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[pafc1]

So I first posted around Christmas time that I was looking for my first punt, and some of you offered really great advice on my situation and I decided not to go through with it as a result. Well... here we are six months later and I think I'm going to do it. I'm not getting very far though. I got in touch with my first choice through AW last night, and whilst she read the email pretty much straight away I've heard nothing. I know from the forum that she's a very busy lady but I think perhaps my mistake is that I'm going into too much detail in my initial approach, but I just want to be upfront about what I want so there's no confusion going forward. Basically the long and short of it is I don't want sex, I want to watch her get off on toys and then at most a handjob. I thought that would be a simpler booking, but it turns out that this is the second time that my contact, always very polite, has returned either nothing or a "thanks but no thanks".

So... I'm thinking of trying Portfolio, but I'm looking for some advice. Can I talk to them about what I want from the booking. I really don't want to turn up and have an awkward ten minutes at the start of my booking where I feel like I have to explain that I don't want sexual contact. Also, are they likely to call me back at unspecified times? I realise if I was going to make a habit out of this then I need to get a separate sim sorted. Also, are the Portfolio apartments nice and clean? I just need to do it don't I and find out all this stuff for myself?

For those of you thinking "why doesn't he want sex?", basically I have a wife but our sex life has perished. I'm absolutely gasping and things like porn and strip clubs are only making things worse. I just need to feel like I'm in an exciting sexual encounter and in the company of a gorgeous woman doing things for me, but I don't want to "cheat" on my wife by having sex. I realise that's my own bullshit logic as this would probably be just as bad in her eyes.

Anyway, any advice for a first timer much appreciated as always, and no worries at all if it's a case that I just need to leap in and work it out for myself.

[Mikeh38]

When you write your first e-mail to an indie it's best not to go into too much detail about your requirements, just ask for her availability. If she is available then ask her if your requests are ok, I doubt if any decent indie would say no.

I would guess Portfolio is a good choice, ask them and they may recommend a lady for you.

[pafc1]

Thanks Mikeh. Yep, I'll definitely go simpler next time. The first time I did just that, had the appointment booked and then when I explained what I wanted they said it wasn't for them. So I went in with more details upfront this time. I think I'll just give Portfolio a ring and see where it gets me.

[np500]

And another reason for not going in to too much detail is you probably won't be talking to a girl at portfolio's, a male answers and sorts you out, I have booked Aimee through AW, but kept it to the point as I'm not sure who's replying to the e-mails, this is new to me also, so just keeping it simple.

[pafc1]

Ha! It was Aimee I contacted yesterday but have heard nothing so presume I've ballsed it up. Was thinking of trying to book Aimee or Ashlee through Portfolio and just seeing how that goes. Thanks Red Devil.

[Steelworker]

I believe the agency would be dealing with the AW requests. Best to assume it anyway. You'll get same results. 

[playpal69]

Had you thought to go for a cheeky massage just to kick off??

[pafc1]

Thanks Steelworker. Good to know.

Yeah, I thought about a massage a lot, and almost booked into London Tantric as edging is right up my street, but my main worry was coming home stinking of massage oil. Is that an absurd fear? I could genuinely do with a massage currently though, haha.

[SeekingtheTruth]

Thanks Steelworker. Good to know.

Yeah, I thought about a massage a lot, and almost booked into London Tantric as edging is right up my street, but my main worry was coming home stinking of massage oil. Is that an absurd fear? I could genuinely do with a massage currently though, haha.

Just tell them you want unscented oil and you will be fine.

[pafc1]

Okay, great. Good to know.

I think I'm just going to ring Portfolio and see who's available in the time I'm in Cardiff next week. I'm hoping to arrive early and fit it in before my meetings. That means it'll be around 9:30am. You can punt in the morning, right? Or will that severely cut down my options?

[iverthickone]

I am surprised at Aimee not replying tbh, as she would have been my pick too.

