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Offline Lucy chambers

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James999, I think perhaps you are just a clever troll. Have fun, there is no need to continue trying to talk to someone so clearly..well. I wont say  :lol:

Offline James999

James999, I think perhaps you are just a clever troll. Have fun, there is no need to continue trying to talk to someone so clearly..well. I wont say  :lol:

Thats it, try and swtich to the troll debate.........................

Just mind your head on the




Offline Wayang

Pretty picture James999 but what is your contribution?
We all know pigs fly particularly when anyone mentions WGs and taxes but those WGs have posted have made it very clear that they are legitimate in the eyes of HMRC.
The pigs might be more appropriate on other fora where known cheats operate.

Offline Strawberry

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Thanks Wayang.

I know this won't be a concern for punters, but I thought I'd add this anyway. I find it very interesting that it's only nasty texters, or those abusive to WGs are adamant that the role isn't taxable and that their line of work is illegal(they usually throw it in when they can't get their way). I actually think the two might go hand-in hand.

That's not to say there aren't nice guys who weren't aware you could pay tax as a WG, or that paying for sex is actually legal. They are quite surprised when I explain all is quite legit. They don't however use it as a 'point'.

Like any other self-employment, or cash business many will not declare their earnings and with this being a non-invoicing concern then possibly more so than anywhere else. I have however in a life before all of this come across some quite 'public' or 'official' business(s) and individuals who didn't pay any taxes. Trouble comes when they decide to buy a property, wish to invest some money or retire finding their state pension is much reduced since they didn't keep up their NI. In fact at anytime in the future anyone of us might require to claim benefits based on NI(God forbid of course).

Anyway if an individual wishes to do that that is up to them. What has this got to do with the OP anyway?

Offline Wayang

Thanks Wayang.
Anyway if an individual wishes to do that that is up to them. What has this got to do with the OP anyway?

I think I made the point you make in your last sentence way back in this thread but I can't be *rs*d to check.
I don't go to a WG to ask about her taxes - my view is, as with many self-employed people that I use, that the question of taxes is only of concern to the payee.
I go to a WG to have fun, and discussing money is not fun.

Offline Strawberry

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You know, I don't give a f*ck if a girl pays taxes or not and I don't expect her to be interested in my tax
position (I do pay taxes!).  It is totally irrelevant.

Twas here my lovely.

Offline Lucy chambers

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Ah, this tax debate, indeed the GUM debate, seems to always have a ''Whore, know your place'' contributor. One of the reasons I bother to pay tax is so I can smile to all and say actually, I am as legitimate as you.

When I first came to this forum I thought that the Putting in Place of Prostitutes was the ethos. I am highly pleased to say I was wrong. Unfortunately though, for some, we are ''The Other Species... :blush:

Ho hum  :D

Offline Strawberry

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Lucy

I think our breath is wasted. Why not just join the rest and say "Look we don't pay tax, and just lie about everything". It might save us a lot of exasperation.

Ah then we would be lying.

If you can't beat 'em join um. Now that's an idea. We've been told we can't possibly pay tax so let's not!!! Even better I'm going to ask the Rev for the tax I just paid to be returned - because a poster on UKP said it's not possible.

YAY!

Offline Lucy chambers

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Lucy

I think our breath is wasted. Why not just join the rest and say "Look we don't pay tax, and just lie about everything". It might save us a lot of exasperation.

Ah then we would be lying.

If you can't beat 'em join um. Now that's an idea. We've been told we can't possibly pay tax so let's not!!! Even better I'm going to ask the Rev for the tax I just paid to be returned - because a poster on UKP said it's not possible.

YAY!

We should also start smoking crack then, stay in bed until 5 and never answer email. That way we would be a size 6 and perfect..:), Oh, but old.

I keep being asked why I come here, it was to put imbeciles with tunnel vision right and have a chatter..i think I will stick to off topic for a while :)

Offline Strawberry

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I too Lucy. And the punters won't mind if we disappear either. Remember this forum isn't for our benefit. I just realise that there isn't anything you can say.

Just like all the various trades I know that none payers belong to...........I'd say a lot don't in a lot of professions. I mean pay their dues, or take heed of basic Health and Safety. We can only speak for ourselves and hope the guys do so regards us, as well as pay their way in society themselves.

Just think of those slush funds that we may find ourselves at the end of, of course we turn down anyone who may not be paying his dues.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2011, 12:16:47 AM by Strawberry »

Offline oconnor

Hasn't this thread gone off topic??  Let's be sensible here guys, if you want the girls to participate, then you should loosen up on the accusations.  The subject of whether or not tax is paid by working girls is boring.  Anyone who takes cash in their business - anyone who has any sense that is - will not declare it all, so that's pot and kettle.

Age and race anyone?

LOL

Offline James999

Hasn't this thread gone off topic?? 

Yes it is Connor, but when people bullshit sometimes they have to be called. what observers will note is how the mere mention of Tax sends prostitutes into a frenzy, very odd as if people do pay tat they may moan about it but it's not that emotive a subject.

