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Author Topic: Problems after seeing WGs that offer bareback?  (Read 25134 times)

Wiltsboy01

Someone said there's a much higher chance of a girl having something if she does bareback or even that she's probably already got something and doesn't give a fuck about herself, or anyone that goes with her.

Is that really true? I mean has anyone ever encountered or even heard of a WG with an sti, let alone anything mega-serious?

I agree its a question of risk but I tend to think the risk is overstated.  Just a thought.


the risk is by no means overstated, you have no idea what any of the guys she has seen have and neither does she. Worst case scenario you wind up being HIV+ and if you have a family then try explaining that to your other half. A lot of STIs remain symptom free for a very long time so unless you are tested regularly then how would you know if you have one? Is that risk really worth it?

Offline ParisB

Someone said there's a much higher chance of a girl having something if she does bareback or even that she's probably already got something and doesn't give a fuck about herself, or anyone that goes with her.

Is that really true? I mean has anyone ever encountered or even heard of a WG with an sti, let alone anything mega-serious?

I agree its a question of risk but I tend to think the risk is overstated.  Just a thought.


To be honest i think that is how i have always looked at it.   In this day and age we all know the risk of std inc HIV+ect  So why would someone want to offer this unless they already have something  ( and yes i suppose that is a very simplistic way of looking at it ) 
I know that to some this might not make sense to some people   but thats just my way of thinking of it
i.e.  if someone has something like HIV  then catching another STD isn't exactly going to kill them is it so why should they care 

also i think the same way about clients that request it as well -  Im always amazed that when you look at the reverse bookings system on adultwork you get loads of guys wanting bb and lots of escorts bidding for it.

Its such a shame that with reverse bidding  it doesn't show which escorts are bidding for bareback then at least other punters would know

Offline pierrot

Ive been punting for over 25 years and Im still waiting to be offered the chance to refuse BB. Ive often thought it was a myth.

Offline IluvPussy

Any decent punter will treat any WG as a dirty bare-backer, and get regular GUM clinic check-ups.
Any decent WG will treat any punter as a dirty bare-backer, and get regular GUM clinic check-ups.
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Offline kong

i find it absolutely inconceivable that girls would offer BB regardless of the situation

Offline smiths

Someone said there's a much higher chance of a girl having something if she does bareback or even that she's probably already got something and doesn't give a fuck about herself, or anyone that goes with her.

Is that really true? I mean has anyone ever encountered or even heard of a WG with an sti, let alone anything mega-serious?

I agree its a question of risk but I tend to think the risk is overstated.  Just a thought.

An infected WG is hardly likely to broadcast the fact as that wouldnt be good for business in general would it, although it might attract some of those creatures that apparently want to get infected. Its quite obvious and common sense that the risk of getting infected by offering BB to any Tom, Dick or Abdul is higher than not offering it, just ask a trained medical professional especially experts at a GUM. Fuck knows the exact risk but its not one i wish to take.

The argument that a punter could simply wear a condom when punting with WGs he knows offers BB to punters doesnt take account of those like me that dont wish to meet such idiots, and wouldnt enjoy punting with them being too worried about them being infected. Whether that worry is justified or not isnt the point to me, i punt for fun so choose to avoid those i know offer BB. If a WG offers it but doesnt advertise it which i have experienced myself although thankfully not for a long time then there isnt anything i can do about that obviously, apart from stopping punting.

IMO any WG that offers a punter BB either doesnt care about her health or that of others, or is as thick as two short planks or a mentalist, maybe even already infected and wishing to infect men back, who knows.

And of course some infections can damage your fertility and ruin your life, all for a BB shag. I wouldnt shag a civvie BB either personally that was a total or virtual stranger.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 10:40:14 PM by smiths »

Offline Cactus

i.e.  if someone has something like HIV  then catching another STD isn't exactly going to kill them is it so why should they care 

There is the small matter of possible criminal charges (convictions have been given of 2 years in jail) for knowingly spreading HIV.  So while, in your opinion, they may have nothing to lose in going bb when carrying HIV, there are other possible repercussions.

Punting is a risk/reward business, every punter/WG is different in what they deem to be an acceptable level of risk.  Personally, I add girls to my blacklist who offer bareback as that's a risk too far for me and I don't want to associate with prossies who deem this as a reasonable risk to take.  Others may think differently.

I get checked fairly regularly at the GUM clinic, even though I try to minimise my risk, it's still a nerve racking moment getting the results.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 10:43:53 PM by Cactus »

Wiltsboy01

If someone has something like HIV  then catching another STD isn't exactly going to kill them is it so why should they care

Sure that is a logical position - but there are 165 girls offering bareback on AW available today - how can that many 20s girls all have an sti?

I'm not anti-bareback or pro-bareback - I would look at the WG in the round and make a decision based on wanting to bang her.

