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Offline Strawberry

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It all depends on whether on not the items are soley for use within the business. I don't include make-up because I think that's too trivial, and also has quite a large proportion of personal benefit - so just isn't worth it. Condoms are allowable. I call them affectionately "personal protective equipment" - of course if you are only registered as a beauty therapist then you can't claim for these. One reason I decided to register under Escort, then I wouldn't be fabricating expenses applicable to another role.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Thanks for pointing it out.  I will double check with the helpline. No, I don't have an accountant.
I strongly advise you to get one, my accountant works out at £8 a week, he/she will advise you about what you can claim for and what is not allowed.
For example ---------- I am not allowed to claim for fines incured while working, parking fines etc are not tax deductable.
Clothes and shoes are a grey area, it could be argued that you would need clothes whatever you do for a living, a builder may be able to claim for "protective clothing".

Offline Marmalade

my accountant works out at £8 a week
Sounds a pretty good deal. About half to a third of what many small businesses pay.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Sounds a pretty good deal. About half to a third of what many small businesses pay.

That is because a taxi drivers accounts are fairly simple, no employees, no VAT. My yearly meeting with him lasts 30 minutes and half of that time is spent talking about holidays, he simply punches my figures into his computer and tells me what my tax liability is. ;)

Offline Strawberry

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The online SA form does that, however you need to know what you can and can't claim for. Which is what he will be able to tell you.

Offline Jimmyredcab

The online SA form does that, however you need to know what you can and can't claim for. Which is what he will be able to tell you.

The accountant can also give guidance if you are under declaring, they will want to know all your outgoings, if your mortgage and household bills exceed what you are declaring you risk being the subject of an investigation.

Offline GlasgowGirl

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I have one, and it is worth it I think.

If you can do an organised but basic record of incomings , expenses etc yourself and keep all receipts for expenses it is very easy for the accountant to work out and only costs me £150 per year.

Like Jimmy, most escorts or sex workers have relatively simple accounts - no employees etc.

I'm registered as a "holistic therapist" so cannot claim for sexy stuff, although I keep all receipts which could possibly be counted as expenses and the friendly accountant works through them all and tells me which ones can be claimed and which ones to bin.

I don't think accountants are allowed to help people "under-declare" though Jimmy, it could get the accountant personally into serious trouble as far as I'm aware, although I'm sure there are some who do.

Offline Mellow

I would imagine it would be difficult to claim major expenses such as Cocaine and Alcohol against the income stream. Ask your accountant for some help, it's always the best approach

Offline Wayang

You don't give up on your pre-conception of an alcoholic drug taking WG do you?
Drug taking in WGs I would hazard, repeating myself, is no greater and no less, than the general drug taking/alcoholism of the general demographic group.
How many posters on here are aware of drug taking/alcohoism in the WGs they see?

Albert

I would say in the world of parlours and escorts, that more of their clients are alcoholics and soft drug users, than the women who work in the industry.

Offline Fannytastico

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As I said earlier I don't have a problem, and the subject of not paying tax will only upset those that don't pay tax, so if it riles the girls that is their problem between them and the taxman.

You seem intent on dragging the subject out and causing your self further upset, paying tax (for thsoe that pay it) is not such an emotive subject.

What do you want me to do, pull apart your responses and show how things don't add up, then that would be classed as being personal, it is not personal, the HMRC know most Prostitutes do not declare & pay correct tax, and they do not operate within the legal framework of a business. The HMRC have special teams "hidden ecoomy teams" to investigate such matters. Ranting on a message board will not change that.

What do you expect them to do, say oh well fantastico posted on a message board and  said says girls pay tax so it's ok lads we can close that department, what next ask prisoners if they are innocent (most say they are) and then we can close the prisons.



You were the one dragging the subject out.

You also asked about my mortgage, mortgage provider, business rates and my GUM visits.  I was more pissed off by the sweeping statements (as I pointed out earlier).  These things are important to me, and for my own benefit - I can longer give a monkeys about your thoughts.    It is irritating having someone making sweeping statements.  But post what you like as I won't respond any longer.

Just be happy with your druggie, benefit cheat, alcholic hookers and leave me be.   :music:

Offline Marmalade

I would imagine it would be difficult to claim major expenses such as Cocaine and Alcohol against the income stream. Ask your accountant for some help, it's always the best approach
Do you have any information to suggest that good alcohol and cocaine are available at punts with Glasgow Girl, Mellow? Do you have a preference for them?