Another really nice, and would take it easy girl may be English Rebecca, but she is based in Bristol. She is genuinely nice girl, who will put you at ease straight away, with a chat to get to know you.

The massage idea was also an option I think?


A word of warning.  About 20 years ago I was the same as you.  My wife would not (and will not) give me a blowjob, and sex was practically nonexistent and boring.  I decided just to go to a wg to get my first blowjob (didn't want to die a blowjob virgin)! That lasted 3 appointments before I was away and banging.  I don't necessarily regret it, as I would rather what I do than have an affair ( I love my wife), but it is addictive and expensive, and you may well end up getting more involved.

[Steelworker]

They don't open till 11. I've punted at 9 before but it does cut the options down. Not impossible but you'll likely have to do a bit more arranging via AW/phone

[Steelworker]

Iver provides wise counsel. You may end up wanting to try it. Be prepared for that.

[np500]

Iver, never a truer word spoken in jest ! , I do also love my o h , but after about 8 years of cobweb dick syndrome, I plucked up the ballox to ring a polish girl in Newport, I only wanted a shag and watch my dick get sucked, been wanking to porn for fucking years , 2 and a half years later and about 7.5 k down  . It is addictive, I'll not lie.

[pafc1]

Thanks Steelworker... this is where we see how committed I am to this. Do I try and rearrange my 11am work meeting to 9 to create space later in the day for a punt? Of course I do. The thought of following Aimee, Ashlee or Kirsty up some stairs to an apartment is driving me mental.

Thanks for all the sage warnings. I'd say I end up in a strip club 2-3 times a year and spend depressingly more than a punt, usually on just one girl, and I'm hoping I can keep this at a similar level, but yes, I can totally see that I'll need superhuman will power to keep it in check, and not stick my dick where it shouldn't be. I just need a bit of fun. Something. Just that rush of being in that situation.

[Melfort212]

Iver provides wise counsel. You may end up wanting to try it. Be prepared for that.

Defo. 

[Melfort212]

Iver, never a truer word spoken in jest ! , I do also love my o h , but after about 8 years of cobweb dick syndrome, I plucked up the ballox to ring a polish girl in Newport, I only wanted a shag and watch my dick get sucked, been wanking to porn for fucking years , 2 and a half years later and about 7.5 k down  . It is addictive, I'll not lie.

Thing is it's as cheap/expensive as you want it to be. I used to book 2hours in my early days, now I'm doing 15min quickies on my first booking with that SP.

[Steelworker]

Yes, I went the other way. When had less swag and younger, 30 minute massage, hand relief. Grew to sex. Then escort, 30 mins. As got better jobs and older, now go towards top end and if I know them like 2 hours. Like Red, I'm spending a lot now but keeping it real within budget. You're at the beginning. You may end there or carry on. Good luck

[SeekingtheTruth]

Thanks Steelworker... this is where we see how committed I am to this. Do I try and rearrange my 11am work meeting to 9 to create space later in the day for a punt? Of course I do. The thought of following Aimee, Ashlee or Kirsty up some stairs to an apartment is driving me mental.

Thanks for all the sage warnings. I'd say I end up in a strip club 2-3 times a year and spend depressingly more than a punt, usually on just one girl, and I'm hoping I can keep this at a similar level, but yes, I can totally see that I'll need superhuman will power to keep it in check, and not stick my dick where it shouldn't be. I just need a bit of fun. Something. Just that rush of being in that situation.

Just visit one of the thai girls and ask for a massage with a HE.

[Melfort212]

Just visit one of the thai girls and ask for a massage with a HE.

I'd say book a GFE for an hour with an indie.

[SeekingtheTruth]

I'd say book a GFE for an hour with an indie.

Normally I would agree but that would be a lot of money to pay considering he just wants a HE and no sex.

[Steelworker]

Reading pafc1's scenario, the lady would be sensitive, good looking. Gets off on her toys and maybe talks a bit, then gives hand job. Someone who can talk about this stuff in a mature way. Aimee would fit this bill. But there may be others. I just have more experience having chatted more with her.

