Isla_Brooks - Solihull

[Dodo]

sorry to hear that you struggle to understand, I'm not  a great teacher but know it is well documented on this site what a white knight is.

You seem particularly troubled by them so would be useful to have your take.


It just seems to be that if a punter has a positive opinion of a girl who has received a negative or neutral review from another punter then if that alternative opinion is aired he becomes a White Night.
Now I doubt that was the intention

[twister]

ooooooh you lot,,,,calm down....lmfao.

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[Oralbgood]

I would just like to say that her new B&W profile picture is absolutely STUNNING

Regards
OBG
 

[bearcat69]

Merely pointing out that what is obvious. 
Its utterly misleading. wouldn't you agree Bearcat ? 

Since you've asked me a question directly Jawbreak, I'm going to give you a bit of an answer.

Firstly, I thought you were a cooler guy than this. Some of the stuff you've said to me.. well I'm surprised to say the least.

But I think VW has pretty much given you all the reasons for this, her excessive coms, not wanting to be bothered by her, me not wanting to tarnish my AW record. Since I don't have much feedback on AW and I am trying to build up feedback so that I can see certain WGs who will only see members with a certain amount of feedback. I really do think it's quite easy to understand. I'm not claiming to be some whiter than white perfect person just because I posted this review here on UKP. I think you and some others on here are holding me to some ridiculously high standards. I don't really use AW much to make bookings as I prefer to contact the WG directly (by phone or text) and make a booking directly, I think that that is a better way to do things, and I also think AW feedback and the amount of pure bullshit on the website is meaningless to me as a punter and to my prerogative. But I am prepared to try to play the game on there a bit if it means I'd be able to see a few SP's that I'm interesting in seeing, even though I think it's bullshit and that UKP is where a knowledgeable punter should come to give and hear real honest opinions.

Also, your previous comment about only reviewing a SP based on how they compare to other SP's, and my review being based on previous reviews. Well, if I'm going to compare her to Emily, Nicole, Ashley or Victoria, then Isla would not come out favourably in such a comparison.

But all of this really is none of your business. The only reason I respond to this, is because, well like I said Jawbreak, I thought better of you. But look, if I've offended you or you think less of me, then, well, sorry about that was not intentional at all. Like I said in my review "I’m likely doing myself no favours by posting with review" - I think some have interpreted that as me saying I won't be able to see Isla again and I'm upset about that. Wrong. It's because I knew I'd get this bullshit thrown at me and that other WGs who read this forum might not want to accept a booking from me for fear of me posting a similarly honest review about them. But if that is the case, well so be it. If that's the unprofessional attitude they take, then they are probably not worth seeing in the first place.

[Jawbreak]

Since you've asked me a question directly Jawbreak, I'm going to give you a bit of an answer.

Firstly, I thought you were a cooler guy than this. Some of the stuff you've said to me.. well I'm surprised to say the least.

But I think VW has pretty much given you all the reasons for this, her excessive coms, not wanting to be bothered by her, me not wanting to tarnish my AW record. Since I don't have much feedback on AW and I am trying to build up feedback so that I can see certain WGs who will only see members with a certain amount of feedback. I really do think it's quite easy to understand. I'm not claiming to be some whiter than white perfect person just because I posted this review here on UKP. I think you and some others on here are holding me to some ridiculously high standards. I don't really use AW much to make bookings as I prefer to contact the WG directly (by phone or text) and make a booking directly, I think that that is a better way to do things, and I also think AW feedback and the amount of pure bullshit on the website is meaningless to me as a punter and to my prerogative. But I am prepared to try to play the game on there a bit if it means I'd be able to see a few SP's that I'm interesting in seeing, even though I think it's bullshit and that UKP is where a knowledgeable punter should come to give and hear real honest opinions.

Also, your previous comment about only reviewing a SP based on how they compare to other SP's, and my review being based on previous reviews. Well, if I'm going to compare her to Emily, Nicole, Ashley or Victoria, then Isla would not come out favourably in such a comparison.

But all of this really is none of your business. The only reason I respond to this, is because, well like I said Jawbreak, I thought better of you. But look, if I've offended you or you think less of me, then, well, sorry about that was not intentional at all. Like I said in my review "I’m likely doing myself no favours by posting with review" - I think some have interpreted that as me saying I won't be able to see Isla again and I'm upset about that. Wrong. It's because I knew I'd get this bullshit thrown at me and that other WGs who read this forum might not want to accept a booking from me for fear of me posting a similarly honest review about them. But if that is the case, well so be it. If that's the unprofessional attitude they take, then they are probably not worth seeing in the first place.

