SS birds stop being princesses - learn how to be a good indie

[Pepsiii]

I've been reading about Sandys birds thinking their princesses just because they worked at Sandys . This doesn't justify them in asking for silly amounts of money whilst some offering mediorce service as indies. Yes, you might have been a parlour legend at Sandys but you've a alot to learn about being a good indie and stop asking for ridiculous amounts of money pushing the price to £150 and way beyond.

Sandys is no more and you have to realise you can't pull the wool over punters eyes like you could at Sandys.  Offer a good inclusive service at reasonable cost to retain our custom.

[cueball]

I could of written that post 

I've been bashing on about it for a while now 

Well said 

[Pepsiii]

Cue, the punting godfather :-)
I think you wrote something similar -:)

It's the Sandys birds that are working at parlours who look to offer a better service than those gone indie. Obviously if a Sandys bird gave a lack lustre service at a parlour you would be in your rights to go complain to reception, who would tell them off or else they'll be asked to leave.

It's the small percentage of Sandys birds working thinking they can trade off the Sandys name whilst offering a shit service which won't work anymore -:)

I could of written that post 

I've been bashing on about it for a while now 

Well said 

[NigelF]

Totally agree 

It should catch up with them eventually though, either directly through a lack of customers in total or more subtly such as a relative lack of easy and reliable regulars.

[cueball]

Cue, the punting grandfather :-)

I think this sums it up better than godfather 

[Carpy]

Have no interest in parlours so was excited at the prospect some of the girls going Indy at a more reasonable rate- my logic being that there were going into a more competitive marketplace.

But the lowest price I have seen is £140 per hour, and the you realise naughtyaimy is cheaper

Will wait and see what happens over time, I'm sure some will see the light of day

[McSwell]

Have no interest in parlours so was excited at the prospect some of the girls going Indy at a more reasonable rate- my logic being that there were going into a more competitive marketplace.

But the lowest price I have seen is £140 per hour, and the you realise naughtyaimy is cheaper

Will wait and see what happens over time, I'm sure some will see the light of day

Naughtyaimyxxxx could teach them a thing or two !!!    mmm   fancy the idea  of that

Naughtyaimyxxxx's  Acadamy for Naughty Girls"       


McSwell

[frankc]

Quote from: Pepsiii on Yesterday at 07:22:30 pm
Cue, the punting grandfather :-)




If your " Grandad", I must be " Uncle Albert"....

[cueball]

If your " Grandad", I must be " Uncle Albert"....

Dooring ver woarr 

[frankc]

Dooring ver woarr 

I don't speak fluent cockney but I got there in the end......

[cueball]

I don't speak fluent cockney but I got there in the end......

I'll be the fool and you can be the horse 

[frankc]

I'll be the fool and you can be the horse 

Yeah but who'll be Trigger...?

[cueball]

Yeah but who'll be Trigger...?

Without doubt, tcm.... he's got the brush and the handle 

[Home Alone]

Yeah but who'll be Trigger...?

Without doubt, tcm.... he's got the brush and the handle 

    

[threechilliman]

But the lowest price I have seen is £140 per hour, and the you realise naughtyaimy is cheaper

Indeed, which is why I'll be leaving ex-SS birds alone for a bit. Takes a while for that parlour style routine to wear off and it never completely disappears.

tcm

[frankc]

Without doubt, tcm.... he's got the brush and the handle 

 

[Roxie-Manchester]

I no longer provide incalls. The price I advertised was the price I was advised to display. When my prices went up and down it was not me who made that change - it was A another person who has access to my aw profile. The reason I left half hour gaps inbetween my clients was to assure a no rush service. If a client booked an hour he actually stayed for the extra half hour also. Time to have a shower/coffee if they like and time for me to shower and make the place look presentable and professional. I.e. fresh towels, bathroom/showerroom clean and dry so it looked like it hadn't been used.
And as for the princesses remark- any woman who refers to herself as a princess is indeed a girl not a woman.