Offline IluvPussy

There is the small matter of possible criminal charges (convictions have been given of 2 years in jail) for knowingly spreading HIV.  So while, in your opinion, they may have nothing to lose in going bb when carrying HIV, there are other possible repercussions.
Honestly how many convictions you think? A "dirty punter with a filthy prossie", "had it coming". It's not a real crime, unlike insurance fraud!

Punting is a risk/reward business, every punter/WG is different in what they deem to be an acceptable level of risk.  Personally, I add girls to my blacklist who offer bareback as that's a risk too far for me.
I agree, WG's who openly offer BB are a major no-no. But just because they don't BB punters, doesn't mean they BB multiple boyfriends.

Read a report a while back that swingers were high risk STD/STI's or whatever the fuck it's called this week.
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Offline Whore Of Babylon

Any decent punter will treat any WG as a dirty bare-backer, and get regular GUM clinic check-ups.
Any decent WG will treat any punter as a dirty bare-backer, and get regular GUM clinic check-ups.

Hurrah! Someone is actually talking sense.
From an operational point of view, I consider all of my clients or casual sex partners to be HIV positive and take the acceptable (for me) precautions.
Condoms are extremely effective when used correctly to guard against HIV.

Both parties can still have satisfying sex and treat each other pleasantly and respectfully. If you don't get on with condoms you can experiment with different brands. I read recently that measuring your penis and getting the correctly sized condom can make a dramatic difference for sensation.


Offline Hetfield

Pretty sure you were referencing me in your opening quote. Let me explain why I said that.

The risk of getting something for a barebacking WG is higher - by this I mean this; if a girl sleeps a guy without protection, there is a risk of getting something transmitted. Now, if a girl sleeps with 20 guys a week without protection, that risk is 20 times higher than a girl that sleeps with only 1 guy a week. You have to speculate to accumulate.

As for the second part, about offering bareback if you already have aids or whatever. The only way I can understand the mindset of a hooker that offers bareback to everyone she meets, and not be worried about aids/hiv/sti's is that she must already have one/all. No rational person would have unprotected sex with total strangers, multiple times a day/multiple days a week, and not worry about their own health, unless they knew their own health was fucked already. That's the only logical explanation I can think of. If you did worry about your health, you wouldn't offer BB to every punter you meet! And since there's no logical explanation, in my mind, as to why you wouldn't care about your won health, the only explanation must be your health is already gone and void.

So would I go and see a WG that offers BB and have sex with her? No thanks, not even with protection.

Offline rpg

Pretty sure you were referencing me in your opening quote. Let me explain why I said that.

The risk of getting something for a barebacking WG is higher - by this I mean this; if a girl sleeps a guy without protection, there is a risk of getting something transmitted. Now, if a girl sleeps with 20 guys a week without protection, that risk is 20 times higher than a girl that sleeps with only 1 guy a week. You have to speculate to accumulate.

As for the second part, about offering bareback if you already have aids or whatever. The only way I can understand the mindset of a hooker that offers bareback to everyone she meets, and not be worried about aids/hiv/sti's is that she must already have one/all. No rational person would have unprotected sex with total strangers, multiple times a day/multiple days a week, and not worry about their own health, unless they knew their own health was fucked already. That's the only logical explanation I can think of. If you did worry about your health, you wouldn't offer BB to every punter you meet! And since there's no logical explanation, in my mind, as to why you wouldn't care about your won health, the only explanation must be your health is already gone and void.

So would I go and see a WG that offers BB and have sex with her? No thanks, not even with protection.

It's theoretically hugely more than 20 times the risk as each of those 20 guys could have been barebacking numerous girls, who, in turn could be doing likewise.

Offline ParisB

There is the small matter of possible criminal charges (convictions have been given of 2 years in jail) for knowingly spreading HIV.  So while, in your opinion, they may have nothing to lose in going bb when carrying HIV, there are other possible repercussions.

Punting is a risk/reward business, every punter/WG is different in what they deem to be an acceptable level of risk.  Personally, I add girls to my blacklist who offer bareback as that's a risk too far for me and I don't want to associate with prossies who deem this as a reasonable risk to take.  Others may think differently.

I get checked fairly regularly at the GUM clinic, even though I try to minimise my risk, it's still a nerve racking moment getting the results.

I don't  really think that someone who has HIV is going to be massively bothered that they might be taken to court
 plus we're talking out clients shagging someone bb so obviously he knows the risk he is taking by shagging a prostitue that offer bare back   Cat really moan wen in six months e has tested positive for HIV or anything else

Offline Whore Of Babylon

Personally I wouldn't see an escort who offered bb because she is either: 
1. off her rocker- not fun for me
2. Got HIV and wants to spread it - a complete disaster of a person and not someone I want to fuck.
3. Or just too fucking stupid to deal with (in my opinion)

But each to their own. You take your chances in this life and only you know which ones are worth the risk for you.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 11:14:19 PM by Whore Of Babylon »

Offline ParisB

Pretty sure you were referencing me in your opening quote. Let me explain why I said that.

