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Author Topic: Problems after seeing WGs that offer bareback?  (Read 25110 times)

Wiltsboy01

Wiltsboy, how about you do the field work on this one. Go punting BB for a year or two and see what you pick up then you can report back.

Err..that will be a no.

I would see a BB girl but condom only for the penetration part of the proceedings.  Seems a reasonable compromise based on my perception of the risk.

Offline ParisB

But that's exactly the point of HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus). It weakens your immune system so that another STD might very well kill you  :hi:


Yeah but that what i mean they have HIV which is going to kill them anyway at some point ( although i guess we all die at some point  :P) but  getting a further STD is as you say going to weaken their immune system and could kill them but why would they care  - they already 6ft under they just haven't dug the grave yet

Offline ParisB

Sure that is a logical position - but there are 165 girls offering bareback on AW available today - how can that many 20s girls all have an sti?

I'm not anti-bareback or pro-bareback - I would look at the WG in the round and make a decision based on wanting to bang her.


But by looking at her you cant tell if she has a STD  or not 
Personally  ( and i do)   go from the default position  that if the escort or the client wants bareback then they have some form of STD possibly HIV as they are not bothered about shagging without a condom as they have very little to lose 

Offline Daffodil


Yeah but that what i mean they have HIV which is going to kill them anyway at some point ( although i guess we all die at some point  :P) but  getting a further STD is as you say going to weaken their immune system and could kill them but why would they care  - they already 6ft under they just haven't dug the grave yet

Not correct. People with HIV (treated) actually have an almost normal life expectancy. Diabetes probably shortens your life to a far greater degree and will give you a poorer quality of life (stroke, amputations, kidney failure, etc.).

Other STDs don't weaken your immune system further, they will be more aggressive because your immune system has been weakened.

HIV is not the death sentence it once was, but it requires lifelong medication and care taken to reduce your risk of opportunistic infections.


Yeah but that what i mean they have HIV which is going to kill them anyway at some point ( although i guess we all die at some point  :P) but  getting a further STD is as you say going to weaken their immune system and could kill them but why would they care  - they already 6ft under they just haven't dug the grave yet

From what I have been reading on the latest meds they have for HIV, the new pill combinations mean that it is no longer a death sentence and you can actually live as long as you would before having caught the virus, they also seem to believe that on these meds the chances of passing it on are greatly lowered. That doesn't make it any less serious and I still wouldn't take the risk personally but things have drastically changed over the last 10 years with treatments.

lol you beat me by 32 seconds daff!

Offline smiths

Yes i agree, HIV is no longer a certain death sentence as it once was. However getting ill could be fatal, its like with babies and the frail elderly as my late father was sadly. A cold can turn into something very serious very quickly.

Wiltsboy01


But by looking at her you cant tell if she has a STD  or not 
Personally  ( and i do)   go from the default position  that if the escort or the client wants bareback then they have some form of STD possibly HIV as they are not bothered about shagging without a condom as they have very little to lose

It is possible in some cases that a girl with say HIV is in a shit-or-bust mission to either infect guys or make a shedload of money but all of the bareback girls? Surely not? Anyway the numbers don't add up.  A reliable paper (academic not as in Daily Mail) put the rate of HIV infection in a recent Romanian epidemic of HIV centered on Bucharest at 1 in 100 IV drug users.  The subset of HIV+ Romanian 20-something girls-next-door who come to the UK for the money on a 2-month working holiday (if you like) has got to be statistical noise on that basis.


Offline ParisB

Not correct. People with HIV (treated) actually have an almost normal life expectancy. Diabetes probably shortens your life to a far greater degree and will give you a poorer quality of life (stroke, amputations, kidney failure, etc.).

Other STDs don't weaken your immune system further, they will be more aggressive because your immune system has been weakened.

HIV is not the death sentence it once was, but it requires lifelong medication and care taken to reduce your risk of opportunistic infections.


OK  i understand that  what you have said, and its interesting and i will have a read up on it as well  I do remember reading that they had new drugs that were working more efficiently for HIV
   but for those that are already have HIV  and are offering bareback its upping their chance of dying earlier because like you said anything that they catch ( std) is going to be more aggressive for them than for someone who does not have HIV. 

Better luck next time  :hi:

Being to quick never was one of my problems  :lol:

Offline Daffodil

Being to quick never was one of my problems  :lol:

That's not what your wife told me the other night  :cool:

Offline markw

I accept all this but going back to my original post - has anyone ever encountered a WG with an sti at all? It's all speculation.


To answer your actual question, yes, I have encountered a wg who admitted to having an sti.

It was a few years ago, and she posted on auto-censored's board, saying she had caught gonorrhea in her throat (from giving owo), and would therefore no longer be doing owo.

So she was a wg who didn't do bb penetration, but still got an sti. And we know the risk is even greater from bb penetration.

She was brave to admit it on a public forum - I suggest that most people wouldn't admit it, and would prefer to keep it quiet.
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That's not what your wife told me the other night  :cool:

I knew it, the dirty bitch really will shag anything!!! :lol:

Offline markw

And another thing!!!! If you bother to find out the statistics, you'll know that the rate of chlamydia infection has increased greatly in the last few years

And you'll also know that gonnorhea is becoming increasingly resistant to antibiotics, so if you get it, it may not be curable.
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Offline smiths

Anyway to get back on my soapbox, to any newbie punters reading this please consider the risks of BB. Like many punters you might not like using condoms but is your health or even possibly your life worth risking for it. Please think carefully and at least get as much information as you can about it. I find the staff at the GUM can be helpful.

