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Author Topic: If you caught something would that put you off punting or escorting for good?  (Read 9404 times)

Offline mh

I was surprised when I read your comment about "7 am - 9 am" - like they make it difficult to attend. AIUI sexual health services are stretched - maybe more from civvies than WGs and their clients - but out here in the sticks the service is very friendly and as convenient as I think it can be given how busy they are. I say here in the sticks because I'm guessing you may be near or in London - in which case if your local service is not so good, is there another nearby you could use instead?

Well I'm out in the sticks and it had been more than a year since I visited the GUM clinic so I checked the info online and the male drop-in clinic was (as last time) open for just 2 hours after lunchtime on one day each week at the hospital. Worse, though, the info was totally out of date. I turned up and the damn thing had closed down and is no longer at the hospital, but is instead in another medical centre - on a different day and for only 1.5 hours! I called the number for the old info to tell them it is wrong and it has been disconnected. Anyway I might get to go this week instead.

Offline justawarning

I've been punting about 15 or so years. Always been safe, always used condoms, even for oral. However, 6 months ago I caught herpes from a WG (see the reviews south-west page for details) . I didn't catch it from the actual sex, but at the end she rubbed her pussy then rubbed her pussy wetness on my cock. To say my life has been wrecked ever since would be an understatement.

Constant pain for 3 months with no sores and every Dr saying no it's nothing. Blood tests all negative. Then, after 3 months, repeat the bloods and it shows up herpes as positive. Nearly 6 months in and still no sores as such but every day there is nerve pain, tingling, and done redness on the top of my penis.  I can't have sex, can't masturbate, pain in my back and legs makes walking difficult somedays, burning in my hands and feet, nausea and feeling like someone had kicked me in the nuts every day since. 

Dr says it's post hepatic neuralgia, caused by the virus infecting the nerves but not producing sores . I contacted the WG concerned.... She didn't even reply, still cobtinued to work that day, still works now... Doesn't care less. As far as I am concerned she already knew she had it, in fact I think she infected me on purpose at the end.

So that's it, life over really, the impact it has despite anti virals is understated. It is a BIG thing in your life. The pain somedays in unbearable. Worst part is..... If you have standard std screenings on the nhs THEY DON'T TEST FOR HERPES. You have to go private and the test is 150 quid. Also, unlike other std's, herpes can hide, and may not be detected in blood for 3-6 months, or even longer. By testing after the event, then testing 3 months again it showed it was that WG which had the virus.

So yes. It's stopped me now from doing anything. I wished I had learnt more about herpes .... I would never have gone punting from day 1.  Sure I've had some amazing sex but is one shag worth the rest of your life in pain??? I'd think about that one very carefully chaps..... And ladies. Remember, even condoms are only 30% effective against catching herpes.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 03:00:24 PM by justawarning »

Well I'm out in the sticks and it had been more than a year since I visited the GUM clinic so I checked the info online and the male drop-in clinic was (as last time) open for just 2 hours after lunchtime on one day each week at the hospital. Worse, though, the info was totally out of date. I turned up and the damn thing had closed down and is no longer at the hospital, but is instead in another medical centre - on a different day and for only 1.5 hours! I called the number for the old info to tell them it is wrong and it has been disconnected. Anyway I might get to go this week instead.

That's exactly what i saw when i searched for times, open for only a couple hours a day, really early in the morning. Not very helpful. Now you've posted this i'm gonna call and ask coz i don't wanna go down there and have it be old times. I have a day off on thursday so am gonna try and go then, if i have to disrupt my lie in it'll have to be done.

Wow, justawarning, that is devestating. It's certinaly making me consider if i will continue.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 03:05:54 PM by Thepacifist »

Offline Inna

I'm not sure what i would do.. going to the clinic is a necessary part of this lifestyle imo, so if one day they read the results and say unfortunately you have caught something, i would feel pretty embarresed i would imagine. It's been a while since i've been and need to get down there but they make it so awkward with times such as 7am-9am.. Anyway, i didn't want to make a poll but does anyone have any advice or has been there? what did you do?

