretty fickle about their hair. By the time you get around to seeing them they will probably be blondies?  :wackogirl:

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I don't know mate, I didn't think about the issues raised when I started the thread, but I'll tell you something...

I haven't posted any images in this thread for months, you are by far the most active member here, the one that keeps this thread "alive" therefore I think your opinion regarding this has a lot more weight than mine (being the OP is irrelevant). So if you think it should continue including bottled redheads, ebony redheads, gingers, etc you have my full support, because if it wasn't for you the thread would be dead and forgotten by now + I suspect that if it's limited to natural redheads there might not be enough WGs to support an on-going thread like for example happened to the "Kiwis & Aussies" thread.

Thanks and as always from The Illustrious FCB  :hi:, a gent and scholar as Heph has alluded to.

A good response - not quite sure what to say apart from my usual party line in these situations viz those who do not want false dyed hair in the thread (or the direction of  any thread even) are more than welcome to contribute more to change the thread in any directions they like, but sitting on the sidelines and not participating seems a contradiction in terms to me.

Nonetheless, I am more than willing to listen to as many views as possible on the subject.

Again thank you The Illustrious FCB for the insights  :hi:

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I suspect that if it's limited to natural redheads there might not be enough WGs to support an on-going thread like for example happened to the "Kiwis & Aussies" thread.

limiting it makes the info more useful, don’t it? at the moment it’s the same as starting a thread on the holy grail that is Japanese girls but allowing Chinese/Korean/Thai girls to be included

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limiting it makes the info more useful, don’t it? at the moment it’s the same as starting a thread on the holy grail that is Japanese girls but allowing Chinese/Korean/Thai girls to be included

I am not sure it does tbh because people will interpret redheads accordingly, so for some this includes ginger. Personally, I do not think ginger are redheads, they are ginger.

If we take a more fundamental approach, then I agree with The Illustrious FCB  :hi: this thread would have died out a long time because of the scarcity of redheads in the population let alone WGs who are naturally redheads

Nevertheless, your point is taken
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limiting it makes the info more useful, don’t it? at the moment it’s the same as starting a thread on the holy grail that is Japanese girls but allowing Chinese/Korean/Thai girls to be included

If there were natural redhead WGs in sufficient numbers a more limited/restrictive criteria would of course be more useful but unfortunately (IMO) there aren't enough of them to make such s thread viable, the way I see it Peter Purves approach is a sort of compromise that makes the thread viable.

I don't think anyone is pretending that it's ideal (is impossible to please everyone)) for those looking exclusively for "natural" ones but is still useful (IMO)....

Let's say a member looking for redheads "proper" checks this thread once a week and assume 3WGs posted daily, so that's 21 WGs posted, how long would it take that member to check those 21 images and determine if any of then is a "natural" ?(and bear in mind pics are already posted so no need to click to profile to see if she's a natural or not)

Less than five minutes?

And how many of those 21 WGs are likely to be naturals?
None or maybe one?
Which brings back to the lack of "critical mass" of naturals, I think that a very restrictive criteria could lead to just one or two post a month if you're lucky.
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If there were natural redhead WGs in sufficient numbers a more limited/restrictive criteria would of course be more useful but unfortunately (IMO) there aren't enough of them to make such s thread viable, the way I see it Peter Purves approach is a sort of compromise that makes the thread viable.

I don't think anyone is pretending that it's ideal (is impossible to please everyone)) for those looking exclusively for "natural" ones but is still useful (IMO)....

Let's say a member looking for redheads "proper" checks this thread once a week and assume 3WGs posted daily, so that's 21 WGs posted, how long would it take that member to check those 21 images and determine if any of then is a "natural" ?(and bear in mind pics are already posted so no need to click to profile to see if she's a natural or not)

Less than five minutes?

And how many of those 21 WGs are likely to be naturals?
None or maybe one?
Which brings back to the lack of "critical mass" of naturals, I think that a very restrictive criteria could lead to just one or two post a month if you're lucky.

I'd personally be happy with a smaller selection of quality finds now and then over a super-abundance of chaff and filler which doesn't make the grade - quality beats volume for me.

That said, I'm truly grateful for the resource and the pointers that it gives, and I ought to damn well start contributing finds myself. If it were permissible to extend one request for general consideration -please do look out for freckles on my account: I'll be most thankful. I hope that all contributors will continue to excercise their very best judgement, and, rather than trying to meet some self-imposed daily or weekly quota, might instead ask themselves if their favourite redheads would approve the new entry as belonging to the tribe.

