Lack of Change is it Greed or Stupidity

[Jimmyredcab]

I give the correct money, I do not have cash for extras, everything is agreed before a meet, girls that try for extra cash are disapointed.

I use a card for all things in daily life

Credit cards are no accepted everywhere ---------------- for example the bar at Windsor races (and my cab).   

[cunnyhunt]

Credit cards are no accepted everywhere ---------------- for example the bar at Windsor races (and my cab).   

Ok, for most transactions.

My statement is paid from an account in another country as I am not paid here. I do not like to transfer much money to here as I could be transferred back to my home office at any time. (was supposed to be last year !) and Sterling is useless anywhere else !

[Michelle Independent]

I dont understand girls that put their price 69£... If i was a customer and wanted to piss her off a bit i would ask for my 1£... the thing is that most girls try their luck with 90£ and keep 10£ change so either way they charge 100£ but 90 seems smaller...  I know customers who think 90£ is reasonable but 100£ is too much but at the end thry still end up paying 100£.... But i do agree if u charge 90 you should always have 2or 3 10£ notes to give change. As my half hour rate is 70£ most of times i get 4x 20£ and straight away i put tena back-if he take it he take it if not its up to him but i find it awkward to ask"do u want a change back?"...

[James999]

I dont understand girls that put their price 69£... If i was a customer and wanted to piss her off a bit i would ask for my 1£...

It's not sensible to piss of someone who you are about to have sex with, FFS you get pissed off if they've not gone by the time your egg timers finished 

[James999]

Credit cards are no accepted everywhere ---------------- for example the bar at Windsor races (and my cab).   

They will eventually move with the times 

Touch payment cards is the future, so much easier to take a card than a pocketfull of notes & coins 

[Michelle Independent]

It's not sensible to piss of someone who you are about to have sex with, FFS you get pissed off if they've not gone by the time your egg timers finished 

my timer was used in favour of customers at least they got full hour they pay for. And i dont think that is topic to discuss that.

[Jimmyredcab]

my timer was used in favour of customers at least they got full hour they pay for.

Oh I understand now --------------- the egg timer was for OUR benefit, silly me.   

[James999]

my timer was used in favour of customers at least they got full hour they pay for.

That does not fit with your response "Time is Money" it is clearly designed to make sure they do not get 30 seconds more time with you than they have paid for, did you bang the timer when they were not looking as well to speed it up 

[Jimmyredcab]

Touch payment cards is the future, so much easier to take a card than a pocketfull of notes & coins 

Not for people who can't manage their finances, it is all too easy to spend money you don't have.   

Credit card companies want everything to go through their system ---------- so they can take their %

[Tailpipe]

That does not fit with your response "Time is Money" it is clearly designed to make sure they do not get 30 seconds more time with you than they have paid for, did you bang the timer when they were not looking as well to speed it up 

James is it Her turn for todays windup was Jim yesterday 

[James999]

Not for people who can't manage their finances, it is all too easy to spend money you don't have

Not on a debit card 

But if someone does get overdrawn that is their problem, people need to take responsibility for their actions 

[Devil Man]

I once saw a punter give a party host £120 in £1 pound coins as payment, and as it was payment on exit it was a case of that or nothing.

Ahahahahahaha!

He should have paid them in a mixture of 5 pence, 10 pence and 20 pence coins!

[cunnyhunt]

I forgot, I did a 30 minute some years ago, when I arrived I did not have enough Sterling so she looked at exchange rate and I paid with mix of £ and euro.
She was ok with it, better for her when changing money for holiday.

[mh]

They will eventually move with the times 

Touch payment cards is the future, so much easier to take a card than a pocketfull of notes & coins 

True, but currently touch payment cards are limited to small amounts (e.g. less than a tenner); this would not be much use on a punt... 

Anyway, cash is still king for anonymous payments. All payment cards currently leave a trail. Until there's an electronic payment method that has the anonymity of cash then cash won't die out. That will need a self-contained secure payment card or device probably with a display and biometric access control to make instant device to device (person to person) payments.

[cunnyhunt]

or device probably with a display and biometric access control to make instant device to device (person to person)

Isn't it called a pussy ?

[Baz Vegas Bob]

True, but currently touch payment cards are limited to small amounts (e.g. less than a tenner); this would not be much use on a punt... 

Anyway, cash is still king for anonymous payments. All payment cards currently leave a trail. Until there's an electronic payment method that has the anonymity of cash then cash won't die out. That will need a self-contained secure payment card or device probably with a display and biometric access control to make instant device to device (person to person) payments.

You can get something like a Prime Card from many Off Licences. You do not have to give any info, and when you activate it, you can just give a dodgy address and name.

[Jimmyredcab]

Anyway, cash is still king for anonymous payments. All payment cards currently leave a trail. Until there's an electronic payment method that has the anonymity of cash then cash won't die out.

People who earn money in the black economy   ---- such as prostitutes, should be very wary of using credit cards.   

[Jimmyredcab]

You can get something like a Prime Card from many Off Licences. You do not have to give any info, and when you activate it, you can just give a dodgy address and name.

Or simply use cash.   