Do your best, im not interested anymore
You and your mate virtalwaster are playing some sort of game
I have made my point I accept your review was quite misleading and your AW feedback for Isla is even more misleading
Im a white knight and a hypocrite.

Thanks goodbye - lets close this chapter and move on ...because guess what  - i have 

[Dellboy]

Thanks goodbye - lets close this chapter and move on.

This is a very sensible posting on this topic.
Too many members are trying to score points rather than read the review for what it was. I was surprised at the negative but it was his choice and his right. FFS let's all move on. 

[Taylor2441]

There is a shortage of baked beans.  Let's all cause a riot over nothing.

[bearcat69]

I have made my point I accept your review was quite misleading and your AW feedback for Isla is even more misleading

There was no deliberate attempt by me to mislead anybody.

You've moved on, but still putting words into my mouth and twisting things. Does come across like somebody personally upset that a prostitute they like has been criticised. I don't know VW at all, his words and posts on here are his choice and his business not mine.

[smiley9]

I had my doubts at the beginning Bearcat but you clearly came away from the punt feeling more Negative than positive so you were correct to post a Negative Review 

[Jawbreak]

There was no deliberate attempt by me to mislead anybody.

You've moved on, but still putting words into my mouth and twisting things. Does come across like somebody personally upset that a prostitute they like has been criticised. I don't know VW at all, his words and posts on here are his choice and his business not mine.

Look last time im replying to you seriously.
Every reply I have posted on here regarding your replies has been unedited
Every reply you have given, you have edited my response

Move on mate get over it please.
 

[The Owl]

Eighteen reviews, only one negative and two neutral. I think it's a fairly low risk that I won't enjoy her when I get round to booking her. She looks pretty alt (a younger Elise Adore type) she ticks more than enough boxes for me.

Storm in a tea cup.

[bearcat69]

Look last time im replying to you seriously.
Every reply I have posted on here regarding your replies has been unedited
Every reply you have given, you have edited my response

Move on mate get over it please.
 

Still telling me what I should or shouldn't do. I have moved on BTW  . I get that you want this thread to die, completely understandable. It is what it is.. Hard as this might be for you to understand, I have absolutely no control over that.

[Talbear]

IS THIS STILL GOING ON...?????

[PepeMAGA]

IS THIS STILL GOING ON...?????

yeah, quite. posted a couple of days ago and it's up to seven pages.
think it was worth a bit of discussion (not argument) over the negative and even a bit over the conflicting positive. but no value in falling out or getting precious about it all.
as someone else has said, regardless of the scoring its a useful review.

[vw]

Im a white knight and a hypocrite.

seemed admin thought to to.   

I get that you want this thread to die

I don't get it at all why grown men want threads to die ?

[azrael]

seemed admin thought to to.   

I don't get it at all why grown men want threads to die ?

For fucks sakes vw, you got what you wanted jb's gone so can we please drop the shenanegans and put an end to this review

[vw]

For fucks sakes vw, you got what you wanted jb's gone so can we please drop the shenanegans and put an end to this review

Never wanted him gone, if i did I would have reported him.

maybe ask admin to lock it for you ?

[opal]

Amazing & detailed FR, and the first negative FR I've ever seen where the poster says he'd like to see the girl again!

[licker]

So is Isla clean now, all tests negative does anyone know

Cheers L

Amazing & detailed FR, and the first negative FR I've ever seen where the poster says he'd like to see the girl again!

[licker]

Hi BC

Great review, I know where your coming from.

Are you both all clean and healthy?

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The Short Story
A slightly awkward meeting with a very eager to please girl, which ended up being an experience I did enjoy in the end, but then left me with an unfortunately after taste.

Services & Price
• £120 paid for a 1 hour incall.
• DFK, RO, Rimming (her), OWO, (almost) DT, Face Fucking, Protected Sex (Doggy, RCG, CG, Mish, Squats), Spanking her.
• I managed one pop after about 55 minutes. One shower (5 minutes) in the middle of the punt (although a shower was offered before and after). I was in her house for about 1 hour and 10 minutes.

