Would you be OK with your GF/fiance/wife/mother of your children to be a pro$$ie

[squeezebox]

Indeed the imagination does, my partners difficult times have been when he is quiet at work and the thoughts go wild.

In another post you quoted he was an ex-client, so he "should" be able to deal with this conflict.

I could imagine it would be a real turn on when you manage some personal time together, bit like make up sex. 

[Rochdull lad]

That is the main thing, no man no matter how self assured needs to be reminded of that when in a relationship with a WG. Whilst he may know that it took him being attractive to me in every manner and an awful lot for me to break a professional boundary, there is certainly no harm reminding him how bloody awesome he is. Thankfully that comes naturally.

Yes it is a major thing to get involved. No idea how he has coped with it and will do going ahead. I think he simply has no choice, he can't live without.

Very interesting comment, Holly.  I write as one of the much less self-assured [in the words of the old put-down, "He's a modest man, with a lot to be modest about."] who couldn't quite believe the effect I appeared to have on the WG with whom I was blurring the boundaries.

Apologies for posting this here; it's perhaps more relevant to the Emotional Attachment Syndrome thread.  And, fwiw, I think that the WG I'm writing about was as good an actress as you say you are!

[Paulie]

Slightly off topic, but I've always wondered what makes WGs take up the profession. Has there ever been a discussion about this? Are there enough WGs posting here to get a good feedback?

[hollysbeenabadgirl]

In another post you quoted he was an ex-client, so he "should" be able to deal with this conflict.

I could imagine it would be a real turn on when you manage some personal time together, bit like make up sex. 

It makes it harder actually, as he knows only to well that I bring far too much of myself into my work and simply can not be any other way. He had others to compare me with.

No, no turn on at all. I know another couple local to me and they have exactly the same struggles. Having a deep conversation with the gentleman has helped me understand that to be with a WG you either see her as a free shag or you are in so deep that there is no 'choice' even if it kills.

[hollysbeenabadgirl]

Very interesting comment, Holly.  I write as one of the much less self-assured [in the words of the old put-down, "He's a modest man, with a lot to be modest about."] who couldn't quite believe the effect I appeared to have on the WG with whom I was blurring the boundaries.

Ha. My partner has said the same many times, as far as he is concerned he is nothing 'special'. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't *shrugs* but to me he is. I know a few stunners in this industry, their partners are quite ordinary gents, I think some of us look past the normal things, far more than non WG's as it takes a lot for most of us to blur our lines and there needs to be major connections.

Yeah it is derailing, but I guess the threads are quite linked.

[Tailpipe]

It makes it harder actually, as he knows only to well that I bring far too much of myself into my work and simply can not be any other way. He had others to compare me with.

No, no turn on at all. I know another couple local to me and they have exactly the same struggles. Having a deep conversation with the gentleman has helped me understand that to be with a WG you either see her as a free shag or you are in so deep that there is no 'choice' even if it kills.

Looking at other threads about crossing lines , this rings so true. However not the place anyone wants to be in. Its Hell 
 

[SteveNova]

Slightly off topic, but I've always wondered what makes WGs take up the profession. Has there ever been a discussion about this? Are there enough WGs posting here to get a good feedback?

It's interesting that it's often a question that people feel should be asked in general - not so of most other occupations.  It also underlies this thread - that there is something inherently different about selling sex, as opposed to selling other labour or brain power.  Looking at it logically, it shouldn't be regarded as somehow requiring explanation.  So why is it an occupation that most on here say they wouldn't want their relative involved in, and where would you draw the line - actress simulating sex, page three girl, burlesque dancer, erotic dancer, stripper, glamour model, lap dancer, masseuse with happy ending, working girl. 

[Daffodil]

It's interesting that it's often a question that people feel should be asked in general - not so of most other occupations.  It also underlies this thread - that there is something inherently different about selling sex, as opposed to selling other labour or brain power.  Looking at it logically, it shouldn't be regarded as somehow requiring explanation.  So why is it an occupation that most on here say they wouldn't want their relative involved in, and where would you draw the line - actress simulating sex, page three girl, burlesque dancer, erotic dancer, stripper, glamour model, lap dancer, masseuse with happy ending, working girl.

