Miss KDD - Outcall

[claretandblue]

I didn't ask for it you need to read posts correctly 

Wind your neck in,its you who needs to read things more carefully,I never suggested you did ask for bb.

 I am merely pointing out that someone who has seen her twice is unlikely to have built up the level of rapport for bb to even be a discussion point whereas it could be a different ballgame after lots of meets

[mcgee121]

I have no doubt that she has done some barebacking before just by the nature of her services.  She does literally everything except scat.  How the fuck does a girl train herself to suck a dick until she vomits?  On an overnight, pissed with a regular; protection can be forgotten and I think any regular with a bit of smooth talk (and an extra fee, of course) would be able to bareback her.  Besides, not catching viruses, no one wants an unwanted pregnancy, right?  It's all about negligence and the excitement of the moment why people don't use protection and she must have had countless condom accidents (1) because she likes rough sex.  She also, works with studs (aka sex workers) whom SPs regard as "cleaner" than punters which generally is not true because the studs have more risky sex lives.  These are the kind of guys they fuck on camera bareback.  You think she isn't fucking these guys on the low?  I saw one SP (External Link/Members Only) take a creampie and do rimming in one of those low rate Fake Taxi pornos (services she doesn't offer to punters).  How much was she earning really to make her do all that?  What's concerning to me is if this stuff is leaking out then that means she does it a lot and is therefore one to avoid.  Just like they lie to their friends and families about how they earn a living they would have no qualms about lying to us about their sexual habits if it's damaging to their image.

PSE escorts give high thrills but are by definition higher risk.

1 The condom split one time with me when fucking an escort and she wasn't freaked out at all.  I was a bit paranoid that I got something but I'm okay so far    .

[Lilywhite]

  How the fuck does a girl train herself to suck a dick until she vomits? 

Happens to me whenever someone face fucks me. It's just a gag reflex thing.

[Justanotheruser]

Happens to me whenever someone face fucks me. It's just a gag reflex thing.

Yeah it's really not a case of training. Just a fortunate or unfortunate side of throat fucking someone. It's happened when I've fucked WGs and in real life enough to know that.

[finn5555]

Wind your neck in,its you who needs to read things more carefully,I never suggested you did ask for bb.

 I am merely pointing out that someone who has seen her twice is unlikely to have built up the level of rapport for bb to even be a discussion point whereas it could be a different ballgame after lots of meets

No worries fella i forgive you 

[finn5555]

Happens to me whenever someone face fucks me. It's just a gag reflex thing.

Enjoyable then 

[claretandblue]

No worries fella i forgive you 

ditto , think the real story here is who is going to pitch up next with an allegation either way!

[hendrix]

What's concerning to me is if this stuff is leaking out then that means she does it a lot and is therefore one to avoid. 

This is "leaking out" on the unproven allegation made by an obsessed weirdo, so there's that to consider

[mcgee121]

This is "leaking out" on the unproven allegation made by an obsessed weirdo, so there's that to consider

Yeah true.  There is nothing concrete yet.

[Differential]

Anyone able to describe her facially i.e. Celeb she most reminds you of?

[dav1d66]

I personally disagree with the OP, imo she does have facial similarities to Kirsten Dunst - roundish face with high cheekbones, similar complexion and skin tone and very bright eyes that are delightfully lustful as she is looking up at you from her knees!
Also imo similar features to that of Sam Faiers from TOWIE.

[hendrix]

Until you provide something more concrete, like how much someone got charged for BB, or name girls that have offered it, I'll assume this is just you or your ex Maxes "friend" shit-stirring

Strange. ClarkeOfTheCourse quite rightly asks for evidence when it comes to baseless accusations of bb against Maxes Angels girls - but is quite happy to make the same shitty accusations against a highly successful indy (as he himself says) on at least two occasions on UKP, before skulking off.

What's that about "Clark"? Or should I call you Max?

[Brazilian Martian]

Strange. ClarkeOfTheCourse quite rightly asks for evidence when it comes to baseless accusations of bb against Maxes Angels girls - but is quite happy to make the same shitty accusations against a highly successful indy (as he himself says) on at least two occasions on UKP, before skulking off.

What's that about "Clark"? Or should I call you Max?

Clark seems to of gone very quite now ? He needs to come with  some form of evidence, otherwise people will think he's either a pimp or a bitter punter 

[hendrix]

Clark seems to of gone very quite now ? He needs to come with  some form of evidence, otherwise people will think he's either a pimp or a bitter punter 

Yeah, he went quiet the last time he made this allegation too

Bottom line is he can't know what's going on in other people's punts. I mean, I could say I've heard things about him, but no point repeating them as there's no evidence.

