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Offline marty

Why, because you post saying you have evidence which if the case makes whats your opinions actual fact where the evidence you have is concerned.

Not at all surprised you wont supply the evidence, just another total bullshitter in a long line on punting forums, the best you can do is pick holes in my reply to you, woeful, but as ever thanks for the chuckle.

I do have evidence, I have emails from individuals discussing bb sex with WGs and the same punters (with the email addy linked to their board profile) are on boards claiming the opposite. I am not going to out them to you or anyone else. Like that or lump it.

Glad you think it's a chuckle, and thanks for the insults. That won't alter anything though, especially the truth.  Have a real nice day.

Offline marty

Indeed, as i posted another total bullshitter who when asked to supply the evidence wont, surprise, surprise, not. How these people actually believe we are all as thick as two short planks still always amazes me.. :hi:

Perpetual denial amongst the pack, a sad way of life.  Clearly you are closed minded, not open for discussion on certain topics and unable to accept anything you haven't convinced yourself about. That doesn't amaze me one bit.

Offline marty

There's a world of difference between some and most which is what you said in your OP.

Yes I did, I also sad "you can bet" which means I do not know the numbers but my opinion is "most".  You are doing what many people do, reading one thing and interpreting it as something else.

And in any case, the AW feedback is only one area where this has come to light so that does not form all of my opinion on this, I have seen these liars time and time again through different avenues.


Offline marty

How anyone can expect me to share personal emails with a complete stranger who also suggests he might make them public is beyond me. No matter, I'm done with this thread, I have said too many times already that it is pointless so I am being an idiot to myself.

Go ahead and have the last word, post what you will, it will not change anything not one single thing including the many bb liars on punting boards.

marty.


Offline smiths

I do have evidence, I have emails from individuals discussing bb sex with WGs and the same punters (with the email addy linked to their board profile) are on boards claiming the opposite. I am not going to out them to you or anyone else. Like that or lump it.

Glad you think it's a chuckle, and thanks for the insults. That won't alter anything though, especially the truth.  Have a real nice day.

Once again the usual from your ilk, who often post you have emails but it relies on me believing your word for that, a total stranger who posts the drivel you do. As though i am going to believe a word you say. I need the evidence, only seeing the evidence will persuade me, and unless you have multi thousands of these emails from different punters it wouldnt prove its widespread that punters who post they practice BB actually dont of course, at least sometimes.

The number of Trolls who over the years refer to having emails and PMs that support them or prove the point they are posting about, i cant recall one who was proved to have been telling the truth, most got banned for breaking the rules sooner or later.

If you dont wish to or cant produce the evidence then all you have is your opinion, you cant cite evidence then not produce it and expect everyone to simply take your word for it, surely you realise this. So it comes down to your opinion, and there you can post what you like within the rules.

Offline smiths

Yes I did, I also sad "you can bet" which means I do not know the numbers but my opinion is "most".  You are doing what many people do, reading one thing and interpreting it as something else.

And in any case, the AW feedback is only one area where this has come to light so that does not form all of my opinion on this, I have seen these liars time and time again through different avenues.

Yet dont supply the evidence to prove it. Just like with most which is your opinion, so is everything else you post on this unless you produce proof to back up saying you have it. Its all quite simple, you are expecting posters to just blindly believe you have evidence which you say you wont produce.

Offline smiths

Perpetual denial amongst the pack, a sad way of life.  Clearly you are closed minded, not open for discussion on certain topics and unable to accept anything you haven't convinced yourself about. That doesn't amaze me one bit.

So enlighten me by showing the evidence to me.

Offline smiths

How anyone can expect me to share personal emails with a complete stranger who also suggests he might make them public is beyond me. No matter, I'm done with this thread, I have said too many times already that it is pointless so I am being an idiot to myself.

Go ahead and have the last word, post what you will, it will not change anything not one single thing including the many bb liars on punting boards.

marty.

Your the one that posted you had evidence, all i asked was to see it to prove it to me which i wouldnt promise i wouldnt post on the forum, the onus is on you to realise if you post such a thing a poster might ask to see it. In fact to me its obvious, clearly not to you, presumably you think everyone will just believe you out of faith in your honesty. Dream on.

Offline marty

Once again the usual from your ilk, who often post you have emails but it relies on me believing your word for that, a total stranger who posts the drivel you do. As though i am going to believe a word you say. I need the evidence, only seeing the evidence will persuade me, and unless you have multi thousands of these emails from different punters it wouldnt prove its widespread that punters who post they practice BB actually dont of course, at least sometimes.

The number of Trolls who over the years refer to having emails and PMs that support them or prove the point they are posting about, i cant recall one who was proved to have been telling the truth, most got banned for breaking the rules sooner or later.

