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I'm posting this with a bit of reluctance (I wish that the meeting had gone ahead, or failing that that Kylie had given me a refund or the equivalent webcam time instead) and expecting a few pelters for sending a deposit despite having noticed that for all her feedback score on AW is decent enough it is all for webcamming and there is no feedback from an escort meeting which has gone ahead on her solo profile or her duo profile despite both having been around since September 2015.

Over the last 18 months I have had plenty of discussions with Kylie about an escort meeting and didn't really expect anything to come about. But around 2 months ago she gave me her skype address and asked me to talk with her there about a booking and when we got talking she gave me an email address to send a deposit in advance of a booking getting confirmed with the rest to be paid on arrival. In the past I have paid deposits in advance to see maybe half a dozen dominatrixes in Glasgow and never had a problem with those bookings going ahead. It was agreed I would send the deposit amount via paypal (send money to family and friends feature rather than paying for a service) and one evening the following week I would meet her or meet her and her partner for an incall and pay the balance then.

The day after sending the payment she no longer showed as being available on skype to chat with and all messages left for her there were no longer replied to. So I then tried emailing her (politely) on AW to ask about her availability for meeting and see what times were suitable. Again, no reply. When I saw here on directcam I went into her room and was promptly "kicked" out by her. When I saw her duo profile was on cam the same thing happened.

When I raised the matter with paypal they would not look into the case as it was showing as money sent to "family and friends" and was not a case of goods not sent or being damaged or not as described, and when I flagged things up with adultwork they said they did not get involved with cases of deposits for escort bookings.

The deposit money was sent on 23rd March 2017 and that was the last day I have heard from her on AW or skype. I had noticed a few negative reviews among all the positives for her webcamming and she tended to reply that clients had been rude or abusive and so I was careful to be polite when asking about booking confirmation and when that looked unlikely polite about asking for a refund. I also noticed one positive reviewer mentioning her outlook email address and asking if she got something he sent her there - it was an outlook email address that she asked the paypal deposit payment to be sent to. Part of the reason for posting this debut review is that when I saw that post I did wonder how many other people she had done this to, and part of me also thinks that it is totally unfair to take a deposit, not meet, not do a camshow instead, block the client and refuse to give a refund - she has taken a reasonable amount of money and provided zero in return. On a side note while she has a lote of admirers for her photos and cams I see it now says on her profile that there is no sound in any of her camshows lasting less than 25 minutes (£2.25 per minute meaning you have to over £56 on a camshow before she is happy to talk to you!).
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 02:13:08 am by camcorder »

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Should have added the fee we were looking at was £100 for half an hour!

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She is a fat ugly cow. Why would you even want to meet her. The profile screams money grabbing bitch. I reported her profile to AW when she first appeared as it was blatant she didn't escort.

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She is a fat ugly cow. Why would you even want to meet her. The profile screams money grabbing bitch. I reported her profile to AW when she first appeared as it was blatant she didn't escort.

I do wonder if she is even living in Glasgow and this is why you have to part with the best part of £60 before she'll speak on cam! Why did I want to meet... we had talked about some shared interest in the fetish scene and moresums and some of the time on cam and in photos I think she looks quite striking when she has the full make up and lipstick on.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 03:11:17 am by camcorder »


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I really don't want to stick the knife in further but I'm starting to develop a grudging respect for the hoors who can get away with this scam, there's a certain bravery involved in separating the punters from the mugs and separating the mugs from their money and still apparently working. 

Offline Clattypats

Should have added the fee we were looking at was £100 for half an hour!
Good on you for sticking the review up and alerting people, As i suggested in the other thread ;) :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 10:33:17 am by Clattypats »

Offline Happyjose

Bollocks to any criticism, you've had the balls to review and help other punters avoid this scamming bitch, so thanks OP.


Offline Clattypats

Bollocks to any criticism, you've had the balls to review and help other punters avoid this scamming bitch, so thanks OP.
Yip...it's information like this that is invaluable to other punters....so hats off :hi:

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I really don't want to stick the knife in further but I'm starting to develop a grudging respect for the hoors who can get away with this scam, there's a certain bravery involved in separating the punters from the mugs and separating the mugs from their money and still apparently working.

I probably suspected there was a chance no meet would take place but had thought that I would be covered by paypal and also that AW would take action about 1 member scamming another. Also as I indicated in my review, I have paid depsoits probably more than a dozen times to see dominatrixes (where it is standard practice in some dungeons to eliminate timewasters) and touring escorts and never had a problem until this case with kyliejugs. Still slightly bemused that when I have cammed with her from time to time for over 18 months that she has grabbed the deposit and not offered anything in return... she would have earned more in credits if she hadn't said she could meet and asked for the deposit.