So you have to wonder why he'd make the claim? As you say, either a rival prossie/pimp, or one of those sad fucks who got turned down and can't get over it

[Brazilian Martian]

Yeah, he went quiet the last time he made this allegation too

Bottom line is he can't know what's going on in other people's punts. I mean, I could say I've heard things about him, but no point repeating them as there's no evidence.

So you have to wonder why he'd make the claim? As you say, either a rival prossie/pimp, or one of those sad fucks who got turned down and can't get over it

Good point.

[Gentlelovemaking]

I personally disagree with the OP, imo she does have facial similarities to Kirsten Dunst - roundish face with high cheekbones, similar complexion and skin tone and very bright eyes that are delightfully lustful as she is looking up at you from her knees!
Also imo similar features to that of Sam Faiers from TOWIE.

Sam Fairs and Kirsten Dunst don't look alike imo,

I reiterate she looks nothing like Kirsten Dunst, I feel that's more of a band wagon comment made by punters which has stuck.

As you've mentioned Sam Fairs ..... you're probably on the money with that comparison

[Gentlelovemaking]

Yeah, he went quiet the last time he made this allegation too

Bottom line is he can't know what's going on in other people's punts. I mean, I could say I've heard things about him, but no point repeating them as there's no evidence.

So you have to wonder why he'd make the claim? As you say, either a rival prossie/pimp, or one of those sad fucks who got turned down and can't get over it

I'm sure he's heard something, the credibility of what he has heard is what I question and would like him to confirm.

I've thought about the comments here and the implication is that regulars get this privilege.

Question is how common this would be for other SP's, do regulars with other SP's get to go BB?

[peter purves]

I personally disagree with the OP, imo she does have facial similarities to Kirsten Dunst - roundish face with high cheekbones, similar complexion and skin tone and very bright eyes that are delightfully lustful as she is looking up at you from her knees!
Also imo similar features to that of Sam Faiers from TOWIE.

Just goes to show that things are not always as they seem with regard to perception...Eye Eye 

[peter purves]

Sam Fairs and Kirsten Dunst don't look alike imo,

I reiterate she looks nothing like Kirsten Dunst, I feel that's more of a band wagon comment made by punters which has stuck.

As you've mentioned Sam Fairs ..... you're probably on the money with that comparison

Here we go again...Eye Eye!!! 

[hendrix]

I'm sure he's heard something, the credibility of what he has heard is what I question and would like him to confirm.

I've thought about the comments here and the implication is that regulars get this privilege.

Question is how common this would be for other SP's, do regulars with other SP's get to go BB?

My opinion is that every prossie is barebacking somebody, but I have no way of being sure. It just seems more likely than not to me.

However, given the taboo, the only reason to mention it in passing (as ClarkeOfTheCourse has done twice with this WG) with no definite evidence, can only be an attempt to harm her business/reputation. Why would a genuine punter do that? I can see why a jealous prossie/pimp/jilted punter would though and that's what I think he is.

Otherwise, let's take it in turns mentioning that we suspect that bb is offered on every single review for every prossie because we might be right

[KPL]

I'm sure he's heard something, the credibility of what he has heard is what I question and would like him to confirm.

I've thought about the comments here and the implication is that regulars get this privilege.

Question is how common this would be for other SP's, do regulars with other SP's get to go BB?

I sent the OP a PM and asked if he could come back to this thread to provide info, would be interesting to learn details. I wouldnt be surprised though, many WGs have regulars and over time trust builds... they get drunk or high, get caught in the moment over a long booking etc. I could see that happening in some situations in general. And SPs have a private life as well, who knows what they get up to 

[Differential]

Thanks for the info guys

[hendrix]

Regarding Kirsten Dunst/Sam Faiers... I reckon it's a bit of both. Top part of face, Dunst, bottom part Faiers ...

[Gentlelovemaking]

Regarding Kirsten Dunst/Sam Faiers... I reckon it's a bit of both. Top part of face, Dunst, bottom part Faiers ...

It's funny I spent 6 months deciding if I should see her and was expecting a Kirsten Dunst look alike.

When she walked through the door no review on how she looked was any use to me.

I'd say see her I'd you're more into service over looks, this way you'll be pleasently surprised by her looks and blown away (literally) by the service.

