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Author Topic: Francesca 22- True Italian/Polish- London- Barbican Carthusian Street SCAM AVOID  (Read 10153 times)


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Offline RedAlertTourist

Hello people

As my first post I wanted forewarn punters of a known scammer from AW who charged me £50 for Extras she doesn't provide and cut our 2 hour meeting by 20 minutes.

Her name is Francesca 22 (while her profile is still the same she changes her profile picture daily and username weekly. her aka are Italia 22, #HOT#, Kisses) Here is her link https://www.adultwork.com/859455 or https://www.adultwork.com/italia%5F22

However to find (or avoid her) on the adultwork website when her username changes click search members. Select female, escorts, region (select London) and in specific words (bottom left) write "polish". Her profile starts with "True Polish/Italian Lady Francesca" on the left hand side of search results about the 5th one down.

Prior to booking her, her rates were
£110 per hour
£200 for 2 hours.

Her service list stated A Levels- A Levels (at discretion) and CIM. No where did it state extras on her profile page. However I saw on her feedback profile (prior to her deleting/censoring/blocking it) that she had 3 Negative Field Rapports that never got published (but now she magically only has 1 dispute and 35 Positive reviews?) and that in her dispute she said A levels are available for £30 Extra and CIM is £20 also.

Via email I booked Francesca. I initially enquired if there were Extras involved in the bookings for CIM A levels- no reply. I then e-mailed stating I would be willing to pay £50 for CIM and A levels included during a standard 2 hour booking (I then get an e-mail from "Francesca" stating that this is fine).
So I booked her for 2 hours from 14:00 - 16:00. One hour for foreplay/talking/massage/tease/lapdancing and intercourse. Followed by a 2nd hour to "work in" A levels going in slowly.

Upon arriving at the W/G flat in Carthusian Street which is a first left out of Barbican Undetground Station just past the TESCO metro shop above the Vecchio Parioli Italian Ristorante I was let in by a very grumpy looking old woman in stockings who looked me up and down and said "Francesca will be with you shortly". About 3 other Escorts passed me in the same hall and it looked like an overcrowded flat.

When Francesca entered the room she was stunning looking no doubt definately had Polish girl curves and a fine Italian arse, and defined thighs and calves etc.
But she kept ferrying back between one room and another trying to get me to shorten the booking to hour at £250 and she'd thrown another girl in (unfortuntely the other girls in the flat weren't up to my usual standards. So I politely declined. To add insult to injury Francesca had no idea that I requested A levels or CIM so therefore she isn't the one who does her e-mails. Francesca demanded £250 for the 2 hours "if I wanted the extras". Now the first 40 minutes were great a mixture of grinding lapdance, O.W.O, foreplay, giving and recieving massage and some hard penetration protect in a sort of PSE/GFE mixture. However when I said "how much time do you need to work in A levels" around the 40 minute mark she said "A levels? No I don't think so. You're too big". Now being niave I didn't know what to do at this point because I thought you can't negotiate mid punt as at that point you're only having sex as "consenting adults". However to get my moneys worth I carried on recieving O.W.O/penetration protected etc. At around 15:20 Francesca asked why I hadn't come yet and said she "needed to be somewhere soon". I ignored this as I had 40 minutes left with her. So I got an indepth massage and we showered together afterwards (that was a bonus I guess). Even then I still had 20 minutes not honoured.


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Offline softlad

Seems like a good argument for paying after the service........
If only!  :(

Offline RedAlertTourist

Also I thought I'd mention she was the one who insisted I leave at 15:40 (with 20 minutes of punt left).

She did offer a "discount" on a future punt but from what I hear this is a common SCAM with this particular Escort/Barbican Flat.

BTW- I am disgusted by the W/G at auto-censored who have sided with this W/G in question stating (ah well you win some you lose some) WTF I got scammed out of £80 for nothing!

My advice is to keep it to an hour for your first visit for any Escort (good feedback or not).
On your second visit pay for the basic punt upfront (but keep the Extras in a seperate envelope to "tip" her for any Extras when the punt is over). DO NOT pay upfront thinking it will result in gaurenteed extras- because trust me you won't.

Also the reason I mention the Flat location (but not the address) is because there were many other W/Gs at the same flat so again be careful if you get a punt for Carthusian Street Barbican above the Vecchio Parioli Italian Ristorante because the Madam/Female PIMP will rip you off.

As for Francesca here are her stats if she changes or closes her profile

The lady in questions name changes on a weekly basis- so therefore you'll have to be extra careful.

Here's her stats

Polish/Italian half cast.
Dark Brunette/Black Hair
5 Foot 7
34" B Natural
Dress Size 8
Advertises her age as 22

Operates close to Barbican Underground Station

Her names aliases are Francesca_22, Italia_22, ~HOT~, Kisses and various others on the other site (my guess is she changes her names/profile pictures regularly to avoid being recognised but her profile stays the same).