[pafc1]

Steelworker has absolutely nailed it. I'm willing to pay for looks and a pleasant time and actually value that over the HE. I like to watch beautiful women and be teased, and I also like conversation with someone that would (at least pretend to) understand my position. I want to have a bit of fun, and it's more about that than the end result. I don't think I could have put "my wants" better myself Steelworker.

Shit... it sounds like Aimee would be perfect for me. I feel like I can't now go back with a second approach. Maybe make a new AW profile and try again with just basic details? Or go through Portfolio and explain what I want on arrival?

Thanks again everyone. The Wales boards are so supportive. I've checked out other areas when I've been away with work and I wouldn't want to be asking this stuff in those regions, haha. Great work all.

[pafc1]

Krissie also looks like she couldn't be more up my street either looks wise. Does anyone have any experience of her? There are a couple of nice reviews but not much online yet as far as I can see.

[Melfort212]

Normally I would agree but that would be a lot of money to pay considering he just wants a HE and no sex.

That's what a lot of guys want their first time and I bet a lot end up wanting to fuck them so may as well set yourself up for the whole hog.

[aps]

Chloe, Aimee, Ashlee from Portfolio would be my choice (in that order)

[SeekingtheTruth]

Steelworker has absolutely nailed it. I'm willing to pay for looks and a pleasant time and actually value that over the HE. I like to watch beautiful women and be teased, and I also like conversation with someone that would (at least pretend to) understand my position. I want to have a bit of fun, and it's more about that than the end result. I don't think I could have put "my wants" better myself Steelworker.

Shit... it sounds like Aimee would be perfect for me. I feel like I can't now go back with a second approach. Maybe make a new AW profile and try again with just basic details? Or go through Portfolio and explain what I want on arrival?

Thanks again everyone. The Wales boards are so supportive. I've checked out other areas when I've been away with work and I wouldn't want to be asking this stuff in those regions, haha. Great work all.

If you make a new AW account it will be associated with your ip address and your acount will be flagged with an alias. Massive red flag for most girls.

Just call Portfolio and have a conversation with them, I'm sure they are running the AW account anyway. They can always point you in the right direction for which girl would be able to fulfill your needs.

[pafc1]

I've put the call in. They're going to text me availability, once I know that I'll ring back and discuss what I'm looking for. I'm buzzing. Thanks everyone.

[sharpshoes78]

Don't forget to tell us how it went 

[Steelworker]

Pafc1, Sharpshoes is right. Write a review. It'll be different but I'm really looking forward to reading it 

[pafc1]

Definitely. Weirdly writing the review is something I'm really looking forward to.

I've decided that if all of the 3 I've asked are not available then I'm going to put it out of my mind until I'm next down that way, rather than set up something I'm not totally into.

Quick question... when he asked my name I just blurted out a fake one. Is it best to have an alias you use for punting or is it relatively harmless for them to know your real first name?

Also... I think i now know why I haven't heard. I have a previously registered account at this ip and I which I cancelled, but I was unable to reactivate it so I've probably got a big red flag against my ip. So it's agencies or nothing for me currently I guess. Moving house soon though so I think that means a new ip?

[Melfort212]

Definitely. Weirdly writing the review is something I'm really looking forward to.

I've decided that if all of the 3 I've asked are not available then I'm going to put it out of my mind until I'm next down that way, rather than set up something I'm not totally into.

Quick question... when he asked my name I just blurted out a fake one. Is it best to have an alias you use for punting or is it relatively harmless for them to know your real first name?

Also... I think i now know why I haven't heard. I have a previously registered account at this ip and I which I cancelled, but I was unable to reactivate it so I've probably got a big red flag against my ip. So it's agencies or nothing for me currently I guess. Moving house soon though so I think that means a new ip?

Yeah fake name. You could use your real first name but I wouldn't encourage it. I use Melfort for making bookings as well as my UKP/UKE username.