Lead-in, Communication & Location
I’d read more than a bit about this WG on UKP since she came onto the scene a few months ago, and from pretty much the first review I wanted to see her. Not least because she ticks almost all the boxes on what I find attractive, but because of the sound of that oral, kissing and enthusiastic sex.

After waiting about a month for the fuss to calm down, it didn’t and just thought, fuck it, I’ll contact her. Her Dudley location was an inconvenience for me and would have meant a long journey, as I don’t have personal transport right now, but was prepared to go to the effort and arrange something. Four or five messages exchanged and I’d almost got to the point of thinking it was more effort to arrange than was worth it. Sixth message she just gave me her number and told me to phone her. Talking to her on the phone was a pleasure and to my surprise she told me she was now taking incalls in her home in Solihull (this was just before she updated her profile). She was very accommodating and opened up a booking slot so that I could see her at a time that best suited us both. Booking made and she confirmed it the next day.

I shit you not, one of the texts she sent me during this gave me an instant erection. This girl certainly knows how to talk in a way that appeals to the dirty part of a man’s mind. Part of her presenting herself in a certain way for her job, or a genuine lust for sex? More on that later..

Well, as she now states on her profile “I am in Solihull B91 about 5 minutes from the town centre.” I think she means 5 minutes by car though. Would be about a 20 minute walk. It took me 40 minutes on 2 busses to get there and a 10 minute walk. Nice and discrete location in a calm neighbourhood. Nicely furnished inside her home too. Nicely clean, tidy, warm and comfy. The style you see in the way she dresses in reflected on the way she’s furnished the place. A good bathroom is there right next to the bedroom, with a modern shower. A metal framed double bed with lovely bedsheets. A conveniently located fluffy rug next to the bed and full length mirrors up against the wall next to the rug and at the end of the bed.

Isla_Brooks: Appearance & Personality
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She looked pretty much exactly how she looks it that above photo. The only request I made of her was to wear stockings and the rest is up to her. She phoned me as I was on my way and confirmed this and suggested suspender belt as well, which obviously, I agreed with. She opened the door just wearing black stockings, the suspender belt, black thong, black bra, knee length boots, and nothing else. She wasn’t wearing glasses though and the stockings were slightly different, but you get the picture.

Previous descriptions of her are accurate, as are her pictures. I was particularly taken back by how slim she is. I would say she looks a size 8 bordering on 6 to me. She looks very good, but she is almost too thin for my preferences, there’s not an ounce of fat on her torso. But don’t get me wrong, although I do prefer a bit more meat on the bone, I’m not complaining and I wasn’t put off, her figure is very impressive. Her ass is fantastic and incredibly sexy, nicely plump and juicy with a sexy meaty pussy that peaks out at you, and she has nice long (for her height) legs and lovely little hands and feet. Stated age of 29 and height of 5’2”, I believe are accurate. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she’s actually a few years older, but I doubt it. I enjoyed her firm little titties, especially her nicely responsive nipples.

Her eyes are a little smaller than I expected, they are nice though, and she even joked about how she might have some Asian heritage. Her lips are nice and full enough, but there is a bit of acne on her chin and some piercing holes around her mouth. I don’t mind a bit of acne, but I was maybe slightly put off, particularly by the piercing holes. Well enough maintained, slightly wavy black shoulder length hair. She’s attractive facially, not supermodel looks, but her face has a lot of personality and she’s good at pulling cute and/or dirty faces. She wasn’t wearing much makeup at all, which is what I prefer, but a little bit more wouldn’t have done her any harm.

Her personality is hard to explain. She’s a feisty one, frank and very chatty, full of banter and sex puns. Her voice drips with sex appeal. She’s an attentive lady, eager to please with a slightly awkward nervous and sensitive sensual side. As I say, it’s hard to explain.

The Action
She directed me to her door on the phone, I was slightly confused and could see her standing behind the door. I told her I could see her. She told told me, no that’s someone else. I lightly knocked the door, she pulls me inside. Next thing I know I’m up against the wall and she’s eating my face off. I’m trying to say hello as she snogs me, gripping my jacket and occasionally biting my lip whilst sneaking her tongue inside me. She’s smiling and giggling looking up at me.

“Shall we go to the bedroom,” I nod in agreement. She starts to walk up the stairs, I follow. I notice her ass. I stop and admire the view. “Shall I crawl” she purrs, “yes please.” She crawls on all fours up the stairs, I can see her pussy lips peeking out from her thong, she turns her head around putting her finger up to her lips to make a naughty face. Fucking hell, that was one head rush inducing way to great a client.

