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Offline puntingpumping1920

 I saw this SP page: External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only, and I noticed she has changed her booking process for security purposes. To make a booking you need A/W feedback or if you don't pay a deposit.
 
Why don't professional whores like herself employ security/ admin on pro-rata basis than moaning about time-wasters and security issues
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becuase pimps are scum and leeches.

Offline puntingpumping1920

becuase pimps are scum and leeches.

 
The employee would not be a pimp, as a pimp is someone who controls the prostitute and finds customers for them. The employee will be there to help the booking process and the security
« Last Edit: August 24, 2017, 09:30:06 pm by puntingpumping1920 »
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Offline lewisjones23

dont like expenses, even if it would make them more efficient and earn more

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The employee would not be a pimp, as a pimp is someone who controls the prostitute

Most pimps claim they are employed by the prossie, you should hear the crap they spout

As soon as they started they would be a pimp IMO.

anyway i want as few involved in my booking as possible no security or random blabber mouth knowing my details.

Are you thinking of becoming an admin/security person ?

Offline smiths

I saw this SP page: External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only, and I noticed she has changed her booking process for security purposes. To make a booking you need A/W feedback or if you don't pay a deposit.
 
Why don't professional whores like herself employ security/ admin on pro-rata basis than moaning about time-wasters and security issues

Some do have minders, often the pimp or partner who can also be the pimp. Being too tight to is presumably why some don't employ security. I note this WG wants a 30% deposit so £60 for a £200 an hour booking, not in this lifetime would I pay a WG a deposit under any circumstances of any amount. The day I need feedback to pay a WG for sex is the day I pack it in, those that require it don't get my business.

Offline Bogof60

Never actually seen security or pimp but I am sure that they have been near sometimes.
Did one SP whose husband showed me in
Bit daunting at first but then it felt quite dirty banging his wife while he was in the other room
Oops that post is a bit contradictory
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Offline puntingpumping1920

dont like expenses, even if it would make them more efficient and earn more

 
Yeah we call that specialization it would make the whole system more efficient
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Offline puntingpumping1920

Most pimps claim they are employed by the prossie, you should hear the crap they spout

As soon as they started they would be a pimp IMO.

anyway i want as few involved in my booking as possible no security or random blabber mouth knowing my details.

Are you thinking of becoming an admin/security person ?

 
I was talking about employed admin/ security that can be hired/fired....not someone that controls her
 
Not thinking about becoming an administrator/ security official
 
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Offline puntingpumping1920

Some do have minders, often the pimp or partner who can also be the pimp. Being too tight to is presumably why some don't employ security. I note this WG wants a 30% deposit so £60 for a £200 an hour booking, not in this lifetime would I pay a WG a deposit under any circumstances of any amount. The day I need feedback to pay a WG for sex is the day I pack it in, those that require it don't get my business.

 
Sometimes you have to spend money to get money. 
 
Asking for a deposit will scare customers off, on the other hand, you could employ admin/ security which will make her operation more efficient. 
 
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I was talking about employed admin/ security that can be hired/fired....not someone that controls her
 
Not thinking about becoming an administrator/ security official

this is what agencies claim to offer but don't, just more shit to drive prices up IMO.

Most punters want comms with the wg and do as far as i know and how other than this case do you know many don't already have security in place?  Fact is unless involved we don't know what goes on in the BG.

Add to the mix prossies lying, sound like this one is a scammer trying to use sympathy to get deposits out of mugs.

as for then person doing it they would likely cover more than one and that creates a whole new set of problems.

Offline puntingpumping1920

this is what agencies claim to offer but don't, just more shit to drive prices up IMO.

Most punters want comms with the wg and do as far as i know and how other than this case do you know many don't already have security in place?  Fact is unless involved we don't know what goes on in the BG.

Add to the mix prossies lying, sound like this one is a scammer trying to use sympathy to get deposits out of mugs.

as for then person doing it they would likely cover more than one and that creates a whole new set of problems.

