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Offline 8a8ylon

I have read a few posts about parlours being raided, closed etc by the bill.  I was wondering and hopefully it doesn't happen to us, but what do we say to the bill when questions?

I assumes I would say I was paying for her time and not the service, but wouldn't this be a smart ass remark  :thumbsdown: and get us into more trouble with the bill.

So my question is other than giving up our real names, contact details etc how helpful are we met to be?  :angry:

Offline smiths

I have read a few posts about parlours being raided, closed etc by the bill.  I was wondering and hopefully it doesn't happen to us, but what do we say to the bill when questions?

I assumes I would say I was paying for her time and not the service, but wouldn't this be a smart ass remark  :thumbsdown: and get us into more trouble with the bill.

So my question is other than giving up our real names, contact details etc how helpful are we met to be?  :angry:

Unless it was proved a WG was being coerced or was underage a punter isnt breaking the law by punting in a brothel of course. My advice is if asked give your real name, NEVER give a false name as that could get you into real bother. Apart from that refuse to say anything more, its very doubtful the police will do anything more than try to scare you by saying paying for sex is illegal, this is designed to put punters off punting.

Offline talkso

My advice is if asked give your real name, NEVER give a false name as that could get you into real bother. Apart from that refuse to say anything more, its very doubtful the police will do anything more than try to scare you by saying paying for sex is illegal...

so do you say 'i am here to meet her for coffee'?

Offline finn5555

Can you ask for a partial refund  :unknown:

Offline akauya

I have read a few posts about parlours being raided, closed etc by the bill.  I was wondering and hopefully it doesn't happen to us, but what do we say to the bill when questions?

I assumes I would say I was paying for her time and not the service, but wouldn't this be a smart ass remark  :thumbsdown: and get us into more trouble with the bill.

So my question is other than giving up our real names, contact details etc how helpful are we met to be?  :angry:

You can get away by suing the police for forcing "coitus interruptus"  on you. Claim they have scarred you mentally and that you can no longer perform as nature intended. Get tons of compensation and start a Panel-like shagging campaign to get as much pussy as you can before money runs out.

Just joking of course. It's best to follow Smiths advice.

Offline 8a8ylon

Thanks for the info, its always best to ask and get advice as in this game where sex for sale is considered bad  :thumbsdown: yet the MP's seem to do it every which way DOM specially  :diablo:, expenses and get away with it :mad:

Offline Jimmyredcab



I assumes I would say I was paying for her time and not the service, but wouldn't this be a smart ass remark  :thumbsdown: and get us into more trouble with the bill.


I would say "Cheers lads, you have just fucked up my weekly punt"     :rolleyes:

It is not illegal to visit a brothel for sex.    :hi:

Offline smiths

so do you say 'i am here to meet her for coffee'?

My advice as i said is to say nothing apart from giving your name if asked until you have received legal advice. If that pisses the police off bad luck, they will either decide to be awkward or know you are clued up as to your legal rights. They are raiding the brothel to get the owner/manager obviously who are breaking the law.

The problem in theory is Harriet Harridans coercion law is a strict liability offence so not being aware the woman was being coerced isnt a defence, you would have to prove you didnt know which would be impossible. However, no one has heard of an actual conviction for this offence as of yet on punting forums. The point is by making an admission that you were punting just might cause you trouble, far better in my opinion to seek legal advice. The chances of there being any problem are very small in reality, the usual is for the police to take names and tell punters to leave. I am talking about the worst case scenario.

Offline talkso

My advice as i said is to say nothing apart from giving your name if asked until you have received legal advice. If that pisses the police off bad luck, they will either decide to be awkward or know you are clued up as to your legal rights. They are raiding the brothel to get the owner/manager obviously who are breaking the law.

The problem in theory is Harriet Harridans coercion law is a strict liability offence so not being aware the woman was being coerced isnt a defence, you would have to prove you didnt know which would be impossible. However, no one has heard of an actual conviction for this offence as of yet on punting forums. The point is by making an admission that you were punting just might cause you trouble, far better in my opinion to seek legal advice. The chances of there being any problem are very small in reality, the usual is for the police to take names and tell punters to leave. I am talking about the worst case scenario.

