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Author Topic: Neutral reviews  (Read 3409 times)

Offline Mark76

I've just read JRC's comment about most punters being easily pleased. I happen to agree with this to an extent. Jimmy points out that 16 of the last 17 reviews are positive, something he finds hard to believe.

I think the review system does not particularly help here. Maybe if it could be changed to include a 'neutral' rating people would get a better expectation of service. I know I've had many 'average' punts, where I've received almost a generic service and could not be accurately described as good or bad. I'm more inclined to offer a good review if the service was only average as it seems fairer and more accurate than negative.

So my first question is if this is possible? And second, if so, do people think it is worthwhile or not? Personally I can't see any negative aspects of including it.

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Offline philboi

This is exactly what I was trying to say to Jimmy when he mentioned more positive than negative reviews:

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I think it depends if a punter either feels a girl is really good or really bad that prompts him to leave a report, but he's more likely to leave a positive report for a girl who in his opinion was ok, but it still leaves many girls who are so so without reports..

So basically an ok girl may get a positive report, which would mean more positive reports as we see, or no report at all.

If there where natural reviews then more may leave just a report, albeit neutral!!
« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 02:43:35 PM by philboi »

I concur, though Jimmy suggests this isn't the first time this has been raised and that there may be a technical issue with implementing it.

I'm going to swerve having a cheap shot at 'natural'.

I would prefer a neutral option that allows the fellow punters the chance to make up their own mind.

Today there was a review posted as positive, but with the Topic Title stating neutral

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=14426.0

No offence to the poster, but I would interpret the review as negative based on the girl not being the person on the AW profile, and the blatant lie about age, (I accept a little economic truthfulness). An experienced punter can normally read between the lines and determine whether a review is a recommendation or a warning

Is the site just for experienced punters though ?

Apologies if I have misconstrued your point.

My feeling is the benefit of the 3 tier review would help both experienced and the more green.

Offline philboi

I would prefer a neutral option that allows the fellow punters the chance to make up their own mind.

Exactly!

At the moment a girl is either good or bad but there are many who are in the middle!

With a neutral reporting option at least a punter can leave a report so others can decide for themselves :)
« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 02:53:03 PM by philboi »

Is the site just for experienced punters though ?

Apologies if I have misconstrued your point.

My feeling is the benefit of the 3 tier review would help both experienced and the more green.

I concurred with the view of having a 3 tier system. I was saying that an experienced punter would often see a negative in a positive, and visa versa. And by experienced, I did not mean someone that has had 100 punts, just someone that is not a punting virgin.


Offline Jimmyredcab

I would prefer a neutral option that allows the fellow punters the chance to make up their own mind.

Today there was a review posted as positive, but with the Topic Title stating neutral

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=14426.0

No offence to the poster, but I would interpret the review as negative based on the girl not being the person on the AW profile, and the blatant lie about age, (I accept a little economic truthfulness). An experienced punter can normally read between the lines and determine whether a review is a recommendation or a warning

From that review ----------

"Would I recommend? Yes. But don't expect the girl in the pictures"

This is simply supporting bait and switch.      :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Online smiths

I've just read JRC's comment about most punters being easily pleased. I happen to agree with this to an extent. Jimmy points out that 16 of the last 17 reviews are positive, something he finds hard to believe.

I think the review system does not particularly help here. Maybe if it could be changed to include a 'neutral' rating people would get a better expectation of service. I know I've had many 'average' punts, where I've received almost a generic service and could not be accurately described as good or bad. I'm more inclined to offer a good review if the service was only average as it seems fairer and more accurate than negative.

So my first question is if this is possible? And second, if so, do people think it is worthwhile or not? Personally I can't see any negative aspects of including it.

Only Adam would know if its possible i assume. If it is and Adam is in favour and prepared to do whatever it takes to implement it i would be in favour of such an option.

I concurred with the view of having a 3 tier system. I was saying that an experienced punter would often see a negative in a positive, and visa versa. And by experienced, I did not mean someone that has had 100 punts, just someone that is not a punting virgin.

Cheers.

That makes sense.

Online smiths

From that review ----------

"Would I recommend? Yes. But don't expect the girl in the pictures"

This is simply supporting bait and switch.      :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

I have been posting about this for a long time, i even did a thread about it, some punters werent bothered about B&S as i discovered to my dismay. There are  punters on here who already knew from previous that the pimp practices B&S. They just hoped the switch would be ok.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 03:00:21 PM by smiths »

Offline philboi

This is simply supporting bait and switch.      :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

This is true with that particular report, in fact if no one can know who they'll get the report is a bit pointless  :thumbsdown:

Offline Jimmyredcab

This is true with that particular report, in fact if no one can know who they'll get the report is a bit pointless  :thumbsdown:

Yes, exactly ------------------ the report would be more about the establishment than the actual girl, you are clearly going to see whoever is available.    :thumbsdown:

Offline philboi

I have been posting about this for a long time, i even did a thread about it, some punters werent bothered about B&S as i discovered to my dismay. There are  punters on here who already knew from previous that the pimp practices B&S. They just hoped the switch would be ok.