[SeekingtheTruth]

Yeah you will get a new ip address but dont try to log into any of the old accounts at the new address or they will automatically be linked.

All depends on you for the name. With some girls I use my real name, with some I use a fake. With one particular girl I am known as Cardigan 

As long as you are using a punting phone then the name is all they will ever know about you unless you tell them more.

[Steelworker]

I tend to use my first name. Cardigan? I could understand 'Jumper' 

[Asian Hunter]

@pafc1 if you've followed some of my latest post about AW profile account, try not to deactivate it after you've collected x amount of feedback. It's a bitch creating a new one and losing or forgetting passwords to the AW account. Like others have said, it does throw up a red flag of alias to your IP address. It's a nightmare trying to book girls with zero feedback to your name, trust me I've been there.

Try agencies, I tried to book tonight through Portfolio, but the girl I wanted was fully booked. But good luck with whoever you go with and we look forward to reading that first review  .

[pafc1]

Cardigan! Hahaha, it makes me wish I'd come up with something more impressive than... um... James??? Brilliant.

Thanks for the advice Asian Hunter. I think my plan is to dip my toe with a couple of Agency bookings, and then start a new account on my new IP once I've moved. Not decide to cancel it in a fit of conscious, simultaneously forgetting all the new login deets I'd made up for it.

Things aren't going great though. I think I'm destined for this not to happen. So I rang portfolio at 12 today and spoke to a decent sounding guy. Asked the availability of 3 girls next week when I'm in Cardiff. As yet I've not heard back. Is this normal when you're booking roughly a week in advance, or do you think my enquiry has dropped through the net? Happy to ring back tomorrow but don't want to come across as pushy and get my number earmarked as well as my IP. Who knew it would be this difficult to get a foot on the punting ladder.

[pafc1]

I just text them as I'm keen to get it sorted and know it's happening and they said the issue is they're unusually busy at the moment and to call back a day or two before.

I guess I just need to put it from my mind and hope for the best next week, but having decided to go through with it I must admit I was keen to get it all locked in and ready to go.

Fuck it! What's 3 more nights.

[Asian Hunter]

@pafc1 who are you seeing?

I tried ringing, but no answer and fired a text which they replied back within a few minutes. It was all text after that to check availability of girls and times etc... I think it takes a while for the guy on the phone to ring or text the girl if she's available or not, he's like the middle man in a business deal.

[pafc1]

Hoping to see Aimee but I'm assuming that's probably a no go given her current popularity. I've also asked specifically about Ashlee and Krissie as they both look my type and get decent reviews. However, barring that I also asked him to just let me know who's available.

He's told me to ring next week. Gonna try and forget about it until then but to be honest now that I feel like I've committed to going through with my first punt it's pretty much all I'm thinking about. Should be a fun 48 hours ahead.

[Steelworker]

You'll be ok. I think you're right though. You need to scratch the itch once.

[Asian Hunter]

You need to scratch the itch once.

Caution though, because this itch can be very addictive once scratched.

[pafc1]

Thought it was worth an update as my first punt was today... So I started trying to book for today last weekend. After a few attempts at trying to find out availability they told me to try nearer the day. Obviously I was keen to get the date in the diary and sorted, possibly a bit too keen. So I rang back on Tuesday, having rearranged my morning work meeting to accommodate an 11am slot and he sent through availability. No sign of Aimee sadly, but plenty of choice and at least 3 I was keen to see. Rang straight back to book and it turned out he'd given me 11pm not 11am. Another wait for a text... 4 girls, just one on my Portfolio HL. Rang back, got it booked and described what I wanted from it which was all then confirmed with the girl. All set. Just two days to get through. I'll be honest it's all I've thought about. I decided not to masturbate between the weekend and now and so I feel like I've been walking around like a sixteen year old kid in a perpetual state of horniness. Anyway, come today, up early to get to Cardiff, stopping at the address on the way to look at parking and getting in and out of the venue. No text at 9. Put it out of my mind and headed to my work meeting. Halfway through a text from the agency saying she'll have to cancel and there are no replacements. Fuuuuuck. So, right now, rather than exiting my first punt I've just finished a fried breakfast. Not quite the same I can tell you. I guess at least I'm not feeling guilty and worrying that I've somehow caught something from a handjob.

