RhonaSG & SAAFE

[Jimmyredcab]

150ph is top rate for an AW prossie.

Especially in a run down city like Derby.   

[rhonasg]

I'm finding the work load good now that i've spread my advertising, wouldn't call it run down, but i've never worked another city so i can't comment

[James999]

I'm finding the work load good now 

That's great to hear, glad we could help, thanks for poppin in, you never did say who recommended you here ?

[random]

& last i do have to comment on : I'm not a chav at all no (said every chav ever), although i do love my tramp stamp . If i'm going to be cliqued i'd gladly be cliqued in the "alternative" and by that i mean rock & roll, studs and jack daniells XD. It would be a happy day if i saw a chavs walking around like that tbf.

Then the raven dark hair look would suit you better? I personally like that sort of look.

As for showing a bit of personality and detail about yourself that can be a good thing for some  prospective customers as long as it's actually written well and doesn't go overboard.

[sucky2dollar]

As harsh as this post is, it's useful.

No one's giving you a hard time just for kicks. As a punter i'm telling you from a customer perspective why I would not even consider your profile.
Many WG's that come here have their profile put through the furnace and it comes out better.

At least you're listening and making changes.

[Marmalade]

Especially in a run down city like Derby.   

Much as I agree, a quick search shows more than 60 in Derby charging an extortionate 150ph or more. But lots of people charge extortionate fees for their services and get away with it. And why not if there are people that stupid. There's even a reasonably nice hotel by the station with easy access past reception. Its location makes it attractively easy to get the fuck out of Derby of course.

[manc36]

London accent ? You should rewrite your profile in cockney slang.

[IluvPussy]

I'm finding the work load good now that i've spread my advertising, wouldn't call it run down, but i've never worked another city so i can't comment

Hi Rhona, as the OP I thought I'd say Hi.

I still stick to my guns on your fees, £150 is top end for London, or possibly other major cities (Brum, Manc etc) and NOT for Derby. I just think it's one of the reasons you moaned on SAAFE.

If you're new advertising campaign worked and you can stick to your rate, fair enough. But myself and a probably a few other punters on this forum would look at your fee and discard you for that sole reason.

PS Glad you're updating your pics, for £150 they should be better lit, composed and more of them in free gallery.

[Jimmyredcab]

My photos are to be replaced tonight yes.

This is what profile pictures should look like, the punter can see exactly what he is about to pay for, note that her rates are a very sensible £100 an hour in a suburb of London.

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[Jimmyredcab]

I still stick to my guns on your fees, £150 is top end for London, or possibly other major cities (Brum, Manc etc) and NOT for Derby. I just think it's one of the reasons you moaned on SAAFE.

Of course the women on Saafe will not advise her to reduce her rates, they never do.

[Uglybugball]

This is what profile pictures should look like, the punter can see exactly what he is about to pay for, note that her rates are a very sensible £100 an hour in a suburb of London.

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+1

[ParisB]

That's great to hear, glad we could help, thanks for poppin in, you never did say who recommended you here ?

It was me -   I had already posted on her original post  -   I sent Rhona a private message via saafe that there was a post on here about her  and that she might find it beneficial to join up and  give a response and possibly get some more advice  from not just escorts but from the paying clients as well.   
Was i wrong to do this   ????  I don't think i was  - I think that  Rhona has actually responded pretty well to all of the post's  compared to some escorts who find post about themselves and go a bit loopy 
I think that getting critical responses from both escorts and clients is a good thing to do
 

[random]

This is what profile pictures should look like, the punter can see exactly what he is about to pay for, note that her rates are a very sensible £100 an hour in a suburb of London.

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Can't see her body properly though, and her figure/size aren't described anywhere there. Her service is really limited too. 

[lancashireman12345]

Hi Rhona,

I notice you said you lowered your prices for 2 weeks and nothing happened? I think that might be is because most people get paid on a monthly basis and the 2 weeks could have been slap-bang in the middle of the month when money is tight, and therefore with your offer missed payday as it was so short.