[James999]

People who earn money in the black economy   ----

And of course those who earn money in the grey economy are also keen to deal in cash and avoid credit / denit cards 

[Baz Vegas Bob]

Or simply use cash.   

Aye, modern life. I miss the days when you could get a prossie down the docks for a bag of grain and two turnips.

[potato]

Still can't see the problem!   If the girl is £70, £90 or whatever then just take the right cash!  If you are someone than might drop an hour rate down to half hour, having seen the girl, then make sure you you have the right combo of notes to do either.  We talk about girls being lazy but it seems some guys are too lazy even to ensure that they have the correct change!  My local snack van man is also pissed off with people giving him £20 notes all day long for a £2 or £3 sandwich - whereas I have a stash of pound coins in the car.   Given that a lot of girls tend to be either money grabbing or disorganised - and we all are aware of that - why  would you expect it to be any different when it comes to expecting them to have change?

[Tailpipe]

Is it just me or is this the worst most boring thread in UKP history 

[James999]

Is it just me or is this the worst most boring thread in UKP history 

The fact that it's gone to 5 pages and you have repeatedly posted on it would perhaps indicate that it's likely you, so why not start a more interesting thread instead of whinging, the floors all yours ........................................................... 

[Tailpipe]

The fact that it's gone to 5 pages and you have repeatedly posted on it would perhaps indicate that it's likely you, so why not start a more interesting thread instead of whinging, the floors all yours ...........................................................  

What does that mean you grump young git.

[Tailpipe]

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[mh]

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[mh]

You can get something like a Prime Card from many Off Licences. You do not have to give any info, and when you activate it, you can just give a dodgy address and name.

OK, well this is the first prepaid card I've seen that can be reloaded anonymously using cash, so it has some mileage as an anon card. However, there's a 2% charge of the reload amount, so you lose a £1 for every £50 loaded and there's a maximum of £1,875 before you have to register the card. Not dreadful, but I won't be rushing to get one.

[sarahjayneleeds]

You can get something like a Prime Card from many Off Licences. You do not have to give any info, and when you activate it, you can just give a dodgy address and name.

For those interested you can also use these cards to top up credits on AW 

[mh]

For those interested you can also use these cards to top up credits on AW 

I would hope it can be used anywhere a credit card can be used. But if you had to visit a PayPoint to top up the card then you might as well buy a UKash voucher which has no 2% surcharge... Of course if you have the money on the card anyway then it's convenient to use.

[King Nuts]

Back to the OP, I saw a WG recently who didn't have the requisite tenner in change, and I only had 20s on me.

I capitulated, mainly on the basis that I am not petty about money, but it made me realise that I don't ever recall a time when any tart ever had any change.

Has anyone here ever had the change given to them?

[Stalinator]

I went to a WG that charged 80 for 30 mins and I only had 2 50's. She gave me a 20 back no problem.

Generally I make sure to have the exact amount on me. I have noticed a few prossies that have no prices on their profiles meaning you have to ask on the phone.

[dilettante]

The second time I saw my first ever punt, a Pole in Berlin, she didn't ask me for payment till after the hour was up.  I then gave her E20 extra as I owed her E10 from the first time - 1.5 hours had been 1hr + .5hrs (brothel rates) and I'd only taken E150 along with me and extended 1hr into an extra half.  She duly returned with the E10 change.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I'm starting the habit where i get the girl to repeat after me "thats agreed £100 pounds for one hour of your time with no other charges for the services on your website", and I will be there at 8 PM or 20;00 hours in case there're more used to the 24 hour clock this does help any misunderstandings  but some ladies are so disorganised I do wonder  quite  what is going on in their heads sometimes?.

[christickles]

I have always been offered and given the correct change if it was required. Just assumed I would be to be honest.

[JoeyRamone]

Generally I have the right money with me, and like some I carry a bit extra should I want to extend the meeting. However I have been given change back by a WG once - cash machines generally give out 10s and 20s, and I stayed 45 mins with a WG once, and at the end asked her how much - she said call it £45 but of course I hadn't got any fivers. So I said "here's £50" and she surprised me by saying "hang on, let me check my purse" - pulled her purse out, rooted through it, and gave me back £5 in £1 and £2 coins. I thought fair enough, thanked her, and left.

[smiths]

I ensure i have the agreed cash on me, i wouldnt rely on getting change off a WG. Most of my punts cost round figures like £80 or £150 so just notes needed.

[Ben4454]

Stupidity is probably a big element.

I once had one working girl give me back £30 and said I overpaid when I gave her the correct amount.

Maybe they are terrible at Math  and simply couldn't work it out '

[Daffodil]

I believe it's a scam. A cash-only business claiming not to have change?  If she doesn't have change then she should be the one who loses out, it's her responsibility as the service provider.

The common denominations are £10 and £20. If she works in multiples of £20 she'll never have a problem (£50 notes are not common denominations). If she works in multiples of £10 that are not £20 divisible (£70, £90, £110, etc.) then of course she has change of a tenner because somebody has paid her £70, £90, £110, etc.