Offline Happyjose

I probably suspected there was a chance no meet would take place but had thought that I would be covered by paypal and also that AW would take action about 1 member scamming another. Also as I indicated in my review, I have paid depsoits probably more than a dozen times to see dominatrixes (where it is standard practice in some dungeons to eliminate timewasters) and touring escorts and never had a problem until this case with kyliejugs. Still slightly bemused that when I have cammed with her from time to time for over 18 months that she has grabbed the deposit and not offered anything in return... she would have earned more in credits if she hadn't said she could meet and asked for the deposit.

You're making the fatal mistake of trying to understand prossie logic. They're only interested in your money, and most in working out the easiest way to get it with the minimum effort. Once your deposit was banked she was odds on to fuck you off. Few play the long game in my experience

Out of interest, how much was the deposit?

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You're making the fatal mistake of trying to understand prossie logic. They're only interested in your money, and most in working out the easiest way to get it with the minimum effort. Once your deposit was banked she was odds on to fuck you off. Few play the long game in my experience

Out of interest, how much was the deposit?

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I wonder if anyone will leap to kylie's defence and say they've met her and she's great?

Offline Clattypats

I wonder if anyone will leap to kylie's defence and say they've met her and she's great?
considering she's been a member on AW since September 2015 and only has one review(yours)...I would go along with the theory that she doesn't maybe Escort as opposed to CAM :unknown:

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considering she's been a member on AW since September 2015 and only has one review(yours)...I would go along with the theory that she doesn't maybe Escort as opposed to CAM :unknown:

Part of the scam was saying she didn't want escort feedback showing on her AW profile and didn't accept escort bookings through AW so she was only left cam feedback there.

Offline Clattypats

Part of the scam was saying she didn't want escort feedback showing on her AW profile and didn't accept escort bookings through AW so she was only left cam feedback there.
An Escort that doesn't want FB on her profile..All very strange... :rolleyes: :wackogirl:
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 12:29:22 pm by Clattypats »

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An Escort that doesn't want FB n her profile..All very strange... :rolleyes: :wackogirl:

I know a few who like to get good feedback in the early days of setting up a profile and then don't seek new feedback after a while in case the authorities are paying attention but no feedback at all is weird!

Offline Clattypats

I know a few who like to get good feedback in the early days of setting up a profile and then don't seek new feedback after a while in case the authorities are paying attention but no feedback at all is weird!
:thumbsup:

Offline Clattypats

I know a few who like to get good feedback in the early days of setting up a profile and then don't seek new feedback after a while in case the authorities are paying attention but no feedback at all is weird!
I had looked at her profile a year or so ago..but never acted on it as something didn't sit right with me :bomb: ....seems my gut instinct was right :)

Offline DrGFreeman

I would say whether she wants feedback as an escort or not is irreverent
I'd create a dummy escort booking to leave feedback to say she scammed you.
You took the time to post a review here, why not on AW  ?

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I think I said in my review that it looks like she has blocked me on AW - emails to her solo and duo accounts asking about confirming a booking date and time have not been read or replied to, ditto emails about  refund and she has permanently kicked me out of her cam rooms (solo and duo) as well.

Offline Happyjose

I would say whether she wants feedback as an escort or not is irreverent
I'd create a dummy escort booking to leave feedback to say she scammed you.
You took the time to post a review here, why not on AW  ?

At a guess, I would say as there has been a banking transfer involved the OP may want to avoid outing himself

Offline DrGFreeman

I think I said in my review that it looks like she has blocked me on AW - emails to her solo and duo accounts asking about confirming a booking date and time have not been read or replied to, ditto emails about  refund and she has permanently kicked me out of her cam rooms (solo and duo) as well.

honestly, I dont know what happens when you're blocked, but generally you can leave feedback without a confirmed booking
once the time of the booking has past, you can leave feedback for the booking but it shows as 'feedback only'

Offline Bobbins1973

I would say whether she wants feedback as an escort or not is irreverent
I'd create a dummy escort booking to leave feedback to say she scammed you.
You took the time to post a review here, why not on AW  ?

I did similar when someone robbed me and despite the threats of hiring a private detective and some heavies to get me she was forced to create a new profile and a series of lost potential bookings

Offline TommyMoundfrigger

Bollocks to any criticism, you've had the balls to review and help other punters avoid this scamming bitch, so thanks OP.

+1

As was also said in another thread,  negative reviews can sometimes be more helpful than positive ones although punters don't like (or want) to do them in case they are ridiculed (as above)

Thank you OP.

Offline Cactus

She's utter pondlife, I've spoken to her in free cam a couple of times and she comes accriss as dodgy, always some excuse not to do something or other.