I explained in an earlier post why I think prostitution isn't an attractive 'career' and why most people, including punters, wouldn't want a close one doing it. You chose to ignore it despite it being made in conversation with you, I imagine because you can't argue with it.

To recap:

1) Prostitutes lose respect.
2) They jeopardise current and future relationships.
3) They expose themselves to an increased risk of sexual disease.
4) They expose themselves to physical violence.
5) They have a work history 'black hole'.

I really don't think it's hard to understand.

[SteveNova]

I explained in an earlier post why I think prostitution isn't an attractive 'career' and why most people, including punters, wouldn't want a close one doing it. You chose to ignore it despite it being made in conversation with you, I imagine because you can't argue with it.

To recap:

1) Prostitutes lose respect.
2) They jeopardise current and future relationships.
3) They expose themselves to an increased risk of sexual disease.
4) They expose themselves to physical violence.
5) They have a work history 'black hole'.

I really don't think it's hard to understand.

I don't always keep replying in a thread.  I put my points and so did you.  This post was more about why WGs receive less respect than others.  Not all are exposing themselves to a higher risk of disease than many 'civilians' do on repeated nights out.  Covered services are relatively risk free;  working in a safe environment such as a good establishment can greatly reduce the risk of violence; many people have employment 'black holes' due to unemployment or travelling.  Relationships I agree may be complex but so are many 'civilian' ones.  I still think it's just a question of perception - the general public look down on those who sell sex.  My other point is, where is the line drawn - a page three girl, actress doing a sex scene, porn star etc?

[Daffodil]

I don't always keep replying in a thread.  I put my points and so did you.  This post was more about why WGs receive less respect than others.  Not all are exposing themselves to a higher risk of disease than many 'civilians' do on repeated nights out.  Covered services are relatively risk free;  working in a safe environment such as a good establishment can greatly reduce the risk of violence; many people have employment 'black holes' due to unemployment or travelling.  Relationships I agree may be complex but so are many 'civilian' ones.  I still think it's just a question of perception - the general public look down on those who sell sex.  My other point is, where is the line drawn - a page three girl, actress doing a sex scene, porn star etc?

Everybody has their own opinion on where to draw the line, but when the number of people drawing the line and placing the job/act/behaviour in a negative light reaches a critical point it becomes very undesirable. In between it's a spectrum.

Just because it's your opinion, Steve, that selling your body for sex is fine, doesn't change the fact that many don't think it's fine. That is very unlikely to change. As such, the job remains undesirable and I for one would strongly discourage a relative/partner from doing it. The negative stigma is far too great, whether you think that's right or not.

Yes, other people expose themselves to risk on nights out/one night stands etcetera, but how many are doing it every night and with multiple partners, thus truly equating with your average prossie. And I suggest that that sort of behaviour in a civilian would lose them a lot of respect and be discouraged. Covered services are less risky than uncovered, of course, but they still have a failure rate. Fuck more people, increase your risk.

Working in a good establishment may reduce your risk, but not to zero. I also don't know what percentage of prossies work like this, but I imagine it's far from the majority.

The majority of men, certainly in the general public, would never date an active prossie and many wouldn't want a long-term relationship with an ex-prossie. There are few behaviours that have such a negative impact on relationships, even though I agree other issues can complicate one.

[Tailpipe]

1) Prostitutes lose respect.
2) They jeopardise current and future relationships.
3) They expose themselves to an increased risk of sexual disease.
4) They expose themselves to physical violence.
5) They have a work history 'black hole'.

I really don't think it's hard to understand.

Simple compelling and Factual those are the big downsides I see no arguments that can be put forward to defend any of those.