Into the bedroom, she shows herself off more, spreading her legs and twirling them around, she fiddles with putting on some music and after more kissing and groping she suggests we get the paperwork sorted. She asks if I need a shower, I declined because I just kind of thought, well we’re already into things, no need for a shower. We kissed more and she lays on the bed showing off her ass. I get in there and eat her pussy and ass, she tasted nice and was responsive, grinding back in to me and making the right noises. The RO was nice (and she tastes very fresh) but brief, she pulled away after maybe a minute and sat in front of me, making a teasing face at me as she showed of her pussy.

We ended up sat on the bed together and she asked me what I like. She suggested GFE, I agreed, but asked for a bit of a PSE side to things. Emphasise on the word ‘bit’ there. I know she’s more of a dirty GFE kind of girl, not a PSE girl. I just wanted an enthusiastic dirty GFE. I should have said that, so my fault really. What can I say? A hot girl in front of you acting how she does, the brain doesn’t necessarily work so well at that point. She started getting all “oh so you want me to be your dirty little porn star?!” Well yeah. But not so blunt about it.

She sucked me off with a lot of enthusiasm as I was laying down on the bed, then we moved onto the rug besides the bed (as she suggested). She kind of disappointed me a slight bit. The immediate thing she said to me was “warn me when you are going to cum.” Now look, an understandable thing to ask, but I mean, she could let me get into it without breaking the illusion so bluntly. She’s a hot girl, who gives a very skilful BJ, but I don’t cum instantly the moment I get my knob inside a pretty girl’s mouth. At a certain point during the punt we ended having to have a bit of a conversation about this. She basically really wanted to make me cum from oral (and I certainly would have liked for her to have been able to bring me there) but I had to tell her it’s unlikely to happen easily and could take a long time. She was encouraging me to cum all over her face, asking me to specifically specify where I wanted to cum, and then encouraging me to do it, playing up to the idea of being a porn star. Well I didn’t cum on her face, I just couldn’t relax into it. To put it simply, there’s such a thing as too much talking.

Another thing I’ve got to say is that it wasn’t quite DT she gave me. She put her hand at the base of my cock and sucked me up to that length. So, a shame, I was a bit disappointed by that. Don’t get me wrong though, she is very good at sucking cock, she definitely knows what she is doing and even let me face fuck her a bit. But I have had better blowjobs in my life, still though I enjoyed it for what is was.

Anyway, after the initial BJ on the rug, raincoat on and we had some doggy on the edge of the bed. This was good and got quite hard and I was into it. But she was awkward. She moaned in a bit of an incongruous way at first, telling me to “calm down, you’ve got a big dick.” I had barely got myself inside her and I was calm. But, I slowly built up the pace and she seemed to get into it. Also, I’d consider myself maybe slightly above average on a good day, so I don’t really understand what she was on about. It was a bit weird fucking her, it was like at times she was overly fake in her noises and reactions, but at other times she seemed genuinely into it, like she couldn’t get enough of having me inside her, and at other times she didn’t make much noise at all. Her pussy does feel nice, but not the tightest pussy ever. But like I say, I got into it and gave her a hard fuck in the end, with her fucking back into me, encouraging me to spank her ass and making very genuine sounding noises of excitement.

After the doggy I asked for missionary, but she suddenly suggested I have a shower, saying that I look too warm. I went along with this and had a shower. Weird experience, fun though and she popped in with me and sucked me off in the shower and then went off to let me shower on my own. I was trying to dry myself and she came and grabbed me, pulling me back into the bedroom. More BJ on the rug and on the bed, this was the bit with her encouraging me to cum on her face and it not happening. Then a bit more RO and we ended up on the bed. She gave me an impressive RCG squat, positioning herself in a variety different sexy ways. After that we had a bit of mish, then more OWO, then more mish. This is when the sex did start to build up and I fucked her pretty hard, her taking it well. We kissed quite passionately and I reached under to hold her ass cheeks, really going at it. I was getting breathless and still hadn’t cum. She offered to go on top, standard CG and then CG with squats. I encouraged her to fuck me hard, which she tried her best to do. I took matters into my own hands and held her hips and then her ass, pushing her up and down on me and I finally managed to cum. She gave my dick a hard squeeze with her pussy muscles before carefully getting off me and helping me with the condom and clean up.