I have nothing against either substance. I think it would even be possible to add a section to the AW Guide on how to recognise WGs that cater to such tastes.

On the other hand, I don't see any clues in GG's profile to suggest she is into it. In fact it's a pretty divisive issue. So the unsupported suggestion sounds a bit dumb to me. Rather as if a WG said, "I suppose you'll know all about hardsports."

I am sure there are plenty of crack-cocaine, pox-encrusted, criminally-minded whores out there if that be your taste. And you have every right to seek them out. Nothing's off-limits. But this thread seems to be turning into a "let's slag off the slags" thread.

All we need is a few slags to actually register and post. Pitching at anything with an SP profile is a bit fucking sad. Or did I pick you up wrong??

Most of the WGs on UKP have demonstrated their interest in seeing things from the punter's point of view. They're still fair game if anyone shows them to be piss-taking. But unsubstantiated mud-slinging strikes me as counter-productive. If we welcome WGs on here that support the UKP ethos, which is current UKP policy, I see no point in chasing them away for the likes of the bellyaching men-bashers prevalent on other sites.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 07:35:57 PM by Marmalade »

Offline Marmalade

I would say in the world of parlours and escorts, that more of their clients are alcoholics and soft drug users, than the women who work in the industry.

Certainly it's a common complaint. I've heard many a WG sick to death of refusing requests for punts with drugs. I've seen many profiles feel they have to put it in bold that use of, or requests for drugs will not be tolerated. Yet I imagine there must be some that do to fuel the requests. Maybe it's more common in England, I don't know. I imagine punters seeking such things too openly may have been punting in certain circles that many others avoid.

I think punters should avoid a hooker that is strung out on drugs, addicted to drugs, or uses needles. But if I wanted to do a line of coke, smoke a joint, or get drunk in my own time, I wouldn't think it was other people's business frankly. I judge an SP on how well she does her job and gives me satisfaction at a fair price. I do know one or two WGs who do hash but they are easily recognised. I've even pointed out girls that seem off their face at saunas for instance. I don't make assumptions about others any more than I would for most other professions.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 07:47:19 PM by Marmalade »

Offline James999

These things are important to me, and for my own benefit

Benefits are important for many working girls.

Offline GlasgowGirl

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I would imagine it would be difficult to claim major expenses such as Cocaine and Alcohol against the income stream. Ask your accountant for some help, it's always the best approach

If indeed that was aimed at me, you are an idiot.
I hardly even drink, but then again I don't need to be justifying anything to you, do I?
That is all

Offline softlad

How many posters on here are aware of drug taking/alcohoism in the WGs they see?

Sounds like a good idea for a poll.  ;)
 

You don't give up on your pre-conception of an alcoholic drug taking WG do you?
Drug taking in WGs I would hazard, repeating myself, is no greater and no less, than the general drug taking/alcoholism of the general demographic group.
How many posters on here are aware of drug taking/alcohoism in the WGs they see?

me, but i dont let it bother me.  I have taken enough drugs to sink a battleship, although it is'nt something to be proud of.

People reactly differently to diffrent substances and different situations so it is uneducated and ignorant to tar everyone with the same brush.

imo

Offline James999

You don't give up on your pre-conception of an alcoholic drug taking WG do you?
Drug taking in WGs I would hazard, repeating myself, is no greater and no less, than the general drug taking/alcoholism of the general demographic group.
How many posters on here are aware of drug taking/alcohoism in the WGs they see?

I have, loads of times, walked out on at least Two seperate girls when I saw their syringes & gear on the bathroom side, have experienced meets where the girl was drunk (walked again) and know of many w girls that are alcoholics.

Weed / Gras, it is quite common to walk in and the girl has clearly just finished a joint, I'm ok with that and tend not to walk.

You say preconceived, that would mean someone decided their view before they experienced the industry, I had no preconceptions, my views are based on experience and events.

Is drug / drink abuse higher in the industry than outside the industry, yes for sure, but believe what you like.