 
Yeah agencies lie, but I was talking about independent whores that could hire/fire someone that handles her booking process and sits in another room for her security.
 
She could be scammer, but there are similar WGs with good feedback on UKP that require A/W feedback to make a booking due to security concerns
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Yeah agencies lie, but I was talking about independent whores that could hire/fire someone that handles her booking process and sits in another room for her security.
 
She could be scammer, but there are similar WGs with good feedback on UKP that require A/W feedback to make a booking due to security concerns

I think things should stay as they are and we don't need to encourage more to put their prices up personally.

would make a good post on UKE if you want to understand why they don't.

Offline puntingpumping1920

I think things should stay as they are and we don't need to encourage more to put their prices up personally.

would make a good post on UKE if you want to understand why they don't.

 
For a full-time worker there is no need to increase prices, as its a pro-rota basis you could pay them minimum wage for a couple hours of work.
 
I think it would help with double booking and other issues.

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For a full-time worker there is no need to increase prices, as its a pro-rota basis you could pay them minimum wage for a couple hours of work.
 
I think it would help with double booking and other issues.

so on minimum wage would be the most unprofessional person for the job, leading to shit for the punter, pay peanuts get monkeys.

i think it will cause many other issues, the same issues that girls with maids already have but amplified because they employed someone on minimum wage.

Offline con-a-ser

The other issue is people employed are making a financial game & comes under proceeds of crime

The you get into the more than one girl / receptionist  etc in the legal mind field that is prostetution

Offline puntingpumping1920

so on minimum wage would be the most unprofessional person for the job, leading to shit for the punter, pay peanuts get monkeys.

i think it will cause many other issues, the same issues that girls with maids already have but amplified because they employed someone on minimum wage.

 
I don't agree with that statement. I believe there is no correlation that low wage workers equals less professional. (Unless you can show a published report from a reputable source) 
 
I think there are many young adults that wouldn't mind an additional job that requires them to work few hours.
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Offline puntingpumping1920

The other issue is people employed are making a financial game & comes under proceeds of crime

The you get into the more than one girl / receptionist  etc in the legal mind field that is prostetution

 
Very true, I just looked it up .
 
They would be breaking the law if they employ admin/ security according to, Sexual Offences Act 2003, Section 53.
 
Thanks con-a-ser.
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I don't agree with that statement. I believe there is no correlation that low wage workers equals less professional. (Unless you can show a published report from a reputable source) 
 
I think there are many young adults that wouldn't mind an additional job that requires them to work few hours.

  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well i do.
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Can you provide reports that this will help?  No thought not ?

James999

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Pro$$ies get a mentality where they don't like to pay for anything, they don't pay tax, advertising or rent so why should they pay staff  :music:

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The other issue is people employed are making a financial game & comes under proceeds of crime

Bollocks  :hi:

Offline Placebo88

If more than one escort is working from the same place they can help one another out. Groups used maids for this, and those without contacts can look into agencies.

I do not know who or how you think independent escorts are meant to find someone to do this work for them. Who will bother with 2 hours a week at minimum wage. Doesn't make sense discretion wise or from the employees point of view.
And what admin duties are you on about. Going through messages to sort what is worth a reply, actually replying. They'd have to know exactly how the escort worked, her full timetable, screening processes etc. A lot to ask for 2 hours at minimum pay. Agencies do it on mass and charge a percentage. An employee seeing how low their cut is compared to the gross will ask for more.

Phone calls and texts dont come in convenient two hour bursts, they happen whenever, when escorts are in bookings.

I told an escort notoriously bad with comms to get her useless layabout boyfriend to help out, get her organized. The situation was right for that, apart from phone answering. Most independents won't have such a convenient and trustworthy go to.

Offline puntingpumping1920

  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well i do.
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Can you provide reports that this will help?  No thought not ?
   
