VIVIEN'S MAGIC HANDS - Cardiff

[Lickster42]

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Arranged a booking via text, prompt response , a few messages back and forth then time arranged and directions given. Her place is in the Bay near the International pool. Plenty of parking along the entrance to a large office complex nearby and public parking is OK. I texted her upon arrival and was given the building name and flat number again by text. The door was opened  by a non smiling and almost angry looking person, all I said was "hello" and was immediately told to be quiet in an abrupt manner. My immediate thought was that this is not going to be a good punt so stated extra quietly that I left something in my car and walked.

I met Nicole- Sensual Masseuse (  External Link/Members Only ) a while back and was not allowed to speak throughout the punt. I don't want to a have shouting match but a bit of chat is always nice to break the ice and get to know the person with whom you are going to be intimate with. Not sure why these girls have a silence policy, do they have a kid asleep in another room or a boyfriend who doesn't what's going on or there is another girl with another punter. Whatever the reason it's not the type of punt I would like to indulge in.

There have been other reviews pointing out that Vivien has not always been in the best of moods, regardless of anything she is providing a service and a polite demeanor is really a minimum requirement.  I have been on punts before which did not start well and only got worse so this time I am glad I walked at the first sign.

I had also made the booking with Vivien on AW and was amazed to see positive feedback although I walked!  The wording of the feedback was almost identical to the feedback I had from Nicole- Sensual Masseuse a few months ago. I have copied and pasted both feedback details below. Looks like the same "Sergei" manages both of these girls.

VIVIEN'S MAGIC HANDS (1)   04/08/2017 11:27   Positive   Offering Services         Respond   
Friendly clean gentleman. Good company.I hope we meet again! +++

-SENSUAL-MASSEUSE- (8)   28/07/2016 20:22   Positive   Offering Services         Respond   
Nice, respectful gentleman, good company, i hope we meet again! +++++

[Punting_Mad]

her profile has gone down... and Nicoles..

sergei must be reading this stuff

[Steelworker]

Good man for making that fast decision to walk. It would be comical about the feedback if it wasn't so fucking annoying. Thanks for reviewing

[Lickster42]

Yep glad I walked, went to Bann Sakunee on Schooner Way instead. The ladies are not stunning but ok and more importantly they have a pleasant demeanor and talk to you nicely during the punt.  Lesson to be learnt Viv and Nic.

[wanchor]

Thank you Ser_Davos for reviewing. Having read all the mixed reviews of both her and Nicole Sensual Masseuse, I'll stick with Ban Sakunee.

[Lickster42]

Just call me SD - I had to change my UKP name and struggled with choosing a new one but as I am a GOT fan went for this and found a decent pic to go with it. Btw I am not quite as old as Ser Davos!

[wanchor]

Just call me SD - I had to change my UKP name and struggled with choosing a new one but as I am a GOT fan went for this and found a decent pic to go with it. Btw I am not quite as old as Ser Davos!

Okay SD  . I've noticed a lot of short hand abbreviations on here, so will try and adapted to it.

[np500]

Okay SD  . I've noticed a lot of short hand abbreviations on here, so will try and adapted to it.

And S P's for service providers with save you time and ink 

[wanchor]

And S P's for service providers with save you time and ink 

Got it. Thank you Redevil86. 

[SO595]

Looks like the same "Sergei" manages both of these girls.

I think there is definitely some relationship between them, the first time I saw Nicole (in Canton), Vivien let me in the front door because she was just leaving as I arrived.  Their MO lately seems a bit different though.  Nicole has been based in the same flat for ages, but Vivien seems to move location each time she comes back from Hungary.

Not sure why these girls have a silence policy, do they have a kid asleep in another room or a boyfriend who doesn't what's going on or there is another girl with another punter. Whatever the reason it's not the type of punt I would like to indulge in.

I have seen Nicole more often, and she started out very quiet (which is fine by me as I like to relax and zone out a bit during the massage), but last time she actually started conversation a couple of times.  Never any sign of anyone else present, but she has always encouraged me to be quiet on the way through the communal hall/stairs. 

It always amused me that the downstairs flat was occupied by a full service escort.  Had to wonder if they knew each other, and what they were up to!

Thanks for the review, all adds to the general picture that Vivien is a bit moody.

[snaitram99]

I think there is definitely some relationship between them, the first time I saw Nicole (in Canton), Vivien let me in the front door because she was just leaving as I arrived.  Their MO lately seems a bit different though.  Nicole has been based in the same flat for ages, but Vivien seems to move location each time she comes back from Hungary.

I have seen Nicole more often, and she started out very quiet (which is fine by me as I like to relax and zone out a bit during the massage), but last time she actually started conversation a couple of times.  Never any sign of anyone else present, but she has always encouraged me to be quiet on the way through the communal hall/stairs. 

It always amused me that the downstairs flat was occupied by a full service escort.  Had to wonder if they knew each other, and what they were up to!