Also I agree - £150 an hour is for big cities like London, and I wouldn't expect someone in Derby that high priced unless you have a good reputation from before.

[Uglybugball]

I think she has responded well too.

Plenty of advice on here even if you don't want to hear it. 

As long as it's constructive, then there's no problem.

[Jimmyredcab]

Can't see her body properly though, and her figure/size aren't described anywhere there. Her service is really limited too.

Her body is OK, trust me on that.     

[ParisB]

Hi Rhona,

I notice you said you lowered your prices for 2 weeks and nothing happened? I think that might be is because most people get paid on a monthly basis and the 2 weeks could have been slap-bang in the middle of the month when money is tight, and therefore with your offer missed payday as it was so short.

Also I agree - £150 an hour is for big cities like London, and I wouldn't expect someone in Derby that high priced unless you have a good reputation from before.

Yes i agree with this  i do well on my 100 an hour deal at set times because i have been doing this offer for a long time  It takes time for special offers and things to filter down and get recognised by clients
If your going to do a special offer then do it for at least 3 months to really see if its worth it or not

[Jimmyredcab]

Hi Rhona,

I notice you said you lowered your prices for 2 weeks and nothing happened? I think that might be is because most people get paid on a monthly basis and the 2 weeks could have been slap-bang in the middle of the month when money is tight, and therefore with your offer missed payday as it was so short.

You could have a valid point, I always notice that the third week of the month is terrible for business, most people get paid monthly.

[Jimmyredcab]

It was me -   I had already posted on her original post  -   I sent Rhona a private message via saafe that there was a post on here about her  and that she might find it beneficial to join up and  give a response and possibly get some more advice  from not just escorts but from the paying clients as well.   
Was i wrong to do this   ????  I don't think i was  - I think that  Rhona has actually responded pretty well to all of the post's  compared to some escorts who find post about themselves and go a bit loopy 

Thanks for owning up.
Yes, she has responded pretty well, going loopy solves nothing. Some girls don't seem to appreciate that their Adultwork profile is their shop window, mess that up and the phone remains dusty.

[manc36]

Yes. Some people don't seem to realise how tight cash is for alot of people in Britain. £150 in Derby, most will skip right past, may get a few 1 offs.

I'm not young enough to know everything but if she charged £100 and kept those rates for a month, along with the improvement to her profile, then she would, without doubt be earning more money - much more chance of getting regular clients too.

[Marmalade]

I wonder how many prostitutes have actually ever spent £150 on anything (luxury item or service) using money that they had acquired in a normal job. Probably not that many.

[Jimmyredcab]

Yes. Some people don't seem to realise how tight cash is for alot of people in Britain. £150 in Derby, most will skip right past, may get a few 1 offs.

I'm not young enough to know everything but if she charged £100 and kept those rates for a month, along with the improvement to her profile, then she would, without doubt be earning more money - much more chance of getting regular clients too.

Good post.
Prostitutes tend to lose touch with the real world, £150 is a lot of money to many guys ---------- even in London let alone Derby.

[Jimmyredcab]

I wonder how many prostitutes have actually ever spent £150 on anything (luxury item or service) using money that they had acquired in a normal job. Probably not that many.

My guess ---------------------- none.   

[IluvPussy]

Her body is OK, trust me on that.     

OK, I'll bite (despite being £150 and too north of Watford for a Londoner of JRC 'status').

How do you know?

[Jimmyredcab]

OK, I'll bite (despite being £150 and too north of Watford for a Londoner of JRC 'status').

How do you know?

You seem a little confused.
I am talking about this girl. £100 an hour and based in Dagenham.

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[Tony Montana]

This is what profile pictures should look like, the punter can see exactly what he is about to pay for, note that her rates are a very sensible £100 an hour in a suburb of London.

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Crap profile, there's no interview. If you don't know her starsign how do you know if you're going to click?

If you don't know her favourite flower or perfume, how do you know what gift to take?