[hendrix]

It's funny I spent 6 months deciding if I should see her and was expecting a Kirsten Dunst look alike.

When she walked through the door no review on how she looked was any use to me.

I'd say see her I'd you're more into service over looks, this way you'll be pleasently surprised by her looks and blown away (literally) by the service.

Yep, I'd agree with that. Which is why I've always said that punters that have to see pictures in order to determine looks, probably shouldn't take the risk, unless they're sure that service level trumps all, in which case she's unlikely to disappoint.

[Tailpipe]

OP

Very clear review thanks for that .

That makes 89  positive reviews , many by punters that I have great respect for.

The services are far to strong for my liking , but each to there own.  I have never seen her.

To post a BB allegation (in a booking) or even a hint of one against an SP that is 89-0 with out concrete proof is bollocks we better than that I hope.

I sure I read in the past that she had a BF but at the end of the day someone is BB partners or who ever they
fancy I guess , or some of them are. So the risks are as high where ever you go. But at least she can prove she has the all clear.

[Differential]

Yep, I'd agree with that. Which is why I've always said that punters that have to see pictures in order to determine looks, probably shouldn't take the risk, unless they're sure that service level trumps all, in which case she's unlikely to disappoint.

Fwiw I value both, as well as my money.

At the price she charges, if she was a stunner and provided the service she does I would have definitely seen her. By the sounds of it she's 'good but not great' in the looks department, so although she remains on my radar she is more of an option for when I have a bit of extra cash to spend than someone i need to see urgently.

Usual caveat of eye of the beholder applies etc

[Gentlelovemaking]

Fwiw I value both, as well as my money.

At the price she charges, if she was a stunner and provided the service she does I would have definitely seen her. By the sounds of it she's 'good but not great' in the looks department, so although she remains on my radar she is more of an option for when I have a bit of extra cash to spend than someone i need to see urgently.

Usual caveat of eye of the beholder applies etc

I was in the same boat as you couldn't decide and my punt was spontaneous. Miss KDD was the last on my list so felt I had to punt her and glad I did.

With regards to cost, it's all about perspective. I'd rather see KDD once than see 3 average SP's who are not into the job.

I felt like I'd experienced something new with KDD which I can't say about other SP's. Although I'm relatively young I feel money is best spent on new life experiences and that made this punt well worth it.

[mcgee121]

...Which is why I've always said that punters that have to see pictures in order to determine looks...

How else is a punter supposed to determine looks without pics?

...probably shouldn't take the risk, unless they're sure that service level trumps all...

What one defines as great service is highly subjective.  Punters won't know if she is good until they get in the room with her.  We all have different needs and requirements.  One member was repulsed by some of the services she offered and stated he "was put right off".  I'm intrigued by her but wouldn't want her puking on my dick either.  The OP loved the puke everywhere.  So no, I don't know for sure that her services will be great for me.

[claretandblue]

How else is a punter supposed to determine looks without pics?

What one defines as great service is highly subjective.  Punters won't know if she is good until they get in the room with her.  We all have different needs and requirements.  One member was repulsed by some of the services she offered and stated he "was put right off".  I'm intrigued by her but wouldn't want her puking on my dick either.  The OP loved the puke everywhere.  So no, I don't know for sure that her services will be great for me.

The service is bang on for me but having seen numerous photos I wouldnt go over 150ph as personally I dont find her attractive 

[mcgee121]

The service is bang on for me but having seen numerous photos I wouldnt go over 150ph as personally I dont find her attractive 

Well we all know you find Cutest Lucy very attractive  ?  Was she better than KDD in your view?

[hendrix]

How else is a punter supposed to determine looks without pics?

What one defines as great service is highly subjective.  Punters won't know if she is good until they get in the room with her.  We all have different needs and requirements.  One member was repulsed by some of the services she offered and stated he "was put right off".  I'm intrigued by her but wouldn't want her puking on my dick either.  The OP loved the puke everywhere.  So no, I don't know for sure that her services will be great for me.

Well, many punters have obviously gone by written descriptions rather than pictures some will be happy, some won't...YMMV. being the golden rule in punting.

As for services, the vast majority point to very full on pse, so if that's not your bag, then that's a pointer.

Does anyone think that "good service" doesn't equal enthusiastic and engaged?

[claretandblue]

Well we all know you find Cutest Lucy very attractive  ?  Was she better than KDD in your view?

well i have punted lucy but kdd I have only seen pictures,for me kdd is certainly frumpier looking and I would have thought older, but probably slightly better looking in my opinion...