She won't get her pussy out on webcam or have any sound unless you book for over 25 minutes, as the OP states (in regard sound). So you're spending nearly £60 to be deemed worthwhile if seeing her pussy, away and shite hen! This is clearly a con as well, who stays on cam that long without getting to see something.

She's also not nearly as fit looking on cam as she is on her profile pics.

No time for scammers, got done early doors in my punting life paying a £120 deposit to Lily Villain (who is seen before several times) only to be fed excuse after excuse about how she couldn't see me or pay me back...

Why the secrecy as to how much deposit was paid? Be interesting to know how much she values her reputation at...

As for the girl (& her bloke) in question, utterly full of shite and her own self importance. I hope her next shites a hedgehog.

Offline Clattypats

Looks like a resounding....Steer clear of her then! :bomb:.....and rightly so... :wackogirl:

Offline Clattypats

Has anyone else reported her on AW yet....Think she deserves it..The mad bint :wackogirl:

Offline GucciMane

Has anyone else reported her on AW yet....Think she deserves it..The mad bint :wackogirl:

aye she's a fuckin chancer

Offline jamesdean1964

Has anyone else reported her on AW yet....Think she deserves it..The mad bint :wackogirl:

A lot of guy scammed won't post it, for fear of being ridiculed on here. So all the more a big thank you to the OP for the heads up.

Offline Clattypats

aye she's a fuckin chancer
A chancer that...Hopefully when people read this review..WONT take that chance anymore..Think she's a few sandwiches short of a picnic anyway :bomb:...and has a few Aliases on AW ... :wackogirl:

Offline Clattypats

A lot of guy scammed won't post it, for fear of being ridiculed on here. So all the more a big thank you to the OP for the heads up.
:thumbsup:

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Thanks everyone... I don't feel quite as foolish now and hope it has helped others.

Offline tazman1002001

I did similar when someone robbed me and despite the threats of hiring a private detective and some heavies to get me she was forced to create a new profile and a series of lost potential bookings

So cmon share the name of the one who robbed you... It could really help it not happening to someone else here.
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Offline tazman1002001

Thanks everyone... I don't feel quite as foolish now and hope it has helped others.

Did you report her on Adulwork for robbing you .... I'm sure that would be more than enough to get her profile taken down
Banned reason: White-knight abusing facility to change another punters negative review and then getting abusive after his touting and white-knighting is exposed. Previously banned for similar reasons.
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Did you report her on Adulwork for robbing you .... I'm sure that would be more than enough to get her profile taken down

As my OP states I reported her to paypal and adultwork and both sites did nothing. AW said they can't ever do anything about deposits for escort bookings.

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She defo lives in Glasgow. Seen her about plenty. Not much of a glesga accent tho wich is a shame. Tried too book with her before but heard nothing back. Seen this and thot I'd say. She's a pretty lass but the least she could do is remove saying she escorts so we no

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Av spoke to her in free chat a few times and she says she live on [Removed by admin]? No much there like worth goin down and seein if you can catch her about?

Offline Happyjose

She's joined up to complain about her (partial) address being discussed

No mention of the scamming accusation



James999

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She's joined up to complain about her (partial) address being discussed

No mention of the scamming accusation

If she's scamming then outing her address / details is fair game, if she doesn't like it she can always stop scamming or just Fuck off  :thumbsup:

Her shit tone with admin is an indication that her membership here is likely to be fairly short
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 05:38:07 pm by James999 »

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As my OP states I reported her to paypal and adultwork and both sites did nothing. AW said they can't ever do anything about deposits for escort bookings.

AW don't give a shit.

Paypal however do, contact them again and advise them that she is offering sexual services and that is a breach of their terms and conditions, they have to act then  :thumbsup:

Offline S_holmes

If she's scamming then outing her address / details is fair game, if she doesn't like it she can always stop scamming or just Fuck off  :thumbsup:

Her shit tone with admin is an indication that her membership here is likely to be fairly short



That is one cheeky mare :mad:

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Perhaps pass her details to HMRC to check that her tax is up to date, correct and all AW income declared  :unknown:

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That is one cheeky mare :mad:
Well...tough shit to her :wackogirl: ...Hope she read the rest of the thread to see how much of a scamming boot we all think she is! ... Shame she couldn't come on and explain that... :crazy:

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That is one cheeky mare

Not very bright though, as she has brought this thread to the top of the forum, and by reporting it brought it to the attention of a lot more people  :music:

Hopefully HMRC can check her out  :hi: After all if she's done nothing wrong and paid correct tax she has nothing to worry about.

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Offline henry brubaker

Perhaps pass her details to HMRC to check that her tax is up to date, correct and all AW income declared  :unknown:

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Do this. You have her street, and I'm guessing you have her real name from her PayPal account.