[Jimmyredcab]

Crap profile, there's no interview. If you don't know her starsign how do you know if you're going to click?

If you don't know her favourite flower or perfume, how do you know what gift to take?

No problem for me, I don't do gifts, well maybe a £5 bottle of wine on a repeat visit.   

[tightfoot69]

Crap profile, there's no interview. If you don't know her starsign how do you know if you're going to click?

If you don't know her favourite flower or perfume, how do you know what gift to take?

The most interesting thing the interviews tell you is that all escorts hate their feet.

[Ali Katt]

The most interesting thing the interviews tell you is that all escorts hate their feet.

or their schnoz.

[IluvPussy]

If you don't know her favourite flower or perfume, how do you know what gift to take?

Polite, clean, on-time, know what you want (on her likes!).

[IluvPussy]

The most interesting thing the interviews tell you is that all escorts hate their feet.

Stick them in high-heels, thigh-high boots, 'teenage' college socks, or stockings then!

[sucky2dollar]

Hi Rhona,

I notice you said you lowered your prices for 2 weeks and nothing happened? I think that might be is because most people get paid on a monthly basis and the 2 weeks could have been slap-bang in the middle of the month when money is tight, and therefore with your offer missed payday as it was so short.

Very likely true but nevertheless if her profile was not up to par during this time then even at the reduced rate she may have only slightly increased her chances of a client.

Was i wrong to do this   ???? 

No. If other new WG's read this thread, take the advice and start making better profiles with realistic rates then it's a win for punters.

Her pricing is still a massive issue however. Even in London when I see a £150 rate my expectations are extremely high. When I say extremely high i'm talking about someone whoose reputation proceeds them, the type of WG all the punters are gushing positive things about and more importantly one that can actually deliver the service head and shoulders above the rest.

The bottom line is you can't demand a high rate just because you had a L'Oréal "because i'm worth it" moment. As a newbie, in Derby, with no client base or reputation it's the wrong way to start out and unless she addresses it she'll find herself on the prossie scapheap faster than you can say 'Slow at the minute or just me?'

Being business savvy means you know when lower your rates just as much as you know when to raise them.

[Ali Katt]

The bottom line is you can't demand a high rate just because you had a L'Oréal "because i'm worth it" moment. As a newbie, in Derby, with no client base or reputation it's the wrong way to start out and unless she addresses it she'll find herself on the prossie scapheap faster than you can say 'Slow at the minute or just me?'

Being business savvy means you know when lower your rates just as much as you know when to raise them.

Spot on sucky2dollar. I used to pay £120 an hour 5 years ago, as I thought it was the going rate. Now I rarely pay £100, I rarely do hour bookings full stop. The thing a lot of prossies forget is it is a buyer's market. Some seem to think as long as they are pretty, men will come running to them and it doesn't work that way, not as a long term business plan, anyway.

[Jimmyredcab]

Her pricing is still a massive issue however. Even in London when I see a £150 rate my expectations are extremely high. When I say extremely high i'm talking about someone whoose reputation proceeds them, the type of WG all the punters are gushing positive things about and more importantly one that can actually deliver the service head and shoulders above the rest.


Being business savvy means you know when lower your rates just as much as you know when to raise them.

What shrewd girls seem to do is start off charging reasonable fees and once they have built up a good reputation they increase their rates, a newbie starting at premium rates is a recipe for disaster ------------- more so in Derby.   

[Jimmyredcab]

Some seem to think as long as they are pretty, men will come running to them and it doesn't work that way, not as a long term business plan, anyway.

Being pretty is a big plus --------------------- but you have to be willing to show your face, many girls refuse to do that. 

[ParisB]

Thanks for owning up.
Yes, she has responded pretty well, going loopy solves nothing. Some girls don't seem to appreciate that their Adultwork profile is their shop window, mess that up and the phone remains dusty.

No probs  I don't  have anything to hide.   

I thought that as she had posted on saafe she wanted some advice , and when i saw the post here i thought the very least I could do is tell her that there was a thread about her and give her the opportunity to respond 
which she did and I think she as done very well

[Jimmyredcab]

No probs  I don't  have anything to hide.   

