Author Topic: EnglishCleo - North/Central Manchester  (Read 2290 times)


3 review(s) for Cleo Isabella (1 positive, 0 neutral, 2 negative) [Indexed by NigelF]

Offline NigelF

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Price: £100 for 30 mins (including OW but no kissing or RO and fairly average sex). I’ve only seen 3 pornstars in my time but 2 of them were much cheaper than her and one was the same price but all were a lot better, especially in terms of service.

The main reason I saw this girl is because I actually thought she was on tour, as such I didn't want to pass up the opportunity to see a very young girl who's touring despite it being expensive (in comparison to many other escorts, including a lot of excellent ones, in fact all the excellent ones I know). Reading her profile again though, she doesn't really suggest that she's on tour (although it was worded a bit differently previously, nonetheless I definitely misinterpreted things which is my own fault). I also don't care that much about OWO, which is not on offer according to her likes list although I do think she should mention on her explicitly on her profile - nonetheless I have no issue if it's not on her likes list.

Comms: Initially done through AW and they were very quick and very easy. She also quickly gave out her full postcode, none of this wait until Saturn aligns with Mars bullshit that quite a few seem to do! I do understand there can be security issues but it’s nice when a girl makes things as easy as possible.

Location: Her profile claims she's 0.7 miles from the city centre but this is rubbish even if you measure from the outskirts. From the “exact centre” (on Google Maps) she's just over 2 miles away and she's basically in Harpurhey. She's fairly close to the Monsall Metrolink stop. Her profile claims she has a "luxury apartment" but I don't think pink wallpaper with pixies on it and a shower head that just attaches to the two taps in the bath is "luxury". She did recognise this herself though and was very apologetic. To be fair, the shower was pretty decent because I found it fairly easy to get a good temperature (easier than some bloody showers, especially the ones Sheridan's or La Maison). Everything seemed clean and the bed was fine so I actually had no issues with the surroundings but I know some others might and when you're paying £100 (or £200 if it was an hour) for what's falsely described as "luxury", you have a right to complain. Still, I'm there to fuck not to stay or do some interior designing!

Looks: To be honest I probably shouldn’t have booked her because I didn't think she looks that great judging from the face pic on her profile (it's really good that she has one up though). In person, I think she looks a little better but also a little older (although I'm probably being a bit unfair as judging from the phone used to take the picture, it's a potential maximum of just over 2 years old). Although when you're advertising as 19, even just 1 or 2 years is quite a big lie/misleading. In person, I think she looks early-mid 20s, so I was a little disappointed. She claims to have B cup tits and this seems accurate, they are rather small but they are cute and her nipples are very perky (although unfortunately when I licked them I got the impression she didn't like it). She claims to be a size 6 and this seems believable, at any rate she's slim and has a good body. Cute round arse with just about enough to grab on to. Overall, she's good looking.

Service: She started with OW, which was decent but not amazing. Her likes list says French Kissing and French Kissing (at discretion) and in my first email to her I made it clear I was looking for plenty of French kissing - she agreed and we arranged a time to meet. However, in person no kissing was on offer. I should have taken issue right there or even ended the booking and asked for a hefty refund (but not a total one). However, she'd already sucked my cock for a while, I was horny (hadn't had sex or even a wank for days) and unfortunately, I'd forgotten to send my usual "service confirmation" text so it would have been a hassle to get out my phone and prove to her that she agreed to French kissing. I also didn't want to create unnecessary aggro or tension (because at the end of day, complaining about it would likely only serve to make things worse). So, I ignored it and soldiered on.

I then asked for 69 and she said to me that RO is extra! I was actually stunned and when I eventually came round I said "Ah, I take it you don't actually like it?" and she said something along the lines of (I can't exactly remember) "No it's not really that, it's just that if I don't charge extra, everyone will want to do it you know". I literally couldn't understand this and I said I had no money (which was true, I only had a fiver left on me) but I definitely wouldn't have paid extra anyway (even if she was giving me a free shag, I wouldn't pay for RO). I expressed my mild disappointment (politely) and also said "well it's your loss" (in a friendly/jokey way because I didn't really care that much and of course it is technically true). She also said something about "that's why it says "at discretion" on my profile" and I didn't argue with that at the time (because I presumed it was true) but looking now it's not mentioned on her likes list (it just says "Reverse Oral") or anywhere else on her profile. She really should mention her extras on there.

