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Offline marty

I mentioned this before and it's happened again, it really pisses me off!   :angry:

Texted a number on a profile, no reply. Rang from personal phone (number withheld) diverted to voice mail.  Emailed the girl via AW, asked what it takes to get an answer?  She won't reply to texts or withheld number "for her security".

Will someone explain what will happen to her if she responds to a text?  How is it helping her security or whatever other bollox she wants to claim if I ring her from a pay phone or from a brand new disposable PAYG sim card? 

Why do they want punters to ring them as (calls from withheld numbers and SMS messages will be ignored)?  It could be anyone at the other end recording punters voices or god knows what, much safer for BOTH parties to text in my view.

I use a sim with a credits for unlimited texts but no calls, she gets to see my number I get to protect my ID. To my mind punters should start boycotting girls who insist on this no texts rubbish.  end rant! 


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how will ringing from a pay phone be secure as all it gives if it is a pay phone that shows number is area guy ringing from
 not who he is or a contact number for him as you have with a text


Offline ladyofthemansion

I don't mind a text but when it turns in to text tennis I ask them to call. I won't give information or address to a texter as I like to speak first. But an initial couple of texts to organise a time is ok.

As for withheld numbers I will answer them and ask them to call off a number that's not private as I have never had a genuine caller from a private number.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 07:24:49 PM by ladyofthemansion »

Offline Ali Katt

how will ringing from a pay phone be secure as all it gives if it is a pay phone that shows number is area guy ringing from
 not who he is or a contact number for him as you have with a text
He means it doesn't help an escort's security because it is anonymous.

 ladyofthemansion has answered this it is more likely to be genuine if they call.

If an escort doesn't answer the phone or it goes to voice mail they don't get a booking off me. The witheld number thing I think is to deter phone wankers, I don't think it provides security for the reasons you mention.

Offline ladyofthemansion

You've summed it up Ali but if you phone a girl and she doesn't reply she could be busy at that moment in time with a punter.

Offline marty

I don't mind a text but when it turns in to text tennis I ask them to call. I won't give information or address to a texter as I like to speak first. But an initial couple of texts to organise a time is ok.

As for withheld numbers I will answer them and ask them to call off a number that's not private as I have never had a genuine caller from a private number.

Fucking off the text tennis players is understandable but, "I won't give information or address to a texter as I like to speak first"..... Why the fuck not?  I've shagged hundreds of women all arranged via text so I'm lost about what the issue is??

He means it doesn't help an escort's security because it is anonymous.

 ladyofthemansion has answered this it is more likely to be genuine if they call.

If an escort doesn't answer the phone or it goes to voice mail they don't get a booking off me. The witheld number thing I think is to deter phone wankers, I don't think it provides security for the reasons you mention.

Thanks for understanding.  As for fone wankers I can understand but ffs isn't this about contact via methods that are mutually agreeable?  I will NEVER EVER phone a WG before I am convinced that she is genuine so first contact MUST be via text or email.

Offline ParisB

I mentioned this before and it's happened again, it really pisses me off!   :angry:

Texted a number on a profile, no reply. Rang from personal phone (number withheld) diverted to voice mail.  Emailed the girl via AW, asked what it takes to get an answer?  She won't reply to texts or withheld number "for her security".

Will someone explain what will happen to her if she responds to a text?  How is it helping her security or whatever other bollox she wants to claim if I ring her from a pay phone or from a brand new disposable PAYG sim card? 

Why do they want punters to ring them as (calls from withheld numbers and SMS messages will be ignored)?  It could be anyone at the other end recording punters voices or god knows what, much safer for BOTH parties to text in my view.

I use a sim with a credits for unlimited texts but no calls, she gets to see my number I get to protect my ID. To my mind punters should start boycotting girls who insist on this no texts rubbish.  end rant!






Personally  I would never give my address or take a booking without speaking to someone first  - unless its a regular client   but thats just me, I like to hear the voice of the person that I'm going to be fucking at some point,  might be a bit strange to to some but thats just me.  And I'm at a total loss as to why the fuck you would think an escort would want to record a punter voice and what she is going to do with it is beyond me.