Ah well, I guess it wasn't meant to be this time. It gives me a little bit more time to consider if this is really for me. Just my punting kit to ditch on my way home now. I bought my own new towels from Tesco on the way in as well as other bits. Feel like a bit of an idiot tbh. A fucking horny one mind. I'm absolutely gasping. Can't stop eyeing up the waitress in the greasy spoon.

[pafc1]

I should add that none of this is meant as negative criticism. Portfolio were courteous and helpful throughout the booking process. Having read a lot of this forum it just seems that this kind of thing happens as par for the course. I'd planned it so meticulously though, down to doing a dry run of walking passed the address this morning. I was kind of shitting doing the actual entrance at 11 as it turns out I have a friend that lives about 500 metres away from the place. Everything but the actual punt. Now I know the meaning of frustrated. Thanks for all the advice along the way. I'm sure I'll be back.

[Steelworker]

Sorry it didn't work out. Let us know when it does. 

[pafc1]

Thanks Steelworker. Not sure when I'll next be back in Cardiff/any city with time to schedule a punt but no doubt I'll go through it all again then.

[Grumpy Pumpy]

Hi Pafc

Sorry it didn't work out last week. You've had some excellent advice from what is, as you've already commented, a most supportive forum.

Others have been right to warn of the addictiveness of punting. Mainly from a financial perspective. But I'm not sure anyone has mentioned EAS (emotional attachment syndrome). There's lots about it on the main forum and in the glossary. You've been advised to see some really high quality SPs. They are not just great "in the sack", but most are genuinely nice people. Good to talk to and easy to connect with. That's one of the things that marks out as such good escorts.

But, if you've been deprived of sex - but also the intimacy that comes with it - be aware of not falling into the trap of EAS when you do finally have your first punt.

Please don't think I'm preaching. I've punted for decades and had a blast. I really hope you will too. But it's something else to be mindful of.

The very best of luck to you 

[pafc1]

Thanks Grumpy Pumpy. Yeah, I agree totally. I think it's my main worry, in that at the heart of this I think I'm essentially feeling lonely and missing that contact and excitement you get from being in that moment. The fact that I'm not even looking for sex, but more a pleasant hour where I get to perv at a gorgeous girl who pretends to like being with me is pretty telling I think. I used to frequent a strip club in Exeter once or twice a year and got fairly emotionally attached with a girl there. Not in any major way, but just thinking about her a lot. She was great company and so my type it was unreal. One night I was in there drunk and I propositioned her, I had the year before too and she'd flat out turned me down. This night she said she'd be up for it though and said if I bought an hour dance she'd come back and meet me at my hotel. I went for it, spent an hour nervously waiting at my hotel and then realised I'd been made a complete fool of. I went back the next night and she apologised and said she'd tried to get in but they wouldn't let her. I was waiting outside for most of it so I'm pretty sure I was taken for a right ride.

Haha... it seems like I'm supposed to always be close but no cigar with punting. It's been on my mind for years and I've never quite made it over the line. I spent all of last week in a terrible mood and I can't help feeling it was down to the missed punt, but then I also think my mood would have been all over the place had it happened as well. I'm just in a bit of a no win situation I think. I love my wife, don't want to leave or hurt her, but need something real to tide me over. It's a ruddy nightmare if I'm honest. Some days I think I definitely need to do it, and others I wonder what I've been thinking. I guess we'll see what happens. I think if I'm going to do it, it's going to happen soon given that I've now committed to an appointment. I'm veering towards an independent as I'd like the location to be nice and clean, and it seems like some of the better one's use nice apartments and serviced hotel rooms, but that means I've got to sort my IP problem on AW.