[lovingfacials]

TP

In reply

Do all people inc w/g 'crave' respect of society - i think not

Again compare people who sleep around on a friday night to those who use protection - exposure to STI's can be reduced/limited

With good screening processes violence can be limited to normal risks mainstream people are also exposed to

Black hole ???? if you are working with a mindset of parisB who travels the world earns good money etc why worry re black hole, unless she or others are stupid they will be saving putting £££ aside, also Ive seen LOADS of women who have a 5 - 10 BLACK HOLE on their cv which can be explained away, i/e children, starting a family, career break etc

I am not saying these points are not relevant  - but they are simplistic and sterotypical - not all w/g are stupid who burn through ££££ ok maybe many are but there are loads who are not & have an exit strategy - be it earn good cash get out, find a rich partner, sugar daddy etc....

[Tailpipe]

TP

In reply

Do all people inc w/g 'crave' respect of society - i think not

Again compare people who sleep around on a friday night to those who use protection - exposure to STI's can be reduced/limited

With good screening processes violence can be limited to normal risks mainstream people are also exposed to

Black hole ???? if you are working with a mindset of parisB who travels the world earns good money etc why worry re black hole, unless she or others are stupid they will be saving putting £££ aside, also Ive seen LOADS of women who have a 5 - 10 BLACK HOLE on their cv which can be explained away, i/e children, starting a family, career break etc

I am not saying these points are not relevant  - but they are simplistic and sterotypical - not all w/g are stupid who burn through ££££ ok maybe many are but there are loads who are not & have an exit strategy - be it earn good cash get out, find a rich partner, sugar daddy etc....

There is much in your post that I would also agree with, however the context of the OP in its purest form

"Would you be OK with your GF/fiance/wife/mother of your children to be a pro$$ie"


The facts stated remain facts, as core reasons for not giving consent to 
GF/fiance/wife/mother of your children to be a prossie.

However I personally have no problems with prossies in many ways they are one of my favourite types of people   

My default position is to be respectful to everyone.

[SteveNova]

I agree that there is a general view of those who sell sex which is not at all positive: 'fallen women', 'no respect for themselves' and suchlike.  They are also more likely to be regarded as victims, drawn into an abusive world and exploited.  Unfortunately in this scenario we (punters) are viewed in a similarly disparaging light - as we are seen to be doing the exploiting, along with those managing some of the girls.  Of course it's all bunkum - at least in relation to girls I've seen.  We uniquely, on these type of forums, are part of the selling sex experience.  Generally we keep quiet about our activities, but we do get to see  working girls who are not exploited, and appear happy in their work.  The positives for the girls are 'loads a money'! working for yourself, excitement and the thrill of a double life existence (don't we enjoy that secret world ourselves!) Not forgetting that some sexual activities with some punters must be enjoyable - I'm sure we're not all hard work!  I suppose what I'm saying is that there can be a list of positives and negatives for most occupations.  I do agree that being a working girl is a special kind of activity and requires a special talent, disposition or whatever.  It's certainly not for everyone, and it's going to impact on their life for sure - whether positively or not who knows!  For a working girl to have support from their family can only be a good thing - though I don't underestimate the kind of dramas and tensions that may be part and parcel of that support for some.

[Paulie]

It's interesting that it's often a question that people feel should be asked in general - not so of most other occupations.  It also underlies this thread - that there is something inherently different about selling sex, as opposed to selling other labour or brain power.  Looking at it logically, it shouldn't be regarded as somehow requiring explanation. So why is it an occupation that most on here say they wouldn't want their relative involved in, and where would you draw the line - actress simulating sex, page three girl, burlesque dancer, erotic dancer, stripper, glamour model, lap dancer, masseuse with happy ending, working girl.

It's not an 'explanation' that I was thinking about. I have a kind of half-baked theory that some WGs are in it just for the money, and others because they like having sex. That's like most jobs, I suppose. 

[lovingfacials]

There is much in your post that I would also agree with, however the context of the OP in its purest form

"Would you be OK with your GF/fiance/wife/mother of your children to be a pro$$ie"


The facts stated remain facts, as core reasons for not giving consent to 
GF/fiance/wife/mother of your children to be a prossie.

However I personally have no problems with prossies in many ways they are one of my favourite types of people   

My default position is to be respectful to everyone.