   I'm sure that other escorts or happy to take a booking without speaking to the person at all but personally You just need to find those that will take bookings by text  and boycott those that wont take booking the way that you personally want to book 
 
  Myself i want to speak to the person  i want to give the client  all the details of the service that i do and the price  That way there is no mistake no  arriving and  the guy thinking that you do xxx when you don't  offer xxx and it says that on the website /profile
    Many guys don't even bother to  read the profile/website so don't know what services  you do /dont do or even know where your located  despite it saying clearly on the profile or website.   

  Some girls may charge extra charges for  service like anal cim domination  The client who is texting might want that but just assume that its in with the price so not bother asking  so at least by speaking to the person I can personally clarify exactly what i do / don't do  and the client knows exactly what i do don't do So  there are never any mistunderstanding from either of us
 
Like lottie  I'm not sending 10 texts back and forth  explaining what i do /dont do along with prices ect  this take time having to text constantly when it can all be dealt with with a 1 min quick phone call   
 
  Also  as an escort i would  have no idea who is on the phone it could be a woman /another working girl wanting your address -  and yes of course there are numerous ways one can obtain someones address but I'm not going to give out my address to anyone who simply send me a text just because they cant be bothered to ring me.   

   I think its Smiths or some other poster on here who always says that he want to speak to the escort at least once before he books to judge her attitude on the phone   its the same  for me as well   i want to hear someone voice before i take a booking   -  I don't want to see someone who might be   rude to me when i speak to them and you cant tell that by a text

Sometimes texting can come across as being rude and blunt but its because its a text and quick to the point ( if you see what i mean ) so often client who text get ignored because they are sending stupid texts   i






Offline ParisB

in fact going through my phone and looking at some of the texts sent over the past 2 -3 days  This is the reason that personally i wont take bookings by text and always want to speak to someone first


sex  tonight   

text me address,  your  area, prices, services

wanna c u, address please 

Hello  Are you free at 12 would like an appointment today between 1 -2 pm  ( this one i replied to and took the booking from but yes he did have to call me )

Call me I'm in the Hilton     - which fucking hilton  in bristol alone there are 3 and fuck know how many there are in the uk 


Pic or anal inc

Only got 70 and want an hour what will that get me   clearly not read my profile or website

Hello u ok 

Do you do everything...   

Is that your best price 

My cock isn't that big - so don't want sex with you so  can i get it cheaper 

Do u do female

10PM  pencoed bridgend      No please, no would like and appointment  I guess I'm just supposed to drive all that way and hang around in Bridgend ( wherever the fuck that is at 10pm

Hi Paris cant speak at the moment but do you do dom if so how much would like 1hr after 5.30pm  ( this one i did text back prices and and told him to call for more details  - he did and booked  )

Offline Ali Katt

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I think its Smiths or some other poster on here who always says that he want to speak to the escort at least once before he books to judge her attitude on the phone   its the same  for me as well   i want to hear someone voice before i take a booking   -  I don't want to see someone who might be   rude to me when i speak to them and you cant tell that by a text
Both smiths and I do this. You can tell a lot from a phone call.

Offline smiths

Both smiths and I do this. You can tell a lot from a phone call.

Indeed, i wouldnt punt with a newbie WG to me without speaking to her first, i have zero interest in emails. ;)

Offline ParisB

Both smiths and I do this. You can tell a lot from a phone call.


 ah i thought it was Smiths  I remember him posting this -  just wasn't sure.    I just cant see how someone can take/make a booking without actually speaking to someone first  ( either way ) 
I mean the escort could look like a page 3 model and be absolutely stunning  but speak like Vicky Pollard or a even worse remind you of your mother or sister  or could  sound as thick as shit 

I agree that you can tell an awful lot from someone's voice  and for me if someone is rude or abrupt on the phone  then i don't want to see them as its more than likely that they will be 10 times worse in real life 




Offline marty

Personally  I would never give my address or take a booking without speaking to someone first  - unless its a regular client   but thats just me, I like to hear the voice of the person that I'm going to be fucking at some point,  might be a bit strange to to some but thats just me.  And I'm at a total loss as to why the fuck you would think an escort would want to record a punter voice and what she is going to do with it is beyond me.