I don't know about catching, but I throw like a girl :)

Offline Dani

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Can you guys not go to a local city to be tested.  I know up here Derby Gum is mon wed thurs and fri 8.45 am - 6pm and tues 8.45am -12pm

Larger hospitals tend to have all day openings for the gum clinics.  I always get there around 8am though as the queue gets rather long at the female section on a Monday after weekend nights out.  Funnily enough there is never a queue at the mens door even though the same amount fo guys must have been out having sex.

Offline billyjo

I've been punting about 15 or so years. Always been safe, always used condoms, even for oral. However, 6 months ago I caught herpes from a WG (see the reviews south-west page for details) . I didn't catch it from the actual sex, but at the end she rubbed her pussy then rubbed her pussy wetness on my cock. To say my life has been wrecked ever since would be an understatement.

Constant pain for 3 months with no sores and every Dr saying no it's nothing. Blood tests all negative. Then, after 3 months, repeat the bloods and it shows up herpes as positive. Nearly 6 months in and still no sores as such but every day there is nerve pain, tingling, and done redness on the top of my penis.  I can't have sex, can't masturbate, pain in my back and legs makes walking difficult somedays, burning in my hands and feet, nausea and feeling like someone had kicked me in the nuts every day since. 

Dr says it's post hepatic neuralgia, caused by the virus infecting the nerves but not producing sores . I contacted the WG concerned.... She didn't even reply, still cobtinued to work that day, still works now... Doesn't care less. As far as I am concerned she already knew she had it, in fact I think she infected me on purpose at the end.

So that's it, life over really, the impact it has despite anti virals is understated. It is a BIG thing in your life. The pain somedays in unbearable. Worst part is..... If you have standard std screenings on the nhs THEY DON'T TEST FOR HERPES. You have to go private and the test is 150 quid. Also, unlike other std's, herpes can hide, and may not be detected in blood for 3-6 months, or even longer. By testing after the event, then testing 3 months again it showed it was that WG which had the virus.

So yes. It's stopped me now from doing anything. I wished I had learnt more about herpes .... I would never have gone punting from day 1.  Sure I've had some amazing sex but is one shag worth the rest of your life in pain??? I'd think about that one very carefully chaps..... And ladies. Remember, even condoms are only 30% effective against catching herpes.

I recently went to GUM Clinic and pretty sure they test for herpes, not sure if this is different to standard nhs screenings on the nhs?

I was looking forward to a punt tonight but your post has just put me off.

From your post I'm guessing herpes isn't curable?

Was there any warning signs from the wg's genital area?

« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 04:19:43 PM by billyjo »

Curious6705

Well I'm out in the sticks and it had been more than a year since I visited the GUM clinic so I checked the info online and the male drop-in clinic was (as last time) open for just 2 hours after lunchtime on one day each week at the hospital. Worse, though, the info was totally out of date. I turned up and the damn thing had closed down and is no longer at the hospital, but is instead in another medical centre - on a different day and for only 1.5 hours! I called the number for the old info to tell them it is wrong and it has been disconnected. Anyway I might get to go this week instead.

I'm starting to realise I'm lucky to live where I do. There is a large clinic open 6 days a week, and 19 local clinics.

When I asked about GUM clinics in London it sounded like there are good ones there - Matty posted a helpful suggestion.

Offline justawarning

Nope. No warnings. Looking back however two things stand out. ,1. She seemed to be in pain when having sex. I asked her if she was ok and of course she said yes. 2. She didn't want to shower with me at the end.

Nhs will look for herpes, but unless you have a sore, they will go no further than that. Many drs won't consider herpes unless you have a typical sore or blister.  Truth is many people, me included have atypical symptoms, ie not the norm. Herpes can show as a tiny 'paper cut', a patch of redder skin, or just a tiny spot that doesnt hurt itch or burn the size of a pinhead anywhere in your genital area.  I.e. it's hard to spot in some people. Then there is viral shedding where the virus is on the skin but no sores visible so you can still catch it.

