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Offline philboi

I used to think it was shy punters but this type of thread has come up a few times now and i'm starting to think it's by anti-bareback prossies on the campaign. If they get a few names or a list (which seems to be the whole point) they can name and shame other prossies or punters that have :unknown:

I really hope you're not suggesting I'm an 'anti-bareback prossie' as that would far from the truth!!

If you think a ticked, unticked, advertised or not advertised service is a guarantee or re-assurance of someone's sexual health then you are deluded.   :hi:

I'm fully aware it's a tricky road to go down seeing a WG, but the more information one has the better armed we are to book one that's clean!! 

Offline NIK

How many times have we got to hear people say I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?

The top and bottom is no one knows what anyone else gets up to at other times. No one has a clue whether a prossy, or indeed a punter they see, has done bb with others. You either have to trust people or don't bother punting.
The safest method of all is abstention.

Offline LL

The top and bottom is no one knows what anyone else gets up to at other times. No one has a clue whether a prossy, or indeed a punter they see, has done bb with others.
Exactly.  And if she has a poor grasp of English then she'll have had help in getting set up to work here.  That in turn makes it much more likely that she's got a pimp/boyfriend who fucks her (and probably his other girls) BB whenever he likes!

Offline philboi

How many times have we got to hear people say I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?


I don't know.... How many times have you heard people say, I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?

The point is, if we knew, then we can make an informed choice to see them or not!

Offline lovingfacials

I'm not just trying to be a prick but why?  I expect most of the EE girls that do it just do what their pimp says. 

Most of us (maybe not all but probably most) have barebacked a civvy girl on a Friday night?  Young people I work with continue to do so.

Wilts

here's the basic fact - yes you may be right the chances/ratios maybe low HOWEVER...............are your prepared to gamble and be proved wrong????

I suspect the answer is no, I agree back in the day I have fucked a bird I pulled in a club b/b but we are talking early 80's and never since late 80's when the HIV/AIDS ADVERTS were first shown (tombstones falling)

I wouldnt fuck a 'hood rat' if I pulled one in a bar now bareback and I sure as eggs are eggs am not fucking a girl who fucks me for her living bareback.......

condoms at least lower what (in your opinion) is a low risk............great becuase 1% is to high a risk for me to take

Offline Hetfield

How many times have we got to hear people say I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?

The top and bottom is no one knows what anyone else gets up to at other times. No one has a clue whether a prossy, or indeed a punter they see, has done bb with others. You either have to trust people or don't bother punting.
The safest method of all is abstention.

That's completely true - no one can. However, you can avoid the prolific ones that advertise, and you can avoid the ones that don't advertise it, but offer it, by punters reporting here.

As I said before, the risk isn't reduced by avoiding WG's that are prolific barebackers; there is always the chance of an STD. However, the CHANCE is reduced by punting smart. A girlWG that fucks bareback 100 times a month has more CHANCE of catching/transmitting an STD than a girl/WG that fucks only once a month bareback.

It's just like the lottery. I buy one ticket and I've got once chance to win. I buy 100 tickets, and I've got 100 chances to win. The odd's are still the same, but my chances have gone up 100 times what they were ;)

Offline Dani

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Thing is in this industry surely it is better to assume everyone you see does bareback with someone.  Even prossies who don't offer this service may well have BB with a partner.  Not all but I should imagine quite a lot do.  When I first started I still did with my partner but that stopped after my first client
If you assume everyone does it with someone then you can decide if the risk is worth it or not.

I take phone bookings so I don't know if the guy I see is a barebacker or not.   I just assume he is and take the precautions I need to keep myself as safe as I can.

I see it on girls profiles that they wont see anyone who has seen a BB girl or who likes BB but they also take phone bookings so stating this is pointless as they really don't know who they are seeing or what services they use. 

Just see who you want but assume they do BB with someone and you can work out if the risk of certain services is worth it for you

I won't see a girl who does bareback. Obvious health reasons. Probably most of the time they'll not offer the service assuming that all punters want the service and then refuse flat out once someone is at their doorstep.

Wiltsboy01

I take all these points but what I am getting at is someone like this:



Who has just come to the UK and is offering bareback really likely to have HIV or Hepatitis?  Anything else is a minor risk to life at the end of the day - risk to relationships may be a different matter of course.  There were about 200,000 new sti diagnoses in the UK in 2010 (excluding chlamydia) set against Christ knows how many individual 'sexual relations' as Bill Clinton put it.

That said I'm not a prolific barebacker at all.

Offline Dani

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Who has just come to the UK and is offering bareback really likely to have HIV or Hepatitis? 

She is just as likely to have an STI as anyone else.  Just because she is new to the UK does not mean she did not contract an infection working in her home country or even on a one night stand.

To think someone is probably risk free because they have just come to the UK is pretty daft thinking as you have no idea what she was like or what she did in her home country

Wiltsboy01

To think someone is probably risk free because they have just come to the UK is pretty daft thinking as you have no idea what she was like or what she did in her home country

What I'm getting at is she was probably just 'the girl next door' in her own country :)

I banged an EE who was 19 on her ID and was defo not experienced, that is the gist of my argument.

Offline cunnyhunt

I don't know.... How many times have you heard people say, I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?

The point is, if we knew, then we can make an informed choice to see them or not!

If you made a search of the site before posting it would answer your question.