Sometimes texting can come across as being rude and blunt but its because its a text and quick to the point ( if you see what i mean ) so often client who text get ignored because they are sending stupid texts   

It's not strange but it is also not necessary, like many girls claim it is. I didn't think an escort would want to record a punter. A few years back a punter's wife was suspicious from what was said she set up a profile on Adultwork and insisted that guys call to make a booking and she caught her husband when he called. This was talked about on another forum at the time and I know it's just as easy to arrange to meet by text and still get caught out but it's probably easier to avoid if you only text the first time.

I agree that you can tell more from speaking than texts and that but for some of us it's just not easy or convenient to call so in my opinion girls should use texts if the guy is polite and to the point. If the guy sends stupid texts it's his fault and his loss if she doesn't respond isn't it? And the daft time-wasting texts I can understand escorts get sick of them but it's part of the job, deal with them or choose another job. The last one in the list in your second reply, that you booked Paris, wouldn't you have booked if he wanted to complete the booking via text?

But then I agree for those that offer incall from home that is fair enough it's a lot more personal and whatever your rules should be accepted and followed but it's not "for your security" is it it's for peace of mind that the client is the right sort but someone could sound ok and still be a right nasty smelly type when he turns up so I don't see how you can be sure until you meet (and we all know both sides have the right to change their mind when 1st meet).  But these girls I'm on about are working from rented apartments or local hotels so in my opinion there is no reason to insist on a call.

But this is not so much about paranoia about getting caught it's mostly about convenience. Look at all the threads and talk about "girls texting punters" and even girls calling punters, I've always said I don't care because I text them from my punting phone but it's only a texting phone (text credits) and I am NOT calling from my personal phone unless I hold back the number so for me it's text or withheld number why won't girls answer a withheld number?

Basically it's "ring me or no booking" and I find that a bit unreasonable.

Offline marty


 ah i thought it was Smiths  I remember him posting this -  just wasn't sure.    I just cant see how someone can take/make a booking without actually speaking to someone first  ( either way ) 
I mean the escort could look like a page 3 model and be absolutely stunning  but speak like Vicky Pollard or a even worse remind you of your mother or sister  or could  sound as thick as shit 

I agree that you can tell an awful lot from someone's voice  and for me if someone is rude or abrupt on the phone  then i don't want to see them as its more than likely that they will be 10 times worse in real life

That's all well and good but it's not always right. Lots of girls sound sexy and conjure up an image of a stunner but when you meet it's a different thing.  Many of these girls who did the phone sex thing from Sunday Sport were nothing like guys imagined in real life.  Anyone can put on a phone voice so all I'm saying is girls AND punters should be flexible to arrive at a compromise. 

If you INSIST I call you ok I will, it'll be withheld.

Offline Louise 100% British

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I don't accept calls from withheld numbers- they are never genuine.
I respond to text messages if they are straight to the point & detailed enough. However I do work from home, so to have a small conversation with the man makes me feel more at ease.
However just because someone phones doesn't mean they are not timewasters.

Offline marty

I don't accept calls from withheld numbers- they are never genuine.

Bit of an own goal in your argument there, Louise.

I respond to text messages if they are straight to the point & detailed enough. However I do work from home, so to have a small conversation with the man makes me feel more at ease.
However just because someone phones doesn't mean they are not timewasters.

Fair comments, agreed.

I have called WGs, some will just answer and don't care it's withheld and guess what?  I was (and am) genuine. I have also texted and got to the point where they wanted met to call so I text back "ok, call you from work phone it's a private number, calling you now".  Press send, wait 20 seconds and call and they usually answer. Some just carry on the conversation and some say "it's withheld" like I'm supposed to feel like I stabbed her or something but most have been ok about it. I have also called some from the first contact and they answer and say something like "you call from private number", I say, "yes it's my work phone, I'd like to make a booking please" and I get "sorry not from private number ring back" and they hang up.

I am perplexed, confused and lost and still have no good reason from anyone about why they will not take a withheld call (especially if I text first to say I am calling so at least they have my punting number) ?!?!?!!

