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Offline mr man

Also I will add to all my above comments that most of my Romanian experiences have been around Colchester so maybe that's where all the good ones go :)

SirPhilipXX

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I can see  little reason to book Romanian girls when there are some outstanding English/Welsh girls available at £100ph or less (seeing one tonight).

Having said that though, I have seen only two Romanian WGs: one was the standard EE experience, passion-free no DFK etc., but the other one was a little cracker, so I guess you just can't generalise.


Offline smiths

Well until recently I always spent £120+ per hour on pretty much every girl I saw and nearly always had a good to very good experience. Recently due to being skint I spent about £80 per hour and there has been a difference in service. I think places that charge £80 tend to be very busy and it's literally one in one out. Don't get me wrong I still have a good time and there are some excellent girls out there for that price. Im saying price does have some impact on service but I accept there are definatley exceptions to the rule

Many places that charge £120 an hour or more will be back to back bookings as well in reality, plus as a punter i wouldnt know how busy a WG was anyway, she might say she only sees 3 punters a day as some WGs know it puts some punters off to say they see say 8 punters a day. Its not provable relying on the WGs word, i dont just blindly believe a total or virtual stranger WGs word myself.

Having punted at Soho Walk-Up many years ago that i didnt like then paying from £70-350 an hour at 121 punts and as little as £20 an hour with a minimum £60 for 3 hours at a party i have seen no correlation between what i paid and how good the WGs were.

Offline adindas

Well until recently I always spent £120+ per hour on pretty much every girl I saw and nearly always had a good to very good experience. Recently due to being skint I spent about £80 per hour and there has been a difference in service. I think places that charge £80 tend to be very busy and it's literally one in one out. Don't get me wrong I still have a good time and there are some excellent girls out there for that price. Im saying price does have some impact on service but I accept there are definatley exceptions to the rule

You will reduce the chance of getting crap punting by paying a premium price. No brainer ... It happens in daily life.

Not many people will say that Iphone 5s which cost  £550.00 is a not good phone. But is it vfm ???... I bet not many peolpe will say yes ....
If you want to spend sometimes to do some research you will find that the Newly Launched Motorola Moto G with Quad core processor which cost £99.00 (I got mine for £89.00) in Tesco is also a good and more importantly vfm phone.

Offline mr man

Right I've gone through my hotlist and found some Romanians I've had at least a good time with

External Link/Members Only   SexyMimi. I thought she looks adorable, she told me she's 19 which seemed correct. She's got amazing tits, couldn't leave them alone, she French kisses for no extra. What I really liked about her though was her extremely tight pussy. Tightest I've had and it never loosen up like they sometimes do. Although going by reviews on here she seems to be busier now and keeps fidgeting with her phone during meets but she was great when I saw her.

External Link/Members Only   Isabella. Now the area is run down and the house she works in is busy and not the tidiest but for a cheap punt she's worth it. English isn't the best but she snogged my face off and hugged me tight while she rode me. I was having trouble cumming a second time and so she hugged, kissed and pounded away on top of me harder and harder until we got there in the end. Like I say good for a cheapy.

External Link/Members Only   Sophie. . .Well ok I admit I've not got around to seeing her yet but can 746 positive feedbacks be wrong????

External Link/Members Only  Petite Brunette teen Tina.. . . She works at the same place as SexyMimi above. Very attractive and French kisses at no extra cost but apart from that everything else was just ok.

External Link/Members Only   Mentioned in one of my other posts earlier but thought I'd put her here again. Excellent all round service. Free DFK but OWO is £20. Away at the moment tho.

There was also Alycia in the N9 area (Cambridge road) but she went back home for xmas and her profile hasn't come back up yet. She was very passionate, snogged my face off before any money had even been exchanged. She really tries hard to offer a GFE going on PSE and was very chatty through out.

All of these are Romanian and provided me with at least a "okay" experience and a couple of excellent punts. .  far from the scanky whores people here seem to think they all Romanians are.

