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Offline philboi

I am a B'don lad, but now not living too far from the in SWF

Hello neighbour! I'm saying no more..  :bomb:

Hello neighbour! I'm saying no more..  :bomb:

I got the impression, after some comments in the Brothel Closure thread, that you was local...say no more nudge nudge wink wink

Offline potato

You could just use a cheap PAYG phone and leave it switched off, stored with your spare wheel. If discovered its the "emergency phone" in case of breakdown and your own phone is flat, as mine usually is....  Pin Lock it on switch on and there you go. If you want to play it extra safe, pull the sim slightly so that if you are "forced" to show it, then it will come up with no sim inserted and you can complain its broken, glad you checked it......

My spare phone is just one of many old models lying about at work in the open and doesn't get a second glance..
« Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 01:19:13 PM by ellwoodpdowd »

Offline ParisB

best sort of phone to get is one that is around 10 years old with no internet gps stuff -  nokias are probably the best 
very basic very easy to use and no way real way  to track you via gps /internet 

Something like this  for a fiver is brilliant   totally basic and totally uncool so no worries of being robbed  .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-3410-Silver-Unlocked-Mobile-Phone-RETRO-OLD-SCHOOL-/370838225874?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item5657ae43d2
« Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 11:21:02 PM by ParisB »

Offline ParisB

Also if you have no where to leave it then sometimes in plain site is best   -  so buy the phone leave it around the house in plain view with no sim card or lock on for a few weeks. 
   Once its seen and the  other half has looked at it and decided its not a threat she wont bother with it again  :lol:

Curious6705

best sort of phone to get is one that is around 10 years old with no internet gps stuff -  nokias are probably the best 
very basic very easy to use and no way real way  to track you via gps /internet

If it's turned on they know where you are - or at least what transmitters you are near - and if it's several transmitters (most urban areas) they can calculate your position using sums \ triangulation.

Offline Pauluk1

If it's turned on they know where you are - or at least what transmitters you are near - and if it's several transmitters (most urban areas) they can calculate your position using sums \ triangulation.

Probably not too much of an issue unless their wives work for GCHQ.

Curious6705

Probably not too much of an issue unless their wives work for GCHQ.

The networks know where you have been and can tell anyone who's entitled to ask them.

Offline smiths

best sort of phone to get is one that is around 10 years old with no internet gps stuff -  nokias are probably the best 
very basic very easy to use and no way real way  to track you via gps /internet 

Something like this  for a fiver is brilliant   totally basic and totally uncool so no worries of being robbed  .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-3410-Silver-Unlocked-Mobile-Phone-RETRO-OLD-SCHOOL-/370838225874?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item5657ae43d2

Yep, basic but does the job for me at least.

Offline aardvark

The networks know where you have been and can tell anyone who's entitled to ask them.
Who on earth would be 'entitled to ask'???? Getting anything from a mobile phone company costs a fortune - viz itemised billing - so a location would be impractical.  Cell site triangulation is complex and expensive and certainly not available even to the most tech-savvy.  If it was easy, the police wiuld do it as a matter of routine - and they certainly don't do that! !

Offline philboi

Now, where were we..... Ohh yes.

What the hell do you say when an extra phone is found in the house. Advise please...

The correct response would be:

"Ohh help me lord!"

Preferably when you're on your knees!

Offline Stiltskin

What the hell do you say when when an extra phone is found in the house. Advise please...

What do you do with your old phone when you upgrade?

My old phones get slung in a drawer and stay there. When I'm on a punt and I put my PAYG SIM in the previous phone and take that with me. Afterwards I do a hard reset and put it back where it came from.

Curious6705

Who on earth would be 'entitled to ask'???? Getting anything from a mobile phone company costs a fortune - viz itemised billing - so a location would be impractical.  Cell site triangulation is complex and expensive and certainly not available even to the most tech-savvy.  If it was easy, the police wiuld do it as a matter of routine - and they certainly don't do that! !

A lawyer would be qualified to answer that question.

It's A Level maths and the phone companies can afford to employ people who passed their exams.


Offline philboi

What do you do with your old phone when you upgrade?

Trade it in for the new one!!!!!

That's ruined your technique...  :lol:

Offline Stiltskin

Trade it in for the new one!!!!!

That's ruined your technique...  :lol:

They only give me about £3 for mine so I don't bother.

Offline ParisB

If it's turned on they know where you are - or at least what transmitters you are near - and if it's several transmitters (most urban areas) they can calculate your position using sums \ triangulation.


Yes but unless your planning to murder someone or rob a bank or something equally as bad the police wont go  to go to all the trouble of trying to triangulate your phone 
But with a iPhone /smart phone its a damm site easier to track someone and know what they have been up to

Offline ParisB

for those of you that have iPhones and don't want to be tracked  ..... 

Method 1: Disable the location services
Disabling the location services on your iPhone will prevent anyone from tracking you using the Find My iPhone service.  You can either disable all location services for all apps or just for the Find My iPhone service.  To access the location services settings, tap the settings icon, tap "Privacy", then tap "Location Services".  You can either disable all location services by tapping the on/off switch at the top or scroll down to Find My iPhone, tap it, and then tap the on/off switch for "Find My iPhone"

Method 2: Disable the Find My iPhone Service
You can completely disable Find My iPhone by tapping Settings, then iCloud, then tap the on/off switch for Find My iPhone.  You can also delete the iCloud account from the phone by tapping DELETE at the bottom of the screen but be aware this will remove all iCloud services from your iPhone.