And my earlier answer is NO...........

however not everyone has the same background or opportunities or mindset as me so their choices may differ,

that said if a w/g was earning £100k per year tax free seeing the world staying in 5 star hotels, enjoying the life in her 20 -30'S & had both the body & the business sense to make it work & be secure for the remainder of their life I can see why it may appeal

god willing mine will go to uni get 'white collar' jobs and not go down that route, but I am not naive enough to think it couldnt happen, I hope it does not, and as you say TP I try to speak to all people in my day to day life as I would want my children spoken to by others - simple manners, repsect etc

[Daffodil]

And my earlier answer is NO...........

however not everyone has the same background or opportunities or mindset as me so their choices may differ,

that said if a w/g was earning £100k per year tax free seeing the world staying in 5 star hotels, enjoying the life in her 20 -30'S & had both the body & the business sense to make it work & be secure for the remainder of their life I can see why it may appeal

god willing mine will go to uni get 'white collar' jobs and not go down that route, but I am not naive enough to think it couldnt happen, I hope it does not, and as you say TP I try to speak to all people in my day to day life as I would want my children spoken to by others - simple manners, repsect etc

So you don't want your whatever doing it, but criticise valid points raised as being stereotypical or whatever, but don't bother stating your own reasons why you'd be against a partner doing it. You sound confused 

The one in a million prossie that you talk about is largely fairy tale and isn't how the majority of prossies are.

[Daffodil]

but there are loads who are not & have an exit strategy - be it earn good cash get out, find a rich partner, sugar daddy etc....

If it is such a worthwhile 'job' why do so many even need a 'get out'? 

[squeezebox]

If it is such a worthwhile 'job' why do so many even need a 'get out'? 

For those that make the choice, it's a means to an end. Ain't gonna get rich on my meagre pickings. 

[Paulie]

If it is such a worthwhile 'job' why do so many even need a 'get out'?

"Ours not to reason why - ours is just to wank or buy" 

[lovingfacials]

"Ours not to reason why - ours is just to wank or buy" 

if anyone can not see why an exit strategy is required by switched on w/g's  then they must be fucking thick as pig shit  ..............women are not like fine wine they dont all age well with time - gravity catches up, things sag, skin becomes less taut etc....and younger models come on the marketplace.

it is a limited shelf life & so an exit strategy like making good ££££ for a short peroid of tme or catching a rich guy to sustain their ££££ burn rate is required unless of course they want to end up as

External Link/Members Only




its not hard to undertand is it 

[Rochdull lad]

if anyone can not see why an exit strategy is required by switched on w/g's  then they must be fucking thick as pig shit  ..............women are not like fine wine they dont all age well with time - gravity catches up, things sag, skin becomes less taut etc....and younger models come on the marketplace.

it is a limited shelf life & so an exit strategy like making good ££££ for a short peroid of tme or catching a rich guy to sustain their ££££ burn rate is required unless of course they want to end up as

External Link/Members Only




its not hard to undertand is it 

I think that's true up to a point, lf.  And while I could never imagine seeing those Fokkens sisters , there's surely a market for brighter, more savvy WGs who are [to continue your analogy] closer to Barolo, Chablis or Sancerre than a £5 bottle of plonk and who, by looking after themselves physically, can work in

 a different niche market [MILFs as opposed to nubile young things] as they grow older, thereby prolonging their shelf-life.

[lovingfacials]

I think that's true up to a point, lf.  And while I could never imagine seeing those Fokkens sisters , there's surely a market for brighter, more savvy WGs who are [to continue your analogy] closer to Barolo, Chablis or Sancerre than a £5 bottle of plonk and who, by looking after themselves physically, can work in

 a different niche market [MILFs as opposed to nubile young things] as they grow older, thereby prolonging their shelf-life.

RL

I agree and many a fine tune etc... but the facts of life remain gravity and time to women are a bitch........and yes many a milf in her late 30'S Early 40'S With expereince etc will be a great shag/company etc....but even these should have a exit strategy....