So I am standing with my pants down naked and PC Plod says "So what are you doing here?" and I am suppose to reply in that stake of modesty "No comment".  I guess saying that is got to be better then admission.

If I managed to get some clothing on, how about "I saw an ad on the newspaper, I decided to come here for chat", is that going to cut and mustard?

This is why preference is for genuine (non AW) independents where rates might be higher but generally are running the ship all by themselves and their establishment is not a brothel.

Offline smiths

So I am standing with my pants down naked and PC Plod says "So what are you doing here?" and I am suppose to reply in that stake of modesty "No comment".  I guess saying that is got to be better then admission.

If I managed to get some clothing on, how about "I saw an ad on the newspaper, I decided to come here for chat", is that going to cut and mustard?

This is why preference is for genuine (non AW) independents where rates might be higher but generally are running the ship all by themselves and their establishment is not a brothel.

They know you arent in a brothel for a chat of course, the point is you wont know until afer the raid whether a WG could be underage or was being coerced so an admission you were their for sex might be a bad idea. By saying nothing and seeking legal advice you can delay having to say anything until the police inform you whether there is a problem, which as i say is very highly unlikely.

Offline Daffodil

This is why preference is for genuine (non AW) independents where rates might be higher but generally are running the ship all by themselves and their establishment is not a brothel.

My feeling too, but not always foolproof. I once went to visit a prossie who I thought was independent and ended up in a full blown parlour.

Also a lot of these EE prossies work out of the same flat, and often at the same time, thus making it a brothel.

Offline talkso

They know you arent in a brothel for a chat of course, the point is you wont know until afer the raid whether a WG could be underage or was being coerced so an admission you were their for sex might be a bad idea.

+1

Offline 8a8ylon

Also aren't parlours sort of like hotels where the WG is paying for the room out of the fee and the rest is hers.  My WG pays for room, gels, protection both kind, clothes etc and the owner just manages they booking, room etc external stuff.

It not like the owners get 75% and the WG get the rest? So by right the WG is indie?

Offline smiths

Also aren't parlours sort of like hotels where the WG is paying for the room out of the fee and the rest is hers.  My WG pays for room, gels, protection both kind, clothes etc and the owner just manages they booking, room etc external stuff.

It not like the owners get 75% and the WG get the rest? So by right the WG is indie?

Legally its a brothel, and the brothel owner if its a Parlour is the one advertising the WG on the Parlours website/local papers so is not just renting WGs a room to work out of. Such WGs arent Indies.

You could always offer the girl to shine their helmet.

Offline Jimmyredcab



The problem in theory is Harriet Harridans coercion law is a strict liability offence so not being aware the woman was being coerced isnt a defence, you would have to prove you didnt know which would be impossible. However, no one has heard of an actual conviction for this offence as of yet on punting forums.

A very stupid law that is very hard to enforce, that is why no one has heard of a case reaching the courts.

Offline glass eyes

Often nothing happens, owners close the place down and re open again with new names and often are found in the area, with different girls or the same ones with different names
I remember a place in Watford Way got raided,
Im sure it all started over Illegal girls working on the premises,
Often places get done, for money laundry, illegal immigrates, owners not paying tax, or forced workers.
If we Punters happen to be in premises at time of raids, you get asked details eg name, date of birth, address, warned, and told to go.

Offline smiths

Often nothing happens, owners close the place down and re open again with new names and often are found in the area, with different girls or the same ones with different names
I remember a place in Watford Way got raided,
Im sure it all started over Illegal girls working on the premises,
Often places get done, for money laundry, illegal immigrates, owners not paying tax, or forced workers.
If we Punters happen to be in premises at time of raids, you get asked details eg name, date of birth, address, warned, and told to go.

Its rare a brothel is proved to have actually had either illegal immigrants working as WGs or women who were being forced. That might be the reason the police decide to raid perhaps following a tip-off though, or neighbours complaining.