I thought that as she had posted on saafe she wanted some advice , and when i saw the post here i thought the very least I could do is tell her that there was a thread about her and give her the opportunity to respond 
which she did and I think she as done very well

I doubt very much that she will take our advice to lower her fees until she has built up a decent client base, you can't help some people.   

[Tailpipe]

No probs  I don't  have anything to hide.   

I thought that as she had posted on saafe she wanted some advice , and when i saw the post here i thought the very least I could do is tell her that there was a thread about her and give her the opportunity to respond 
which she did and I think she as done very well

The pictures are not very good but she looks cute and seems to have a great body.
With good pictures and profile which I am sure someone could help her with
She could make her self a nice living do some London tours.
Think I would be up for go.

Impressed she posted on here , hope she takes the advice on board

[Jimmyredcab]

The pictures are not very good but she looks cute

She may be cute but from those poxy pictures I simply don't know, maybe your eyes are better than mine.     

[Tailpipe]

She may be cute but from those poxy pictures I simply don't know, maybe your eyes are better than mine.     

No the pictures are very bad and sucking that toy does not help.

But if done right think she would look very classy.

I guessing from your posts you like them slim and so do I , she looks fit to me.

[Jimmyredcab]

I guessing from your posts you like them slim and so do I .

Maximum dress size 12, but that would be pushing it, much prefer a size 8.   

[Tailpipe]

Maximum dress size 12, but that would be pushing it, much prefer a size 8.   

 

8 is best but have seen 1 good 12 but she was tall which made it work and fit.

[Hetfield]

She may be cute but from those poxy pictures I simply don't know, maybe your eyes are better than mine.     

Just as we don't know if the blonde in Dagenham has a nice body from the pics on her profile, despite you claiming its what profile pics should be. The fact you've seen her and know she has a nice body is neither here or there. For those of us that haven't seen her, we don't know, and can't know, which out pictures to illustrate she has. So your recommendation, nay claim, is pointless because its just as bad as the pics of rhona you're criticing.

And Dagenham is a shit hole. Can't say it's any better than derby, but it's definitely a shit hole. I wouldn't live there (oh and by the way, I'm there right now, as I type this. So I do know)

Rhona, take his thread as positive. Some of the comments may sound harsh, but that's just the blunt nature of the forum. But take it on board, learn from it, and you will be better for it (professionally speaking).

In regard to money, I would simply pass you up on that alone, even if you had the best profile in the world ever. I wouldn't pay £150 for an hour of any WGs time full stop. You have to prove sensibly, especially as a relative "newbie". I wouldn't expect to walk into a new job I've not done before, with little professional experience to back myself up with, and expect £50k a year. I'd start at the bottom, on a low wage, and work my way up, commanding more money as time and experience goes on. Apply this to your situation - you have next to no feedback, so to a Punter (essentially, your employer) you are an unknown quantity.

[Jimmyredcab]

Just as we don't know if the blonde in Dagenham has a nice body from the pics on her profile, despite you claiming its what profile pics should be. The fact you've seen her and know she has a nice body is neither here or there. For those of us that haven't seen her, we don't know, and can't know, which out pictures to illustrate she has. So your recommendation, nay claim, is pointless because its just as bad as the pics of rhona you're criticing.

And Dagenham is a shit hole. Can't say it's any better than derby, but it's definitely a shit hole.

Dagenham is not the best of areas, maybe that is why she charges a very sensible £100 an hour, if she tried to get £150 her phone would soon gather dust.   

What girls think they are worth and what we think they are worth are not always the same.

[rnrn636]

RhonaSg - I'm local so Ill give you honest feedback. I was searching for someone around Nottingham/Derby the other day and did see your profile but automatically rejected it based on the price and other girls in the area offering more for less. The fact that you are new and nobody knows how good your services are as you have no feedback will make it impossible to be charging £150 per hour.