Offline smiths


 ah i thought it was Smiths  I remember him posting this -  just wasn't sure.    I just cant see how someone can take/make a booking without actually speaking to someone first  ( either way ) 
I mean the escort could look like a page 3 model and be absolutely stunning  but speak like Vicky Pollard or a even worse remind you of your mother or sister  or could  sound as thick as shit 

I agree that you can tell an awful lot from someone's voice  and for me if someone is rude or abrupt on the phone  then i don't want to see them as its more than likely that they will be 10 times worse in real life

Indeed, i also ring as getting verbal comfirmation very clearly communicated to the WG and by the WG back is the best i can do, no room for mis-communication, so i have done all i can to ensure i get what was agreed. If i dont it is always because a WG has lied.

Offline Louise 100% British

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Bit of an own goal in your argument there, Louise.

Fair comments, agreed.

I have called WGs, some will just answer and don't care it's withheld and guess what?  I was (and am) genuine. I have also texted and got to the point where they wanted met to call so I text back "ok, call you from work phone it's a private number, calling you now".  Press send, wait 20 seconds and call and they usually answer. Some just carry on the conversation and some say "it's withheld" like I'm supposed to feel like I stabbed her or something but most have been ok about it. I have also called some from the first contact and they answer and say something like "you call from private number", I say, "yes it's my work phone, I'd like to make a booking please" and I get "sorry not from private number ring back" and they hang up.

I am perplexed, confused and lost and still have no good reason from anyone about why they will not take a withheld call (especially if I text first to say I am calling so at least they have my punting number) ?!?!?!!

Sorry I put that wrong.
I don't accept bookings from withheld numbers, occasionally I may answer and say call me back so I can see your number. In some cases they havent realised it is blocked, and then phone back.
However texts such as "Hi r u free?" = pointless.

Offline ParisB

That's all well and good but it's not always right. Lots of girls sound sexy and conjure up an image of a stunner but when you meet it's a different thing.  Many of these girls who did the phone sex thing from Sunday Sport were nothing like guys imagined in real life.  Anyone can put on a phone voice so all I'm saying is girls AND punters should be flexible to arrive at a compromise. 

If you INSIST I call you ok I will, it'll be withheld.


I wouldn't answer withheld numbers  and yes guys have called and said they don't want to give me there number and i have replied thats fine but I'm not going to be able to take the booking from them
 I would rather lose a booking than  working in a way that I don't personally feel comfortable with and if someone is insisting on trying to book in a way that they want and withhold their number  then i don't want to see  them anyway
and of course you cant be 100 percent sure just by speaking to someone  but for me  its a damm site easier than just accepting a text from someone


I am pretty flexible  i have no problems with someone texting me but for example someone has sent me 5 texts wanting various info  in the end i said call if you want more info  I'm not doing ping pong text ( and i have unlimited texts) 







Offline ParisB

Bit of an own goal in your argument there, Louise.

Fair comments, agreed.

I have called WGs, some will just answer and don't care it's withheld and guess what?  I was (and am) genuine. I have also texted and got to the point where they wanted met to call so I text back "ok, call you from work phone it's a private number, calling you now".  Press send, wait 20 seconds and call and they usually answer. Some just carry on the conversation and some say "it's withheld" like I'm supposed to feel like I stabbed her or something but most have been ok about it. I have also called some from the first contact and they answer and say something like "you call from private number", I say, "yes it's my work phone, I'd like to make a booking please" and I get "sorry not from private number ring back" and they hang up.

I am perplexed, confused and lost and still have no good reason from anyone about why they will not take a withheld call (especially if I text first to say I am calling so at least they have my punting number) ?!?!?!!


Im confused now   so correct me if I'm wrong 

You send them a text so they they have your punting number  ( correct )
then you call them off a withheld phone - your work phone  to make a booking   ( correct )
when you get their which phone do you call them off  I'm assuming  its  your work phone which is whitheld or

If its the above then i sort of see your point, and i have taken booking from a client who did it like this, and it a bit of a pain but it worked out ok because but i still wanted to speak to them and i still required a confirmation text from him on the day of the appointment to book and he didn't get my flat number until he was outside my building 

Just curious why don't you just get a sim that included minutes and problems solved and use that phone to punt with

 

Offline Jimmyredcab

Indeed, i wouldnt punt with a newbie WG to me without speaking to her first, i have zero interest in emails. ;)

I agree totally -------------------------- however you can never be sure you are actually talking to the girl, it could be her flat mate or the maid.     :thumbsdown:

Offline ParisB

Bit of an own goal in your argument there, Louise.