Then we laid down together, snogging and snuggling, and had an interesting conversation. She talked about her photos on UKE a bit and her appearance, and we talked about the meeting. She told me she wasn’t sure about how to act with me as I didn’t talk much, telling me I’m shy and then quickly apologising for saying that. Well I’m there to have sex really, not for a natter. I liked her personality, she comes across as honest and fun, but I just didn’t really click with her in that way. It was like she wanted to review the punt at the end before I left, which was slightly awkward. She also went on about not minding being called a hooker, wanting to take the word back or something, not exactly what I want to talk about with her. But I mean, good for her. Anyway, she fed me, giving me two cream eggs and we talked about chocolate, which was more fun. I wiped myself down and got dressed, with a brief BJ, kiss and grope in the middle. She helped me with directions to where I needed to go next and led me to her door. A long hug and snog by the door, with her grabbing my package and me grabbing her ass. She whispered in my ear to look in my pocket and then I left. I looked in my pocket, there was another cream egg.

Afterthoughts
Overall it was a good meet. It lacked a fantasy escapism feeling to things, which is how I feel a very good GFE should go, and it was all a bit too real. But that didn’t stop me from enjoying it, and it is maybe unintentionally partially my fault. I think she is just one of those sorts of WGs that tries hard to understand her client and wants to be sure she’s giving them what they want. I’m more the sort the of guy who just likes sex to flow naturally. She needn’t have fussed so much and just done what she was doing without questioning and directing me so much. I think it shows a good honest, service focused attitude from her, which is a good thing in my book, but perhaps shows a bit of inexperience and uncertainty from her. She’s a hot girl how is skilled in the bedroom, I’m happy to come and visit her and pay for the pleasure of having sex with her. It’s not rocket science.

Would I go back?
I would like to try her again, once I’m as sure as can be that we are both clean and healthy, that’s if she’ll have me. She might not want to after reading this review. But that’s up to her, I mean no ill intentions to her by posting this, and I’m likely doing myself no favours by posting with review. But I do so in the interest of posting my honest opinion on things.

I’m well aware of the recent review from another individual and the furore that followed that. It’s a risk of seeing a prostitute which is always there. I don’t know what the girl does or doesn’t do when I’m not there, or what other punters she’s seen get up to. I can only make as sure as possible that I see girls that don’t advertise bareback and have a healthy attitude to their job. She came across as a very clean and intelligent girl to me, and we had as clean as possible safe sex together. I will be getting myself tested as I do every few months anyway. I was planning to make this my last punt for a month or two anyway, so I guess that coincides with that and I won’t be doing any punts or having any sex until I’m sure I’m all clear. I don’t blame Isla, but it’s not exactly given me the nicest of post punt feelings. So, that leaves the question; is this a positive, negative, or neutral experience. Well it’s not neutral, it’s both positive and negative. But I’m afraid on balance, the slight awkwardness of the punt plus the unpleasant post punt feeling, I’m afraid Isla_Brooks gets her first negative review on UKP.

[vw]

Are you both all clean and healthy?

Was mentioned somewhere that ISLA got the all clear, think may have been on UKE.  On her wall External Link/Members Only

Seemed Dodo and jawbreak could not stop moaning about this review on UKE and got banned there also.   

Cue the azrael moan about bumping this 

[azrael]

Cue the azrael moan about bumping this 

Wow really......vw you said your piece then, suprised it took you another two weeks to think of something else to whinge about 

[vw]

Wow really......vw you said your piece then, suprised it took you another two weeks to think of something else to whinge about 

 

This punter asked a question i answered well half of it.

I was correct that you would come and moan about the bump then ! 

[azrael]

This punter asked a question i answered well half of it.

I was correct that you would come and moan about the bump then ! 

Nah budd, your wrong about the bump i moaned about your constant whinging. If you'd just answered the frakking question and not had a snidy dig at me i wouldnt have said sweet fa, but as usuall you love sticking the boot in when you get the chance 

[bearcat69]

Hi BC

Great review, I know where your coming from.

Are you both all clean and healthy?

I'm fine, had two tests since this punt and haven't caught anything. Thanks for your concern though.

The chances of me catching anything from what I did with Isla were very low anyway. This pastime can be very rewarding but it's not without it's risks and it's not for the squeamish. Maybe that isn't the point, but I mean.. you make your choices and shit happens, so that I guess is the way I look at this punt now.