If she's sneaky, and operating with fivers, then of course she has fivers for change as that's that she is operating in.

[Daffodil]

All that said, I do try to take the correct money because I know they will try to scam me and/or are too stupid to have change. That's my advice.

If you want some fun, go to a girl who wants £70 for half hour with only £20 notes. If she claims to not have change pull out your coin bags and pay her the £10 in small change 

[MDB72]

I always make sure I have the right amount with an extra £20 tucked away just in case need petrol or munchies on the way home.

[Corus Boy]

To turn it around;

How stupid is it for any punter, especially an experienced one;

Not to turn up with the exact money?
Not to have a few tenners secreted in separate pockets in case extras are required?

I think this was one of the first pieces of advice I picked up from fellow punters.

Is it stupidity or laziness not to organise your punting funds?

[Dani]

Perhaps for some it is either greed or stupidity but for most I would assume it is just bad organisation.  They don't think to get x amount of spare notes.

Even if they kept a float of x amount of notes they may still run out after a busy day if everyone turns up with the wrong amount.

I and many others don't like to keep too much money in my work place so I only ever have 5 £10 notes on me when I arrive.  If everyone turned up needing change after seeing 5 people I would have no spare notes and I am sure that happens to a lot of women.  Some of us try to keep as little money at work as possible and after being robbed I refuse to keep more than that at work.

If you know how much someone charges why would you not ensure you had the correct money anyway.  There are so many stories about how prossies are thieves or try to con more out of punters with not agreed upon extras.  By carrying the exact amount this cant happen

[LL]

If you know how much someone charges why would you not ensure you had the correct money anyway.  There are so many stories about how prossies are thieves or try to con more out of punters with not agreed upon extras.  By carrying the exact amount this cant happen

Many of us rely on the cashpoint nearest to the punting rendezvous to access the required amount.  Occasionally cashpoints run out of £10 notes and therefore any amount withdraw most be in dominations of £20.  One time this happened to me - I needed £70 for a half-hour punt and I withdrew £80.  I didn't want to make myself late so didn't have time to go into a nearby shop to break a twenty.  The girl I saw (first time I'd met her) did come back with my change after giving her the £80 cash.  It was Sexy Hot Mya in Baker Street.  If there was any problem getting change I think I would tried my hardest to convince her to reduce the rate to £60 rather than upping it to £80.

[Dani]

If there was any problem getting change I think I would tried my hardest to convince her to reduce the rate to £60 rather than upping it to £80.

Fair enough.  Luckily I rarely get caught without change but it did used to happen when I worked full time as would often run out near the end of the day.  I guess it is easier if prossies charge a rounded up sum in increments of £20 that way there would eb no problems with change unless the dreaded £50 notes come out

[LL]

There are surely many anonymous ways to pay for the punt electronically using a smartphone at the beginning of the punt, not in advance.  For example, here's one method I can think of.  WG creates an AdultWork private gallery that costs the value of a punt to access (e.g. £60).  Punter arrives, logs into AW on his smartphone, pays the £60 to AW to access the girl's "private gallery", girl either watches him do that or checks her own account for receipt of the funds, then goes ahead with the punt.

The sooner we can move away from having to carry large sums of cash around shitty areas in London (and other cities!) to meet up with strangers, the better.

[Jayda]

I normally carry change for parking and a single £10 note I used to carry loads more until an attempted robbery... So say if first client turns up and needs change he's taken my last one and only £10 note so if I have another client and he requires change I simply won't have it. In most cases it's not about trying to pull a fast one (although you will get some who will try it in).

In Manchester after several high profile robbery cases most agency girls know not to have huge lumps of cash on them. For those who may have read my posts on another forum will know with regards to the guy who tried to rob me he's appearing in court this month  after successfully robbing other girls. I would post a link to the newspaper article for the incident in question however not sure if that's allowed. Although I was lucky it was still traumatic so in my case I rather be safe than sorry. I

So not all wgs are stupid or greedy.  Ps although a lot of girls don't pay tax on their income that doesn't mean we all don't. I have been paying tax on my escorting income since I started although must admit I don't say escort on my tax return!

[Jayda]

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[Wowgeek]

There are surely many anonymous ways to pay for the punt electronically using a smartphone at the beginning of the punt, not in advance.  For example, here's one method I can think of.  WG creates an AdultWork private gallery that costs the value of a punt to access (e.g. £60).  Punter arrives, logs into AW on his smartphone, pays the £60 to AW to access the girl's "private gallery", girl either watches him do that or checks her own account for receipt of the funds, then goes ahead with the punt.

The sooner we can move away from having to carry large sums of cash around shitty areas in London (and other cities!) to meet up with strangers, the better.

Two issues with that;

First, it's against the AW rules, although that may not be a concern

Secondly, the girl has to pay 30% of that to AW and wait two weeks to get it, not many likely to go for that I suspect 

[kingkong]

Two issues with that;

First, it's against the AW rules, although that may not be a concern

Secondly, the girl has to pay 30% of that to AW and wait two weeks to get it, not many likely to go for that I suspect 

Most of them probably don't even pay the basic tax rate, nevermind an added 30% to AW.