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Author Topic: Is the POSITIVE rating "slightly" flawed for future punts??  (Read 3922 times)

Offline Ted Bear

Now I know a positive FR is good for sharing with fellow punters about good WG but on a open forum with so many lurkers that said WG then becomes EXTREMELY POPULAR and consequently rises her prices maybe as a result of the positive FR..

So my question is - was that Positive FR beneficial in the long run for punters for future punts??

Does anyone have any thought how we can counteract this chain reaction?

Thought1 - was to have a positive section viewable only to ESTABLISHED UKP members who contribute - but this maybe too much work for administrators.

Thought2 - More UKP member controlled, where members write a positive FR as normal with price/location/service/looks etc..BUT WITHOUT the WG details And instead the full FR with WG details is PM'd via a friend list and they can then comment on open forum (hopefully) not disclosing the WG details and if any other UKP member who is not on the friend list can put in a request on the open forum for WG details and those who know can share WG details at their discretion if they feel that UKP member is worthy :lol:

Hopefully this would help counteract this POSITIVE CHAIN REACTION of WG's UPPING their prices which in the end is not favouring any punters overall.

Anyway these are just thoughts on how to tackle this dilemma which I am recently seeing is becoming a trend with WGs with Positive FR on UKP..

Anyway I would love to know other member thoughts of agreement, disagreement or any other solutions etc..

NOTE ~ this is an open discussion no need to request permission to contribute :lol: :D :lol:

Offline Festisio

I think that would be a massive ball ache.

The number of views a prossie gets on AW is huge, figures like 70,000 views for someone who has been on aw for 11 months.

Compare that to a review on here, the average number is probably in the hundreds.

So does a positive UK punting review guarantee a sufficient number of new punters that the prossie will start charging more?

Maybe, but probably fewer than have been directly told to up their prices...

I found this forum when googling the username of someone I saw on AW as I wanted to see if there were reports on them.  That might be how many members sign up so I think it would be a bad move to get rid of it.

Offline Jimmyredcab



So does a positive UK punting review guarantee a sufficient number of new punters that the prossie will start charging more?


Yes, in some cases it can.    :thumbsdown:

Offline CoolTiger

Thought2 - More UKP member controlled, where members write a positive FR as normal with price/location/service/looks etc..BUT WITHOUT the WG details And instead the full FR with WG details is PM'd via a friend list and they can then comment on open forum (hopefully) not disclosing the WG details and if any other UKP member who is not on the friend list can put in a request on the open forum for WG details and those who know can share WG details at their discretion if they feel that UKP member is worthy :lol:


NOTE ~ this is an open discussion no need to request permission to contribute :lol: :D :lol:


Permission to speak, sir??

Can you imagine... A Positive review posted on here, followed by a few hundred PM requests fro details of the profile.
Some still coming through a few months after the initial review!!
 

Offline Jimmyredcab


Can you imagine... A Positive review posted on here, followed by a few hundred PM requests fro details of the profile.
Some still coming through a few months after the initial review!!

Exactly ----------------- it's a non starter.    :thumbsdown:

Offline BeesKnees

Ted Bear has a point though. As forum for punters literally anyone can view the material created to help us, but its also inadvertently helping the unsavoury types (pimps and touts)  as well as wgs.

Perhaps restrict the reviews section to punters with over 100 posts or something? The newbies can contribute to the info and other areas of the forum before getting access

Offline CoolTiger

Ted Bear has a point though. As forum for punters literally anyone can view the material created to help us, but its also inadvertently helping the unsavoury types (pimps and touts)  as well as wgs.

Perhaps restrict the reviews section to punters with over 100 posts or something? The newbies can contribute to the info and other areas of the forum before getting access

Whilst your suggestion of 100 posts would be more manageable form an admin point of view, I can see loads of posts re useless points, drivels, etc in order to get to the magical figure of 100.

(Edit)  These would require close monitoring by the admin/mods.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2013, 12:00:38 AM by CoolTiger »

Offline Rightguardright

Maybe when a review is posted state the price, if she puts it up then just say your not having it and ditch her. She'll soon learn.

Offline CoolTiger

Yes, in some cases it can.    :thumbsdown:

In some cases the Punters have suggested to the WGs to charge more.


CT Grabs his coat :D

Offline LL

I vote that we lose the positive / negative rating altogether.  Then people would have to read the whole review rather than just scanning the review topics and looking for positive ratings.  Think about what happens to all the negative reviews.  I certainly don't bother reading them - do you?  I may make a mental note of the WG's name next to it, but I certainly won't open it.  And that's a shame because actually, the reviewer might have just had a dispute with the girl, or there may have been a simple misunderstanding over a booking, or perhaps, for example, the girl didn't take the lead in sex (but some people prefer it if they don't!).

