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Offline Daffodil

You are daft as much as you are Daff, 'nuff sed.  :hi:

No idea what you mean.

So clear it up for me. You don't have penetrative sex with somebody who has been labelled as HIV positive, go to the GUM clinic and get tested for HIV. You end up being clear and this therefore means she must be HIV negative also? And you call me daft?  :wacko:

Perhaps I should go get tested and if I'm negative that would also prove she's negative? Even though I've never even met her  :rolleyes:

Offline LL

Even if you had penetrative sex with a condom it's extremely unlikely you'd catch HIV from somebody who had HIV.  However, I would be like NK in this scenario (had I seen a girl who was rumoured to be HIV positive) and still worry about it a little - enough to take a break from punting until I got my clean bill of health.  So NK, I'm glad your results came back and you're in the clear mate.  Anyone else who's seen her cannot award themselves a clean bill of health - if they're worried they know what to do.

Offline NightKid

No idea what you mean.

So clear it up for me. You don't have penetrative sex with somebody who has been labelled as HIV positive, go to the GUM clinic and get tested for HIV. You end up being clear and this therefore means she must be HIV negative also? And you call me daft?  :wacko:

Perhaps I should go get tested and if I'm negative that would also prove she's negative? Even though I've never even met her  :rolleyes:

I really wanted to save you the embarrassment with a simple one-liner. But since you insisted ...

How are you not aware that the key point of HIV transmission is through specific bodily fluids such as blood, semen, vaginal secretions, and breast milk when you're supposed to have been in the game longer than moi?
And regarding penetrative sex, I definitely would've had it protected if I'd done it whereas the other sexual acts that I actually did were clearly stated to be unprotected (OWO, implied RO, and CIM) so the risk was obviously higher of me catching anything since there was exchange/contact of 2 out of the 4 aforementioned fluids.

Therefore, if I tested negative after all that ... why is it implausible for her to be HIV negative as well? How's that for my lack of sexual health knowledge?

P.S. Have I introduced my friend to you? This here is logic.  :rolleyes:

Offline punk

well i bang with a rubber on if my results are negative, than it a least proves rubber works. :hi:

night kid.... that is not logic. sorry but it's just not.

Offline NightKid

night kid.... that is not logic. sorry but it's just not.

No offence, but I don't think I'll be able to ever take you seriously until you finally elaborate your point ... if you ever had one in the first place.  :rolleyes:

Offline Daffodil

No offence, but I don't think I'll be able to ever take you seriously until you finally elaborate your point ... if you ever had one in the first place.  :rolleyes:

I imagine his point is the same as mine. You must think that any body contact with a person with HIV will lead you, invariably, to have HIV  :dash:

You can fuck somebody with HIV bareback and not contract HIV. As such, you testing negative does not disprove the claim that the person has HIV. And you are stupid to claim otherwise  :hi:

Offline Tailpipe

No offence, but I don't think I'll be able to ever take you seriously until you finally elaborate your point ... if you ever had one in the first place.  :rolleyes:


Look fuck the HIV you are all clear we are all pleased about that  , its just boring now lets just move on and talk about punting , because that's what we are here for .  :hi:

Offline Daffodil


Look fuck the HIV you are all clear we are all pleased about that  , its just boring now lets just move on and talk about punting , because that's what we are here for .  :hi:

Afraid not tailpipe, if he'd just made the claim that he's negative that's fine.

The problem here is that he is claiming his negative result disproves the claim that she has HIV. This is wrong, demonstrates very poor understanding of sexual health and is potentially dangerous.

Offline Tailpipe

Afraid not tailpipe, if he'd just made the claim that he's negative that's fine.

The problem here is that he is claiming his negative result disproves the claim that she has HIV. This is wrong, demonstrates very poor understanding of sexual health and is potentially dangerous.


Your early daff I leave it with you  :hi: all this talk of HIV is making me not want to eat the pussy
And I like eating the Pussy  :wacko: I have two punts this weekend ,

Ok I don,t have to read posts  :cool:

Offline Daffodil


Your early daff I leave it with you  :hi: all this talk of HIV is making me not want to eat the pussy
And I like eating the Pussy  :wacko: I have two punts this weekend ,

Ok I don,t have to read posts  :cool:

Work for me TP, I wouldn't be up at this rubbish time otherwise.

You go eat some pussy my friend. Have a good day  :drinks:

Offline Tailpipe

Work for me TP, I wouldn't be up at this rubbish time otherwise.