 
 
This paper looked at the question, "Do Higher Salaries Lead to Higher Performance" and concluded it had zero to small impact 
 
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Maybe you can give feedback on the academic paper
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Offline Placebo88

   
 
 
This paper looked at the question, "Do Higher Salaries Lead to Higher Performance" and concluded it had zero to small impact 
 
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Maybe you can give feedback on the academic paper
Where are escorts supposed to advertise this lucrative opportunity of 2 hours at week on minimum pay. The local rag. Or one of their friends kids might like a earn extra pocket money, convenient if they only live next door. I can see a load of highly professional applicants queueing for such a tempter.

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Offline puntingpumping1920

Where are escorts supposed to advertise this lucrative opportunity of 2 hours at week on minimum pay. The local rag. Or one of their friends kids might like a earn extra pocket money, convenient if they only live next door. I can see a load of highly professional applicants queueing for such a tempter.
 
 
I found the answer to my question. They would be breaking the law if they employ admin/ security according to Sexual Offences Act 2003, Section 53.
 
I'm not sure where you are from, but in London cost of living is high.
 
I can find someone to do security for me for few hours of pay in London. If you don't believe me we can wager that.
 
In three weeks, I can find a part-time licensed security guard to work for me on a pro-rata basis, if I can't, I will pay-pal you £600, on the other hand, if I can you will pay me £600.
 
PM me if you think I can't
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Offline Placebo88

 
 
I found the answer to my question. They would be breaking the law if they employ admin/ security according to Sexual Offences Act 2003, Section 53.
 
I'm not sure where you are from, but in London cost of living is high.
 
I can find someone to do security for me for few hours of pay in London. If you don't believe me we can wager that.
 
In three weeks, I can find a part-time licensed security guard to work for me on a pro-rata basis, if I can't, I will pay-pal you £600, on the other hand, if I can you will pay me £600.
 
PM me if you think I can't

The law matters fuck all in this situation, you think anyone gives a damn about that? Agencies advertise online with impunity. The laws got better things to spend its time on.

You said minimum wage, then you say how high living costs are in London. I don't see your argument there.

A security guard for general duties is not the same as someone to deal with an escort's admin, nor even a security guard to look after an escort. If the escort is not out there are whole different issues of discretion and trust involved. Where do you advertise for that and find someone who you can rely on? That is one for you to answer.

Your wager has nothing to do with escorting.

Offline puntingpumping1920

The law matters fuck all in this situation, you think anyone gives a damn about that? Agencies advertise online with impunity. The laws got better things to spend its time on.

You said minimum wage, then you say how high living costs are in London. I don't see your argument there.

A security guard for general duties is not the same as someone to deal with an escort's admin, nor even a security guard to look after an escort. If the escort is not out there are whole different issues of discretion and trust involved. Where do you advertise for that and find someone who you can rely on? That is one for you to answer.

Your wager has nothing to do with escorting.

 
You're a talker 
 
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I wasn't making an argument, I just said its very easy to find someone to do admin/security on pro-rata basis, and if you doubt that, we can wager that.   
 
I never said security and admin are the same, but security officials can cover administration duties.
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Offline Placebo88


 
You're a talker 
 
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I wasn't making an argument, I just said its very easy to find someone to do admin/security on pro-rata basis, and if you doubt that, we can wager that.   
 
I never said security and admin is the same, but security officials can cover administration duties.

The delicate and confidential nature of the work involved is a key thing that you are not acknowledging. That was the point I was attempting to get across.

What Admin duties exactly do you have in mind for this cheap helper to deal with?

If you didnt want answers why start the topic? Why all the silly pictures, it makes you look simple.

Offline puntingpumping1920

The delicate and confidential nature of the work involved is a key thing that you are not acknowledging. That was the point I was attempting to get across.

What Admin duties exactly do you have in mind for this cheap helper to deal with?

If you didnt want answers why start the topic? Why all the silly pictures, it makes you look simple.

 
Admin duties such as planning and scheduling the booking process 
 
I found the answer, its against the law.
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Offline Titti Tatti

The other OBVIOUS point is they want a deposit so punters don't turn up late/fail to show etc. How will a 'personal assistant" help with that?