Also, whenever I've left a positive review I've left myself open to receive a load of abuse for it.  Since I will always try to write a balanced and unbiased review, listing the good points and the bad - some will focus on just the bad points and say something as predictable as, "how the fuck can you justify giving her a positive!?".

So let me write a balanced review with no rating please.  Surely the reader isn't actually interested in whether it was a positive experience for me or not.  Why would they?  Ultimately what the reader wants to establish (and this is the whole point of this place I think), is this: if they were to visit the girl being reviewed, would they be likely to have an experience that they would consider positive themselves.  Only the reader can answer this as we all have different preferences, tolerances and priorities.

In some cases the Punters have suggested to the WGs to charge more.


CT Grabs his coat :D

CT good point, and I created a thread when I called such a punter (I don't believe he is a member of UKP!) a jerk!!

Also, when I created the thread about over the hill prossies, it was because I noticed that the ones increasing their prices fitted a certain profile. They've usually been in the business for 5 or more years, have had a fair bit of plastic surgery, have a bad arrogant attitude and a huge fluffy following. These prossies put up their prices as they know the adoring fluffies will still pay the increased prices.

To be honest, I really don't think members of this forum go for these types of prossies, and most on here a sensible enough to tell the them to get lost if they try to increase the price. At the end of the day, market forces will always dictate the price.

Not sure how you could police restricted access to the reviews section, or what benefit that would have to the members of UKP, be they new or established ones.

LL, I do actually read the negative reviews, for the very reasons you give. As it could simply be that the punter/prossie didn't click or get/offer the services wanted.

I don't think anyone that posts a negative or positive review should ever be criticized, as long as they are giving an honest opinion about their experience. That's what this forum is all about, an honest (and civilized) exchange of views by punters.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2013, 12:26:46 AM by BaddaBanger »

Offline smiths

Now I know a positive FR is good for sharing with fellow punters about good WG but on a open forum with so many lurkers that said WG then becomes EXTREMELY POPULAR and consequently rises her prices maybe as a result of the positive FR..

So my question is - was that Positive FR beneficial in the long run for punters for future punts??

Does anyone have any thought how we can counteract this chain reaction?

Thought1 - was to have a positive section viewable only to ESTABLISHED UKP members who contribute - but this maybe too much work for administrators.

Thought2 - More UKP member controlled, where members write a positive FR as normal with price/location/service/looks etc..BUT WITHOUT the WG details And instead the full FR with WG details is PM'd via a friend list and they can then comment on open forum (hopefully) not disclosing the WG details and if any other UKP member who is not on the friend list can put in a request on the open forum for WG details and those who know can share WG details at their discretion if they feel that UKP member is worthy :lol:

Hopefully this would help counteract this POSITIVE CHAIN REACTION of WG's UPPING their prices which in the end is not favouring any punters overall.

Anyway these are just thoughts on how to tackle this dilemma which I am recently seeing is becoming a trend with WGs with Positive FR on UKP..

Anyway I would love to know other member thoughts of agreement, disagreement or any other solutions etc..

NOTE ~ this is an open discussion no need to request permission to contribute :lol: :D :lol:

This comes down to whether an individual punter decides to share his experience/s with others on the open forum or not. Unless the punter gets something in return from the SP in exchange for a positive review which is what the Divines offered some punters on auto-censored, he isnt personally benefiting of course. I have experienced WGs increasing their prices after i and others did a positive FR and/or them becoming much harder to book a number of times over the years.

Some posters pretend to be punters or are in some SPs pockets so your PM idea wouldnt work as they would get included anyway.

So reviews have an up and a possible down side in my experience, only the individual genuine punter can decide if he wishes to do reviews or not, share by PM only or only with punters he personally knows, thats his business.

A review based system will always have the possible consequence of the SP benefiting from the exposure and deciding to increase their rate even if only for a short time to cash in. No way round that on a free forum in my opinion.

Offline NightKid

To keep it simple, you can try but it probably won't work. The strength of UKP lies in its openness and honesty, so to cordon off the reviews and alienate the readership is just counter-productive and, ultimately, self-defeating.