As for Isla, as virtualwaster says she's seems to be OK from what she's posted on UKE. You'd have to ask her yourself it you want further reassurances. I myself have not contacted her since the punt, that's her business not mine.

[Sandman2017]

I'm gob smacked , I've read all of this and everything this girl did was awesome, seemed like they both had a great time, did more than I ever do in a meet , yet a negative review , am I missing something!!!

[bearcat69]

I'm gob smacked , I've read all of this and everything this girl did was awesome, seemed like they both had a great time, did more than I ever do in a meet , yet a negative review , am I missing something!!!

Well considering you go to a parlour where full service is available and are happy to pay to just to get a handjob, then maybe I have difference expectations out of a punt that you do sir.

If you think an awkward blowjob, awkward unenthusiastic sex and an awkward post-punt conversation were she basically was rude to me means "everything this girl did was awesome" well then, good for you. I don't know what to say really, perhaps read the review again a bit more carefully.

Negatives
-limited RO
-fake noises
-complaining about my dick
-labeling me as shy (this has to be one of the weirdest things a prossie has said to me)
-making other personal comments towards me (about my appearance)
-being overly personal in general
-very poor and unconvincing attempt to roleplay a pornstar
-immediately at the start of the OWO asking me to tell her when I'm going to cum, and then asking it over and over again
-time consuming and awkward communications
-the mid punt shower
-not full DT and also it was quite toothy
-asking me to specify over and over again where I'm going to cum
-used too much lube (forgot to mention this)
-loose pussy
-off putting stuff around her mouth
-not really fucking me all that enthusiastically (I had to take things into my own hands and push her up and down on me to cum)
-skinnier looking than her photos
-than stupid shit she said about wanting to take back the word hooker
-stop/start flow to the sex
-just generally too much talking and fussing
-some indiscretion on communication (she actually texted me 3 hours after I texted her in the morning to confirm the booking was still on)

Make no mistake, this was a disappointing punt for me, and I meant to post a negative review. Had I written this review on another day I could have put my experience in a far less nice way.

[Benson50]

I'm gob smacked , I've read all of this and everything this girl did was awesome, seemed like they both had a great time, did more than I ever do in a meet , yet a negative review , am I missing something!!!

All I can guess is that, whereas most people try to be objective about the girl's performance  (as in the example below,  where the experience and vfm sounded vastly inferior to that of bearcat), bearcat has given a subjective rating based upon his feeling about the punt.
As with all subjective accounts, maybe his review reveals more about him  (his expectations and insecurities) than it does about the girl.

I didn't think it fair to post it as a negative as she did nothing wrong and provided services advertised adequately enough. I suppose in hindsight I should have marked it neutral. My only negatives would be against those who suggested her in the first place!

[bearcat69]

All I can guess is that, whereas most people try to be objective about the girl's performance  (as in the example below,  where the experience and vfm sounded vastly inferior to that of bearcat), bearcat has given a subjective rating based upon his feeling about the punt.
As with all subjective accounts, maybe his review reveals more about him  (his expectations and insecurities) than it does about the girl.

I'm sorry but that is pure nonsense.

A review is always inherently subjective in my opinion. It is always going to be based on how somebody feels about the punt. If the girl gives me bad service, then I feel disappointed by it. It has nothing to do with me having insecurities about anything. I mean seriously, how the girl is towards you is a significant part of what does or doesn't lead to good service. Sex is not enjoyable for me if the girl isn't nice to me. I don't expect to get treated like I'm her best friend who has known her for years, but I don't think constantly being awkward and saying stupid stuff to me is my idea of fun. For other people that might have been their idea of a great time, but not for me.

If you're thinking "well this guy is just too easily upset about little things" then you have got the wrong end of the stick. She fussed and messed about too much, and that led to a crap shag with an awkward stop/start flow that made it hard to enjoy. That is an objective fact. I didn't ask her to behave like that. Other's would call her behaviour time-wasting and using deliberate tactics to stop me from having proper enjoyable sex with her.

[cueball]

All I can guess is that, whereas most people try to be objective about the girl's performance  (as in the example below,  where the experience and vfm sounded vastly inferior to that of bearcat), bearcat has given a subjective rating based upon his feeling about the punt.
As with all subjective accounts, maybe his review reveals more about him  (his expectations and insecurities) than it does about the girl.

See reply #176

I think bearcat has done more than enough to get across his reasons for rating this review as he did.