[Paulie]

RL

... even these should have a exit strategy....

Haha - you mean when their fannies get worn out, they start doing A-levels 

[Rochdull lad]

And talking to the ones I see regularly in that age-group, they mostly do!

[akauya]

RL

I agree and many a fine tune etc... but the facts of life remain gravity and time to women are a bitch........and yes many a milf in her late 30'S Early 40'S With expereince etc will be a great shag/company etc....but even these should have a exit strategy....

A little off topic this but time and gravity affects men too. The few times I have the strength to see myself in the mirror I go fuck! What the hell happened where has that good looking dashing young man gone? All I see now is a middle aged, balding, overweight, ugly bastard staring back at me 

And I don't have an exit strategy!

[lovingfacials]

A little off topic this but time and gravity affects men too. The few times I have the strength to see myself in the mirror I go fuck! What the hell happened where has that good looking dashing young man gone? All I see now is a middle aged, balding, overweight, ugly bastard staring back at me 

And I don't have an exit strategy!

+1

Haha fucking spot on mate..............sad I used to have plenty of dash, now all I see is some cunt in the mirror...........WTF

[Daffodil]

if anyone can not see why an exit strategy is required by switched on w/g's  then they must be fucking thick as pig shit  ..............women are not like fine wine they dont all age well with time - gravity catches up, things sag, skin becomes less taut etc....and younger models come on the marketplace.

it is a limited shelf life & so an exit strategy like making good ££££ for a short peroid of tme or catching a rich guy to sustain their ££££ burn rate is required unless of course they want to end up as

External Link/Members Only




its not hard to undertand is it 

I see you still have me on your ever growing ignore list  That being the case, I find it rather pathetic that you argue my points after seeing them quoted by others and then quote their posts. Especially as quoting their posts makes no sense. Feel free to ignore me, but if you're going to argue with me, at least be a man about it 

As RL says, there is a market for 'milfs' and 'gilfs'. Granted less of a market than for young prossies, but also less providers. You have a very closed mind if you think prossies have to stop doing it because they age.

Nobody is saying that a prossie shouldn't have an exit plan, you spectacularly miss the point. They all do, but it's because even prossies don't want to be prossies 

[James999]

I see you still have me on your ever growing ignore list

Lovingfacials doesn't even have the balls to use the ignore list, that's just what he says when someone shows him up as a twat, thus the list he uses that line on is growing 

[Rochdull lad]

Lovingfacials doesn't even have the balls to use the ignore list, that's just what he says when someone shows him up as a twat, thus the list he uses that line on is growing 

And your point relevant to this thread is, James??

[lovingfacials]

RL

Dont worry mate - everyone on here knows or finds out very quickly James is merely a troll, a one trick pony, trying to pick fights & then wave his clown hand as they get banned.

he is peeved he has yet to get me banned & wave me goodbye & was merely baiting - the only twat is him, i  treat him with the disdain he warrants/deserves

hes very boring & very predictable..........now he will have to respond with some 'biting comment'  rather then let  sleeping dogs lie...........boring, predictable and so very sad, that he is so protective of his online persona & must defend his little slice of the internet

wheres the yawn button...........

[NaturalMystique]

As much as I do what I do... I would not be comfortable with my partner doing it. I am way too jealous. I also believe that a man shouldn't have to accept sharing his lady either. The ones who do I think are very strong minded

[overhead]

As much as I do what I do... I would not be comfortable with my partner doing it. I am way too jealous. I also believe that a man shouldn't have to accept sharing his lady either. The ones who do I think are very strong minded

I used to think that it would be quite possible to have a prostitute as a partner. But now I think it would be very difficult. I know one girl who does it that I have never been with sexually and I've seen the anxiety she generates among those people around her. She talks about it as though it's a normal job and everyone should accept it as such, but it plainly isn't. Also all the jerking around that goes on mainly from unreliable punters she passes on to everyone else by becoming the same herself, and she has changed from an easy going reliable person into an absolute nightmare. She has become so unreliable in her normal life that it's not at all funny, yet she expects everyone to fit in with her. It's like the behaviour of a drug addict, but I am very sure she is not one. My personal experience quite apart from this particular individual is that prostitutes in the main are the most unreliable people on the planet bar none. Living with or being married to one would be a nightmare. I think it would be difficult too facing up to the amount of sex your female partner is experiencing. Especially if she becomes too tired of it to be bothered much at home.