I loathe price increments of any form so if a pro$$ie decides to exploit the advantage by upping her prices, I'll simply not see her until she brings it down to what I deem acceptable. It's the same with other businesses that provide the goods and services you consume, except there's no consumer rights/protection in this line. So, vote with your wallet chaps and choose principles over pragmatism.  :hi:

Offline Lz-129

Why not just post her rates at he time of review in the actual review itself instead of just relying on just the AW link in which she can obviously change her rates over time without punters knowing

That way you can read the review an see if the rates have changed whether its higher or even possibly lower

Offline hornylad

I have done less than 100 posts but do read the reviews section.
I have also written a review on one prossie. If I hadn't been able to read the reviews there is no way I would have written one to help others when I could not benefit from their knowledge.

Maybe you should only be able to read reviews once you have written one?
Although I see potential pit falls here too.

Also - it would be useful to be able to leave a neutral review. Not all punts fit neatly into poitive or negative.

Now I know a positive FR is good for sharing with fellow punters about good WG but on a open forum with so many lurkers that said WG then becomes EXTREMELY POPULAR and consequently rises her prices maybe as a result of the positive FR..

So my question is - was that Positive FR beneficial in the long run for punters for future punts??

Does anyone have any thought how we can counteract this chain reaction?

Thought1 - was to have a positive section viewable only to ESTABLISHED UKP members who contribute - but this maybe too much work for administrators.

Thought2 - More UKP member controlled, where members write a positive FR as normal with price/location/service/looks etc..BUT WITHOUT the WG details And instead the full FR with WG details is PM'd via a friend list and they can then comment on open forum (hopefully) not disclosing the WG details and if any other UKP member who is not on the friend list can put in a request on the open forum for WG details and those who know can share WG details at their discretion if they feel that UKP member is worthy :lol:

Hopefully this would help counteract this POSITIVE CHAIN REACTION of WG's UPPING their prices which in the end is not favouring any punters overall.

Anyway these are just thoughts on how to tackle this dilemma which I am recently seeing is becoming a trend with WGs with Positive FR on UKP..

Anyway I would love to know other member thoughts of agreement, disagreement or any other solutions etc..

NOTE ~ this is an open discussion no need to request permission to contribute :lol: :D :lol:

Is this a forum for punters or ukp members only  :hi:


Offline Jimmyredcab

Is this a forum for punters or ukp members only  :hi:

Reviews can be read on Adultwork and auto-censored by the general public, I don't see any reason why UKP should be any different.  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

I have experienced WGs increasing their prices after i and others did a positive FR and/or them becoming much harder to book a number of times over the years.


Same here.   :hi:
I remember when I did a positive review on Seductive Scarlett (now retired), she told me her phone was red hot for a week.

Offline Strawberry

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Same here.   :hi:
I remember when I did a positive review on Seductive Scarlett (now retired), she told me her phone was red hot for a week.

Reviews do work like this however the enquiries from that in particular will tail off after a while. One or even a series of reviews doesn't result in a rush of bookings for ever - other things start to take over, and of course reviews for other ladies pop up.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Reviews do work like this however the enquiries from that in particular will tail off after a while. One or even a series of reviews doesn't result in a rush of bookings for ever - other things start to take over, and of course reviews for other ladies pop up.

Yes, of course that is true -------------------- however it could result in the girl getting a few regular clients who may never have known about her.   :hi:

Offline smiths

Same here.   :hi:
I remember when I did a positive review on Seductive Scarlett (now retired), she told me her phone was red hot for a week.

Yes i recall, her prices went up and down as much as her knickers though from then onwards. :hi:

Offline smiths

Reviews do work like this however the enquiries from that in particular will tail off after a while. One or even a series of reviews doesn't result in a rush of bookings for ever - other things start to take over, and of course reviews for other ladies pop up.

Indeed, its forum/punting site darling syndrome, i dont blame a WG for cashing in while she knows she can, but it hasnt helped me personally on ocassion, which is why i posted what i did in my first post on this thread. :hi:

Offline potato


Makes me wonder whether reviews should be kept to the accuracy of her profile - did she look like her pictures, was her age and size about right, was she friendly and co-operative, was her enjoys list accurate, were there any additional charges.  I know that would be a bit boring as a review but it would stop hyping some girls and encouraging them to up their prices.  Most of the more flowery comments on reviews are subjective anyway - it depends on so many things - attitude of punter for instance, to how the girl reacts and the service given.

Does the UKP review have that much sway anyway?  Probably not on its own in reality.  AW hit rate is going to be far higher so the feedback on there is probably going to have much more of an effect. To the connoisseurs  of  punting though, the UKP feedback is likely to be more accurate in respect that it will reinforce the AW feedback or discredit it.   At the end of the day, feedback is so subjective that I take it all with a pinch of salt. I want to know whether the girls profile is accurate and that she is sane - the rest is up to me.


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