I'm an expert on it now..... Alas it's too late though. No it's not curable. You take medicines to try and reduce the pain and try to get on with your life. I'm just so frickin angry with myself. I've always been so careful but to catch it this way with just hand to genital contact is so , well,  awful I guess. Shows how easy it can be spread.

You can take a blootd test which detects antibodies, even if you have no does and it's wrorth asking your gum clinic if they do "herpes igg blood test'. Most don't due to cost. However, some people may test positive in three weeks, others may take up to 6 months, some even longer, so you can imagine the anxiety and worry while you wait.

Add to this the risk of infecting a loved one..worst part is...... I even paid to catch this :(

Ps. You are also 3 times more likely to catch HIV if you have herpes, thankfully that test was negative
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 04:41:33 PM by justawarning »

Offline billyjo

When I went to the GUM clinic a few weeks ago I provided a blood and urine sample, the nurse told me they test for herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea and HIV. 

Think I'll pass on my punt tonight, wont be able to enjoy it after reading your posts.  Looks like I might have to find me a new hobby.

Offline justawarning

Sorry dude. 15 years without catching anything and I would have gone another 15 if the stupid cow hadn't done what she did. Everything in life carries a risk, catching herpes is a risk yes, you just have to balance it all up I guess. If your happy to take the risk then go for it. I just wanted to make people aware that's all.

Offline CatBBW

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The problem with herpes - and the reason there's not a regular blood test for it - is that a large % of the population will be carriers, having caught it at some point in their life but showed no symptoms so didn't know. The blood test only shows if you are a carrier, NOT if you are infectious. Generally, you are only infectious when you have an outbreak and active open sore, but as a previous poster said: the sore can be like a tiny pin prick or a paper cut. Women could therefore easily dismiss this as "another round of thrush", men could also dismiss it if the sex had been vigorous and ended up with a sore nob.
(the sore doesn't even need to be in/on the pussy - it could be on her anus, or mouth, or even her eye! If touched it can be transmitted!)

Unfortunatly, justawarning had pussy juice rubbed on his cock from a lady with an "outbreak", and therefore need not have even used a condom in the first place. The girl was protected against anything justawarning may have had, but she was a fucking idiot to place him in a situation where he may as well have just barebacked her, whether or not she knew she had an active outbreak.
 :angry:

justawarning - hope you've done some research into boosting your immune system, I've heard this can help with warding off future outbreaks and dealing with current ones.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 05:31:15 PM by Catherine The Great »

Offline smiths

Always still amazes me when a punter just believes a posters post they presumably dont know. A punter posts he got Herpes off a WG, which was discussed on another thread a while back, and then another poster posts he might need to find a new hobby.

Personally i go on my own experiences, then on punters i know, trust and/or respect, but i dont just believe what a complete stranger who i dont even know from reading their posts over a period of time posts. Just shows how differently we can think.

Offline justawarning

Generally, you are only infectious when you have an outbreak and active open sore, but as a previous poster said: the sore can be like a tiny pin prick or a paper cut.

Actually this isnt true - there is also asymptomatic shedding which occurs.   Its common and its when the virus is active, produces no sores, no symptoms, but is being extreated through the skin, and yes, someone could catch it when this is happening making it even more difficult to find out when someone is contagious or not.

Smiths - as I said in the other thread, ive no problem if people want to see her, I have no ulterior motive, I just want to warn people, thats all.  People can make their own minds up.

Offline smiths

Actually this isnt true - there is also asymptomatic shedding which occurs.   Its common and its when the virus is active, produces no sores, no symptoms, but is being extreated through the skin, and yes, someone could catch it when this is happening making it even more difficult to find out when someone is contagious or not.