The police dont always give the brothel a closure order in fact, they decide to allow it to stay in operation while investigating the owner under POCA, in fact the raid could be a POCA motivated raid which happened in MK where a couple of Parlours were raided, they were back open shortly afterwards, one still open now.

And this is the other newer development with brothels, POCA, under which the police force raiding a brothel and seeking POCA from its owner personally benefits from the assets seized. Basically the police could let a brothel operate nowadays knowing they can raid it and seek POCA at any time.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2013, 10:00:51 AM by smiths »

Offline smiths

A very stupid law that is very hard to enforce, that is why no one has heard of a case reaching the courts.

Indeed, Harridans intention at the time was far far bigger, to criminalise ALL punters, she ran out of time to get that through so had to settle for Coercion instead. It was designed to scare punters off punting in the first place rather than to prosecute.

If she gets back in in 2015 i am in no doubt her crusade to criminalise punters will continue again. :diablo:

Offline ladyofthemansion

Whatever you do you must not give a statement.

A place I was renting a room from got busted 18 months ago. Although the owner was only renting out rooms she was still done for running a brothel.

My punter panicked and gave a statement. He was then called as a witness. Even a I heard the door crashing in I told him quickly to say nothing and that he was doing nothing wrong.

Luckily she pleaded guilty in the end but my punter was worried about the witness summons he received before that.

The cop gave him his word he would hear no more.

Never trust a cop.

Offline Inoneear

This thread reminds me of the one and only time I got busted by the police whilst visiting a WG. Summer of ’92 my fourth punt, up to that point I had seen the same girl twice at Wembley Sauna and a black girl in a flat around Baker Street. I fancied an Indian, so I went to a place in Kingsbury I had found in the back of the Willesden and Brent Chronicle.

After phoning, getting the address and making the short journey, there was no one in when I got there, but I noticed a little old lady glaring at me from her window as I walked away, thought nothing of it.

I got away from work early the next day and still fancying an Indian I thought I’d try again. Arrived, let in by the maid, shown into the room and a nice looking girl walked in, funds exchanged she asked me to strip and left the room. These were my early days and being a bit shy I stripped to my underpants and waited for her. When she arrived she offered a massage to get things going, I kept underpants on. Lying on my stomach for no more than a minute, although I had been in the place for maybe five minutes three police officers burst in.

The sole female officer took the girl out of the room and one of the other coppers asked me name, date of birth and address, which I answered honestly, I thought ‘oh shit I’m gonna be exposed in the News of the World my life is fucked everyone will know’. I knew nothing about the law back then and assumed I was going to prison.

Then he asked me what I was doing there, how much I’d paid and where I found out about the place. I said I was here for a massage which seemed to satisfy him and £50. As he left the room to my surprise he said I’ll try and get your money back??? I didn’t really care about the money at that stage.

Got dressed and waited about 15 minutes and the copper came back with £40, saying they had kept £10 for the ‘massage’ and I could leave, with words along the lines of don’t let me see you again, I never heard anything from the police or know what happened to the girl or maid.

Feeling like I had just won the lottery I vowed never to punt again, and I didn’t for about six weeks then I found out about an even nicer Indian girl working at Colindale Sauna, at the time I thought I’d stick to Saunas, less chance of a raid or prying eyes but anywhere could be raided especially if neighbours complain.

Offline ladyofthemansion

Am surprised the cops got involved with retrieving money for you but personally I think the girl should have given you the lot back.

If I go in a restaurant and drink the drink then have to walk out because one hour later they haven't brought my food I don't expect to be charged for the drink because on its on its no good.

Offline Rightguardright

From nights out on the piss and constantly getting in trouble with the pigs I say keep your trap shut and 1 word answers.

Offline Inoneear

I was young, naive and must have looked shell shocked, the copper must have felt sorry for me, if such a thing were possible. I didn't even ask about the money.

I would have happily walked out of there with nothing as long as I could walk out.

Offline Jimmyredcab

From nights out on the piss and constantly getting in trouble with the pigs I say keep your trap shut and 1 word answers.

I agree -------------- apart from the "pigs" comment, generally speaking the police do a fantastic job in keeping the public safe.  :hi:


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