Your posting style is that of a female.   :bomb:

Offline fredpunter

I take all these points but what I am getting at is someone like this:



Who has just come to the UK and is offering bareback really likely to have HIV or Hepatitis?  Anything else is a minor risk to life at the end of the day - risk to relationships may be a different matter of course.  There were about 200,000 new sti diagnoses in the UK in 2010 (excluding chlamydia) set against Christ knows how many individual 'sexual relations' as Bill Clinton put it.

That said I'm not a prolific barebacker at all.

she may well have been fucked by her pimp .... but I guess they are always keen on health and safety

Offline philboi

If you made a search of the site before posting it would answer your question.

Your posting style is that of a female.   :bomb:

When I said "I don't know" added to NIK's comment "How many times have you heard people say, I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?"
It was meant to mean I don't care because I then followed it with:

"The point is, if we knew, then we can make an informed choice to see them or not!"

Also, If you made a search of the site before posting it would answer your question about my gender - I'm MALE.. as is verified by my AW feedback and the many females I've seen over the years..  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: June 02, 2013, 08:44:51 AM by philboi »

Offline NIK

When I said "I don't know" added to NIK's comment "How many times have you heard people say, I would never see a prossy that I know does bb even if I was covered?"
It was meant to mean I don't care because I then followed it with:

"The point is, if we knew, then we can make an informed choice to see them or not!"

Also, If you made a search of the site before posting it would answer your question about my gender - I'm MALE.. as is verified by my AW feedback and the many females I've seen over the years..  :thumbsup:

But the fact is we don't know and can never know for certain.
Many punters say 'I would never see a girl who offers bb.' Fair enough, but how do you know the ones who say they don't do bb actually really don't?
Conversely there are also a significant percentage of those that claim to offer bb who actually don't.

Offline philboi

But the fact is we don't know and can never know for certain.
Many punters say 'I would never see a girl who offers bb.' Fair enough, but how do you know the ones who say they don't do bb actually really don't?
Conversely there are also a significant percentage of those that claim to offer bb who actually don't.

Absolutely true... and I guess it shows the whole thing is a minefield. You can never be sure one way or the other  :scare:

Offline Cactus

She is just as likely to have an STI as anyone else.  Just because she is new to the UK does not mean she did not contract an infection working in her home country or even on a one night stand.

To think someone is probably risk free because they have just come to the UK is pretty daft thinking as you have no idea what she was like or what she did in her home country

Dani, don't you know that they don't have STI's in Romania, Poland, The Czech Republic, Hungary and any other Country where women come from to sell sex in the UK.  That's a fact cos I just typed it.

I take all these points but what I am getting at is someone like this:



Who has just come to the UK and is offering bareback really likely to have HIV or Hepatitis?  Anything else is a minor risk to life at the end of the day - risk to relationships may be a different matter of course.  There were about 200,000 new sti diagnoses in the UK in 2010 (excluding chlamydia) set against Christ knows how many individual 'sexual relations' as Bill Clinton put it.

That said I'm not a prolific barebacker at all.

All it takes is for one punter before you to have an STI and chances are you will get it, even the girl next door who only had sex once could have something, without being checked out you will never know. There are several STIs that don't present obvious symptoms for a long time so you really are taking a big gamble. You can't assume that just because she has only just come to this country that she hasn't been banged like a screen door in a storm back where she came from and the fact that she is over here being pimped out means she is pretty desperate for cash so doesn't really care much for your health, only that she earns her quota.

As for there only being 200,000 diagnosed cases of an STI in one year, how many people actually get tested? it's not that many because many people have this blissfully ignorant attitude that it can't possibly be them that has something because they only go bareback with what they believe to be clean girls.

Offline CatBBW

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What I'm getting at is she was probably just 'the girl next door' in her own country :)

I banged an EE who was 19 on her ID and was defo not experienced, that is the gist of my argument.

What if the punter she saw before you also did BB? And he was infected? And thus you were getting his sloppy seconds? And what if the WG didn't contract a disease, but you did?

Offline philboi

What if the punter she saw before you also did BB? And he was infected? And thus you were getting his sloppy seconds? And what if the WG didn't contract a disease, but you did?

Not sure that's possible!

Either the WG contracts the disease and passes it on or she doesn't and punters after would be safe!
Correct me if I'm wrong please??

Offline Ludwig



Not sure that's possible!

Either the WG contracts the disease and passes it on or she doesn't and punters after would be safe!
Correct me if I'm wrong please??

For someone who has punted as long & as frequently as you claim, your naivety is a little scary...



Offline LL

Not sure that's possible!

Either the WG contracts the disease and passes it on or she doesn't and punters after would be safe!
Correct me if I'm wrong please??
OK, you're wrong.
But anyway you really shouldn't be seeking clarification / reassurances here on this forum as to what constitutes being "safe" regarding sexual health.
Try here instead: http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Sexualhealthtopics/Pages/Sexual-health-hub.aspx
or talk to your doctor / local GUM clinic.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2013, 02:01:34 PM by LL »

Offline philboi

OK, you're wrong.
But anyway you really shouldn't be seeking clarification / reassurances here on this forum as to what constitutes being "safe" regarding sexual health.
Try here instead: http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Sexualhealthtopics/Pages/Sexual-health-hub.aspx
or talk to your doctor / local GUM clinic.

Interesting!!

I wasn't seeking reassurance, only asking a question... and with regards to safe sex. I'm rather choosy about who I see plus I do have regular check ups even though I always use a condom!!!

But hey, thanks for the advice :)

Offline philboi


For someone who has punted as long & as frequently as you claim, your naivety is a little scary...

Personally, I find it a lot scarier that punters will go BB, don't you?

Personally, I find it a lot scarier that punters will go BB, don't you?
no, I do not.


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