Smiths - as I said in the other thread, ive no problem if people want to see her, I have no ulterior motive, I just want to warn people, thats all.  People can make their own minds up.

I know, i read your previous posts, and yes they can make their own minds up of course.

Offline CatBBW

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Actually this isnt true - there is also asymptomatic shedding which occurs.   Its common and its when the virus is active, produces no sores, no symptoms, but is being extreated through the skin, and yes, someone could catch it when this is happening making it even more difficult to find out when someone is contagious or not.


That's why I said "generally".

And still, the blood test WON'T show when someone IS contagious.


Just got back from the clinic and i feel a lot better after having been. The doctor took care of my spot which was a blocked poor or something, i'm just so happy it's gone. Had a piss test and blood test. spoke to a sexual adviser and she was very insightful and non judgemental. At one point i felt dizzy and had to lye down but thats coz i don't like blood or needles and i put my self off mentally. Where do i go from here? I'm not sure if i'll continue punting. part of me want to have a punt rite now the other part thinks i should take a break and focus on real girls. I'll still be posting, if not then lurking. now i'm just waiting til they call me for the results. hopefully all will be well.

Offline smiths

Just got back from the clinic and i feel a lot better after having been. The doctor took care of my spot which was a blocked poor or something, i'm just so happy it's gone. Had a piss test and blood test. spoke to a sexual adviser and she was very insightful and non judgemental. At one point i felt dizzy and had to lye down but thats coz i don't like blood or needles and i put my self off mentally. Where do i go from here? I'm not sure if i'll continue punting. part of me want to have a punt rite now the other part thinks i should take a break and focus on real girls. I'll still be posting, if not then lurking. now i'm just waiting til they call me for the results. hopefully all will be well.

I hope everything will be well. ;)

Offline Vortex77

Actually this isnt true - there is also asymptomatic shedding which occurs.   Its common and its when the virus is active, produces no sores, no symptoms, but is being extreated through the skin, and yes, someone could catch it when this is happening making it even more difficult to find out when someone is contagious or not.

Smiths - as I said in the other thread, ive no problem if people want to see her, I have no ulterior motive, I just want to warn people, thats all.  People can make their own minds up.

Are you uncircumcised? And can you post a link to the wg in question so we know to avoid?


Offline mh

My GUM clinic experience...

I visited the GUM clinic yesterday for a check-up. As I said earlier in the thread, the previous hospital department location appears to have  closed and now it's in a building very close to the shopping centre in the town, with a huge and obvious sign over the door. I am not kidding, it's this logo on the sign:



The building is not in view of the shops but is overlooked by several blocks of flats. The residents must enjoy watching the stream of visitors and playing spot the WG/punter/trollop/jack-the-lad. It's also pregnancy advisory service so there are a fair number of young girls there with partners/mums potentially for non-STI screening reasons.

So, standing out suitably as the only bloke over 25 in there I waited for almost an hour to be seen but once I was seen it was all very professional and efficient. They did a full questionnaire about previous tests, specific sexual partners including regular and one-off, whether paid or not, nationalities of partners, what protection was used for all different activities etc. Unsurprisingly the recommendation was for a full screening and blood/urine was taken with results due back in 2-3 days for the urine and 2 weeks for the bloods.

They then recommended I speak to a sexual health advisor and I almost declined but decided in for a penny...

The advisor was fine. He went through dangers and mitigating behaviours (that he agreed I was already doing) but was not at all critical. In fact he sympathised with my position (lack of sex at home) and made a few suggestions in that regard. He offered free condoms and even free lube! He also discussed alternatives to paying for sex, i.e. casual encounters which still had similar dangers in terms of STIs, no more, no less.

So as to his concrete advice on avoiding STIs, it was all pretty obvious really. Having only protected penetration makes the risk of a serious disease very low. Receiving unprotected oral has a risk but giving oral to a WG is a somewhat higher risk. You don't know who a WG has BB'd (and indirectly what their own paying and non-paying partners are doing) but the diseases you are at risk of are the same either giving or receiving oral. The rate of infection in the general public is still rising rapidly and while not out of control it's certainly heading that way, mostly fuelled by young people making bad choices when pissed.