There's another aspect to it as well that I am beginning to learn about, and that is that in some cases because they are doing it so often, they become very demanding and difficult sexually with a normal partner, who doesn't have anything like the same amount of experience.

[NaturalMystique]

I used to think that it would be quite possible to have a prostitute as a partner. But now I think it would be very difficult. I know one girl who does it that I have never been with sexually and I've seen the anxiety she generates among those people around her. She talks about it as though it's a normal job and everyone should accept it as such, but it plainly isn't. Also all the jerking around that goes on mainly from unreliable punters she passes on to everyone else by becoming the same herself, and she has changed from an easy going reliable person into an absolute nightmare. She has become so unreliable in her normal life that it's not at all funny, yet she expects everyone to fit in with her. It's like the behaviour of a drug addict, but I am very sure she is not one. My personal experience quite apart from this particular individual is that prostitutes in the main are the most unreliable people on the planet bar none. Living with or being married to one would be a nightmare. I think it would be difficult too facing up to the amount of sex your female partner is experiencing. Especially if she becomes too tired of it to be bothered much at home.

There's another aspect to it as well that I am beginning to learn about, and that is that in some cases because they are doing it so often, they become very demanding and difficult sexually with a normal partner, who doesn't have anything like the same amount of experience.

I need clarification on why WGs are the most unreliable people. Especially since the work dictates that they HAVE to be prompt

[Tailpipe]

I need clarification on why WGs are the most unreliable people. Especially since the work dictates that they HAVE to be prompt

Just read some threads will answer you questions , good WGs and few and fair between
Shit ones are everywhere .

[hollysbeenabadgirl]

NaturalMystique despite working with some really awful WG's and hearing some regulars talk of various experiences in the past, I really had no idea. In fact I was utterly naive to just how bad a lot of WG's are from a punters POV.

Stick around and you will learn. In fact UKPunting is essential reading for a WG IMO. 

[circusbizarre]

I do know some guys who have working girls for girlfriends. I have no idea how they cope with it. Good luck to them

[Tailpipe]

I do know some guys who have working girls for girlfriends. I have no idea how they cope with it. Good luck to them

We have posted on this subject on another thread , To me it's a very complex dynamic  and we had lots of input from WGs with guys in there lifes
but I still ending up confused on the subject.

I would never punt a WG knowingly that had a BF. However I am sure I have punted many that did.

Others would say they do not give shit as long as they got good service.

However I believe that service will be effected purely due to the fact that they would wish to retain
Something special for their private relationship so anyone seeking a GFE is in my view unlikely to get
One with a WG that is involved in a relationship. 

I am sure that a WG can still provide services but any connection in a GFE sense is unlikely.

I would have no problem dating an ex WG and have done on more than once.   This is not something I would recommend however.
To me it only has two upsides , it’s a relationship base on truth and the sex is good. Other than that it's all downside.

But I would not be interested in Dating one that was still working,

[bristolqwerty]

Was thinking the same question as my go to escort certainly has a BF. 
Not sure I'd want a family member doing this but agree with the previous chap in regards to treating escorts with respect as It's a valuable service for many.  It's 2 way thing too ladies. 
Reminds me of booking / bonking a young escort in London and on my way out her BF from the next flat along the corridor came in after me not happy about the extended time and enjoyment (verbal) we were enjoying.  Got a text a few mins later from her saying cum again.... 

[Ali Katt]

Hidden Image/Members Only

[bristolqwerty]

 

[fishermen]

What a daft questionto start with! someone must have been very bored and vacuum-headed

[bristolqwerty]

There’s many out there who tolerate it.  Good income = GF sucking others dicks, sometimes OWO, they ALL can’t be single.... 
I checked for this particular question before bumping as I’m curious. 