Kdd offers a more extreme service than lucy by all accounts though and while I gave lucy a neutral at 150ph I would never return certainly not at 200ph

[dav1d66]

well i have punted lucy but kdd I have only seen pictures,for me kdd is certainly frumpier looking and I would have thought older, but probably slightly better looking in my opinion...

Kdd offers a more extreme service than lucy by all accounts though and while I gave lucy a neutral at 150ph I would never return certainly not at 200ph

I've never seen any photos anywhere, where were these?

[mcgee121]

Well, many punters have obviously gone by written descriptions rather than pictures...

There wasn't anything else  .  You yourself have illustrated numerous times how futile and pointless it was trying to describe how she looked.

As for services, the vast majority point to very full on pse, so if that's not your bag, then that's a pointer.

It's the punter which sets the boundary of extremeness within the limits of what the SP does.

Does anyone think that "good service" doesn't equal enthusiastic and engaged?

That's partly it.  It also involves skill level, spontaneity and personality which are measured subjectively.

[mcgee121]

well i have punted lucy but kdd I have only seen pictures,for me kdd is certainly frumpier looking and I would have thought older, but probably slightly better looking in my opinion...

Thanks helpful  .

[hendrix]

There wasn't anything else  .  You yourself have illustrated numerous times how futile and pointless it was trying to describe how she looked.

It's the punter which sets the boundary of extremeness within the limits of what the SP does.

That's partly it.  It also involves skill level, spontaneity and personality which are measured subjectively.

I think we've agreed actually

Except,  I don't particularly care about a prossies personality as I'm not interested in dating one

[claretandblue]

I've never seen any photos anywhere, where were these?

No need for me to say,9 posts over 4 years all about kdd bar one today,what gives?

[mcgee121]

My opinion is that every prossie is barebacking somebody, but I have no way of being sure. It just seems more likely than not to me.

Why?

However, given the taboo, the only reason to mention it in passing (as ClarkeOfTheCourse has done twice with this WG) with no definite evidence, can only be an attempt to harm her business/reputation. Why would a genuine punter do that? I can see why a jealous prossie/pimp/jilted punter would though and that's what I think he is.

I think you are being a bit hard on Clarke.  It was probably just a tongue in cheek comment; we don't know.  His allegation was nothing we shouldn't have already assumed anyway.  For her to bb is tame compared to some of the stuff she does and bb is a health issue not a taboo.  We all love to see bb in porn; it's the norm.  He never claimed that she bbed every random punter.  Also, the thread was dying and he made those comments 2 days ago.  So you were obviously personally affected by his comments because you are pally with KDD and a fan (I'm not implying you are fluffy) of hers.  That's not a dig at you but it's understandable because you have seen her so many times.  Her reputation is that of a consistent SP that provides extreme PSE services, Clarke did nothing to tarnish that reputation.  If Clarke did hear from a primary source that proves she does indeed bb some regulars.  Is he supposed to out the punter?  Lets suppose, he did betray his source, it would just end up being a "he said, she said" scenario.  At the end of the day, I don't think many people took Clarke seriously because he never tried to back up his claims so thus his claims caused insignificant harm to KDD's business.

Most of the interest about KDD on her reviews nowadays is about what she looks like.  We now know she is a girl next door type and not ugly thanks to the OP.  We also know she reads reviews about herself because she posted her arse pic (which she subsequently removed) so she is obviously self-conscious about how she looks.  Also, bold claims about her success imo are only true if she retires around the age of 30.  Almost none, of these SPs want to be an old prossie if they are being honest with themselves.  If you still need to do it for the money at that age then that is not success imo.

Otherwise, let's take it in turns mentioning that we suspect that bb is offered on every single review for every prossie because we might be right

Every prossie is not equal in the risks they will take.  SPs that cover everything up and don't kiss won't be viewed in the same light as a SP that indulges in the extreme end of PSE services.  KDD may never have bbed a client in her life.  But I will make the assumption that she has just like I would that a bodybuilder that looks bigger than the norm is on the juice.  As BM eloquently put there is no Ombudsman in punting.  The claims any SP makes have no guarantee.  If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to bb an AW escort, KDD would be one of the last escorts I would bbing.

[mcgee121]

Except,  I don't particularly care about a prossies personality as I'm not interested in dating one

So you like rude women  ?  I like polite women with a good sense of humour that aren't robotic and that I can easily hold a convo with.  There are a lot more variables involved in dating than just liking a personality.