Fair comments, agreed.

I have called WGs, some will just answer and don't care it's withheld and guess what?  I was (and am) genuine. I have also texted and got to the point where they wanted met to call so I text back "ok, call you from work phone it's a private number, calling you now".  Press send, wait 20 seconds and call and they usually answer. Some just carry on the conversation and some say "it's withheld" like I'm supposed to feel like I stabbed her or something but most have been ok about it. I have also called some from the first contact and they answer and say something like "you call from private number", I say, "yes it's my work phone, I'd like to make a booking please" and I get "sorry not from private number ring back" and they hang up.

I am perplexed, confused and lost and still have no good reason from anyone about why they will not take a withheld call (especially if I text first to say I am calling so at least they have my punting number) ?!?!?!!



What you might find works better is that if when you text you text something like this  ("Sorry for texting but you  would like an appointment but you need to call from your work phone which is withheld number  to speak to them and ask for details as you cant ring out on this phone etc is that ok Let me know and i will call you straight away thanks Marty from UKP  :lol: )    They might then hang up and say fuck off I'm not seeing anyone from UKP or they might just swoon and give you a freebie
 

 
 (you can even have a pre -done template to save you time and just insert the escort's name)

   Someone texting me  something like that would probably be fine by me as i have your punting phone so if its a booking that need a confirmation text you can do it from the punting phone.     

I find that if you work from the basis that everyone is stupid  :D then the easier you make it for them to see your point you  often find that you get everything you want     
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 10:32:20 AM by ParisB »

Offline Jimmyredcab

I mentioned this before and it's happened again, it really pisses me off!   :angry:

Texted a number on a profile, no reply. Rang from personal phone (number withheld) diverted to voice mail.  Emailed the girl via AW, asked what it takes to get an answer?  She won't reply to texts or withheld number "for her security".

Security my arse.
You can buy a throwaway SIM card for around £5.
A pro$$ie with an ounce of brains will answer enquiries from withheld numbers but insist that the punter shows his number to make a firm booking.

Offline marty


Im confused now   so correct me if I'm wrong 

You send them a text so they they have your punting number  ( correct )
then you call them off a withheld phone - your work phone  to make a booking   ( correct )
when you get their which phone do you call them off  I'm assuming  its  your work phone which is whitheld or

If its the above then i sort of see your point, and i have taken booking from a client who did it like this, and it a bit of a pain but it worked out ok because but i still wanted to speak to them and i still required a confirmation text from him on the day of the appointment to book and he didn't get my flat number until he was outside my building 

Just curious why don't you just get a sim that included minutes and problems solved and use that phone to punt with

You send them a text so they they have your punting number  ( correct )    Yes

then you call them off a withheld phone - your work phone  to make a booking   ( correct )   Yes
 
when you get their which phone do you call them off  I'm assuming  its  your work phone which is whitheld or

I call from the private work phone or text from the punting phone.

There is one other option which has happened, the girl calls me on my punting phone, but some won't even do that they insist the client must call them, probably because they have not much credit.  I don't buy minutes on my PAYG sim because they are expensive and soon run out where I can have unlimited texts for a month for £5. I already pay out £45 a month on my work phone contract I'm not paying for another just to talk to escorts, I'm paying out £50 a month all in and that's enough in my view.

Basically if a escort insists on the only way of contact being the client must phone them from a displayed number it's either a scam fake profile or she's got so many strict rules its probably best not to meet her anyway in my view.  What bothers me is I think some new girls see this rule on Adultwork and places and then apply it to their ways without knowing why just because its what others are saying.  If punters avoid all girls who insist on it then girls would need to think again which would be a good thing in my view.

  They might then hang up and say fuck off I'm not seeing anyone from UKP or they might just swoon and give you a freebie   

 :D

Offline marty

I agree totally -------------------------- however you can never be sure you are actually talking to the girl, it could be her flat mate or the maid.     :thumbsdown:

Exactly, it's all bollox in my view.  I like the look of a girl I text for an appointment and turn up it's that bloody simple. When I get there I spend 60 seconds checking what's on offer with the girl not some go between, will she kiss hang from the chandeliers etc and then we're good to go.   :D


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