You may not have much decent competition in Derby, but that could be a bad thing = everyone on here knows to avoid the place!!!(Princess Pippa is probably the only one in Derby I'd return to, really pretty, good service charges £130 per hour although I think this is still expensive for derby)

I ended up picking a girl I had met before and I knew was good  in Nottingham (thai kimmie) £120 per hour. Above average price for the area but Again exceptionally pretty and again offers more services. I knew her profile and likes list were accurate, everyone else's feedback are what I experienced and I don't think any other nationality could beat the massage offered by thai girls in between action while recovering! So I knew my £120 will be would be well spent in advance.

Even if Nottingham sometimes does not inspire me to pick up the phone and book a girl(although I have just stumbled across the vipcallgirls agency. Some really hot girls on there which I plan to start paying a visit to ) Then Leicester/Coventry/Birmingham are all less than an hour away so plenty of choice there, such as Czech girls with loads of feedback in Birmingham charging £130 per hour for a threesome.

Its like any business, you have to offer a competitive price and while you have no reputation on forums like this one/positive feedback on AW/field reports saying that you are much better than all the other girls around you than your price has to be lower than those that have.

And as with regards to photos on your profile. Personally I dont want to see any porn photos. Especially ones with your partner's cock in your mouth/other orifice! It really puts me off! I would say a couple of natural photos, a few showing that you will make an effort with the underwear/outfit you will wear, a few that shows that you are not fat and then a few that show that you have a clean premises for incalls. NO COCKS!!

[rhonasg]

No cocks in my profile, I have added more pictures, although seem to still being called out for some but hey can't please them all and shall be adding as i go along, love trying out my outfits, outfits would be good to add to my profil *note to self*. I have left my pictures up that people didn't seem to like but more pictures i feel are better than minimal pictures, no harm in leaving them up IMO. Clearer pictures. I just like my webcam too much But got some digital as i see that's the standards really.

Not fat haha. I have lowered my price down again. See if that helps now with my improved profile but will comment back on an update on how that goes. Day 1 and no extra calls but of course very early days. So all in all improved profile i would hope. Feedback always appreciated. I don't claim to be the holy grail of prostitutes with my £150 i just claim that it works for me but i am experimenting non the less. 

[Marmalade]

No reason not to include blog photos in the gallery. Not everyone reads the blog (and if you write a blog for long it needs to be good or else it works against you). Jimmy's usually on the ball but has slipped up in implying face photos alone are enough. A photo showing the figure reassures punters that the girl is not a size 16. Face photos are good but many girls get by without them (even though it's a no-no for some people like Jimmy if you don't have one). Don't include any porn. A topless shot at most.

[rhonasg]

My guess ---------------------- none.   

Haha yes, 1 thing i did notice especially in the strip club i used to work at when i first started couple years ago. Girls would complain "I only made £150 a night" & i'd be looking at them like HUH. But then men like their ladies and you start to get in that mind set, of course it's easy. RIGHT well i have lowered my prices for i think, a 2 month trail and i will update.

[Marmalade]

Just checked your updated profile - much improved.

One word of advice about UKP now you've had advice from us - unless you plan to contribute, don't outstay your welcome. You've earned some respect by taking hard criticism on the chin and doing something with it. But although we are happy to give advice this is not a prossie help forum. Or even a general chat forum for prossies to chat to punters and other prossies. Look at the posts by prossie members who've been here a long time and you'll see they are posting about things to help punters' interests mostly, not about themselves. This might be more than you have time and energy for just now. Kind regards.

[James999]

No cocks in my profile, I have added more pictures,

No offence and all that shit, but do you have electric light where you live? It's just that the pictures are so terrible and dark, and I am amazed at just how crap the pictures are, even the most basic of phones would produce better results, don't you have a friend with a phone / camera who can take a few snaps of you, perhaps in return for a blow job or a bit of clunge 

Usually when pictures are so crap it's because the girls a bit of a porker or a minger trying to hide what she looks like, so if that's not the case, post some decent pics