There are plenty of shades of red to choose from -copper, ginger, auburn, golden, red copper, rose gold, black cherry and from my observations, the strawberry blondes have been most conspicious by their absence.


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I'd personally be happy with a smaller selection of quality finds now and then over a super-abundance of chaff and filler which doesn't make the grade - quality beats volume for me.


Would creating a page in puntinwiki for natural redheads only be useful?

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Would creating a page in puntinwiki for natural redheads only be useful?

Hallo FCB. My tuppenceworth - I believe that since some of the enthusiasts have aired the points amicably enough, there's no reason to create undue work. Girls flit in and out of business so often that it'd be the devils job to keep stuff updated to avoid a graveyard of dead links.

It's a very useful thread and though I've occasionally baulked at the stretch of some inclusions, it's up to viewers to shape to the standards that we wish to see.


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limiting it makes the info more useful, don’t it? at the moment it’s the same as starting a thread on the holy grail that is Japanese girls but allowing Chinese/Korean/Thai girls to be included

+1

Posting a thread with women who might have coloured their hair a red hue at some point (recently) isn't that useful because they could well have changed the colour since.

A thread about genuine reds (auburn, ginger and other shades) and SPs who are happy to dye their hair at request would be very useful.  Some punters may well have the pockets to pay a good looking gal with the right services to colour her hair, whether on the cheap with a wash-in tint or by pro-salon treatment.  Fuck it, if we can find the obliging girls then we could crowd-source the colouring.

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I can't help but add my observations. Mind you these are just my opinions and I understand the opposing views.

- Creating a wiki-page sounds like un-necessary extra work that probably wont get as much attention as this thread. It would need to be created and maintained. Once a punter has reviewed it once they are less likely to return to it. This thread maintains itself via user contributions, and if you have contributed you are notified of new additions to review. So many profiles are here today gone tomorrow, once you've read through the thread once and HL'd any favourites only the new additions are of any interest (Excuse my ignorance if a Wiki works the same way, I've never contributed to one.)

- The inclusive nature of a broad definition of Redheaded SP's should encourage interest and contribution from more UKP members. Catching more fish with a wider net. Personally it's the "fake" redheads that seem to catch my eye and encourage my interest. But if I spot a red I've never noticed before I always aim to add her to this thread for the benefit of all. Peter Purves does an exceptional job of spotting them, almost always beating me to the post.

- Unfortunately, due to the rarity of the "natural" redheads (copper, ginger, auburn, golden, red copper, rose gold, black cherry, strawberry blondes, etc). I think I have only managed to add one since this thread started 8 months ago (Freckly enough for you Heph? :D):

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Long list of enjoys, but includes swallow despite not having CIM listed, so take with a pinch of salt.

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Fuck it, and she's gone already too! (forgot to check the profile was still live before quoting my older post.)

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Claims a 28FF chest when she's clearly more like a 30 A/B, if you saw her already then some brief comments would be useful.  If you haven't already then hope you are being cautious or can say why you're going anyway?


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- Unfortunately, due to the rarity of the "natural" redheads (copper, ginger, auburn, golden, red copper, rose gold, black cherry, strawberry blondes, etc). I think I have only managed to add one since this thread started 8 months ago (Freckly enough for you Heph? :D):


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Isn't she just delightful? _ damn!... and gone.

They are out there: we know they are.

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I'd personally be happy with a smaller selection of quality finds now and then over a super-abundance of chaff and filler which doesn't make the grade - quality beats volume for me.

yep that's exactly my point

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If this one's been posted before - forgive me, I can't be certain that my search for duplicate posts was thorough enough

Regrettably pricey. And I haven't dabbled myself, but by golly I'd like to...

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If this one's been posted before - forgive me, I can't be certain that my searching for duplication was thorough.

Regretably pricey. And I haven't dabbled, but by golly I'd like to...


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If this one's been posted before - forgive me, I can't be certain that my search for duplicate posts was thorough enough

Regrettably pricey. And I haven't dabbled myself, but by golly I'd like to...

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stupid money for what she offers, which seems to be quite vanilla.  lack of profile info suggests a couldn't give a fuck attitude.  so many other sp's out there offering better value, red hair or not.

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Regrettably pricey. And I haven't dabbled myself, but by golly I'd like to...