Method 3: Change your iCloud/Find My iPhone/AppleID password
If you prefer to leave Find My iPhone functional to track it should it become lost or stolen, but don't want someone else to track you, just change your iCloud/Find My iPhone password.  To change your iCloud/Apple ID password, log in to appleid.apple.com, select Manage your account, click Password and Security, then in the center of the screen, click "Change Password".  You will then have to enter your new password in your iPhone iCloud settings - be sure that you DON'T give the new password to your stalker/( wife/partner)  :lol:

Any of the methods above, or all combined will help prevent someone from tracking your location on your iPhone.

Offline Lz-129

Agree with all that Paris says, also a passcode lock which after 10 incorrect attempts the phone will wipe itself
Also as I use it as a camera I do back it up to my pc, the back up is password protected too so that should be safe
Dunno what ill say if found apart from maybe something like I am fixing for a mate and can't get past the password, that should be good enough
 

Curious6705


Yes but unless your planning to murder someone or rob a bank or something equally as bad the police wont go  to go to all the trouble of trying to triangulate your phone 
But with a iPhone /smart phone its a damm site easier to track someone and know what they have been up to

Triangulation might have been technically difficult 20 years ago - but it isn't now - even an iPhone can do it, more or less instantaneously. The same data the iPhone uses is available to the phone companies - they use it to manage their networks. How much detail they keep I don't know, but I recall reading posts by WGs who were unhappy that somehow the phone company they have their civvie phone with also knew about their "secret" work phone as well.

Offline blue

I know many of us keep a separate phone for punting. Question is where do you keep it away from the prying eyes? I am finding this more difficult to deal with than the punting money. Money, if found could be explained by saying 'saving up for ur b'day etc'. What the hell do you say when when an extra phone is found in the house. Advise please...

Just buy a cheap phone and use an unregistered sim card; make sure you enable the 'enter pin' on start-up option. If someone finds the phone, just lie and say it's an old phone that you had and conveniently forget the pin number...

Job done!


Offline smiths


Yes but unless your planning to murder someone or rob a bank or something equally as bad the police wont go  to go to all the trouble of trying to triangulate your phone 
But with a iPhone /smart phone its a damm site easier to track someone and know what they have been up to

You make a good point here, as well as giving good advice on other posts on this thread in my view.

I have always had a punting phone so i wasnt discovered as being a punter by my partner, not to avoid the police. The police and then those that specialize in phone tracking and all that could no doubt track me down if they so wished, they have my phone and CCTV they could use.

If say an appalling thing like a WG i had punted with was attacked or worse and my punt phone number was in her phone i wouldnt be surprised if they were able to track me down at all. If i thought i had any usual info and knew about the attack i would come forward anyway, and in the event of a serious attack or murder i would definitely come forward.

Offline crystaldenison

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iPhones are a pain . If you share a iTunes account on 2 iPhones or a iPhone then a iPad the other phone/pad can use find my phone and track your every move (street /map view )

 

iPhones are a pain . If you share a iTunes account on 2 iPhones or a iPhone then a iPad the other phone/pad can use find my phone and track your every move (street /map view )

But it is easy and free to setup a seperate iTunes account. I really do not need Angry Birds or Nana Mouskouri's Greatest Hits on my punting phone, so syncing and downloading apps is not that important

Offline Lz-129

You can share iTunes but make sure your punt phone is using a different apple ID, but for apps I use my main I'd as ill get em for free, not that I use many
But for everything else its a different ID,

Offline ParisB

You make a good point here, as well as giving good advice on other posts on this thread in my view.

I have always had a punting phone so i wasnt discovered as being a punter by my partner, not to avoid the police. The police and then those that specialize in phone tracking and all that could no doubt track me down if they so wished, they have my phone and CCTV they could use.

If say an appalling thing like a WG i had punted with was attacked or worse and my punt phone number was in her phone i wouldnt be surprised if they were able to track me down at all. If i thought i had any usual info and knew about the attack i would come forward anyway, and in the event of a serious attack or murder i would definitely come forward.

I speak from experience of the police tracking phones and phone numbers  because a few years ago there was a drive by shooting in Bristol and two people died and several other were injured. 
   One of the asshole involved in this had been ringing me constantly in the months prior to this happening but for an appointment but for some reason and i have no i idea why i didn't want to see him  maybe its was my instincts kicking in or something.
      But i mainly think it was because  he kept ringing really late at night even though i had said that i only worked till 9pm so it pissed me off so i never took his umpteen calls throughout the nights and following months and just ignored him full stop and never spoke to him or took a booking from him.

   However the police had got his phone at some point when investigating the crime  and obviously when checking all his numbers called were intrigued to know why he had been calling someone 24/7 all the time.  My phone wasn't registered at all  so they didn't know who I was  they just rang the number and asked to speak to the owner of the phone 
I totally shit myself when they rang initially  but the police were very nice and  understanding when I spoke to them and they realised that i hadn't hired him and his friends to murder someone and didn't even know the guy in question. 
   
  It really dose have to be a high profile case for the police to get involved in tracking a phone -  It cost money time and a lot of resources  to track a phone number and locate a phone especially if its not registered to anyone although its made a lot simpler now because of iPhones and  smartphones




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