Offline smiths

You will reduce the chance of getting crap punting by paying a premium price. No brainer ... It happens in daily life.

Not many people will say that Iphone 5s which cost  £550.00 is a not good phone. But is it vfm ???... I bet not many peolpe will say yes ....
If you want to spend sometimes to do some research you will find that the Newly Launched Motorola Moto G with Quad core processor which cost £99.00 (I got mine for £89.00) in Tesco is also a good and more importantly vfm phone.

Whereas i dont correlate buying an inaminate object that hasnt its own unique individual brain with punting with WGs that do.

Offline smiths

Right I've gone through my hotlist and found some Romanians I've had at least a good time with

External Link/Members Only   SexyMimi. I thought she looks adorable, she told me she's 19 which seemed correct. She's got amazing tits, couldn't leave them alone, she French kisses for no extra. What I really liked about her though was her extremely tight pussy. Tightest I've had and it never loosen up like they sometimes do. Although going by reviews on here she seems to be busier now and keeps fidgeting with her phone during meets but she was great when I saw her.

External Link/Members Only   Isabella. Now the area is run down and the house she works in is busy and not the tidiest but for a cheap punt she's worth it. English isn't the best but she snogged my face off and hugged me tight while she rode me. I was having trouble cumming a second time and so she hugged, kissed and pounded away on top of me harder and harder until we got there in the end. Like I say good for a cheapy.

External Link/Members Only   Sophie. . .Well ok I admit I've not got around to seeing her yet but can 746 positive feedbacks be wrong????

External Link/Members Only  Petite Brunette teen Tina.. . . She works at the same place as SexyMimi above. Very attractive and French kisses at no extra cost but apart from that everything else was just ok.

External Link/Members Only   Mentioned in one of my other posts earlier but thought I'd put her here again. Excellent all round service. Free DFK but OWO is £20. Away at the moment tho.

There was also Alycia in the N9 area (Cambridge road) but she went back home for xmas and her profile hasn't come back up yet. She was very passionate, snogged my face off before any money had even been exchanged. She really tries hard to offer a GFE going on PSE and was very chatty through out.

All of these are Romanian and provided me with at least a "okay" experience and a couple of excellent punts. .  far from the scanky whores people here seem to think they all Romanians are.

Thats some on here, as i posted i go on the individual WG myself knowing they are all unique individuals. In addition many EE WGs lie about where they come from anyway as i know from years of punting with them. First punt they might say there are from Latvia but the second time its say Lithuania, i wouldnt know the difference. Clearly Romanians have a bad rep in this country as to some it equals Gypsies and Gypsies arent popular here with many plus the worry about them flooding in of course.

Offline mr man

Thats some on here, as i posted i go on the individual WG myself knowing they are all unique individuals. In addition many EE WGs lie about where they come from anyway as i know from years of punting with them. First punt they might say there are from Latvia but the second time its say Lithuania, i wouldnt know the difference. Clearly Romanians have a bad rep in this country as to some it equals Gypsies and Gypsies arent popular here with many plus the worry about them flooding in of course.

That Alycia I mentioned who unfortunately doesn't have an active profile at the moment was a funny one. She was talking about the soon to be influx of Romanians ( I saw her late Nov) and was asking my opinion etc. Even she seemed a bit worried about it lol. She said most would probably ok but mentioned something about gypsies are the ones to watch out for. I think once her profile is back up she'll be one to go to see to get advice on other Romanians. She was very straight talking not afraid to speak her mind. . and not afraid to take the piss out of me. I reciprocated of course  :D  I thought she was great.

Offline mr man

I can see  little reason to book Romanian girls when there are some outstanding English/Welsh girls available at £100ph or less (seeing one tonight).

Having said that though, I have seen only two Romanian WGs: one was the standard EE experience, passion-free no DFK etc., but the other one was a little cracker, so I guess you just can't generalise.

In London area?? Love the welsh accent. Got any links?

Offline adindas

In London area?? Love the welsh accent. Got any links?

If you happen to travel to Northwest then Manchester and Preston/Lancashire where you could meet a lot good looking young English WGs  for £100 an hour .... You could try for instance, Sandy superstar, Angel, Preston VIP ...

Offline Jimmyredcab

Appear pimped is your opinion of course, i wouldnt know unless they tell me, and many WGs are pimped, you have punted at HOD, those WGs are pimped.

There is a huge difference between being pimped at £60 an hour and £130 an hour ------------ Mr Divine does not seem to struggle to find willing girls.    :hi:

SirPhilipXX

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In London area?? Love the welsh accent. Got any links?

Several Welsh WGs regularly tour London, the problem is that when they do they tend to jack up their prices. But then hotels are so much more expensive in London.

It so happens that the girl I saw again yesterday, Scarlette, is Bristol based and has a slightly posh English accent, which I love!

I believe that she may be willing to visit London if she gets a couple of requests.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Offline smiths

There is a huge difference between being pimped at £60 an hour and £130 an hour ------------ Mr Divine does not seem to struggle to find willing girls.    :hi:

But if the WG is doing it out of free will and not being forced thats completely her business as i see it. She has agreed to such an arrangement and is an adult so up to her. :hi:

Offline Jerboa

You will reduce the chance of getting crap punting by paying a premium price. No brainer ... It happens in daily life.

Not many people will say that Iphone 5s which cost  £550.00 is a not good phone. But is it vfm ???... I bet not many peolpe will say yes ....
If you want to spend sometimes to do some research you will find that the Newly Launched Motorola Moto G with Quad core processor which cost £99.00 (I got mine for £89.00) in Tesco is also a good and more importantly vfm phone.

Rubbish, how much you pay for a punt has no correlation on experience, It's down to the escort.

Offline smiths

Rubbish, how much you pay for a punt has no correlation on experience, It's down to the escort.

Absolutely, i am amazed some disagree with this, but such is life. :thumbsup:

Offline Steve2

Maybe they will live and learn. But I doubt it. Thankfully

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Offline Jerboa

Exactly, a Aston Martin drives better than a Fiat Uno, but don't mean a so called high class courtesan rides better than Anna the EE 60 quid a hour girl.

Offline jesus_jones

Sadly as a thread i did a while back showed some punters arent bothered by Bait and Switch, they will punt on regardless. According to their logic as its unlikely the practice will stop anytime soon what they do wont have any effect. This is the attitude some punters have.

You gotta let it go, Smiths. Yes, you did a thread on the topic and spammed several threads about it because you didn't like the fact most punters disagreed with you. I believe it even resulted in a short sabbatical for you.

Most of us aren't idiots, we are just pragmatic. We're dealing with the paid sex industry here, not shopping in an established retailer. Of course bait and switch can always happen, that doesn't mean we punt regardless, it means we think open-mindedly- if the switch is hot and says she will do the services you want, most would be happy to stay. I have had a few great punts in this situation, where ive been offered the flatmate of the girl im meant to be punting. The idea that this encourages more B+S is probably nonsense, as those of us posting here are a small fraction of the total punting population, so even if every member here didn't put up with the practice, there are still thousands of guys that will.

RE: Romanians- there have been several good reviews for Romanian WG's. Erica was one, but as her service declined a few members just ignorantly concluded she's a 'typical Romanian', where in reality she's probably burnt-out, just like any WG of any nationality could be.

Offline smiths

You gotta let it go, Smiths. Yes, you did a thread on the topic and spammed several threads about it because you didn't like the fact most punters disagreed with you. I believe it even resulted in a short sabbatical for you.

Most of us aren't idiots, we are just pragmatic. We're dealing with the paid sex industry here, not shopping in an established retailer. Of course bait and switch can always happen, that doesn't mean we punt regardless, it means we think open-mindedly- if the switch is hot and says she will do the services you want, most would be happy to stay. I have had a few great punts in this situation, where ive been offered the flatmate of the girl im meant to be punting. The idea that this encourages more B+S is probably nonsense, as those of us posting here are a small fraction of the total punting population, so even if every member here didn't put up with the practice, there are still thousands of guys that will.

RE: Romanians- there have been several good reviews for Romanian WG's. Erica was one, but as her service declined a few members just ignorantly concluded she's a 'typical Romanian', where in reality she's probably burnt-out, just like any WG of any nationality could be.

No it didnt lead to a sabbatical no idea where you get that from. And as ever i will post on this issue as suits me. Do most posters think B&S is anything other than a bad thing, only a small number posted on my thread, since i have noticed more post about this dreadful practice. Punters will decide for themselves of course, my interest lays in helping newbies be aware of this practice, if you dont like that which is your business its a case of bad luck. IMO you have contributed a good amount since we last exchanged replies, i have no problem with you, i do B&S though so i wont ever let it go as you put it.

SirPhilipXX

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Rubbish, how much you pay for a punt has no correlation on experience, It's down to the escort.

I think British WGs believe they can charge more than Romanian and other EE girls because they know that many punters will pay more to see an English or Welsh girl, even when they suspect that the service provided may not be that different.

Another reason: on the rare occasions when I have paid more than £140 per hour to a British WG and I have asked her why her rates are so high (given the fact that the cheaper EE competition is hotting up so rapidly) I usually get this response:
"I only wish to see well off, upmarket punters, and if I keep my rates high I discourage cheapskates and timewasters" - or words to that effect.

The third reason for a high hourly rate might be that the WG is misguided enough to belong to an 'agency' where the pimp gets a cut of £40 to £50 out of her hourly rate. In my experience most such girls rapidly see the light and go independent.


Offline Jimmyredcab

Rubbish, how much you pay for a punt has no correlation on experience, It's down to the escort.

Yes, you are correct ---------------------- but punters who think they will get a GFE for £60 an hour are living in a dream world.  :hi:

Offline Steve2

With the greatest respect Jimbo, you are talking bollocks again

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Offline smiths

With the greatest respect Jimbo, you are talking bollocks again

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Yep, total and complete bollocks, as you and other punters with a clue know it all depends on the individual WG. I have had a good GFE from WGs at £70 an hour and many times at £80-90 an hour and you have at £60 an hour as have some others on here, some like you have also posted about it. More than enough to show it depends on the WG not what she charges.

In reality there are good and bad WGs at all price ranges. According to Jim, all WGs under £100 an hour are skanks, as was pointed out to him by me and others, Hot Katalina who was £80 an hour isnt a skank, as arent many others. ;)

Offline Tailpipe

Yep, total and complete bollocks, as you and other punters with a clue know it all depends on the individual WG. I have had a good GFE from WGs at £70 an hour and many times at £80-90 an hour and you have at £60 an hour as have some others on here, some like you have also posted about it. More than enough to show it depends on the WG not what she charges.

In reality there are good and bad WGs at all price ranges. According to Jim, all WGs under £100 an hour are skanks, as was pointed out to him by me and others, Hot Katalina who was £80 an hour isnt a skank, as arent many others. ;)

Smiths do you think that cheap WGs see more punters , ie production style service .
If I see 15 min on a profile it tends to put me off as to me it says she just sees to many
Punters .

I like to see things like 2 hours min on a profile as I believe they are more tuned to providing
A GF experience and not interested in short punts as they need to be warmed up a bit .

Or am I as usually been lead by the dark side (fluffy) . I would be interested in you view .

broksonic

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I would never see any romanian or any other EE.  I believe these girls are not doing at their free will at all.

Offline Steve2

I would never see any romanian or any other EE.  I believe these girls are not doing at their free will at all.

Total bollocks IMHO

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James999

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Total bollocks IMHO

Steve is correct, however there does appear to be an issue with the ROmanians etc, I believe they are her of there own free will, quite simply becuase ROmania is such a shit hole and so  poor, as such the lure of £100 a day or whatever entices them here.

However I suspect most are brought here by Pimps and controlled by them, otherwise how could a Romanain girl who doesn't speak English arrange an AW profile, get it verified and arrange somewhere to work from, even English pro$$ies have trouble with that  :wacko:

Offline CBPaul

Total bollocks IMHO

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Totally agree.

I've seen many EE girls, had some fantastic punts and have no reason to believe they are prossies against their will. As someone else pointed out, they must have some assistance in getting over here, setting up a profile, touring around etc etc but that doesn't mean they aren't choosing to do it. Look carefully and you can spot the groups some of them are in and not necessarily from the same flat and not necessarily heavily organised. Personally I prefer Polish over Romanian and am very wary of Romanian profiles but that is because my punting area is a dumping ground for scam profiles. If a Romanian WG came with a recommendation then I would certainly consider. No doubt some are here against their will but not all.

As far as B&S is concerned I have experienced it, mostly I walk away but occasionally I've stay and punted when the switch was appealing. I would guess that the majority don't give a shit about repeat business, there are plenty of punters who just look at the pictures, get horny and rush off only to be disappointed that the 19 year old babe doesn't exist - not for banging in a shitty flat in this country anyway. I guess they also don't learn and do the same all over again so it perpetuates.

Offline hockogrockle

There was a Romanian who worked in a parlour in Bristol for about three years, and only just seems to have left. A big jolly mum, who spoke excellent English. A decent punt: I never quite worked out why she was here. I think she may have had an abusive husband in her home country. How she ended up in Bristol, God knows. Perhaps she's now got herself a "proper job". (No disrespect to prostitution as a career choice, of course.)

Offline smiths

Smiths do you think that cheap WGs see more punters , ie production style service .
If I see 15 min on a profile it tends to put me off as to me it says she just sees to many
Punters .

I like to see things like 2 hours min on a profile as I believe they are more tuned to providing
A GF experience and not interested in short punts as they need to be warmed up a bit .

Or am I as usually been lead by the dark side (fluffy) . I would be interested in you view .

Yes more than likely they punt with as many punters per day as they can just like many Parlour and Agency WGs, all this they only punt with 1 or 2 punters a day stuff is totally reliant on the punter taking their word for it of cpurse. I imagine there are some WGs like that, Shanelle of St Albans springs to my mind, i do believe she punts with up to 3 punters a day only but no more as she can be booked well ahead as i know.

Punting isnt for the squeamish as i always say, if WGs fucking and sucking other guys before them is a problem its not the pastime for them in my view. Many things a WG says are reliant on you taking her word for it, she might or might not be telling you the truth, BUT a smart WG will know being honest and saying she punts with loads of punters a day will put some punters off so some will lie so as to attract as many punters to them as they can. ;)

Offline Jimmyredcab

Steve is correct, however there does appear to be an issue with the ROmanians etc, I believe they are her of there own free will, quite simply becuase ROmania is such a shit hole and so  poor, as such the lure of £100 a day or whatever entices them here.

Steve2 is NOT correct.     :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Anyone who saw benefits street on TV last night saw 14 big Romanian men terrified of their "boss".

I am now 500% certain that most of the Romanian girls in this country are controlled by thugs who take the majority of their earnings, that explains why so many give a terrible service and push for "extras".

How on earth could a Romanian girl with limited English come here with little money, set up a profile on Adultwork, rent a flat with no deposit or references and employ a maid.

Some punters look no further than getting a low rate ---------- or as they say, VFM.    :thumbsdown:

James999

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Steve2 is NOT correct.   

The point in question was of their own free will, I believe some of them have come here of their own free will, with wages so low in Romania the UK must be very appealing to them,

The Thugs seem to be a way of life for the EE's, the girls want to be pro$$ies and the men want to be Gangsters, perhaps they regard the gangsters as a sort of "Tax"

Offline Jimmyredcab

The point in question was of their own free will, I believe some of them have come here of their own free will, with wages so low in Romania the UK must be very appealing to them,

The Thugs seem to be a way of life for the EE's, the girls want to be pro$$ies and the men want to be Gangsters, perhaps they regard the gangsters as a sort of "Tax"

Yes, but those 14 Romanian men came here of their own free will on the promise of £40 a day but were forced to work long hours and never got paid.    :thumbsdown:

James999

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Yes, but those 14 Romanian men came here of their own free will on the promise of £40 a day but were forced to work long hours and never got paid.    :thumbsdown:

Did you want to fuck any of them then ?

As otherwise it's nto really relevant, apart from proving my point that some come of their own free will, if they are then exploited by a "boss" that's another matter  :hi:
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 12:16:03 pm by James999 »

Offline Jimmyredcab

Did you want to fuck any of them then ?

As otherwise it's nto really relevant, apart from proving my point that some come of their own free will, if they are then exploited by a "boss" that's another matter  :hi:

Of course it's relevant.

The point being that the goalposts were moved once they arrived here.

If the thugs will do that to 14 grown men they will certainly do it to vulnerable young girls.    :thumbsdown:


James999

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The point being that the goalposts were moved once they arrived here.

Exactly Jimmy, thus they travelled here of their own free will, may have got pissed off when they arrived and found out all was not as they hoped but that doesn't change the fact they chose to come here  :hi:

Londondave

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Exactly Jimmy, thus they travelled here of their own free will, may have got pissed off when they arrived and found out all was not as they hoped but that doesn't change the fact they chose to come here  :hi:

Definitely poses the question whether they want to remain here and work as WGs  under the conditions now being imposed on them though ,  doesn't it .

Offline Tailpipe

Yes more than likely they punt with as many punters per day as they can just like many Parlour and Agency WGs, all this they only punt with 1 or 2 punters a day stuff is totally reliant on the punter taking their word for it of cpurse. I imagine there are some WGs like that, Shanelle of St Albans springs to my mind, i do believe she punts with up to 3 punters a day only but no more as she can be booked well ahead as i know.

Punting isnt for the squeamish as i always say, if WGs fucking and sucking other guys before them is a problem its not the pastime for them in my view. Many things a WG says are reliant on you taking her word for it, she might or might not be telling you the truth, BUT a smart WG will know being honest and saying she punts with loads of punters a day will put some punters off so some will lie so as to attract as many punters to them as they can. ;)

The voice of balance and reason as always  :drinks: Suspect I was searching for something that does not exist.

Offline mr man

Just adding to my comments on page 8 or 9.
Alycia who I found to be very passionate Romanian and gvfm has returned from her holiday and her profile is back up
External Link/Members Only

Will Make a full review when I figure out how to lol
 

Offline punk

Total bollocks IMHO

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sorry steve2 is right,the other reply is crap,some are pimped,but a lot are not.for what its worth.

Offline punk

Exactly Jimmy, thus they travelled here of their own free will, may have got pissed off when they arrived and found out all was not as they hoped but that doesn't change the fact they chose to come here  :hi:

and stayed here,they did not say fuck this i'm off home. :hi:

Offline punk

The voice of balance and reason as always  :drinks: Suspect I was searching for something that does not exist.

does exist,i do believe some WG'S punt with a few customers.

Offline smiths

sorry steve2 is right,the other reply is crap,some are pimped,but a lot are not.for what its worth.

Yep, its a massive sweeping generalisation to say EE WGs are in the same boat in my view. There is also a big difference between being pimped and being forced, many WGs are pimped of their own free will, all those that work at Parlours, Agencies and Parties are being pimped, i know as fact some of those i have spoken to agreed to give the pimp a set cut in exchange for them getting her her punters and advertising her on their site, and with Parlours and Parties always providing the WGs premises.

I imagine sadly there are some women who are forced against their will to be WGs, no doubt there are also many that arent. Some on here follow their own agenda but the evidence by convictions doesnt back up that women being trafficked for sex and/or being forced is a big problem. Hearsay isnt proof of course. we talk about it on here so no doubt the police know all about it yet there hasnt as yet been very many arrests that anywhere near correlate to the problem some on here say it is. Why not if its such a big problem. Hardly rocket science for the police to put a suspected premises under survellience and see if a pimp turns up or follow a WG to see where she goes IF they think trafficking and/or force is being used.

The fact is ANY WG could be being coerced including a Brit for all i would know. I use my best judgement as thats the best i have got. So i havent knowingly punted with such a WG, who knows if i have unknowingly, i hope not as i dont want to punt with such women, i only want to punt with WGs who are WGs of their own free choice.

I daresay sadly there are women being forced to be WGs, how widespread that is isnt known to me or others on here, the best we have is hearsay and guesses plus a small amount of convictions in comparison to the number of foreign WGs working here.

It really isnt difficult to understand that a foreign WG might not have the money to rent her own premises here so pays a pimp of her own free will for a flat to work out of and they also run her profile, the lie is the WG is an Indie. From my observations sometimes the pimp is another WG who rents them a room, branching out from just being a WG. Once some have the money they might rent their own premises but some might choose to stick to the original deal as they come and go a lot and dont see it worth their while renting their own place. Now apart from the dishonesty of them advertising as Indies which is wrong the crucial point for me is do i think they are being forced, i havent seen any obvious evidence of it, does that mean at least some arent, no, it means i use my best judgement as best i can as thats the best i have.

Some women from Thailand come over here on voluntary bonds and these bonds are many times more than the cost of getting them here. They have to pay the bond back to their trafficker/s or associate/s. Some of these WGs work for Agencies who charge higher rates than cheap EE WGs so its not just cheap EE WGs who may have been trafficked, some of these women on bonds might not have many choices in life from what i have heard until they pay the bond off.

Questions of trafficking and/or being forced should in my opinion be taken on a case by case basis, its a subject that cant be generalised down to cost or it being WGs from one particular country. If a punter is that worried he can always only punt with Brits of course, that Brit though as i pointed out above could be being coerced by say her partner or pimp to be a WG.

The fact is a WG from many countries can earn in comparison to what she could at home great money and unless evidence of convictions proves a lot have been trafficked and/or forced i believe most come here voluntarily to earn that good money. I have known loads of EE WGs who have come here charging a low rate, a few months later once established they put the rate up.

Offline punk

Yep, its a massive sweeping generalisation to say EE WGs are in the same boat in my view. There is also a big difference between being pimped and being forced, many WGs are pimped of their own free will, all those that work at Parlours, Agencies and Parties are being pimped, i know as fact some of those i have spoken to agreed to give the pimp a set cut in exchange for them getting her her punters and advertising her on their site, and with Parlours and Parties always providing the WGs premises.

I imagine sadly there are some women who are forced against their will to be WGs, no doubt there are also many that arent. Some on here follow their own agenda but the evidence by convictions doesnt back up that women being trafficked for sex and/or being forced is a big problem. Hearsay isnt proof of course. we talk about it on here so no doubt the police know all about it yet there hasnt as yet been very many arrests that anywhere near correlate to the problem some on here say it is. Why not if its such a big problem. Hardly rocket science for the police to put a suspected premises under survellience and see if a pimp turns up or follow a WG to see where she goes IF they think trafficking and/or force is being used.

The fact is ANY WG could be being coerced including a Brit for all i would know. I use my best judgement as thats the best i have got. So i havent knowingly punted with such a WG, who knows if i have unknowingly, i hope not as i dont want to punt with such women, i only want to punt with WGs who are WGs of their own free choice.

I daresay sadly there are women being forced to be WGs, how widespread that is isnt known to me or others on here, the best we have is hearsay and guesses plus a small amount of convictions in comparison to the number of foreign WGs working here.

It really isnt difficult to understand that a foreign WG might not have the money to rent her own premises here so pays a pimp of her own free will for a flat to work out of and they also run her profile, the lie is the WG is an Indie. From my observations sometimes the pimp is another WG who rents them a room, branching out from just being a WG. Once some have the money they might rent their own premises but some might choose to stick to the original deal as they come and go a lot and dont see it worth their while renting their own place. Now apart from the dishonesty of them advertising as Indies which is wrong the crucial point for me is do i think they are being forced, i havent seen any obvious evidence of it, does that mean at least some arent, no, it means i use my best judgement as best i can as thats the best i have.

Some women from Thailand come over here on voluntary bonds and these bonds are many times more than the cost of getting them here. They have to pay the bond back to their trafficker/s or associate/s. Some of these WGs work for Agencies who charge higher rates than cheap EE WGs so its not just cheap EE WGs who may have been trafficked, some of these women on bonds might not have many choices in life from what i have heard until they pay the bond off.

Questions of trafficking and/or being forced should in my opinion be taken on a case by case basis, its a subject that cant be generalised down to cost or it being WGs from one particular country. If a punter is that worried he can always only punt with Brits of course, that Brit though as i pointed out above could be being coerced by say her partner or pimp to be a WG.

The fact is a WG from many countries can earn in comparison to what she could at home great money and unless evidence of convictions proves a lot have been trafficked and/or forced i believe most come here voluntarily to earn that good money. I have known loads of EE WGs who have come here charging a low rate, a few months later once established they put the rate up.

Agree with the above, some EE'S have been really clever, let the pimp do the setting up, payed their due's than once they have been established and know whats what,have took control of their profile and gone their own way.on another point Some just see ££££ than find they hate the job and blame every one else.there are some who do face violence and i am not talking about the punters.

Offline smiths

Agree with the above, some EE'S have been really clever, let the pimp do the setting up, payed their due's than once they have been established and know whats what,have took control of their profile and gone their own way.on another point Some just see ££££ than find they hate the job and blame every one else.there are some who do face violence and i am not talking about the punters.

Indeed, the point is it depends on the WG, its not all such WGs as some on here think with their blinkered thinking and own agendas. Show me proof by convictions of many of these nasty evil scumbags that are forcing loads of women to be WGs and i will believe it. And those that think its many can always stick to Brits as i said, doesnt mean they arent being coerced/forced by their partners/pimps though. :hi:

vorian

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Indeed, the point is it depends on the WG, its not all such WGs as some on here think with their blinkered thinking and own agendas. Show me proof by convictions of many of these nasty evil scumbags that are forcing loads of women to be WGs and i will believe it. And those that think its many can always stick to Brits as i said, doesnt mean they arent being coerced/forced by their partners/pimps though. :hi:

Agreed, punting by it's nature mean you will never know anything for sure all you can do is try to play the game as best you can using what information is available.

Offline punk

Indeed, the point is it depends on the WG, its not all such WGs as some on here think with their blinkered thinking and own agendas. Show me proof by convictions of many of these nasty evil scumbags that are forcing loads of women to be WGs and i will believe it. And those that think its many can always stick to Brits as i said, doesnt mean they arent being coerced/forced by their partners/pimps though. :hi:

girls that are £60 and those that are £200 can be pimped,some brits included.why its always stated that £ lower are and ones that are £££ are not is i think to make the punter feel better.

vorian

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girls that are £60 and those that are £200 can be pimped,some brits included.why its always stated that £ lower are and ones that are £££ are not is i think to make the punter feel better.

The only thing a price tells you, is that's the price, doesn't guarantee anything at all.

Offline punk

The only thing a price tells you, is that's the price, doesn't guarantee anything at all.

exactly otherwise we all be seeing £200+ girls.

vorian

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exactly otherwise we all be seeing £200+ girls.

Or we would all be seeing £60 girls works both ways.