Offline Dax

When I first started seen Escorts I was not aware of the dangers of STD.  I actually had done BB 3 times, the first 2 times no problem.  But it was the 3rd time that it alarm bells rang and I got a wake up call. 

I had seen a Hungarian Escort in a Hotel and she offered BB and I took it.  A few days later I started getting symptons such as Painful urine and yellowish stuff coming out my Penis.  I started to panic and went to a STD clinic.  They did the penis swipe(painful as hell) and took a blood and urine sample and then the doctor told me on the day that I had Gonorrhea and told me it will go away after he gave a injection and a few tablets. 

The Blood test came back Negative for everything else, which showed that the previous BB experiences did not leave anything like HIV. 

But for me the Gonorrhea was a wakeup call.  Gonorrhea it self is very bad thing to experience and would not like to again and I swore off ever doing BB again.   I believe some people need to catch STD to see how easily it is to get it.
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Offline baltar

When I first started seen Escorts I was not aware of the dangers of STD.

Was this back in the 60s?


Offline Dax

Was this back in the 60s?

No it was a few years ago late 2011.  Most people are not aware of many STD out there like I was.  I always thought that if a girl had a STD you can see the signs. 

Before catching Gonorrhea, I had never heard of it before.  Nor did I know that HIV takes 6 weeks to find out if you have it and barely shows any symptons.

Offline smiths

When I first started seen Escorts I was not aware of the dangers of STD.  I actually had done BB 3 times, the first 2 times no problem.  But it was the 3rd time that it alarm bells rang and I got a wake up call. 

I had seen a Hungarian Escort in a Hotel and she offered BB and I took it.  A few days later I started getting symptons such as Painful urine and yellowish stuff coming out my Penis.  I started to panic and went to a STD clinic.  They did the penis swipe(painful as hell) and took a blood and urine sample and then the doctor told me on the day that I had Gonorrhea and told me it will go away after he gave a injection and a few tablets. 

The Blood test came back Negative for everything else, which showed that the previous BB experiences did not leave anything like HIV. 

But for me the Gonorrhea was a wakeup call.  Gonorrhea it self is very bad thing to experience and would not like to again and I swore off ever doing BB again.   I believe some people need to catch STD to see how easily it is to get it.

Your ignorance is quite amazing in this day and age, but as i suspected there are people like you punting. Did it not cross your mind that fucking a WG who has punted with god knows how many punters and who offers BB to them would be a risky thing to do?

At least you have not caught anything permanent, and thanks for sharing your experiences.

Offline Dax

Your ignorance is quite amazing in this day and age, but as i suspected there are people like you punting. Did it not cross your mind that fucking a WG who has punted with god knows how many punters and who offers BB to them would be a risky thing to do?

At least you have not caught anything permanent, and thanks for sharing your experiences.

Yes I am sure their are many men out there that are in the in position I was regarding the there lack of knowledge on STDs. 

I myself kept telling my self that I would not catch anything as the girls did not look sick.  I am sure that most people the in UK have not heard of the many STDs that are out there.  All have heard of HIV and AIDS but how many know of the rest? 

I am not sure how the Education system is now in schools regarding STDs but the 90s I do not remember learning anything about any in school.   And many people do not really go around talking about STDs for it to be common knowledge.   

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Offline smiths

Yes I am sure their are many men out there that are in the in position I was regarding the there lack of knowledge on STDs. 

I myself kept telling my self that I would not catch anything as the girls did not look sick.  I am sure that most people the in UK have not heard of the many STDs that are out there.  All have heard of HIV and AIDS but how many know of the rest? 

I am not sure how the Education system is now in schools regarding STDs but the 90s I do not remember learning anything about any in school.   And many people do not really go around talking about STDs for it to be common knowledge.

To me its common sense, if your shagging WGs its  logic to check out what can be caught, as it can be of course with anyone. Plenty of information online and/or at GPs or GUMs. My 18 year old son had lessons on STIs/HIV at school, i didnt in the 70s.

I hope most people are aware of what can be caught, but who knows.

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Yes I am sure their are many men out there that are in the in position I was regarding the there lack of knowledge on STDs. 

I myself kept telling my self that I would not catch anything as the girls did not look sick.  I am sure that most people the in UK have not heard of the many STDs that are out there.  All have heard of HIV and AIDS but how many know of the rest? 

I am not sure how the Education system is now in schools regarding STDs but the 90s I do not remember learning anything about any in school.   And many people do not really go around talking about STDs for it to be common knowledge.

In the 80s we didn't get much STI advice (apart from HIV/AIDS and condom use) so I know where you're coming from. Our "sex education" didn't tell us about the pox or the clap, these diseases were from olden days, like the Tudor times, or the 1960s, man! I had to educate myself, through my friends' experiences. Even my own parents had no idea about GUM / STD / STI clinics - even though they became rather promiscuous during the 90s, they maintained that if anything was wrong it would have been "picked up after donating blood and we would have been told". IGNORANCE, eh!



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