Onto sex and the aforementioned events had taken their toll on my boner. I started on top but I think the correct to phrase describe it is "thumbing in a softie". Thankfully though she was quite tight and pretty enough to get the erection back to full strength (although it still might have been touch and go if my balls weren't so full). A couple of positions were enjoyed and the sex was decent and fairly enthusiastic but nothing amazing. Again, kissing was clearly not on the menu and she made sure to avoid my face during missionary (my oral hygiene/breath was of course excellent).

She seemed a nice girl though and she was definitely pleasant to talk to throughout the session. However, "nice girls" don't lie/mislead about their services because that's dishonest and borderline con artist behaviour (regardless of whether of a lot of other escorts do it too). At best, she's misleading and not upfront about things on her profile.
At the end, she said felt bad about the RO because I was “clearly a nice guy” although that’s a very bizarre criterion to offer RO on – fair enough if she wanted to make sure I did it in a certain way but being a nice guy will have very little bearing on my RO skills. Besides, giving me an extra which should already be included in the exorbitant fee is hardly doing me a massive favour (despite her seeming to think it was).

Overall: Good looking (but not great), very limited service and lies about what she offers. She was friendly and the sex was decent but nothing was amazing. She's basically only good for a pump and dump - so she's massively overpriced. There's much better escorts in terms of looks and services (a lot more on offer and delivered a lot better) for a lot less money. For her looks, location & premises, real age and the services she's offering, she should be charging absolutely no more than £70 for the half hour (and that's being generous). It's not about the money though, the main issue I have is her service - if she'd been a bit more enthusiastic and given me good FK/DFK this could quite easily have been a positive (with caveats).

I clearly shouldn't have chosen her for a variety of reasons, including the fact that she's still overpriced even if she did offer everything she claims and of course the fact that she has absolutely no reviews on here. I possibly should have also confirmed the services in person before we started (especially since I hadn't done it via text) but this is something I don't really like doing as it still seems a little too much/repetitive as she did already agree via email and it seems it a bit confrontational. I know it's a transaction and I'm happy to get my wallet out and pay at the start but for some reason I feel a bit awkward talking about services as soon as I've walked through the door. It would probably be for the best though and I'm sure the good escorts wouldn't really have a problem with it so I probably should think of way to ask while sounding as non-confrontational and non-hassling as possible.

I'm aware this review is far too long and for that I apologise but I have brought up a couple of general talking points about punting if anyone feels like discussing something.

Offline OakTree

For that sort of money you'd expect something exceptional. Your experience sounds nothing close to that.

Rightfully negative in my view.

Offline cueball

Thanks for the review nige

As oaky says, for that money I'd want my head spinning, not my head examining  :dash:

Rightfully red.

I'm very sceptical of so called porn star prossies though. I don't see em as stars or porn actresses, I see em as prossies that have been filmed... There's a gulf of difference imo.


Offline Blue Moon

Thanks for the review, Nigel. I agree with the negative. She's out of my self-imposed price range, but I might have been tempted - until you highlighted the downside.    Bm

Offline Blue Moon

I'm very sceptical of so called porn star prossies though. I don't see em as stars or porn actresses, I see em as prossies that have been filmed... There's a gulf of difference imo.
Me too. I used to book girls who were OK with being filmed during our sessions and I found that an amateur porn actress is much better than a pro one. (The bird in the hand, maybe.) Having said that, I used to have a regular meeting with an ex pornstar in Cambridge, when I was working down there, who was great. She was advertised on AW as Heidi but turned out to be Samantha Bond. Didn't recognise her until she told me of her past. Sadly retired now.    Bm

Offline NigelF

I'm very sceptical of so called porn star prossies though. I don't see em as stars or porn actresses, I see em as prossies that have been filmed... There's a gulf of difference imo.

I actually agree, I think the main reason I mentioned porn stars is because I'd just seen one who was not only very good but also only charging £60 for 30 mins and just for someone on tour that's a very reasonable price. I've just put up a review of her now (pixie little 2).

I don't actually care about them having been in porn (unless they're a pornstar I'm already a fan of). The girls I've seen have all been reasonably priced (£60-80) and the one time I did spend £100 was because I liked the look of her, it was actually a discounted price and I thought she'd deliver her service well (which she did).

I agree they're just prossies who've been filmed and since they get paid less doing porn (certainly per hour) than escorting I find it particularly silly when they start demanding ridiculous sums for escorting.

You're also right to point out that there's a big difference between being a proper pornstar and someone who just appeared in a few porn shoots, that's why I usually use the term "minor pornstar" - i.e. they're someone I and most other guys have never heard of/come across and even if we have, we're unlikely to click on their porn/become a fan (as they're usually the kind of girls I scroll past). Also, a lot of the girls on AW are "British pornstars" who've mainly only appeared in British porn, which is hardly the "big league".