To find (aor void her) when searching on "the other site"- when searching profiles- select females, escorts, region London, and in specific words type "polish". It brings up a list hers starts with "TRUE POLISH/ITALIAN LADY- FRANCESCHA

Offline RedAlertTourist

I thought I'd also mention that this Escort is on the "no reports" list at both auto-censored as well as hiding her feedback on adultwork.com.

Its been verified- SCAM!

Sorry to hear you have been duped, a similar thing goes on in my home town and it's frustrating to say the least, this is why I always book the minimum time on a first time meet, if she turns out great I'll be back for a couple of hours or whatever.

Offline Stiltskin

BTW- I am disgusted by the W/G at auto-censored who have sided with this W/G in question stating (ah well you win some you lose some) WTF I got scammed out of £80 for nothing!

Typical of the attitude of some ladies on there.

Offline RedAlertTourist

UPDATE

Once again "Francesca" has changed her name this time to VICTORIA- despite the stats and profile staying the same www.adultwork.com/859455. Also her private pictures have dis-appeared altogether (which is a shame because you could see what a true Polish/Italian hottie she was/is via digital photographs complete with face pictures).

I think my expose at http://www.auto-censored.com/forum/index.php?/topic/14525-did-i-get-scammed-by-this-escort-what-to-do-next/page__st__50 might have had something to do with this. But the search criteria/profile number link is still the same at adultwork.


I've also come to a conclusion about how this Barbican Flat/Carthusian Street SCAM works. Francesca/VICTORIAs profile is used to bait Men from adultwork with hot pictures, a seemingly full service list (which she doesn't provide A levels or CIM but charges hidden extras- as in my case £50 even though there were complaints Francesca didn't even do that even though being charged extra).

Her 2 hour bookings are always cut short for the following reason. I've just realised that I wasn't the only one where Francesca/VICTORIA declined the Extras but offered to throw in another girl but shorten the booking to one hour. Of course most guys would decline because (quite rightfully) the other girl may not be as Hot (and trust me the other girls at that flat aren't Polish/Italian hotties and aren't hotlinked toher profile for a good reason. Mingers if I am being honest).
So you end up paying £110 for what you came for BUT are lumped with a mediocre 2nd girl which is deducated from the extra you paid for the extra hour (and £50 Extras if you're unlucky).
If you don't take up an this 2nd girl offer you are offered a discount at a later date.....


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Offline RedAlertTourist

.....however I just recieved the following e-mail regarding this "discount".

"You can see me for 1 hour (£110) no Extras!. Call me when you come!"

THAT ISN'T A DISCOUNT! AND SHE DOESN'T PROVIDE THE "EXTRAS" ANYWAYS.

Like I said guys she is a full on "bait and switch" SCAM. Use a hottie Alpha Female to lure guys, take the Money for a full two hour booking with Extras- then shorten the booking to one hour due to "a party she needs to get ready for" and thrown in some Minger substitute to soak up the extras you pay.

If the client refuses she cuts short the 2 hours anyways, keeps his Money with a false promise of a Discount at a later date.

Offline Stiltskin

I noticed this girl's profile a few weeks ago and the girl they show now is not the same girl, not even close. Did you report the profile to Adultwork? It's meant to be a verified profile. I can't see how that works when they keep changing the girl.

By the way, that little street must get a bit busy with punters, as I know of at least one other flat along there

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience. I saw Francesca a couple of times last summer for 1hr punts and she was fine - OWO included, not sure about A (can't remember but don't think I asked for it) and certainly not amclock-watcher. Agree that the other girls there were plain at best though !!

Offline RedAlertTourist

I noticed this girl's profile a few weeks ago and the girl they show now is not the same girl, not even close. Did you report the profile to Adultwork? It's meant to be a verified profile. I can't see how that works when they keep changing the girl.

By the way, that little street must get a bit busy with punters, as I know of at least one other flat along there

Its difficult to tell. I was intially drawn to her profile because of the Polish search results and the fact she is half Italian was a bonus as well.

Meeting her in person was serial she did look slightly different in person BUT definately was the "hawt Polish/Italian girl" in the original digital camera photos with her unique face showing.
The new profile pic could still be her (she is quite slim and curvy) and her derriere photo is definately her (is she a part time porn star now judging from the copyright watermark?).

Personally speaking the original photos looked better but because I have exposed both her profile and location on auto-censored (not to mention I bet she has legions of disgruntled customers who were over charged extras/had bookings shortened and were given the crappy "two girl service"/"later discount" offer).