If you dont wish to or cant produce the evidence then all you have is your opinion, you cant cite evidence then not produce it and expect everyone to simply take your word for it, surely you realise this. So it comes down to your opinion, and there you can post what you like within the rules.

"The number of Trolls who over the years refer to having emails and PMs" and yet you want me to PM you so that you can tell everyone I do have evidence?  Or do I then have to share it with others, and more until what? ROFL.

Thank UKP for the oracle that is Smiths.  You're actually quite funny.

I said it was "my opinion" from the outset, "This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience". If you don't like or agree with what I base it on that's your problem, but I was nice enough to share why I have my opinion. But it's nice that you finally got around to understanding at last.  And yes, I accept that people can make their own minds up, I just wish some would do it quietly, much like the subject of bareback sex.

"total bullshitter"

The words of a rude loser.

"your ilk"  "these people"

The words of a philistine.

Offline marty

Your the one that posted you had evidence, all i asked was to see it to prove it to me which i wouldnt promise i wouldnt post on the forum, the onus is on you to realise if you post such a thing a poster might ask to see it. In fact to me its obvious, clearly not to you, presumably you think everyone will just believe you out of faith in your honesty. Dream on.

I think those that profess one thing while doing something else don't like being challenged, and they tend to shout the loudest. As someone once said on another board..  "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." In this case it's no lady.

Offline smiths

"The number of Trolls who over the years refer to having emails and PMs" and yet you want me to PM you so that you can tell everyone I do have evidence?  Or do I then have to share it with others, and more until what? ROFL.

Thank UKP for the oracle that is Smiths.  You're actually quite funny.

I said it was "my opinion" from the outset, "This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience". If you don't like or agree with what I base it on that's your problem, but I was nice enough to share why I have my opinion. But it's nice that you finally got around to understanding at last.  And yes, I accept that people can make their own minds up, I just wish some would do it quietly, much like the subject of bareback sex.

"total bullshitter"

The words of a rude loser.

"your ilk"  "these people"

The words of a philistine.

You posted you have evidence yet dont prove it when asked, thats my problem, what use is posting you have evidence if you cant prove it exists.

Offline smiths

I think those that profess one thing while doing something else don't like being challenged, and they tend to shout the loudest. As someone once said on another board..  "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." In this case it's no lady.

Classic, a well used Troll line this is, switch it back onto someone who has challenged you and who you cant answer or in this case supply what they have asked for. Woeful, again.

Offline Daffodil

You posted you have evidence yet dont prove it when asked, thats my problem, what use is posting you have evidence if you cant prove it exists.

I agree with this.

People claim they have evidence purely to try and add weight to their opinion. However, if it isn't forthcoming, it undermines them and makes them look a bit foolish.

Some of marty's points are fair enough. I'm sure there are more punters who seek bareback than claim to, hence the market for it. Ditto the prossies, more offer it than you'd think looking at profiles.

Offline skittish



Some of marty's points are fair enough. I'm sure there are more punters who seek bareback than claim to, hence the market for it. Ditto the prossies, more offer it than you'd think looking at profiles.

Of course some punters say one thing and do the opposite, I didn't like the way Marty insinuated that most anti barebackers as he says are liars who are actively seeking out the girls numbers on these threads. That's just bullshit IMO there are thousands of barebackers on AW with numbers. Why would most seek there numbers on a forum.

Offline Daffodil

Of course some punters say one thing and do the opposite, I didn't like the way Marty insinuated that most anti barebackers as he says are liars who are actively seeking out the girls numbers on these threads. That's just bullshit IMO there are thousands of barebackers on AW with numbers. Why would most seek there numbers on a forum.

Yeh, that did strike me as bollocks. It was no surprise his evidence wasn't forthcoming.

Offline punk

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Offline marty

You posted you have evidence yet dont prove it when asked, thats my problem, what use is posting you have evidence if you cant prove it exists.

I'll try again;  I posted "This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience".  From the very outset I said that it was and is my opinion.

In addition I can prove it but I choose not to, the reason is that I don't care whether you believe me or not nor do I trust you enough to share it with you. This is not personal, I just don't know you well enough.  Despite that, everything I have said, is true.

Classic, a well used Troll line this is, switch it back onto someone who has challenged you and who you cant answer or in this case supply what they have asked for. Woeful, again.

That is not what my post was doing, I was not switching the challenge back to you. The fact you don't understand me renders any further discussion genuinely pointless, again a bit like the subject of bb.

One last point though,  I am not a troll.  However, calling someone (who is clearly not) a troll in order to win an argument is classic evidence of losing that argument.

One last time, all IMHO.  In My Humble Opinion

Offline smiths

Of course some punters say one thing and do the opposite, I didn't like the way Marty insinuated that most anti barebackers as he says are liars who are actively seeking out the girls numbers on these threads. That's just bullshit IMO there are thousands of barebackers on AW with numbers. Why would most seek there numbers on a forum.