The Phrase "me thinks she doth protest too much" springs to mind, you may also note that despite all the protestations and claims to provide  evidence nothing appeared. :D

So back on topic and let the girls finish those Tax returns for tomorrow  :scare:

Offline oconnor

So exactly what evidence did you want?  Baffled here ??

Offline Jimmyredcab

The subject of whether or not tax is paid by working girls is boring.

On the contrary, it always starts a lively debate, I was told by a moderator (ex) on another forum not to mention tax ----------- one of his many banned subjects. :rolleyes:

Offline oconnor

I get the lively debate idea, but wonder why it has to be hammered and hammered and hammered into the ground?   
I earn a decent wage.  I have no clue what other people earn, and do not care.  I have mates who work for cash.  One guy does landscaping and fencing, another cleans windows, gutters etc, neither of them declare everything they earn to the tax man. 
I don't see anyone picking on them in the pub over it, so why should it be done to death here.
I quite like seeing the girls post on a forum like this, but topics like this will drive them away, and then there will be a bunch of grumpy old men left, and the forum will lose its impact etc etc..

Offline James999

So exactly what evidence did you want?  Baffled here ??

I don't but when people make claims and offer proof and not supply it then the bullshit shows through.

Of Course I don't expect any working girl to put a copy of her tax return up her, For fucks sake most won't even know what one looks like, but if they choose to make these stupid claims!

I tried to step around the subject earlier when Caramel told us all about Gum clinics and made claims but she did not even know what condoms they supplied, then she started on tax, and insisted I elaborate, so I did,

If I kept telling you I was married to a 19 year old page 3 girl or something else unbelievable you may expect at some point evidence to back this up, the claims that workimg grls are all registered with HMRC is even more unbelievable.

 

Offline James999

I get the lively debate idea, but wonder why it has to be hammered and hammered and hammered into the ground?   
I earn a decent wage.  I have no clue what other people earn, and do not care.  I have mates who work for cash.  One guy does landscaping and fencing, another cleans windows, gutters etc, neither of them declare everything they earn to the tax man. 
I don't see anyone picking on them in the pub over it,

Because they don't stand in the pub preaching how they Pay tax and send in tax returns, they admit what they do.

I agree with you about who pays what is up to them, But if someone Bullshitted in the pub they would get called, so it is no different.

And you mention hammered, you pay tax, I pay tax (Fuck even Jimmy Pays tax, But do you really think the illegal Albanian minicab  driver pays tax?) so we can discuss it rationally, it is only when people Say they pay tax when they don't that they get so upset.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I get the lively debate idea, but wonder why it has to be hammered and hammered and hammered into the ground?   
I earn a decent wage.  I have no clue what other people earn, and do not care.  I have mates who work for cash.  One guy does landscaping and fencing, another cleans windows, gutters etc, neither of them declare everything they earn to the tax man. 
I don't see anyone picking on them in the pub over it.

Possibly because they are happy to admit that some of their earnings are "tax free", that is quite normal for self employed people who accept cash payments. ;)


Offline Mellow

snip...I have mates who work for cash.  One guy does landscaping and fencing, another cleans windows, gutters etc, neither of them declare everything they earn to the tax man.  ....snip
These "men in pubs" hardly ever earn 100 pounds per hour and I would hazard a guess that when the subject of tax evasion rears it's head over a pint of beer, the likelihood of them having a hissy fit over it is pretty small. We all know it goes on, but almost every hooker claims propriety. Perhaps we are fortunate here on UK punting to have 3 or 4 honest hookers contributing, but right now, my jury is out.

There is no point in warning any girl of your perceived feelings of being rejected, just turn up and if she refuses you on the grounds of anything that you see to be illegal, shout it from the rooftops. It is a nonsense to refuse on the grounds of race, gender, age or anything else for that matter.

Offline oconnor

If you are disabled you should say so.  Not to harp on about it too much, but everyone has a choice in life.  if you are not honest with the girl then you should not be surprised if she won't play.

Offline Jimmyredcab

It is a nonsense to refuse on the grounds of race, gender, age or anything else for that matter.

I strongly disagree, WG's offer a very personal service and have an absolute right to refuse to see anyone for any reason ------------- if a girl prefered not to see old mingers I would rather she just said so.

Albert

There are many escorts who refuse to see guys if they are ten years younger than them, and of course they have the right to deny anyone they think will be abussive, or not clean, or have a STD, someone who is pissed, or out of their head on drugs, the list is endless.

Albert

I don't but when people make claims and offer proof and not supply it then the bullshit shows through.
 

I tried to step around the subject earlier when Caramel told us all about Gum clinics

CarmenKisses has not made any posts on this thread, it was Fannytastico who first mentioned the GUM clinic...

Now please read the first line of the quote again......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Offline Jimmyredcab

There are many escorts who refuse to see guys if they are ten years younger than them, and of course they have the right to deny anyone they think will be abussive, or not clean, or have a STD, someone who is pissed, or out of their head on drugs, the list is endless.

I would go further ------------ a girl can refuse to see anyone for any reason, if she has had problems with certain races then that is a good reason to block them in future, I remember one Indian girl would not see Indian guys, you can't call that racist.


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