[Ali Katt]

There’s many out there who tolerate it.  Good income = GF sucking others dicks, sometimes OWO, they ALL can’t be single.... 
I checked for this particular question before bumping as I’m curious. 

They're known as cuckolds, unless they are getting off on it there is no reason to tolerate it if it is your wife.

[bristolqwerty]

Marriage vowels at church would be interesting.
To have and to hold, for better or for worse.

[piggy1]

The principle of it wouldn't bother me really as it's just a job and I don't really have any sexual hangups.

But, I think I would be worried the gf/wife would fall for someone else whilst in the job. I would also worry about broken
condoms and violent (or condom ripping) punters.

[joe diddley]

I reckon that one of the main issues would be all the stress of this kind of work that she is likely to be bringing home. Stress in terms of meeting new possibly unpleasant clients and of keeping the two parts of one's life properly compartmentalised. (Ask any WG how many mobile phones she has for the different areas of her life.) I would think that these factors take their toll and induce burn out with quite a few women in this game, and that this stress might make quite a few WGs difficult spouses, girlfriends, etc., regardless of issues to do with morality, etc.

Funnily enough, I've been told by some Soho walkup girls that they prefer to work in the way that they do, because quite a bit of this stress is taken off their shoulders by their maids (who screen customers and provide a degree of security if they're any good) and by their conditions of not having to deal with bookings, advertise, talk to clients on the phone, clearer rules that are understood by most concerned [usually no DFK, OWO or anal], worry about dusty phones, etc.). May not be everyone's cup of tea insofar as the volume of clients is greater, but these factors do make it work for some of them insofar as they can put the job out of their minds more easily when they knock off.

[Colston36]

I'm a bit eccentric, as I like the idea. And to put a slight spin on it I'm seeing two girls with the boyfriend of one next Thursday.

I suspect from conversations with another girl that it can be a bit of a tangled web; she was upset because her partner was seeing another girl, and threw him out, but he wheedled his way back in.

I also am very good friends with a girl, now retired, whose husband I met and spent a fair amount of time talking to, though not asking him his views. I spent a weekend with her (her treat, it's a complicated story) while he was away watching cricket.

A great scientist - J. B. S Haldane - once remarked that "life is not only queerer than we imagine; it is queerer than we can imagine".

[Autopunter]

Absolutely spot on SJ and a point I've tried to make in other threads (the Emotional Attachment one most recently) 

What's sauce for the goose...

I get what you're saying here, but I'm pretty sure punters are even more despised than WGs, even though there's still a lot of sotto voiced mutterings about the laadeez, and strident public campaigns to get them all classified as mentally defective victims, with no free will of their own once a cheap suited man in sunglasses, a pink feather hat and really good shoes comes up to them and starts talking.

But think about how its acceptable to talk about "creepy men" etc in public or in the media; then imagine the social and career suicide that would follow someone talking about "whoreish women". If you're a hooker today, you can be portrayed as a victim, empowered, or a tough gal doing what ya have to do to get by. Okay, not great, but something to push back against the accusation that dating you is toxic. Now try imagine telling anyone that you pay for sex and like it. I made that mistake once a long time ago, talking with an ex-GF. She called me a rapist and an abuser (though bizarrely would go on to cheat with me on the guy she had cheated on me with when we were together, so she was a bit of a mess) and told all her housemates; after which I learned to keep my goddamn mouth shut. 

[Paris69]

I need clarification on why WGs are the most unreliable people. Especially since the work dictates that they HAVE to be prompt

Believe me, i know... (if u want, read my year old posts if u must).
Most, and i mean MOST, use drugs etc as a means of coping with their job.
They have zero self worth.
They have had very poor early life experiences.
They can actually lead normal lives - but for a VERY short period of time.
They are at heart, lazy. They want money and the best of everything but are totally unable to hold down a 'proper' job/proper hours/with colleagues (colleagues is an issue - as WG's tend to think they know everything)

The best thing i ever did was end my relationship and go back to normal life