I'll bet he's sick of having to come back on to re-justify it all to another one who hasn't read the thread properly.

Read the whole thread, imo it's all there.

[vw]

All I can guess is that, whereas most people try to be objective about the girl's performance  (as in the example below,  where the experience and vfm sounded vastly inferior to that of bearcat), bearcat has given a subjective rating based upon his feeling about the punt.
As with all subjective accounts, maybe his review reveals more about him  (his expectations and insecurities) than it does about the girl.

another fan boy, attacking bearcat68.   

Oh well sure the queen is delighted at this being bumped again

[Dellboy]

See reply #176

I think bearcat has done more than enough to get across his reasons for rating this review as he did.

I'll bet he's sick of having to come back on to re-justify it all to another one who hasn't read the thread properly.

Read the whole thread, imo it's all there.

Wise words Cueball.
I can't believe that a review - his opinion is the only one that counts on his review - has created such vitriolic and IMO ridiculous side issues.

All this excess will do is to discourage new members from posting reviews. ....and we have too many members already who take all the info available on here but never share their experiences for the benefit of the forum.

[James999]

All I can guess is

Exactly, unless you were there you don't know, so stop trying to blame his bad experience on him in some fucked up effort to please the pro$$ie, White Knights are about as welcome here as a pig in a Muzzie church 

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She's also gonna be pissed that you bumped her negative review 

[cueball]

All this excess will do is to discourage new members from posting reviews. ....and we have too many members already who take all the info available on here but never share their experiences for the benefit of the forum.

Indeed. The last thing we want in any region is genuine members being put off reviewing because of toe kissing fan boys that just can't accept that their latest flower basket can give a bad performance.

Smith's thread on the main board (challenging the dodgy) is very apt and a recommended read for all.

[Benson50]

another fan boy, attacking bearcat68.   

Oh well sure the queen is delighted at this being bumped again

I'm no fan boy - never met the girl.

I'm just trying to be objective.

There appears to be a natural suspicion about a review which sounds positive but has a negative rating (based purely on "the slight awkwardness of the punt" and "the unpleasant post punt feeling")

I'm more suspicious of the emphasis he now places on the negatives in post 176 which would seem to contradict his own summation in the original review. 

[vw]

Indeed. The last thing we want in any region is genuine members being put off reviewing because of toe kissing fan boys that just can't accept that their latest flower basket can give a bad performance.

Smith's thread on the main board (challenging the dodgy) is very apt and a recommended read for all.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=132894.0

 

[vw]

I'm no fan boy - never met the girl.

I'm just trying to be objective.

There appears to be a natural suspicion about a review which sounds positive but has a negative rating (based purely on "the slight awkwardness of the punt" and "the unpleasant post punt feeling")

I'm more suspicious of the emphasis he now places on the negatives in post 176 which would seem to contradict his own summation in the original review.

How about a review of your own before making up suspicion on other peoples ?

You all forget the icing on the cake she had to call him as she fucked up and fucked a barebacker on multiple occasions, that might piss people off as it did with benson. 

Her careless attitude caused him some worry and stress.

think you idiots need big reminder of this fact, think bearcat was to considerate about the impact of this matter this matter.

[Benson50]

Exactly, unless you were there you don't know

That's an interesting development, you have to have been at the punt to have any opinion about a review?

[cueball]

I'm just trying to be objective.

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It's all well and good you saying you're being objective but from here it looks like you're trying to undo the negative review that the op did and cloud it.

Now, as you say you've not seen her, are you trying to fix it in your head that she couldn't possibly give a less than stellar punt? Are you Looking at seeing her in the near future?

Accept it for what it is. Better still, book her, fuck her and REVIEW her.

Imo bearcat has come across as genuine and giving HIS honest opinion.

[Benson50]

It's all well and good you saying you're being objective but from here it looks like you're trying to undo the negative review that the op did and cloud it.

Now, as you say you've not seen her, are you trying to fix it in your head that she couldn't possibly give a less than stellar punt? Are you Looking at seeing her in the near future?

Accept it for what it is. Better still, book her, fuck her and REVIEW her.

Imo bearcat has come across as genuine and giving HIS honest opinion.

I was merely trying to understand, and explain to the "gobsmacked" how a review that reads as more positive than many positive reviews, should end up with a negative rating.
l have no personal investment in this - it's hard to see why some people get so worked up about a situation which does not personally affect them in any way.