[VOLPONE]

The price I advertised was the price I was advised to display. When my prices went up and down it was not me who made that change - it was A another person who has access to my aw profile.

A as in Angel?

[Roxie-Manchester]

No. I won't mention names. I can assure you it wasn't Angel

[BeastWilkinson]

External Link/Members Only    £150 for 30mins.... £250 for an hour....Petrah from sandys superstars!!!!. I haven't heard one good thing about this girl and for some crazy reason she thinks she deserves £250 an HOUR !!!

[Trotter671]

External Link/Members Only    £150 for 30mins.... £250 for an hour....Petrah from sandys superstars!!!!. I haven't heard one good thing about this girl and for some crazy reason she thinks she deserves £250 an HOUR !!!

Her pics look good but prices fookin' outrageous 0 feedback since profile start in December and asking for those prices, especially in the North West  - you can get cheaper for an absolute stunner down London way. I could be wrong but I'm guessing the phrase 'dusty phone' will be apt.

[Devil may cry]

If you have not seem them before then you really cant make any  judgement. They are all offering different prices which they think will work out best for them.

I think Imogen is good value and would see her.  Farrah (miss Chelsea brook) is on the expensive side but she is one of the best I have seen. I have not seen her much because of her price and she always abroad, but to others maybe she is worth it , and maybe she still has lots of regulars.     

[Blackpool Rock]

External Link/Members Only    £150 for 30mins.... £250 for an hour....Petrah from sandys superstars!!!!. I haven't heard one good thing about this girl and for some crazy reason she thinks she deserves £250 an HOUR !!!

This one was a piss taking bitch at £50 for 30 minutes when I saw her at SS and pretty much sums up the sort of girl who thinks of herself as a princess, that said she can never unsuck my cock 

[VOLPONE]

No. I won't mention names. I can assure you it wasn't Angel

That's nice to hear.There was a 'header' on this forum fairly recently to the effect that the owner of a fluffy forum in the NW had ex SS girls working in flats he owned.

[NigelF]

If you have not seem them before then you really cant make any  judgement.

Yes you can, that's the whole point of this site, to make better informed judgements based on (mostly) reliable reviews from other punters. Of course everyone has different tastes and no two people will have the exact same experience but you absolutely can make a judgement, it just might not be totally accurate for you but that's still better than going off nothing.

They are all offering different prices which they think will work out best for them.

Yes but what they think will work out best and what actually does may well be two different things. Higher prices doesn't attract a better "quality" of punter, it just puts a lot of them (all kinds except timewasters) off. I've made my views on pricing quite clear above. If they do get enough business though then fair play to them.

[cueball]

If you have not seem them before then you really cant make any  judgement.

Ofcourse I can make a judgement, I can make a judgement on their prices and attitude to being newly independent and greedy.

[Devil may cry]

Ofcourse I can make a judgement, I can make a judgement on their prices and attitude to being newly independent and greedy.

But they are not all like that . Independent prices have always been dearer then parlour. Apart from the girl who charges 250 , I don't understand the "attitude". Their prices seem normal to me. I don't use independents often , I am a parlour guy.

[VOLPONE]

The market will ultimately dictate what the ex SS girls will charge away from the parlour environment. And these charges will vary from girl to girl based on looks ,age, region and quality/variety of service. As with any other hooker.

Those that pitch the rate too high will have dusty phones and need to drop their prices.
Some will pitch their rates just right for the money they wish to earn and the number of clients they wish to see.
Some will find that demand exceeds their ability to satisfy that demand ( ie too many interested punters relative to the hours they wish to work) and may need to raise their rates to 'choke off' some of that demand.

One thing's for sure : There will always be punters who say ''X is charging too much'' when what they really mean is ''I can't afford X''

And that's probably the same if you consider new cars,restaurant meals,foreign holidays or any other discretionary spending.

[cueball]

But they are not all like that . Independent prices have always been dearer then parlour. Apart from the girl who charges 250 , I don't understand the "attitude". Their prices seem normal to me. I don't use independents often , I am a parlour guy.

Well, I'll tell you where I'm at.

They're pricing themselves of the top end indie market, they have no feedback, no reviewing, no reputation and no experience BUT they are pricing themselves right at the top end.

As far I'm concerned, I see a over priced greedy new face that wants to jump on the bandwagon of more proven and reliable lasses.

Because they've had smoke blown up their arses all day, every day at sandy's and have their cunt struck fan boys that can see no wrong in em, they think the indie market punter is the same.

The prices don't seem normal to me.

That's the reason for the "attitude"

[Devil may cry]

£160 is top end

[cueball]

£160 is top end

Correct, well said 

[Roxie-Manchester]

The reason my aw has no feedback is because my old profile which did have feed back was hacked.  the aw profile I now have was set up by someone supposedly doing me a favour. Now I'm struggling to set an account up and have it verified using my id because I have used it on the previous account.

[Home Alone]

It's a lo-o-ong time since I was in Sandy's; so I don't know any of the girls who were working there when Mr. Plod got involved a couple of months ago.

However, I have seen a number of times, one of the former-Sandy's girls who left them after I stopped visiting the Parlour a few years ago.  She seems to have operated well enough at the £120 p.h. level.  If it's good enough for her, then . . . ?

Lest I thought of being a white knight, I've not seen her for the best part of a year and have no plans to return.

[NigelF]

£160 is top end

As Cueball said, it is. There are plenty of WG's who offer an excellent service below (sometimes well below) that price point, some of whom are also rather good looking and young. Of course I'm referring to commonly requested services not anything particularly specialist or niche, for which a higher price might be justified.

[cueball]

the aw profile I now have was set up by someone supposedly doing me a favour.

Were you not capable of setting an account up on AW by yourself then? 

This game is full of helpful experts though, all ready to help without gain or agenda 

[Roxie-Manchester]

Yes I am. But the person did it without informing me thinking he was doing me a favour and it's just made it more difficult for me to set a new one up

[cueball]

Yes I am. But the person did it without informing me

Eh? How did he do it without informing you, I presume you used your email address, your own ip and verified your old account with a verification pic????

Did you not realise he were setting up an AW account when he took your pic with you holding your passport/driving licence/etc etc....

[Roxie-Manchester]

The account isn't verified because he obviously doesn't have a photo of me holding the piece of paper up. He set an email up in my work name roxie. It's messed things up for me when It comes to my aw profile. And being banned from certain forums for no apparent reason just because they can. I was told not to sign up to this forum but my curiosity let me to do so. I was also advised not to post anything on here or I would get banned off here. Was also told that this forum is very negative towards girls who work. 

[OldAdmin]

That's nice to hear.There was a 'header' on this forum fairly recently to the effect that the owner of a fluffy forum in the NW had ex SS girls working in flats he owned.

The same person telling people how I am just an "anonymous online fake persona" while he such a transparent person with nothing to hide which the 50,000+ punters and prossies who've met him face-to-face can attest to, seems to want to 'hide under a rock' when it comes to the fact he makes money from prossies using his MANY apartments for their incalls or his agency pimping. He's not a punter and doesn't sell sex and will endlessly pontificate how he spends his life looking after the "welfare of punters and WGs" fighting for their cause with his campaigning and thus his neutrality and totally non-bias towards either punters or WGs with no financial interest in anyone, well we now know that's all bollocks, he's just another pimp profiting from prossies and punters, hiding behind this "guardian angel" persona and two "punter co-owners" to front his site, a site that is nothing more than a circle jerk of him and his fluffy clique wanking off around the prossies he is "mates" with and profits from them selling their vaginas.

[OldAdmin]

The account isn't verified because he obviously doesn't have a photo of me holding the piece of paper up. He set an email up in my work name roxie. It's messed things up for me when It comes to my aw profile. And being banned from certain forums for no apparent reason just because they can. I was told not to sign up to this forum but my curiosity let me to do so. I was also advised not to post anything on here or I would get banned off here. Was also told that this forum is very negative towards girls who work.

More like a site who's owner doesn't shout down and threaten any punter who dares question a prossie 
Unlike some, I don't profit from you or any other prossie, whether that is you paying for advertising on this site or you paying to use my properties for your incalls.

[cueball]

 I was also advised not to post anything on here or I would read truthful answers here. Was also told that this fiorum is very honest towards girls who work.

I've fixed your post roxie, that's ukp, not what you've heard or been advised to believe.

We can speak freely and express our honest opinions on here.

You'll learn far more about being a indie wg on here than you ever will by being manipulated by so called helpful experts that have no agenda or gain.

If you can't see that roxie, maybe you're not quite as savvy as you think you are.

[NigelF]

I've fixed your post roxie, that's ukp, not what you've heard or been advised to believe.

We can speak freely and express our honest opinions on here.

You'll learn far more about being a indie wg on here than you ever will by being manipulated by so called helpful experts that have no agenda or gain.

If you can't see that roxie, maybe you're not quite as savvy as you think you are.

This is true.

Although until she has a good look around around I can understand her having a negative view because so many other WG's and even punters will have encouraged it. I think one quick way of dispelling the "nasty" image is just simply looking at the review sections. Look at how many positives there are. It's simple stuff - provide a good service and the punters will be happy.

[McSwell]

That's nice to hear.There was a 'header' on this forum fairly recently to the effect that the owner of a fluffy forum in the NW had ex SS girls working in flats he owned.

Mm  you may have hit the nail on the head, the reason girls are having to charge so much maybe  due to the amount he is charging them for renting the apartments and any other "management" fees.

Basically it's an agency.

If the girls where really independent  they would have their own apartments and work from it as and when they wanted but recently some are advertising different days in Salford then some days in Prestwich.


Sorry I maybe stating the obvious but it's only just dawned on me. 


McSwell

[cueball]

Basically it's an agency.

Yes, agreed.

Shame too, pity the lasses didn't have the bottle to go truly indie

[OldAdmin]

The line separating being independent and working for agency / parlour can be different to everyone.

Personally when I've called or emailed a prossie and she's not the one responding to my questions about the booking (what services, etc.), then to me she's less independent and more working for that person. Obviously some may see it different.

If a police force gets less tolerant of parlours in their area then the parlour owners will simply change and tout their prossies as indies on AW working from apartments, etc.

[threechilliman]

It's a lo-o-ong time since I was in Sandy's; so I don't know any of the girls who were working there when Mr. Plod got involved a couple of months ago.

However, I have seen a number of times, one of the former-Sandy's girls who left them after I stopped visiting the Parlour a few years ago.  She seems to have operated well enough at the £120 p.h. level.  If it's good enough for her, then . . . ?

Lest I thought of being a white knight, I've not seen her for the best part of a year and have no plans to return.

Not sure why you'd see it as WK'ing. £120/hr is a very common rate in Manchester - plenty of decent punts to be had at that level.

tcm

[Roxie-Manchester]

I don't have a negative view on the forum. There are pros and cons in every situation in life just depends how you look at it. 

[mexicola]

The reason my aw has no feedback is because my old profile which did have feed back was hacked. 

I'm always amazed just how WGs start a new profile because their old one has been hacked.

[cueball]

If a police force gets less tolerant of parlours in their area then the parlour owners will simply change and tout their prossies as indies on AW working from apartments, etc.

Bloody hell, that makes perfect sense. It never occurred to me.

Basically, it could possibly be sandy's back but spread about a bit, more cloak & dagger and a hell of a lot more expensive.

I'll still be avoiding.

[Roxie-Manchester]

I'm always amazed just how WGs start a new profile because their old one has been hacked.

What would you suggest