Offline Vortex77

Always still amazes me when a punter just believes a posters post they presumably dont know. A punter posts he got Herpes off a WG, which was discussed on another thread a while back, and then another poster posts he might need to find a new hobby.

Personally i go on my own experiences, then on punters i know, trust and/or respect, but i dont just believe what a complete stranger who i dont even know from reading their posts over a period of time posts. Just shows how differently we can think.

Yeah but its hardly unlikely thing to occur and I'm more surprised more people haven't caught more stds through punting. It doesn't sound like he's telling fibs either; saying that we don't know if he was having any casual encounters outside punting which could have caused it.

But fuck hearing it has made me re-consider if punting is something I want to continue to do. We're basically playing russian roulette until we get the wrong round.

And whether hes telling the truth or not it's something that needs to always be considered and whats concerning is that even though he took all precautionary measures in staying protected through both oral and penetrated - he still managed to catch a serious case of herpes. I also appreciate that he decided to come on here and warn us of the wg in question so anyone else who was thinking of booking her is now warned.

Offline smiths

Yeah but its hardly unlikely thing to occur and I'm more surprised more people haven't caught more stds through punting. It doesn't sound like he's telling fibs either; saying that we don't know if he was having any casual encounters outside punting which could have caused it.

But fuck hearing it has made me re-consider if punting is something I want to continue to do. We're basically playing russian roulette until we get the wrong round.

And whether hes telling the truth or not it's something that needs to always be considered and whats concerning is that even though he took all precautionary measures in staying protected through both oral and penetrated - he still managed to catch a serious case of herpes. I also appreciate that he decided to come on here and warn us of the wg in question so anyone else who was thinking of booking her is now warned.

I trust no one when it comes to my sexual health and do what i know is fact, look after my own health by going to the GUM quartely and punting on a risk to reward basis. The reality is punting involves sexual contact with virtual or complete strangers, who knows what they might have been up to.

Offline justawarning

Totally agree, life without risk would be boring. The chance of catching herpes per annum is about 4% from what I've researched. As Smith's said it's a case of weighing it all up. Heck, I've had instances years ago punting where condoms have broken during sex and then spent the next few months worrying in case I had caught HIV or something.

Thing is I think we put too much faith in condoms.... All you need is one to break with a girl with herpes or hiv and that could be it..... Even though youve been careful.

I've always weighed things up in that I would probably have more chance of catching something from a one night stand with a girl I met in a nightclub than with a WG given that most of them to be fair do get tested regularly, after all it is their livelihood and income at stake.

If your happy to accept the risks, and be as careful as you can ultimately be, then no reason to stop. You could have a heart attack or vr took you have cancer tomorrow. .. and you turned down that gorgeous blonde WG just the other day ;)

I just wanted to warn people, that even though I took every precaution, it's still possible..... Bit I've been punting for about 15 years and did 5 years on the swinging scene so I think I did pretty well.

Offline mh

Totally agree, life without risk would be boring. The chance of catching herpes per annum is about 4% from what I've researched.

4% of what??

Do you mean 4% of the population will catch herpes in any one year? That doesn't provide a chance figure for any one person catching it unless we're all having sex the same number of times each year and with the same number of different partners and that they and their own partners in turn all have the average distribution of herpes amongst them!

You could have a heart attack or vr took you have cancer tomorrow. .. and you turned down that gorgeous blonde WG just the other day ;)

This is true. And applies to single guys. But for those married or in long term relationships, treatment or medication for a heart attack or cancer is easier to explain...!!
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 03:23:16 PM by mh »

Offline CatBBW

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I just wanted to warn people, that even though I took every precaution, it's still possible...

But you didn't take every precaution. You allowed a prostitute to rub her pussy juice on your cock.
You may as well have barebacked her!


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