The other problem would be finding and managing someone suitable. I just checked, INDEED currently has no adverts for a Whore's Maid.

Offline king tarzan

I have been told so many times by many working girls that if every client was like me kind gentle easy going polite they could keep all the money to themselves would not have to have security and pay a percentage. .
Brothel ones also told me if every client was like me they wouldn't have to work in a brothel for security reasons and could keep all the money to themselves. .
They said the facts that I was kind gentle nice easy going polite...
They said not all men are like that this why security is needed..

My adultworks feedback from them attests to that..
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Offline lewisjones23

I have been told so many times by many working girls that if every client was like me kind gentle easy going polite they could keep all the money to themselves would not have to have security and pay a percentage. .
Brothel ones also told me if every client was like me they wouldn't have to work in a brothel for security reasons and could keep all the money to themselves. .
They said the facts that I was kind gentle nice easy going polite...
They said not all men are like that this why security is needed..

My adultworks feedback from them attests to that..

I'm sure you are a parody account

Offline Jonestown

I have been told so many times by many working girls that if every client was like me kind gentle easy going polite they could keep all the money to themselves would not have to have security and pay a percentage. .
Brothel ones also told me if every client was like me they wouldn't have to work in a brothel for security reasons and could keep all the money to themselves. .
They said the facts that I was kind gentle nice easy going polite...
They said not all men are like that this why security is needed..

My adultworks feedback from them attests to that..

They said the same to me - are you my long lost twin ?

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I have been told so many times by many working girls that if every client was like me kind gentle easy going polite they could keep all the money to themselves would not have to have security and pay a percentage. .
Brothel ones also told me if every client was like me they wouldn't have to work in a brothel for security reasons and could keep all the money to themselves. .
They said the facts that I was kind gentle nice easy going polite...
They said not all men are like that this why security is needed..

My adultworks feedback from them attests to that..

 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Are you one of those that thinks all other punters are bad.   

bobbles1945

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If you look at threads on SAAFE you will find that prossies are plagued by timewasters-those that text or phone with no intention of making a booking (just to have a wank) those that send pictures of their cocks or claim they are big or small (invariably timewasters) and those that make a booking and don’t show.
 
Prossies like to talk to the potential punter in person and trust their instincts as to whether he is normal or some sort of wierdo. Many prossies will ask for a confirmation call to check the client is on his way-if there is no confirmation they will cancel the booking.

While agencies can field most of the wank calls, they often fail on basic security-like running checks on potential clients-their interest is just getting the maximum number of bookings so as to maximise their profit. Many prossies who go indie after working for agencies do so as they get to keep all the money and can talk to the potential client to gauge whether she wants to meet. A 70% potential client reject rate is not uncommon. This is why an administrator would not work-the prossie likes to talk to the potential punter herself.

Some prossies will charge deposits as it can weed out those who are potential no shows-especially on outcalls to private addresses-not infrequently those addresses may be fake or there will be non answer when the prossie arrives. Positive AW feedback on clients  is helpful as it shows that the client exists and that he has not been abusive or violent in previous encounters with WGs.

You only have to read some of the entries on ukpunting to realize that there are some unsavoury guys around and they make it hard for those who make a booking turn up on time are clean and respectful pay and do the deed and push off-which is what the prozzie wants.

Offline Placebo88

I have been told so many times by many working girls that if every client was like me kind gentle easy going polite they could keep all the money to themselves would not have to have security and pay a percentage. .
Brothel ones also told me if every client was like me they wouldn't have to work in a brothel for security reasons and could keep all the money to themselves. .
They said the facts that I was kind gentle nice easy going polite...
They said not all men are like that this why security is needed..

My adultworks feedback from them attests to that..

I doubt most do pay for any sort of security. Outcalls might use a driver.

vw

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I doubt most do pay for any sort of security. Outcalls might use a driver.