Indeed, and then he did the old classic Troll switch on me, i post about it so must really be doing it myself, thats usually the last stand position of posters that have lost the argument as they couldnt provide what was asked. They are annoyed at their utter stupidity to have let themselves be boxed into a corner with what they have posted so are lashing.

Come on here with opinions as posters wish, dont come on here citing you have evidence but wont be producing it is my advice. :hi:

Offline marty

Of course some punters say one thing and do the opposite, I didn't like the way Marty insinuated that most anti barebackers as he says are liars who are actively seeking out the girls numbers on these threads. That's just bullshit IMO there are thousands of barebackers on AW with numbers. Why would most seek there numbers on a forum.

The lack of correct interpretation is staggering, is it deliberate?

I did not say or suggest that most barebacking punters seek out numbers on a forum, I didn't even come close to suggesting that. In fact I would suggest that most bbing punters probably don't even use forums. That's my opinion by the way. 

Once again I said:
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As it goes you can bet your bollocks most of the anti-bb brigade are lying and would like the 'name and shame' just to get the girls' numbers.  This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience.

How many AW girls have said and state on their profiles:  "FAQ Will I do bareback? Probably the most frequently asked question of all"

I have seen that too many times to count them. I may be wrong though, this is only my opinion based on experience and past evidence.

What I do know is that some of the most vocal anti-bb punters on other boards have been doing the exact opposite.

Offline marty

Indeed, and then he did the old classic Troll switch on me, i post about it so must really be doing it myself, thats usually the last stand position of posters that have lost the argument as they couldnt provide what was asked. They are annoyed at their utter stupidity to have let themselves be boxed into a corner with what they have posted so are lashing.

Come on here with opinions as posters wish, dont come on here citing you have evidence but wont be producing it is my advice. :hi:

I'll be sure to take your advice Smiths, what was it again?

Offline smiths

I'll try again;  I posted "This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience".  From the very outset I said that it was and is my opinion.

In addition I can prove it but I choose not to, the reason is that I don't care whether you believe me or not nor do I trust you enough to share it with you. This is not personal, I just don't know you well enough.  Despite that, everything I have said, is true.

That is not what my post was doing, I was not switching the challenge back to you. The fact you don't understand me renders any further discussion genuinely pointless, again a bit like the subject of bb.

One last point though,  I am not a troll.  However, calling someone (who is clearly not) a troll in order to win an argument is classic evidence of losing that argument.

One last time, all IMHO.  In My Humble Opinion

Is this your final, final, final word, you said you had evidence and even said later you had emails that prove it as you mention here, thats not your opinion, its a statement of fact if true.  Prove you have this evidence was all i asked, otherwise it comes down to me blindly believing your word which i wont be doing.

Offline smiths

I'll be sure to take your advice Smiths, what was it again?

Thats it, try another Troll trick next, try to undermine me. Yet again your woeful. You posted you had evidence, prove it.

Offline skittish

The lack of correct interpretation is staggering, is it deliberate?

I did not say or suggest that most barebacking punters seek out numbers on a forum, I didn't even come close to suggesting that. In fact I would suggest that most bbing punters probably don't even use forums. That's my opinion by the way. 



You know what long drawn out arguments bore me and usually go round in circles. I've offered a different opinion to your own and I'm going to move on. I will for your benefit quote you just in case you don't remember what you actually posted.

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As it goes you can bet your bollocks most of the anti-bb brigade are lying and would like the'name and shame' just to get the girls' numbers.  This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience.

Think they are the key points covered.

Offline marty

Is this your final, final, final word, you said you had evidence and even said later you had emails that prove it as you mention here, thats not your opinion, its a statement of fact if true.  Prove you have this evidence was all i asked, otherwise it comes down to me blindly believing your word which i wont be doing.

Good, please don't believe me. 

You are not discussing you are arguing and have been from the outset where I stated that it was my opinion. Had you wanted to discuss the issue you would not try and lecture me on what you think I ought to post.  You are rude, arrogant, offensive and your attempt at speaking out for the collective that is UKP by referring to me as "your ilk"  "these people" "troll" and then rallying with your buddies to talk 'about me' as though I'm not here is classic.

You made a mistake when you read my first post, when I said "This is my opinion, based on evidence and experience" there is nothing to argue about because it is my opinion and it matters not what I based it on. You read "evidence" and decided you wanted to see it, well no, I'm just not going to qualify that with you.

My final word?  None of your business just like it's none of mine when you decide to post yours.

Offline marty

You know what long drawn out arguments bore me and usually go round in circles. I've offered a different opinion to your own and I'm going to move on. I will for your benefit quote you just in case you don't remember what you actually posted.

Think they are the key points covered.

And you think that highlighting a few words to alter the entire context of a sentence proves what?  Unbelievable.


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