Overall though there is no way of me verifying her and I can't report the profile as there is no option.

Offline RedAlertTourist

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience. I saw Francesca a couple of times last summer for 1hr punts and she was fine - OWO included, not sure about A (can't remember but don't think I asked for it) and certainly not amclock-watcher. Agree that the other girls there were plain at best though !!

Ok I am going to be honest.

Francesca was awesome for the first hour and (as insane as this may sound) I was thinking of booking her again for only an hour and making her my regular.

I did get an awesome grinding lapdance, the best O.W.O of my life, Porn Star (protected) sex, a good handjob, oil massage, GFE and other services she doesn't list.

But I had to Flag up the SCAM going on at that Flat (because it has a reputation as being a bit of a production line) and using common sense I saw through the scheme of throwing in mediocre girls to avoid lengthy bookings or A levels.

Like fisherofsouls said book her for 1 hour only, do not expect A levels, do not be pressured into going longer AND DO NOT e-mail questions asking "is so-so and so true about X,Y,Z" because she/teh flat will just lie.

Online Marmalade

Quote
I can't report the profile as there is no option.
Click 'Authentic Member'
Click 'Report them to us here'
Click 'Some other breach'
May not be acted on, but you can at least report it.
Regards, Marm.



Offline Strawberry

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Typical of the attitude of some ladies on there.

If the OP had written such a straight to the point report over on there, I would have surely stood up for him. Unfortunately his post wasn't as succinct as this, was very rambly and unclear as to what had gone on, chopping, changing and very vague.

Like I say from this report it is very clear he was severely short-changed.

Online Marmalade

BTW- I am disgusted by the W/G at auto-censored who have sided with this W/G in question stating (ah well you win some you lose some) WTF I got scammed out of £80 for nothing!

It's true of course - you do win some lose some.

But the difference on UKPunting is that, putting the punter first, we are interested in how the punter can
win a few more and lose a lot less.

Offline Strawberry

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I am not disputing the punter was ripped off, however I've just noticed the version I read on another site, the place where "WGs sided with this WG" the OP says he came several times.....but in this report he doesn't mention this, saying the girl asked why he hadn't come yet.


Offline justalookin

The working girls AND the fellow punters have agreed what a dick you have been.

Offline James999

Perhaps these warnings would be better placed in a male only section, if someone warns other clients it is a warning, the views of other prostitutes are of no value to the topic, and may put other posters off posting warnings.

Online Marmalade

Perhaps these warnings would be better placed in a male only section, if someone warns other clients it is a warning, the views of other prostitutes are of no value to the topic, and may put other posters off posting warnings.
The ladies here deserve more credit than you give them. But WGs have no influence on policy. You do seem to have an awful lot of ideas about how to run the site for the short time you've been on it James. How about getting to know it first?

Offline Strawberry

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I was actually supporting the guy and thus kicking the theory that WGs only defend each other, but then merely asking which version was true since there have been discrepencies?Something a male poster would ask if he'd seen both accounts too.

Offline James999

The ladies here deserve more credit than you give them. But WGs have no influence on policy. You do seem to have an awful lot of ideas about how to run the site for the short time you've been on it James. How about getting to know it first?

Nothing wrong with ideas, it is up to Admin if they follow them or not, Don't be frightened of change, if a board doesn't evolve it withers.

Offline James999

I was actually supporting the guy and thus kicking the theory that WGs only defend each other, but then merely asking which version was true since there have been discrepencies?Something a male poster would ask if he'd seen both accounts too.

Strawberry, my comment was a generic one that i feel warnings are better kept in private, it was not anything you said, just my view.

Offline RedAlertTourist

UPDATE 01/02/2011

Its seems Francesca has shut up shop completely now as her profile has disappeared from the adultwork website altogether. Even with the search criteria shes still not there.

Funny because it was active only this morning and I had spoken over the phone with her directly about a possible meet/follow up within 2 weeks for an hour session one on one.

I asked if she had read "any feedback" about herself to which she said "no" but when I asked why her private gallery was no longer available she sighed "I HAD TO take that down".

Feeling a bit guilty right now  :(

But at the same time that "mediocre 2nd girl scam" was just  :dash:

Offline softlad

Funny because it was active only this morning and I had spoken over the phone with her directly about a possible meet/follow up within 2 weeks for an hour session one on one.

You're kidding... right ?
 
Feeling a bit guilty right now  :(

You don't say !

Offline Strawberry

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Nothing wrong with ideas, it is up to Admin if they follow them or not, Don't be frightened of change, if a board doesn't evolve it withers.

I actually find them useful myself - I get to hear of the scams guys fall victim to so can empathise/understand their concerns when booking me, plus I sometimes get asked to recommend others and so know which to avoid doing so with.




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