All of my recent outcall visits have been self drive, had to help with parking meter on one of my reviews.

i expect someone knows what where they are and what time they are due to finish, hence many drop a text when extending meets to let them know of the extension.


Notice some idiot banned for moaning about another posters posting within the rules again.

Offline Placebo88

The only relevant part of your post  :hi:

Actually what I posted was relevant to what was being asked, did you not read the question?

As to your suggested abridged version, once you start practicing what you preach I might take your advice more seriously.

Offline Lalalaveets

I never understood why corner shops don't hire SAS soldiers to beat the shit of children stealing sweets,

Never understood why beautiful women won't hire a huge gorilla to stop random Geezer approaching them

I never understood why teenagers won't just hire a body guard to beat up their bullies,


Are you fucking stupid mate? You can't pay people with farts and flowers. Just read your post back to yourself then ask.... do you understand why you wrote that bollocks?
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Offline puntingpumping1920

I never understood why corner shops don't hire SAS soldiers to beat the shit of children stealing sweets,

Never understood why beautiful women won't hire a huge gorilla to stop random Geezer approaching them

I never understood why teenagers won't just hire a body guard to beat up their bullies,


Are you fucking stupid mate? You can't pay people with farts and flowers. Just read your post back to yourself then ask.... do you understand why you wrote that bollocks?

 
I've experienced going to a in-call location where there was security there. I've called whores where there was maid helping the booking process and scheduling appointments. 
 
I just never knew why it wasn't common practice, but now I know --- Its against the law

Maybe its down to your lack of experience, you not understanding the question.

Case in point,  External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only --- if you check this SPs profile she had employed admin worker that scheduled and booked appointments, in which she paid every week. Many punters had problems with the maid.
 
Calling a punter stupid, maybe you need to look in the mirror brother Hidden Image/Members Only
 
 
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 04:54:58 pm by puntingpumping1920 »
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Offline con-a-ser

Bollocks  :hi:

Well that is the mentality of those who don't understand the law & risks they take
& to think others consider your posts to be helpful & not just misguided


Very true, I just looked it up .
They would be breaking the law if they employ admin/ security according to, Sexual Offences Act 2003, Section 53. 
Thanks con-a-ser.

See the advantage of someone who knows & points you in the right direction

Offline con-a-ser

I've experienced going to a in-call location where there was security there. I've called whores where there was maid helping the booking process and scheduling appointments.   
I just never knew why it wasn't common practice, but now I know --- Its against the law
Maybe its down to your lack of experience, you not understanding the question.

Well that is what causes the issue

Some know the law some don't
Some girls think it is a risk worth taking for piece of mind & feeling secure
Others think it is best to stick withing the boundries of the law to the best of there ability

Offline Home Alone

Coming to this a bit late - story of my punting career ;) - I'm looking at security from a different angle.

As someone who's naturally on the fluffy end of the spectrum and had in part of my career had to follow up leads and was never sure how I'd be received, I often wonder about girls who seem to be truly independent and have nobody else around their flat/house.

My all-time favourite once admitted she didn't even have a personal alarm. I  could partly understand that; she might not have wanted the neighbours knowing how many men visitors she had visiting but even so ... :thumbsdown:

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My all-time favourite once admitted she didn't even have a personal alarm.
Sensible girl lying to you, why would anyone reveal their security, would you hand out your pin number to a regular?


Seems like job done, she made you feel more special to keep you coming back.   :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Offline joe diddley

Because those who might be interested would find that they are getting called out at very short notice at all kinds of hours punctuated by long spells of not being called out, making this line of employment not worthwhile. Ask JKay. Oh shit, just realised that we can't ask him now.

Offline tantric talents

They would probably be expected to pay for such services in kind.
But fortunately most of the Unsullied seem to be available now until they are needed for the next series  :P

Offline Jimmyredcab

Ok, how much is the pro$$ie going to pay her "minder".   ??????

Let's say £70 a day, 5 days a week that is £350.

Most pro$$ies don't even like paying for condoms and baby wipes.   :rolleyes: