Should guys inform WG of this site?

[mrfishyfoo]

If I see someone you have given a positive review for then I hope to enjoy a similar effort, not because we have a UKP name but we have paper with the queen's head on! There will always be different opinions on looks and what is important which will mean we don't enjoy one another's preferences but essentially if a pro$$ie likes, ABC with Tom then Dick and Abdul should expect the same. If she doesn't like Dick then she's in the wrong game.

I've "said" it before and I'll keep "saying" it.

ALL PRO$$IES SHOULD APPROACH ALL PUNTS AS IF THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE REVIEWED.

That way they are ontop of their game at all times and they are consistantly providing what for them is their A game.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

I've "said" it before and I'll keep "saying" it.

ALL PRO$$IES SHOULD APPROACH ALL PUNTS AS IF THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE REVIEWED.

That way they are ontop of their game at all times and they are consistantly providing what for them is their A game.

Yes but the point of this thread seems to be debate on whether one should tell a WG we might review them on UKP to get a better service. You are correct that it shouldn't be necessary but don't people think they might actually get a deliberately worse service if they go in saying such a thing as a kick off?

Imagine if you were a waiter for example and someone sat down saying 'ahh yes well I am on Tripadvisor so, you know ... ' do you think you'd give them a better service or passive aggressively think jesus what a nob? And then really have to struggle to give the good service you were planning on anyway because of what a dick they've shown themselves to be?

[Lilywhite]

I've "said" it before and I'll keep "saying" it.

ALL PRO$$IES SHOULD APPROACH ALL PUNTS AS IF THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE REVIEWED.

That way they are ontop of their game at all times and they are consistantly providing what for them is their A game.

Absolutely. I speak to loads of girls who hate this site with a passion, which shows the reach it has now.
If I hadn't started reading properly 4 years ago I would have no clue what punters wanted. I was a totally shit hooker.
Reading the reviews of myself and others has been eye opening, and now I expect every single client to be a potential reviewer so try to be consistent all the time. This site isn't going to go away, so we may as well up our game or give up.

[scutty brown]

I wouldn't dream of telling a girl about this site, but I reviewed one yesterday and someone else did. I haven't a problem with her seeing my comments: in her post (since deleted by admin) she shows her annoyance at me, but at the same time more or less confirms all my criticisms and comments. Its probably good that she saw what I had to say: either she will learn, or she will fuck up further.
However, what bothers me is what was the motive of the member here who told her? There's no way that as a non-member she could have found that review herself within 24 hours. Someone with EAS tried to curry favour by telling her.
However, maybe there is a case for telling all girls anyway after the event: "you've been given a shit review, here it is, live with it and learn". Its in both our interests and the girls that service is improved, so maybe the more we make them aware of our constructive criticism the better.
However I would totally disagree with any thought of announcing before a punt that a girl was being reviewed - that smacks too much of bribery / coercion and downright dishonesty.

[Scotpunter]

Absolutely. I speak to loads of girls who hate this site with a passion, which shows the reach it has now.
If I hadn't started reading properly 4 years ago I would have no clue what punters wanted. I was a totally shit hooker.
Reading the reviews of myself and others has been eye opening, and now I expect every single client to be a potential reviewer so try to be consistent all the time. This site isn't going to go away, so we may as well up our game or give up.

What a great approach to have. Kudos to you for being so sensible. As you seem to appreciate. It is a service industry. It is also a relatively expensive thing for most of us. So making sure the lady you are meeting is going to provide the service she advertises is important.

I think the thing that needs to change in a lot of peoples mind. Is the punter/escort relationship. None of us should think it is seedy. Nor should we think less or each other because of what each other does. To my mind it is no different than seeking any other service.

[sparkus]

I've "said" it before and I'll keep "saying" it.

ALL PRO$$IES SHOULD APPROACH ALL PUNTS AS IF THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE REVIEWED.

That way they are ontop of their game at all times and they are consistantly providing what for them is their A game.

Exceptions here: women working in legitimate massage shops who could lose the shop its licence or their job?

Also... I always post reviews/comments without reference to days if I can, in case the SP self-identifies me (some have said they're fed up of being reviewed on here).  Sometimes a week after the event.

[Scotpunter]

Exceptions here: women working in legitimate massage shops who could lose the shop its licence or their job?

Also... I always post reviews/comments without reference to days if I can, in case the SP self-identifies me (some have said they're fed up of being reviewed on here).  Sometimes a week after the event.

Thats's like a restaurant being fed up of being reviewed on Trip Advisor. A good restaurant providing good food and service will be delighted to be reviewed on Trip advisor. A good escort should feel the same. Only one providing a poor service should fear this site.

[Brazilian Martian]

Absolutely. I speak to loads of girls who hate this site with a passion, which shows the reach it has now.
If I hadn't started reading properly 4 years ago I would have no clue what punters wanted. I was a totally shit hooker.
Reading the reviews of myself and others has been eye opening, and now I expect every single client to be a potential reviewer so try to be consistent all the time. This site isn't going to go away, so we may as well up our game or give up.

What reaction do you get from fellow pro$$ies when you tell them you're a member yourself.

[HarryZZ]

It was a WG that told me about this site, she was surprised I didn't know about it and hadn't done more research and was very proud of her reviews. It was my first ever punt.

[bigmanbigman]

Absolutely. I speak to loads of girls who hate this site with a passion, which shows the reach it has now.
If I hadn't started reading properly 4 years ago I would have no clue what punters wanted. I was a totally shit hooker.
Reading the reviews of myself and others has been eye opening, and now I expect every single client to be a potential reviewer so try to be consistent all the time. This site isn't going to go away, so we may as well up our game or give up.

to anyone who cant see it this is a type of self touting and free advertising of a wg .
No wg likes critics but they may have to take some notice of it !

[Hertsgent]

This subject has been done several times on the board, and every time there is a very high majority that say to keep UKP discussion amongst punters.

It is very difficult not to assume some type of sinister/selfish motive for the suggestion of mentioning UKP upfront - discount, extra services, non normal punt etc . Very difficult.....

It is also highly unlikely that conversation would come up on a first meet with a WG

[Lilywhite]

What reaction do you get from fellow pro$$ies when you tell them you're a member yourself.

I don't usually mention my membership.
The people who do know I'm on here, try to tell me their clients would never come on ukp and no one even knows about it... suuuure.

[sparkus]

Thats's like a restaurant being fed up of being reviewed on Trip Advisor. A good restaurant providing good food and service will be delighted to be reviewed on Trip advisor. A good escort should feel the same. Only one providing a poor service should fear this site.

But what if they're providing extras when the shop owner says they shouldn't? 

I admit, one of the women who have said this owns the shop!

[Benjboy87]

It seems to me that lots of WGs think that a bad review on here won't effect future business for them.

Perhaps they are naive? But he fact remains if a WG provides a poor service then sooner or later it's going to catch up with them.

I think ladies need to know how many use the sight. If I was a successful WG I would probably advertise the sight as a point of reference to my service. As a hotel or restaurant would advertise their rating on trip advisor.

The problem many WGs have is they are just in it to make a quick buck and don't care about the service they provide.
The problem they then have is it's a hard business to get out off. They become custom to the money but then business dries up and they wonder why.

Perhaps if these girls had a strategy then they would be better off, we would be better off because of more consistent service. Everyone's a winner.

[sparkus]

It's probably worth a separate thread as I think the rules of the game are different for women working in what are supposed to be (i.e. are licensed by council) TCM shops (yes, I know there's people on here who think they're 'prossies like the rest').

I think it's entirely fair game for SPs working in the very indiscreet massage shops near Soho to expect to be commented on (they probably seriously don't give a shit) but I can understand why women working in TCM are narked about their names appearing on here (doesn't stop me reviewing them, just pointing out they're narked).

The reasons I've been given for them being narked:

- the shop has a policy of no-extras (to observe licensing issues) so could get fired
- men turning up demanding extras beyond what they want to provide (oral, FS), more just based on them being on here rather than them actually providing that
- a quite infamous shop manageress who has been all over London and the comments about her weight/age (upsetting for her, but not really a legit gripe like the above two)

Not trying to white knight and I did side-step the accusation from them, but I can see why they don't want to be publicly outed (in the same way we probably wouldn't - imagine if prossies got to 'review' us!) as they're not avowed SPs working in brothels or on AW.

I wonder if Isabella of CXR Everwell has ever Googled herself?

[Lilywhite]

It seems to me that lots of WGs think that a bad review on here won't effect future business for them.

If I was a successful WG I would probably advertise the sight as a point of reference to my service.

I did this on my profile, but linked it directly as "A useful reference for Punters", unfortunately due to ... 'public scrutiny' at the start of this year I felt some people I might have guided to the site from my profile may make Admin's job more difficult, so took it down.

[cueball]

It seems to me that lots of WGs think that a bad review on here won't effect future business for them.

Agreed but as you say it catches up with them. Look how many bin their old profiles and start new ones once they've started getting a bad reputation on ukp.

Ukp has more clout than a lot realise or give it credit for.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

It seems to me that lots of WGs think that a bad review on here won't effect future business for them.

Perhaps they are naive? But he fact remains if a WG provides a poor service then sooner or later it's going to catch up with them.

I think ladies need to know how many use the sight. If I was a successful WG I would probably advertise the sight as a point of reference to my service. As a hotel or restaurant would advertise their rating on trip advisor.

The problem many WGs have is they are just in it to make a quick buck and don't care about the service they provide.
The problem they then have is it's a hard business to get out off. They become custom to the money but then business dries up and they wonder why.

Perhaps if these girls had a strategy then they would be better off, we would be better off because of more consistent service. Everyone's a winner.

Any WG thinking bad reviews (PLURAL!) on here won't affect their business is welcome to their delusion. I have to admit that one bad review in isolation won't necessary put me off - e.g. there are girls on here with dozens of positives and only one or two negatives, I always think on balance of probability I'm going to side with the positive camp and have no problem seeing them.

But if it's 0 positive and 1 negative, or maybe 3 positive 2 negative or something like that, I'll probably think twice.

I can't remember who it was but one WG on here once got to the point of having 0 positives and about 5 or 6 negatives haha - no idea how people knew of this site enough to review but were still going to check her out after 3 or 4 negatives!

[bigmanbigman]

I did this on my profile, but linked it directly as "A useful reference for Punters", unfortunately due to ... 'public scrutiny' at the start of this year I felt some people I might have guided to the site from my profile may make Admin's job more difficult, so took it down.

more self advertising .

[Lilywhite]

more self advertising .

Sorry you felt that, I'll not reply again.

[Benjboy87]

Sorry you felt that, I'll not reply again.

Just ignore him.

[Marmalade]

more self advertising .

because she advertised UKP? 

[Brazilian Martian]

Sorry you felt that, I'll not reply again.

You have posted some good points on this thread dnt let him run you off, imo i did not see it as touting

[Happyjose]

You have posted some good points on this thread dnt let him run you off, imo i did not see it as touting

Never fear, she's thick skinned.....

[Marmalade]

Never fear, she's thick skinned.....

Well for a prossie that has been on UKP for five years without getting banned she must be ... and generally and more importantly ... contributing to the ethos of the site. She gets fair criticism if she steps out of line, as a prossie she has to watch herself on here, but so far she seems to have taken it on the chin so no, I don't think we need to worry. 

[mrfishyfoo]

Absolutely. I speak to loads of girls who hate this site with a passion, which shows the reach it has now.
If I hadn't started reading properly 4 years ago I would have no clue what punters wanted. I was a totally shit hooker.
Reading the reviews of myself and others has been eye opening, and now I expect every single client to be a potential reviewer so try to be consistent all the time. This site isn't going to go away, so we may as well up our game or give up.

 

Shame that the silly little girl I gave a red card to early this week deoesn't understand this. 

[Happyjose]

Shame that the silly little girl I gave a red card to early this week deoesn't understand this. 

I presume that's the review that's been read over 2000 times so far?

That's the first thing a prossie should consider before spouting shite about a reviewer on here. Over 2000 potential customers reading her anti-punter drivel

[Benjboy87]

I presume that's the review that's been read over 2000 times so far?

That's the first thing a prossie should consider before spouting shite about a reviewer on here. Over 2000 potential customers reading her anti-punter drivel

Absolutely

If girls had the right business mind they could do very well.

Problem is most are naive and stupid.

[mrfishyfoo]

I presume that's the review that's been read over 2000 times so far?

That's the first thing a prossie should consider before spouting shite about a reviewer on here. Over 2000 potential customers reading her anti-punter drivel

Indeed it is.

Apparently I'm (NOT) a very nice man. 

[Happyjose]

Indeed it is.

Apparently I'm (NOT) a very nice man. 

What, after you shaved your bollocks as well?

Ungrateful bitch

[mrfishyfoo]

What, after you shaved your bollocks as well?

Ungrateful bitch

I'd even brushed my teeth and swilled with mouthwash. 

Oh well I can't expect to click with everyone BUT at £2 per minute I shouldn't have to. 

[Marmalade]

And it's all very good if prossies want to read this site and learn. I don't see that it's punters' duty to inform them.

[Flunt]

I'd even brushed my teeth and swilled with mouthwash. 

Oh well I can't expect to click with everyone BUT at £2 per minute I shouldn't have to. 

I don't click with any woman I meet, that's why I pay pro$$ies! If I ever meet a pro$$ie I click with I should ask if it's free - that'll stop the clicking.

[Marmalade]

Most prossies do lots of clicking -- all of it on their laptops. (duh!)

[Scotpunter]

But what if they're providing extras when the shop owner says they shouldn't? 

I admit, one of the women who have said this owns the shop!

I'm assuming 'the shop' you mention is the escort? If so it shouldn't matter a jot what she is doing with one punter providing it is legal.

[Scotpunter]

Apologies it seems you are on about saunas. I think the rest of us are on about independents in most cases. Most saunas list the services they provide themselves. If the girl deviates from them that is her decision. The only thing that might piss a sauna owner off would be a girl providing bareback. That is something I think most of us want to know so we can avoid her.

[mikexxlong]

as said in posts on this thread
and other posts on other threads about this kind topic

not a good idea telling whores about this site
 especially telling them your a member of this forum which just smacks of being a cunt
and trying to gain 'special privileges' and so on ,
even if thats not the case you dont really  want them linking you to the reviews for many different reasons!

[sparkus]

Apologies it seems you are on about saunas. I think the rest of us are on about independents in most cases. Most saunas list the services they provide themselves. If the girl deviates from them that is her decision. The only thing that might piss a sauna owner off would be a girl providing bareback. That is something I think most of us want to know so we can avoid her.

I'm talking about Chinese medicine shops (TCMs), not saunas.

[Scotpunter]

I'm talking about Chinese medicine shops (TCMs), not saunas.

I don't know what they are I'm afraid. Don't think I've ever seen them mentioned here so they should be safe enough.

[sparkus]

I don't know what they are I'm afraid. Don't think I've ever seen them mentioned here so they should be safe enough.

One of these: External Link/Members Only

If you make it to London, go to Everwell on Charing Cross Road and book Isabella.  Her head massage, BJ and foot rub is something to behold.

[Punter121212]

Its a place for honest feedback so they should be aware.


Hidden Image/Members Only

[puntingpumping1920]

as said in posts on this thread
and other posts on other threads about this kind topic

not a good idea telling whores about this site
 especially telling them your a member of this forum which just smacks of being a cunt
and trying to gain 'special privileges' and so on ,
even if thats not the case you dont really  want them linking you to the reviews for many different reasons!

 
I agree with this statement.
 
I only said this earlier in this thread: "I would only inform them of the site if the whore asked me advice on how to profit more on the business."
 
As I think prostitutes should engage in online punting communities, such as UKP and UKE, as it can raise custom.
 
One shinning example is EnglishRebecca. Her engaging in punting communities has probably increased her custom.

[Benjboy87]

 
I agree with this statement.
 
I only said this earlier in this thread: "I would only inform them of the site if the whore asked me advice on how to profit more on the business."
 
As I think prostitutes should engage in online punting communities, such as UKP and UKE, as it can raise custom.
 
One shinning example is EnglishRebecca. Her engaging in punting communities has probably increased her custom.

I agree.

Surprise surprise I know.

Girls who research there clientele do far better than those who create a quick account and charge well over the odds.

[vw]

I simply do not have the time nor the inclination to argue the point, especially with people who seem to have large chunks of their days available for typing diatribes which don't add, simply bore.

 

CTID

Maybe if you stopped signing every post then you would have time.

Is the CITD brand stamps all over the forum so prossies can find you easier on google to check you are suitable while you have a shower?

[Marmalade]

Maybe if you stopped signing every post then you would have time.

Is the CITD brand stamps all over the forum so prossies can find you easier on google to check you are suitable while you have a shower?

I gave him a very polite reply four pages ago. Now I'm convinced he's probably just a cunt. CITD = Cunt In The Doghouse.

He doesn't have much time "to argue the point". Funny that. I don't have any time for punters who put prossies higher in the pecking order than fellow punters. A bit surprised he's still here.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

As a slight side note, I've never really understood women who hate UKP on a point of principle - up to and including those who will openly say they won't see UKP members. No acknowledgement of the inevitable differences that exist between members of any community. It's a site on the side of the punter, what does it say about any woman who would hate that?

It'd be like me hating SAAFE as a concept. It exists to help women out, place to share advice and ideas, just like here for punters. That's fine, I wouldn't refuse to see a woman for being on SAAFE so what's the problem? Plus it's kind of an unenforceable rule unless blokes for some reason tell WGs they are members when booking or during the booking?

[cueball]

As a slight side note, I've never really understood women who hate UKP

The women that hate ukp hate it because it's honest, they cannot control/vito what is said and usually provide a shit service that they want to keep quiet so it doesn't effect their business.

The women don't have to like ukp but they should accept it and accept its our site where we the punters share info/recommendations and warnings.

Just like we accept saafe for the lasses.

Any lass that has negative ukp statements on her profile is instant bin fodder for me, I view her as unreasonable, pig headed and selfish.... that invariably makes a shit punt.

We're the paying customers and its a God send having a site to share and acquire valuable info.

[myothernameis]

Hi all

Quick question. Is it worth pointing out to WG about this site?
I've often wondered if they are aware such a site for punters exist and that a neg review on here could easily tarnish there reputation.

Thoughts?

All depends on the sort of reviews she gets, 1 negative, 10 positive, she then decides she wont see anyone from ukp, which some escorts all ready do. so best keep it to your self

One escort in particular used to be like this, Kendra from Glasgow, she was getting a bad reputation on here, and she knew about it, and wasn't happy, and wasn't willing to see any of the guys from ukp, but now that's changed, she will see us

[CityTillIDie]

I gave him a very polite reply four pages ago. Now I'm convinced he's probably just a cunt. CITD = Cunt In The Doghouse.

He doesn't have much time "to argue the point". Funny that. I don't have any time for punters who put prossies higher in the pecking order than fellow punters. A bit surprised he's still here.

I've ummed and aahed over this for a little while.

I simply don't get people like you. You troll and wind people up constantly with bitter and generally unfunny rejoinders and you are one of those for whom your opinion is fact. You feel able to sprinkle your opinions/ facts on all manner of topics, so well-versed are you. And because you've a lot of time free to trawl Wikipedia and anoint us mortals with your knowledge you are in your mind so much greater and your opinions so much more valuable, your bile so much funnier.

I joined UKP in February last year and have always tried faithfully to contribute honestly and fairly, wherever I can. I've done some reviews and again I've tried my utmost to give as accurate an account as I can. I've had scores of questions on PM about Barcelona following my detailed reviews on that topic, also many PMs on York and a couple of medical issues. I've exchanged numbers with some members and got together for drinks with some.

My point is that I've done all I can to contribute my share. So if I give an opinion I'm not particularly impressed if some Scottish troll cannot simply civilly explain that his own opinion varies; rather, he has to resort to his little pile of obscenities. And also unsubtly hint that I should be banned from UKP.

For the past few weeks, since my last post on this thread, I have continued to read UKP. I've read reviews and questions, followed all the usual threads that I like, had several punts. What I haven't done, until this morning, is type a single word on here. I've not reviewed punts, some in York, one in Leeds, which would have proven useful especially to those wishing to avoid BB, as two girls tried to climb straight on in the heat of the moment. Blah blah blah

Fact is, I'm not prepared to listen to shit from the likes of you, Marmalade. And who loses? All I miss out on by not logging on is the opportunity to contribute, something I've always tried to do earnestly and honestly. I've saved HOURS every day by not typing stuff for the likes of you to talk shit about.

One more thing: Cunt In The Doghouse would be CITD

Moron!

CTID

 

[vw]

I've ummed and aahed over this for a little while.

I simply don't get people like you. You troll and wind people up constantly with bitter and generally unfunny rejoinders and you are one of those for whom your opinion is fact. You feel able to sprinkle your opinions/ facts on all manner of topics, so well-versed are you. And because you've a lot of time free to trawl Wikipedia and anoint us mortals with your knowledge you are in your mind so much greater and your opinions so much more valuable, your bile so much funnier.

I joined UKP in February last year and have always tried faithfully to contribute honestly and fairly, wherever I can. I've done some reviews and again I've tried my utmost to give as accurate an account as I can. I've had scores of questions on PM about Barcelona following my detailed reviews on that topic, also many PMs on York and a couple of medical issues. I've exchanged numbers with some members and got together for drinks with some.

My point is that I've done all I can to contribute my share. So if I give an opinion I'm not particularly impressed if some Scottish troll cannot simply civilly explain that his own opinion varies; rather, he has to resort to his little pile of obscenities. And also unsubtly hint that I should be banned from UKP.

For the past few weeks, since my last post on this thread, I have continued to read UKP. I've read reviews and questions, followed all the usual threads that I like, had several punts. What I haven't done, until this morning, is type a single word on here. I've not reviewed punts, some in York, one in Leeds, which would have proven useful especially to those wishing to avoid BB, as two girls tried to climb straight on in the heat of the moment. Blah blah blah

Fact is, I'm not prepared to listen to shit from the likes of you, Marmalade. And who loses? All I miss out on by not logging on is the opportunity to contribute, something I've always tried to do earnestly and honestly. I've saved HOURS every day by not typing stuff for the likes of you to talk shit about.

One more thing: Cunt In The Doghouse would be CITD

Moron!

CTID

 

So you took your football home instead of using the ignore feature that admin put n this site. 

No idea what Marm being scotch has to do with it?