Offline Marmalade

I have, loads of times, walked out on at least Two seperate girls when I saw their syringes & gear on the bathroom side, have experienced meets where the girl was drunk (walked again)
Names and details please. Feel free to name and shame
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Weed / Gras, it is quite common to walk in and the girl has clearly just finished a joint, I'm ok with that and tend not to walk.
No, it might be quite common in your experience. Maybe you're just crap at selecting escorts. I've certainly come across it, but on a handful of occasions from many hundreds of punts. A handful is not the same as 'common' in my book.
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my views are based on experience and events.
sounds like some pretty shit experience - genuinely sorry to hear that - maybe you could learn something here. Either way, I'd like to hear more if your experiences (dates, places, names of girls) rather than your views - which seem distinctly at odds with mine.

Offline James999

No problems with differing views Marmalade, and the above was a response to a question asking experiences.

As for names of girls etc, that is something that would be stupid to out in an open forum and leave the owner of the board (Nik) in a very unpleasant legal position, so discretion is best there. Again believe me or don't, I did not say a girl flew to the moon on a swan or anything so amazing, I stated I had seen syringe etc on at least two occassions.

You sound as if you are saying we should all allign our views to yours?
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Offline Marmalade

So you saw a syringe on two occasions. And that makes it common does it??

If I visited a slut-hole in the backstreets of Derby and saw a syringe lying on the floor I would have no problem saying so and it would helpfully warn other punters. If you have information you can reasonably back up you can forward it to the mods if you don't want to post it. We'd examine it and consider it's credibility or otherwise.

Offline James999

So you saw a syringe on two occasions. And that makes it common does it??

If I visited a slut-hole in the backstreets of Derby and saw a syringe lying on the floor I would have no problem saying so and it would helpfully warn other punters. If you have information you can reasonably back up you can forward it to the mods if you don't want to post it. We'd examine it and consider it's credibility or otherwise.

So what information am I likely / possibly able to have? DNA / Pictures a video? There is no evidence that could possibly be produced to forward to mods, but as I said earlier believe it or believe it not, Wayang asked for experiences and they were given, why is it such a big thing or are you just trying to appear a white Knight?

Offline Lucy chambers

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So what information am I likely / possibly able to have? DNA / Pictures a video? There is no evidence that could possibly be produced to forward to mods, but as I said earlier believe it or believe it not, Wayang asked for experiences and they were given, why is it such a big thing or are you just trying to appear a white Knight?

Nah, Im curious too, if only to avoid the pits you evidently frequent. So, in what area and when, and with who, would be relevant.

Offline Marmalade

Wayang asked for experiences and they were given, why is it such a big thing or are you just trying to appear a white Knight?
Wayang might have asked for experiences but you didn't give them. Even if you don't want to give exact details, let's have a rough idea of where and when you saw the syringes and where you got the girl's contact info. No, I'm not a white knight. I don't give a fuck. And neither do I fuck any WGs on here. I simply like information that is of use to punters. That means information. Field reports. That sort of thing.

Offline Mellow

So what information am I likely / possibly able to have? DNA / Pictures a video? There is no evidence that could possibly be produced to forward to mods, but as I said earlier believe it or believe it not, Wayang asked for experiences and they were given, why is it such a big thing or are you just trying to appear a white Knight?
James, this is like pissing in the wind. There are people out there that are hardly street-wise to see the truth. These wannabee fluffies would prefer to see and believe that Drugs, Alcohol, lying and cheating don't exist in the paid sex industry. They jump up and down, ask for evidence and as is the nature of the scourge, can't see it.

Opposite where I work, 3 blokes would congregate and together would get into a car and go for a quick spin. They had been doing this for at least 3 years before one day last year, the car was searched by a traffic cop. Half ounce of white was found. They all blamed each other and to this day, all three claim that they've never taken drugs and that the court got it wrong. Evidence is hardly an issue here.

My own ex-wife, yes a wg has had her children taken by social services and placed into care. I fought hard and two now stay with me. She has spent over 1 month in the Priory on three occasions, tried to top herself on numerous occasions, spent time in prison for various crimes including class A drug use  and yet, still goes on message boards taking the moral high-ground much to the delight of her fluffy clients. I have in my possession court orders, further steps notices,non-molestation orders et al all of which demand her sobriety.

The link between her working name and her real name doesn't exist, so how would I. with the absolutely perfect evidence to hand, prove anything.


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