[Benson50]

I'm sorry but that is pure nonsense.

A review is always inherently subjective in my opinion. It is always going to be based on how somebody feels about the punt. If the girl gives me bad service, then I feel disappointed by it. It has nothing to do with me having insecurities about anything. I mean seriously, how the girl is towards you is a significant part of what does or doesn't lead to good service. Sex is not enjoyable for me if the girl isn't nice to me. I don't expect to get treated like I'm her best friend who has known her for years, but I don't think constantly being awkward and saying stupid stuff to me is my idea of fun. For other people that might have been their idea of a great time, but not for me.

If you're thinking "well this guy is just too easily upset about little things" then you have got the wrong end of the stick. She fussed and messed about too much, and that led to a crap shag with an awkward stop/start flow that made it hard to enjoy. That is an objective fact. I didn't ask her to behave like that. Other's would call her behaviour time-wasting and using deliberate tactics to stop me from having proper enjoyable sex with her.

Well said bearcat.

I probably overstated the case but I think it is the case that some people stand back from their personal feelings  (like Plicious did) and try to be "fair", whereas others speak from the heart. Neither is right or wrong but we all probably sit in one camp or the other and judge reviews accordingly.

[shithappens]

Here come the fan boys! 

InAgree stapler , here come the cavelery
Oh I think she really likes me
Oh we seemed to hit it off straight away

Load of old tosh 

[Benson50]

InAgree stapler , here come the cavelery
Oh I think she really likes me
Oh we seemed to hit it off straight away

Load of old tosh 

Shit just happened.

[cueball]

I was merely trying to understand, and explain to the "gobsmacked" how a review that reads as more positive than many positive reviews, should end up with a negative rating. like I said earlier,, did you actually read the whole thread. All the information is there, there's nothing at all imo that leaves any doubt now, the op has reposted on numerous occasions stating where he's at and how he feels

l have no personal investment in this - it's hard to see why some people get so worked up about a situation which does not personally affect them in any way. yes, I thought that when I read your post

Couple of reactions in red for you benny.

Fwiw... this thread is a good example of poor form. For example... not accepting the reviewer is right to share his opinion and rate how he feels he wants to.

That's why it's turned into a bicker, it's about giving honest members the confidence to share and not expect constant questioning and having to justify why he might not agree with the fans.

The point that is trying to be made is.... it's his review, his rating and his opinion. If it's honest and genuine then that's fact in my book.

You might understand more if you yourself put some effort into the site by reviewing your activities.

[bearcat69]

I'm no fan boy - never met the girl.

I'm just trying to be objective.

There appears to be a natural suspicion about a review which sounds positive but has a negative rating (based purely on "the slight awkwardness of the punt" and "the unpleasant post punt feeling")

I'm more suspicious of the emphasis he now places on the negatives in post 176 which would seem to contradict his own summation in the original review.

Bar her using too much lube and the indiscretion on coms, everything mentioned in that list of negatives was mentioned in my review.

I write how many word? I don't know can't be arsed going over it now, but it was a lot, you're bothered about a few lines I put in the summary. Golfnut was bothered by my summary too. What's the banning reason " undesirable' or something like that. People can be suspicious if they like.. Although seems an odd thing to call suspicion on. I wonder what you think I get out of it?

Seems to me it's probably more wise to place suspicion on those who may want to white-knight a prossie or do other undesirable things towards them, instead of wasting energy in a silly argument over semantics.

But yeah.. I could've summarised the punt better. Fucking an attractive girl is always enjoyable to me on some level, but that doesn't mean I can't instinctively see when I am given substandard service. Sometimes it's difficult to sum up that contradictory set of circumstances and putting such a thing into words in a review is not always easy. I look forwards to reading your attempts to do just that it your future reviews or your other input in to this site made for reviewing and sharing information on prostitutes

[Dellboy]

He would if he could but he can't cos he's banned!

[Madone1]

How many more white knights are going to come out defending her it's getting ridiculous how.

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[cueball]

Shit just happened.

You can say that again  oh, no you can't 

[vw]

I'm gob smacked

Me to

4 grown men gone from the same girls review !   

She must be something special.   

[mikexxlong]

How many more white knights are going to come out defending her it's getting ridiculous how.

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one could speculate that the pro$$ie encourages it !

or maybe the fluffy white knights are just trying to prove they are the true defenders of her reputation 

six of one, half a dozen of the other