You go eat some pussy my friend. Have a good day  :drinks:


 :D

Offline punk


Your early daff I leave it with you  :hi: all this talk of HIV is making me not want to eat the pussy
And I like eating the Pussy  :wacko: I have two punts this weekend ,

Ok I don,t have to read posts  :cool:

dont forget the veg.

Offline NightKid

I imagine his point is the same as mine. You must think that any body contact with a person with HIV will lead you, invariably, to have HIV  :dash:

You can fuck somebody with HIV bareback and not contract HIV. As such, you testing negative does not disprove the claim that the person has HIV. And you are stupid to claim otherwise  :hi:

The problem here is that he is claiming his negative result disproves the claim that she has HIV. This is wrong, demonstrates very poor understanding of sexual health and is potentially dangerous.

Quote from: United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Can I get HIV from oral sex?

Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex, though it is a less common mode of transmission than other sexual behaviors (anal and vaginal sex). There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

Can HIV be transmitted by kissing?

There are extremely rare cases of HIV being transmitted via deep “French” kissing but in each case, infected blood was exchanged due to bleeding gums or sores in the mouth. Because of this remote risk, it is recommended that individuals who are HIV-infected avoid deep, open-mouth “French” kissing with a non-infected partner, as there is a potential risk of transferring infected blood.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

Also, since you're implying further libel on the girl in question, do you actually believe she's HIV positive or not? Leaving aside the fact that you're ignoring the clear and convincing evidence to the contrary (sensible analysis by niceguyjames & skittish; my test results; and soon punk's test results), and you're obviously doing so just to grind an old axe? I don't think you could ever take any moral high ground from hereon out.  :thumbsdown:

As daft as Daff indeed ... I rest my case.  :hi:

Offline Daffodil

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

Also, since you're implying further libel on the girl in question, do you actually believe she's HIV positive or not? Leaving aside the fact that you're ignoring the clear and convincing evidence to the contrary (sensible analysis by niceguyjames & skittish; my test results; and soon punk's test results), and you're obviously doing so just to grind an old axe? I don't think you could ever take any moral high ground from hereon out.  :thumbsdown:

As daft as Daff indeed ... I rest my case.  :hi:

Nobody is disputing that you can't contract HIV from whatever. What is in dispute is that you seem to think you having a negative test means she must be negative. That is wrong. Can you see the difference?  :dash:

I have no idea regarding this girl. But you being negative does not mean she is negative. Can you not understand that?

Offline NightKid

Nobody is disputing that you can't contract HIV from whatever. What is in dispute is that you seem to think you having a negative test means she must be negative. That is wrong. Can you see the difference?  :dash:

I have no idea regarding this girl. But you being negative does not mean she is negative. Can you not understand that?

Yes, my test is not conclusive that she is negative. But you cannot argue that it is not substantial evidence in favour of it either.
Furthermore, short of doing the nigh impossible - go to Poland and procure a sample of her blood, urine, and vaginal swab - it is effectively the strongest case there is at the moment to contradict the claim. Can you not comprehend that?

Put it another way, if punk's test results come back negative next week as well ... will you finally pipe down and accept that she's obviously not infected with HIV?

Offline Daffodil

Yes, my test is not conclusive that she is negative. But you cannot argue that it is not substantial evidence in favour of it either.
Furthermore, short of doing the nigh impossible - go to Poland and procure a sample of her blood, urine, and vaginal swab - it is effectively the strongest case there is at the moment to contradict the claim. Can you not comprehend that?

Put it another way, if punk's test results come back negative next week as well ... will you finally pipe down and accept that she's obviously not infected with HIV?


No. All that proves is that punk isn't infected  :dash:

I'm not having a go at this girl, I'm having a go at your mate, 'logic'. He must be pissed or something.

You said that your negative test disproves that she might be positive. Disproves is a strong word and your negative test does nothing of the sort. I am not sure what the chance of contracting HIV is from oral sex alone, but let's say it's a conservative 1 in a 1,000. That means if you subsequently test negative it means one of two things:

1) she doesn't have HIV
2) you were one of the 999 who didn't contract.

In terms of proof, it isn't  :hi:

Offline NightKid

I'm not having a go at this girl, I'm having a go at your mate, 'logic'. He must be pissed or something.