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The potential impact of extoling the differences differences of "natural" red vs "fake" red, then emphasising the virtues and rarity of the former. It can only serve to encourage rarified pricing. £250 per hour? Ouch!

There is some benefit from the effort of sifting rusty waters. Instead of building copper pedestals.  ;)
 

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The potential impact of extoling the differences differences of "natural" red vs "fake" red, then emphasising the virtues and rarity of the former. It can only serve to encourage rarified pricing. £250 per hour? Ouch!

There is some benefit from the effort of sifting rusty waters. Instead of building copper pedestals.  ;)

I don't believe that those two things- 'natural red' and 'higher price' are correlated, either in general, or this instance. She happens to be towards the pricier side of the commonplace range £100-£300 that all London punters deal with: and it's almost certainly as a result of what she feels she can command - on the basis of her desirability as a whole - it's nothing to do with the scarcity of gingers.

Few people enjoy paying more than they strictly have to: I can assure you I am not one of them. If she is wrong, she will have to lower her prices - as we see many do in response to market demand. I would far prefer that this woman charge much less, and, at some point, she almost certainly will have to: but just right now, she feels in the seat. If that changes, we'll be amongst the first to know, and to get the opportunity to put our money on the table.

Quoth Nik:

Makes me laugh when people think £200 or even £150 is expensive in central London. I don't know what they expect to get for say £80. I have paid £250 and even £300 in the past and received far worse service than Nicoletta (or Michelle).

Yes, obviously price doesn't correlate to service in punting, but believe me you will get fuck all decent in central London for less than at least £120. If someone is charging less than that you immediately think why? Are they a scammer or a skank? What is for certain they won't be any good. I don't care what anyone says, that is a copper bottom guarantee.

There are those who know differently, or might disagree, but about the realistic extent of their lower bounds is £80/£90 - and generally speaking, that is to narrow one's choices down very significantly - you'd currentlly lose 80%+ of the available market for a 1hr apppointment.


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Posted a question about hot natural redheads a while back and was kindly pointed in the direction of this thread.
I did eventually find what I was looking for, so many thanks. Link below...

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Higher price bracket but certainly worth it for me.

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Posted a question about hot natural redheads a while back and was kindly pointed in the direction of this thread.
I did eventually find what I was looking for, so many thanks. Link below...

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I booked via her website but I think she has a page on Adultwork too.

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Great find: a stunning young woman. That fee though...   :cry:

Are you currently penning the review?

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Oh another Golden Pussy at £600 per hour!  :scare:
Thanks but I think I’ll pass.  ;)

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One of my first girlfriends was a natural auburn haired beauty. Why oh why  did I let her slip away from me! I did see a red haired beauty at HOD in London a year or so back, but I don’t think she stayed long.

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One of my first girlfriends was a natural auburn haired beauty. Why oh why  did I let her slip away from me! I did see a red haired beauty at HOD in London a year or so back, but I don’t think she stayed long.

They've always been my favourites. Glad I've now found a decent one in London. Always open to finding a backup though!
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An unusual one here, described on the profile, as half ginger/half black, dreadlocks

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An unusual one here, described on the profile, as half ginger/half black, dreadlocks

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 :lol: My first thought was "What? Can't think of any mixed race Polish people that I've met or head of! She looks far too pale for that to be true!" (What a dumbass I am)

After scanning over the profile I realised she means her hair. She has dreadlocks that are half brunette and half died red (or more like orange looking at the photo's.)

She has reminded me of a similar polish girl I knew in civvie life years ago. She had several tattoo's and multi coloured dreadlocked hair. Her free spirited attitude made me occassionally wonder if she was a WG on the side.

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Posted a question about hot natural redheads a while back and was kindly pointed in the direction of this thread.
I did eventually find what I was looking for, so many thanks. Link below...

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I booked via her website but I think she has a page on Adultwork too.

Higher price bracket but certainly worth it for me.

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What a joke, she wants your full legal name, LinkedIN account, a deposit ( :dash:) and is only £600 per hour  :sarcastic:

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no pro$$ie is worth dropping 600 notes on, she's not even what i'd call a stunner.  seen much better looking advertising for £100 or less

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What a joke, she wants your full legal name, LinkedIN account, a deposit ( :dash:) and is only £600 per hour  :sarcastic:
Yeah right. Got to be a first  :dash:
I’m sure there are plenty of well heeled sophisticated punters willing to give those details out to a prossie I’m sure!  :wacko:
On the other hand I would offer her a special deal. She’s welcome to know my certified intimate measurements and take a large oral deposit for a discount?