Really!!

More like a 'blind date' as Jimmy would say!

If I made a booking with a girl and it wasn't the girl I'd booked, I'd be off!

Offline philboi

Yes, exactly ------------------ the report would be more about the establishment than the actual girl, you are clearly going to see whoever is available.    :thumbsdown:

Bit like Spain then!!

At least there they parade several girls in front of you then you get to choose...  :thumbsup:

Offline potato

I think the problem is that reviewing a girls performance is a very subjective thing.  An inexperienced punter may regard a meeting as a positive whereas an experienced one would review it as a neutral or even negative. I think a Neutral Review option would be a good idea but you still have to read in between the lines either way...  The review posted today should have been a negative full stop.  This was a bait and switch fake picture profile.  The punter does not get to see the girl in the pic - that's not acceptable full stop..

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« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 03:11:01 PM by ellwoodpdowd »

Online smiths

I think the problem is that reviewing a girls performance is a very subjective thing.  An inexperienced punter may regard a meeting as a positive whereas an experienced one would review it as a neutral or even negative. I think a Neutral Review option would be a good idea but you still have to read in between the lines either way...  The review posted today should have been a negative full stop.  This was a bait and switch fake picture profile.  The punter does not get to see the girl in the pic - that's not acceptable full stop..

I agree, its always subjective, but if done following a few basic rules a review can be very handy to others. Those rules are confirming it is the WG in the pictures as she looks now, nationality, age (both best guesses of course) and size, what services she offered and at what price, was the location/flat ok, and did she offer good service with a good attitude being honest.

That review should indeed have been a negative, such reviews just encourage B&S in my view, no it wont stop the practice but at least we are making a stand against such a bad practice and as more punters join we can advise more of them refuse to punt with and through liars explaining why.

I am +1 for neutral reviews. I have had probably about 25% of punts that would fall in the category if it was available but it wasn't so I didn't write reports on them just a quick mention somewhere on the forum...

Offline Jimmyredcab

Really!!

More like a 'blind date' as Jimmy would say!

If I made a booking with a girl and it wasn't the girl I'd booked, I'd be off!

Yes, but some punters seem to think if the substitute girl is OK then there is not a problem ----------- I disagree.

This is precisely why I refuse to book girls with the head cut off their photos, you could end up seeing anyone.    :thumbsdown:

Offline philboi

This is precisely why I refuse to book girls with the head cut off their photos, you could end up seeing anyone.    :thumbsdown:

I've always thought your rule, on only seeing girls showing a face picture, is a perfect rule..... and as you proved yourself with your challenge, there are not many, if any good English girls who show their face in the area you gave - London M25 and Essex area, as I remember!

However, I'm sure you have missed out on many gorgeous girls but on the other hand you've reduced the amount of bad punts if the girl looked disastrous, which to be honest hasn't happened to me on more than 2 or 3 occasions... 

Offline bestbefore

I also think there should be a neutral category for reviews. I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to set up this option and it would encourage far more punters to leave reviews.

Quite often just one factor, say less than enthusiastic kissing, means that a punt wasnt perfect but just OK.
But many punters dont actually want to kiss an escort, so it would not be an issue for them, and a neutral review highlighting a specific negative would be helpful to other punters.

At the moment if you leave a positive review but mention a couple of negative elements, some members of this forum immediately slag the reviewer off and challenge the rating, despite the fact that they werent there.

Offline pokenn

To me a B&S is a negative. No ifs, no buts - negative.
Even if the punter goes ahead with the meeting and has a good time, it is still a negative.

Offline NightKid

Perhaps leave the review in the local punting section and title it neutral?  :unknown:

Offline skittish

Personally I don't think having a neutral facility will do anything to enhance the site, we're all perfectly capable of finding mediocre punts for ourselves. Writing a review just for the sake of writing a review serves little purpose IMHO. Do you really want to trawl through pages and pages of average reports? In the present format the positive and negative reports will get lost among all the neutrals.

I for one want to read about exceptional service providers without sifting through the average BS and hear about the truly awful ones so I can give them a swerve.

We can already ask about particular service providers in the regional boards and there's a fair chance somebody will stick their head above the parapet and say they've seen her and add their experience.


Offline Lz-129

To me a B&S is a negative. No ifs, no buts - negative.
Even if the punter goes ahead with the meeting and has a good time, it is still a negative.


Exactly what happened to me and I gave it a negative even though it was a good punt
I would prefer a neutral option meself so the punter can decide for himself whether or not to go for it
Positive for a great punt and negative for scams and b&s and poor punts,


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