Naw ... he just never befriended you all this while, I'd say.  ;)
If you're arguing semantics, then you're foolishly and illogically pointing out that ALL prossies have HIV unless they can prove it themselves that they don't ... even in theory, that's some serious crazy talk. And I've heard of many.  :crazy:

Anyway, I tire of wasting my time trying to talk sense with the plainly unreasonable (or is it obviously vindictive?  :rolleyes:) so I'm ending this with a request to punk.
Let us know if yours come in all clear as well mate, I'm beyond the shadow of a doubt it will.  :drinks:

Offline Daffodil

Naw ... he just never befriended you all this while, I'd say.  ;)
If you're arguing semantics, then you're foolishly and illogically pointing out that ALL prossies have HIV unless they can prove it themselves that they don't ... even in theory, that's some serious crazy talk. And I've heard of many.  :crazy:

Anyway, I tire of wasting my time trying to talk sense with the plainly unreasonable (or is it obviously vindictive?  :rolleyes:) so I'm ending this with a request to punk.
Let us know if yours come in all clear as well mate, I'm beyond the shadow of a doubt it will.  :drinks:

All prossies may have HIV and you or I or punk having a negative test does not change that  :hi:

 You really have made yourself look foolish in this thread  :rolleyes:

Offline NightKid

All prossies may have HIV and you or I or punk having a negative test does not change that  :hi:

You really have made yourself look foolish in this thread  :rolleyes:

Last one folks, I swear.

Isn't the sound of you being full of yourself awesome?  ;)
Daft as Daff, the new proverb in my vocabulary.  :dance:

Offline Daffodil

Last one folks, I swear.

Isn't the sound of you being full of yourself awesome?  ;)
Daft as Daff, the new proverb in my vocabulary.  :dance:

We've heard that before  :rolleyes:

You once said that when you're wrong, you'd admit you're wrong. Clearly not.

Offline punk

Naw ... he just never befriended you all this while, I'd say.  ;)
If you're arguing semantics, then you're foolishly and illogically pointing out that ALL prossies have HIV unless they can prove it themselves that they don't ... even in theory, that's some serious crazy talk. And I've heard of many.  :crazy:

Anyway, I tire of wasting my time trying to talk sense with the plainly unreasonable (or is it obviously vindictive?  :rolleyes:) so I'm ending this with a request to punk.
Let us know if yours come in all clear as well mate, I'm beyond the shadow of a doubt it will.  :drinks:

will do.
come clean with the nurse i saw as it is the same place as usual i go and have seen this lady a good few times, and still did not have to see a doctor.She told me i was a low risk despite what happen and again went through my sexual history,hiv infection through kissing is very very low unless you have cuts,bleeding gums etc, hiv cant deal with salvia,even with gums bleeding that have bled etc it is low.Like wise oral sex  is very very low unless you are the poor cow getting a month full of cum and have bleeding gums.

I say again condoms significantly lowers the risk, people who bb especially with escorts are fucking sick, because i have had relationships with east european girls both civi and escort i am getting hepatitis tested again and that is a greater risk in the above.east europe has must higher rates.

like wise if you get an sti you are at much greater risk of also getting hiv, its a pity that the teens and guys in mid 20's that were there don't grow up. put it this way i waited 20 minutes to see nurse and another 10 minutes to get tested, a lot of them were still waiting to get treatment. :hi:
« Last Edit: September 20, 2013, 02:33:07 PM by punk »

Offline Swagman

It’s clear that NightKid fancies himself as some kind of pseudo-intellectual. What’s also clear is that he is actually just a complete and utter moron.

So, he gets tested for HIV, gets the all clear and concludes from his results that the wg in question too, is clear. This despite the fact that, as far as he’s aware, she herself hasn’t been tested. Not to mention the fact that even if him being clear did mean she was too by proxy (which it doesn’t), it only means that she was negative AT THE TIME OF THEIR ENCOUNTER. She could have acquired anything and everything else since!
I must stress that this is no slight on Nikita - just trying to highlight that there’s no way NightKid or anyone else knows her HIV status. All he can be sure of is that HE is clean. Punk’s status too is of very little relevance to hers. This is basic knowledge that has unsurprisingly escaped Nighty’s grasp.

Nighty’s all-conquering ‘logic’ in this instance is right up there with somehow coming to the conclusion that there is a 50% chance of black punters being a danger to the average wg; simply because one member (who was claiming to be black) was making unsavoury comments about wgs and another member (also black) openly disapproved. One ‘good’ black punter and one ‘bad’ black punter equals 1 in 2 and there you have it! Sterling work from the forum statistician.

The deluded fool is best left ignored.

Offline baltar

That's right you can have bareback sex with someone who is HIV positive and its not a guarantee you will get the disease.

Offline NightKid

That's right you can have bareback sex with someone who is HIV positive and its not a guarantee you will get the disease.

And there's been many reported cases of people having just oral sex, yet somehow managing to catch the hivvies ... so that's neither here nor there.  :hi:

A lot of dumb rambling ...

Please excuse my language; I hope that ban sticks, you tool-obsessed fool.  :thumbsdown:




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