[Link7]

LOOOL can't believe I've been wasting my time over on that Charissa thread, where was the heads up lads this was a much more entertaining read. Been vaguely aware of the KDD woman for ages, know nothing about her though, so nothing really to add (apart from my 2 cents, cos I'm a nosy gobshite). Even when I was a lurker on this site, I have to say I noticed Hendrix mentioning her name a lot.

The BB stuff is juicy gossip, but I don't necessarily think its earth shattering. Don't get me wrong, prossies that do BB with any tom/dick/harry off the street are fucking irresponsible. But realistically, BB is something which happens - most people are doing it, or have done it, with someone. Punters do it with wives, SPs with boyfriends etc.

As many have said before, this is why you always use a condom with a paid woman, even if other punters maybe aren't, it's for your own protection.

That being said, the rumours that this chick has had STDs several times in the past are a HUGE red flag for me. Sounds like she takes PSE to the next level  - so at that point, no shit sherlock, things are going to get hella risky. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, even if she's asking for certificates nowadays.

Carry on everyone

[Brazilian Martian]

LOOOL can't believe I've been wasting my time over on that Charissa thread, where was the heads up lads this was a much more entertaining read. Been vaguely aware of the KDD woman for ages, know nothing about her though, so nothing really to add (apart from my 2 cents, cos I'm a nosy gobshite). Even when I was a lurker on this site, I have to say I noticed Hendrix mentioning her name a lot.

The BB stuff is juicy gossip, but I don't necessarily think its earth shattering. Don't get me wrong, prossies that do BB with any tom/dick/harry off the street are fucking irresponsible. But realistically, BB is something which happens - most people are doing it, or have done it, with someone. Punters do it with wives, SPs with boyfriends etc.

As many have said before, this is why you always use a condom with a paid woman, even if other punters maybe aren't, it's for your own protection.

That being said, the rumours that this chick has had STDs several times in the past are a HUGE red flag for me. Sounds like she takes PSE to the next level  - so at that point, no shit sherlock, things are going to get hella risky. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, even if she's asking for certificates nowadays.

Carry on everyone

You're beginning to become my favourite poster Link7 

[Link7]

You're beginning tor become my favourite poster Link7 

Haha, I'm glad to be here mate. Better late than never!

[hendrix]

Some interesting points - but ClarkeOfTheCourse is certainly a shit stirrer regarding bb. Except when it comes to rumours about Maxes Angels - how odd 

We've had many pimps and prossies pretending to be punters on UKP (including one proven case involving a prossie joining up just to trash KDD interestingly enough in light of this) and they always get found out in the end I believe.

As for why I think all prossies bb - it's a good mindset to have when it comes to my own health and safety, and there is obvious demand for bb out there. Plus Sergie/the BF are certainly getting bb. Even from the ones you might deem to be "low risk"  service wise.

And yes, Link7 is correct that I've mentioned her a lot

Always happy to hear about alternative recommendations though that usually gets *crickets*

[peter purves]

It's funny I spent 6 months deciding if I should see her and was expecting a Kirsten Dunst look alike.

When she walked through the door no review on how she looked was any use to me.

Sorry butt I could not help  at this. Speaking of which and how was her butt btw?

Cheers!!

[Gentlelovemaking]

Sorry butt I could not help  at this. Speaking of which and how was her butt btw?

Cheers!!

  You know my dilemma with this PP.

Her Ass is alright ...actually it's just a bum with some shape which can be grabbed. She doesn't think she has a bubble but and neither do I. I can't believe a Punter compared her to Mal Malloy it's just an inaccurate description.

There is certainly an element of fluff and or exaduration in some reviews of her looks. Her ass won't turn heads anywhere, her body isn't particularly great.

However her tits are world class imo absolute gems as close to perfection for me I'd say.

[Gentlelovemaking]

 A few extra services like BB to some prolific reviewers to build up her rep. Then one day someone points out that the empress is naked.

Does anyone know what Clark Of The Course meant when he said "the empress is naked"

Is it a euphemism for BB? Can't quite work it out

[Lilywhite]

Does anyone know what Clark Of The Course meant when he said "the empress is naked"

Is it a euphemism for BB? Can't quite work it out

It's to do with the 'Emperor's New Clothes' story I believe. 

[Gentlelovemaking]

It's to do with the 'Emperor's New Clothes' story I believe. 

Now I understand,

That has some deep meaning in it