The risk of getting something for a barebacking WG is higher - by this I mean this; if a girl sleeps a guy without protection, there is a risk of getting something transmitted. Now, if a girl sleeps with 20 guys a week without protection, that risk is 20 times higher than a girl that sleeps with only 1 guy a week. You have to speculate to accumulate.

As for the second part, about offering bareback if you already have aids or whatever. The only way I can understand the mindset of a hooker that offers bareback to everyone she meets, and not be worried about aids/hiv/sti's is that she must already have one/all. No rational person would have unprotected sex with total strangers, multiple times a day/multiple days a week, and not worry about their own health, unless they knew their own health was fucked already. That's the only logical explanation I can think of. If you did worry about your health, you wouldn't offer BB to every punter you meet! And since there's no logical explanation, in my mind, as to why you wouldn't care about your won health, the only explanation must be your health is already gone and void.

So would I go and see a WG that offers BB and have sex with her? No thanks, not even with protection.


You wrote what I was trying to only much better ( thanks) 

Offline smiths

Pretty sure you were referencing me in your opening quote. Let me explain why I said that.

The risk of getting something for a barebacking WG is higher - by this I mean this; if a girl sleeps a guy without protection, there is a risk of getting something transmitted. Now, if a girl sleeps with 20 guys a week without protection, that risk is 20 times higher than a girl that sleeps with only 1 guy a week. You have to speculate to accumulate.

As for the second part, about offering bareback if you already have aids or whatever. The only way I can understand the mindset of a hooker that offers bareback to everyone she meets, and not be worried about aids/hiv/sti's is that she must already have one/all. No rational person would have unprotected sex with total strangers, multiple times a day/multiple days a week, and not worry about their own health, unless they knew their own health was fucked already. That's the only logical explanation I can think of. If you did worry about your health, you wouldn't offer BB to every punter you meet! And since there's no logical explanation, in my mind, as to why you wouldn't care about your won health, the only explanation must be your health is already gone and void.

So would I go and see a WG that offers BB and have sex with her? No thanks, not even with protection.

Well put. ;)

Offline smiths

It's theoretically hugely more than 20 times the risk as each of those 20 guys could have been barebacking numerous girls, who, in turn could be doing likewise.

Yep, also well said. ;)

Offline Kram

I wouldn't fuck a civvy girl BB... there's no way in hell I'd fuck a prossie bb

Offline smiths

Personally I wouldn't see an escort who offered bb because she is either: 
1. off her rocker- not fun for me
2. Got HIV and wants to spread it - a complete disaster of a person and not someone I want to fuck.
3. Or just too fucking stupid to deal with (in my opinion)

But each to their own. You take your chances in this life and only you know which ones are worth the risk for you.

Yes, the same reasons i gave. Of course its to each their own if its consentual, complete fucking idiots though nevertheless in my view.

Wiltsboy01

Yep, also well said. ;)

I accept all this but going back to my original post - has anyone ever encountered a WG with an sti at all? It's all speculation.

This all might just be like that "Don't die of ignorance" AIDS campaign in the 1980s - but few people did die - ignorant or otherwise.

Offline smiths


You wrote what I was trying to only much better ( thanks)

I understood and agreed with the jist of your post Paris. ;)

Offline pabulum

The only thing that I'd add to Hetfield, smiths, rpg and other naysayers is that I tend to see adverts for a group of girls appearing on AW in the same city, all with similar profiles etc (and currently all Romanian), and I look at the 'likes' only to see that they all offer 'bareback', 'penetration (protected) and 'unprotected sex'. At this point I begin to wonder whether offering BB is actually the girls' free choice.

Offline IluvPussy

I wouldn't fuck a civvy girl BB... there's no way in hell I'd fuck a prossie bb
Not sure of your age, etc, but most blokes happily BB a civvy on a Friday/Saturday night on the town.
I was *that* age once too!
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Offline ParisB

My friends stepfather has just come back from Thailand (just his ashes in a urn  ) He was early 60's had 4 kids plus 3 step kids and numerous grandkids

He died out there in Thailand recently of aids and he didnt have the money to be flown back home to die with his family

He spent many years visiting Thailand from around the  early 2001  far as I know when he separated from my friends mum

He  was quite open with his family  that had HIV once e knew  :rolleyes:and from what I know from chatting to him and my friend at family parties he initially used a condom on his first few trips, then he didn't a few times. Got checked out and was all clear so started playing russian roulette with his life .

He was ok I believe for around 8 years of doing this never got as much as a cold   He would spend to the winters out there and the  summers in the uk working to pay for his 6 month trip

Sadly he lost his game  of russian roulette and was diagnosed with HIV a few years ago

But having HIV didnt stop him going out to Thailand for the past few years  still shagging girls and of course he has fuck all to lose, so no condom so passing HIV around to others who sag the sae girls in all probability
Do I feel sorry for him   yes cos I remember him as my friends step dad and e was always a nice guy but I don't feel sorry for him cos he gambled and he lost
« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 11:35:55 PM by ParisB »


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