Thanks for the review, all adds to the general picture that Vivien is a bit moody.

I think at first they worked together, but they seem now to be separate. Saw Nicole a couple of times (reviewed) and found her attractive and friendly (after the massage, though). Thought the "sensual" aspect too hyped up. Prefer Thai massages (with HE when available) now.

I don't think Nicole has a "Sergei" - should that be a "Zoltan"?. Capable of managing her own AW I would think and speaks reasonable English. Never got round to seeing Vivien and glad that I didn't.

Where (approximately) is Nicole working now? (I thought she varied according to where short term serviced let is available.)

[SO595]

Thought the "sensual" aspect too hyped up. Prefer Thai massages (with HE when available) now.

I don't think Nicole has a "Sergei" - should that be a "Zoltan"?. Capable of managing her own AW I would think and speaks reasonable English. Never got round to seeing Vivien and glad that I didn't.

Where (approximately) is Nicole working now? (I thought she varied according to where short term serviced let is available.)

I agree about the "sensual" bit.  Very much a massage followed by a handjob with a bit of gentle stroking and tickling to link the two together.

I haven't seen Nicole in a couple of months but the description of the location on her profile sounds the same. Last time I saw her she was in Riverside and had been there for at least 8 or 9 months before that.

[Onlyblue]

I think at first they worked together, but they seem now to be separate. Saw Nicole a couple of times (reviewed) and found her attractive and friendly (after the massage, though). Thought the "sensual" aspect too hyped up. Prefer Thai massages (with HE when available) now.

I don't think Nicole has a "Sergei" - should that be a "Zoltan"?. Capable of managing her own AW I would think and speaks reasonable English. Never got round to seeing Vivien and glad that I didn't.

Where (approximately) is Nicole working now? (I thought she varied according to where short term serviced let is available.)

Lower Cathedral Rd which is Riverside.

[crfc]

Best not to put the actual road in posts!!!
Riverside is enough

[SeekingtheTruth]

Best not to put the actual road in posts!!!
Riverside is enough

She used to have the street name on her profile.

[crfc]

Did she ah...
As I'm down that way reguarly I'll smile at anyone i see lurking at doorways now then 

[SO595]

Best not to put the actual road in posts!!!
Riverside is enough

Which is why that's all I said 

It's a actually in the site rules (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1.0):

General description of incall locations is acceptable, but not specific house numbers or street names or postcodes

She used to have the street name on her profile.

Maybe, but she has the ability to remove it from there if her attitude to privacy changes, and then it only remains in the memories of those who saw it.  Having it posted here for posterity removes that degree of control from her.

I've reported the post, so admin can decide whether to censor it or not (nothing personal Onlyblue)

[Jimmyredcab]

Best not to put the actual road in posts!!!
Riverside is enough

Up to Admin as always but naming the road does not reveal the address.   

[SeekingtheTruth]

Which is why that's all I said 

It's a actually in the site rules (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1.0):

Maybe, but she has the ability to remove it from there if her attitude to privacy changes, and then it only remains in the memories of those who saw it.  Having it posted here for posterity removes that degree of control from her.

I've reported the post, so admin can decide whether to censor it or not (nothing personal Onlyblue)

Does that mean you are going to now go through all the reviews on the site and report each one that has a street name? There are a lot so you could be a while.

But just putting the street name doesn't reveal too much, especially as she moves around a lot. If it was a short street I would agree with you but the one named is massive so personally don't see it as an issue on this one.

[Corus Boy]

Some common sense needs to prevail!

We all know that the Brazilians were in Newport Road, but it's a long road.

Broadway the same, but when it came down to St P's there were only about 12 houses, hence a more discrete reference, similarly the Stadium place.

Not to mention the 'behind the green door' place! Ambiguous enough even if it was the only green door on the street.

I know some people don't think about what they write but most are careful.

[SO595]

Up to Admin as always but naming the road does not reveal the address.   

Agree on both points, and I may modify my interpretation of the site rules by how he responds to this (or doesn't) but the wording seems very clear to me.

[SO595]

Does that mean you are going to now go through all the reviews on the site and report each one that has a street name?

No, of course not, and as I mentioned above if Admin doesn't want to remove it that's entirely his call and I will take that as a hint to modify my interpretation of the rule accordingly.

But just putting the street name doesn't reveal too much, especially as she moves around a lot

As I mentioned above she's been in the same place for a long time.

[SO595]

...naming the road does not reveal the address.   

But just putting the street name doesn't reveal too much,

Not by itself (there are 115 addresses on that street according to Royal Mail) but combining the street name with other information on this thread gives a much better clue.

[James999]

Not by itself (there are 115 addresses on that street according to Royal Mail) but combining the street name with other information on this thread gives a much better clue.

If you want to know a pro$$ies address all someone has to do is ring her up and she will tell them, stop being such a fucking pansey