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She forgot to photoshop her wrinkles on that pic

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And Redheads, for me, is all about the natural characteristics which almost invariably come with it: pale skin is a given. Freckles and blue eyes are preferred, though not essential.


I try usually not to post WGs who have profiles that existed before this thread was created. I decided to make an exc-Heph-tion this time round ;)

For the man himslf...

Not much to work with hair I'm afraid but nonetheless

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I try usually not to post WGs who have profiles that existed before this thread was created. I decided to make an exc-Heph-tion this time round ;)

For the man himslf...

Not much to work with hair I'm afraid but nonetheless

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This is very gentlemanly  - and appreciated.  Confined to phone atm and can't see for strong sunlight, but I wanted to acknowledge and thank you.

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Hopefully, this one can pass??  :unknown:

It is strange that those who were most vocal with regard to who should be an entrant, have gone ominously (or should that be anony-mously  :P )quiet with regard to posting  :rolleyes:.

As a result I am going to post as I see fit... So do ignore my opening salvo  :P  ;)

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Hopefully, this one can pass??  :unknown:

It is strange that those who were most vocal with regard to who should be an entrant, have gone ominously (or should that be anony-mously  :P )quiet with regard to posting  :rolleyes:.

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I don't expect to find any genuine reds amongst the sub-150 ladies my budget allows for, given the nationalities involved.  If I treat myself to a 150+ then I'll let you know if I find one in the agencies but likely I'll try SA or fishing around CL and GT for the better value.

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Cheers - unfortunately, outside the remit of this thread specifically London.

I don't expect to find any genuine reds amongst the sub-150 ladies my budget allows for, given the nationalities involved.  If I treat myself to a 150+ then I'll let you know if I find one in the agencies but likely I'll try SA or fishing around CL and GT for the better value.

Cheers LLPunting  :thumbsup:
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I'm surprised this profile hasn't appeared on this thread yet.

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Good track record, but I've only just noticed her thanks to this new review: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=218846.0

Not sure where on the red spectrum she sits. Her hair looks to have a natural reddish hue to me (along with a pale but rosy cheeked complexion), and she describes it as Red Brown in her interview.

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I'm surprised this profile hasn't appeared on this thread yet.

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Good track record, but I've only just noticed her thanks to this new review: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=218846.0

Not sure where on the red spectrum she sits. Her hair looks to have a natural reddish hue to me (along with a pale but rosy cheeked complexion), and she describes it as Red Brown in her interview.

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Cheers,

Funnily enough, she was mentioned in the Bubble Butt thread recently by Punther.

I suspect she has not been mentioned here is that at least 99 % of profile (date) entrants occur at the time this thread was created, in Dec 2017, and thereafter
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Cheers,

Funnily enough, she was mentioned in the Bubble Butt thread recently by Punther.

I suspect she has not been mentioned here is that at least 99 % of profile (date) entrants occur at the time this thread was created, in Dec 2017, and thereafter

As I was saying...

And to add now - a review by the Punther

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The hair is certainly tinted or dyed, which is less than ideal, but given her pallour, eys and freckles, there's a strong-ish probability of a natural redhead underneath.

And I'd normally avoid profiles which include any mentions of 'Godess', or 'Worship', however obliquely; but for the sake of this thread and others' discernment...

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The hair is certainly tinted or dyed, which is less than ideal, but given her pallour, eys and freckles, there's a strong-ish probability of a natural redhead underneath.

And I'd normally avoid profiles which include any mentions of 'Godess', or 'Worship', however obliquely; but for the sake of this thread and others' discernment...

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Cheers, more than acceptable  ;)
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She’s on my HL, but I don’t think she escorts at all  :(
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Sorry but am travelling at the mo and don’t have time to look them all up...

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There seems to be at least 10 redheads in this group.
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Sorry but am travelling at the mo and don’t have time to look them all up...

Cheers Mate!

I took the time to go through the profiles  (about 80 %) until I became disinterested and found there were no redhead escorts. They were either s/cammers, profile inactive, or outside London etc. I found a possible Bubble Butt candidate though  ;)
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Cheers Mate!
I found a possible Bubble Butt candidate though  ;)
Good man. Thanks for the work. All is not totally lost then ?  :dance: