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Author Topic: A Yank in London  (Read 1799 times)

Offline mkb42

Hello! New member from the US here with a bunch of questions. Will be in London starting next weekend on business for a couple weeks and looking to try out the local "punting" scene and was hoping to get some advice or suggestions from those familiar. Been reading through the forums and reviews on this site... have been very helpful so far! Coming from the across the ocean it looks like a completely different experience.

- Over here incalls are best avoided as those are most likely to be stings by law enforcement... heavy presence on backpage.com, craigslist, usasexguide, etc, or set-ups for robbery.
- Incalls take place in cheap apartments or motels
- Agency websites are guaranteed to be heavily photoshopped...
- and are almost always bait-and-switch jobs.
With agencies, a lot of the ladies actually leave their mobile on an active call to the driver waiting out in the parking lot so he can be quick to respond should a bad situation arise.  The providers initially didn't mention it but I noticed it with two different agency girls, different cities, and when I asked was told that.
You learn to quickly distrust any listings with professional looking photos, as those tend to be scams, and lean heavily on profiles with lots of amateur selfies. You also learn to do a lot of google image searching and phone number lookups to weed out additional scammers. My experience is a true success rate of around 50% and a strong preference of outcall v. incall.. and I consider myself as doing well with that.

From what I've been reading on here, incalls seem to be the norm in London? Do hotels have any regulations, such as having the lady register at the front desk, for an outcall? Do service providers have to be formally licensed? Do they have to have regular medical checkups, and how often if so? Any tips, advice, suggestions from the veterans around here to a smooth experience? Is tipping expected? (it is in the US, usually upfront before the session even starts(!)... and not just a measly 10-15% to get OWO, but more like 30 or 40% of the advertised total rate)

Thanks guys!

Offline mkb42

Not 5 minute after posting I found the link to the "New to Punting" wiki below! That seems to answer a lot!!

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Give us some intel on punting in the US [to evidence some cred] & you might get some responses

The wiki is a good place to start.
After that, use the search on AW to filter on what you are after, get a list of potentials, then search their profile no. on here.

Do hotels have any regulations, such as having the lady register at the front desk, for an outcall?
No, London hotels are busy meeting places, anyone can walk in and make their way to a room unnoticed, although some need a room card for the lift, so bear that in mind.

Do service providers have to be formally licensed? Do they have to have regular medical checkups, and how often if so?
No and no
Is tipping expected? (it is in the US, usually upfront before the session even starts(!)... and not just a measly 10-15% to get OWO, but more like 30 or 40% of the advertised total rate)!
NO! Pay upfront after agreeing services but tipping is not expected before or afterwards


Offline LL

Is tipping expected? (it is in the US, usually upfront before the session even starts(!)... and not just a measly 10-15% to get OWO, but more like 30 or 40% of the advertised total rate)
Crazy yanks and your tipping culture :lol:. Please do us all a favour and leave that one at home. How can there be a need for a service charge to be added to a service charge? :wackogirl:
I say leave the custom at home since I don't want girls to come to expect it from everyone (in the same way that our restaurants have adopted this custom and now expect it).

The interesting part in your posting is your insight into punting in America so thank you for that (it sounds shit!).

I hope you now have all the answers you needed (feel free to ask further questions not already answered in the wiki). Please leave reviews for any girls you see.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 05:49:24 AM by LL »

The main difference it appears between the USA and the UK is that in the UK punting is LEGAL. So there is none of the hassle (generally) about being busted by cops. (a few issues in the UK, I guess, with kerb crawling, brothels etc though). But on the whole, one does not have to worry about getting busted. That makes the whole experience much less stressful. There is always the risk of getting ripped off by a girl (B&S, not providing service as advertised etc) or the remote chance of being robbed - but careful selection of positively reviewed girls should avoid all that. Therefore, as has been stated, your main focus should be on researching the type of girl you want to see, having a Plan A and a Plan B (at least initially) and getting stuck in right away. I am sure you will have a great time and let us all know how you got on.

Offline mrhappypants

Give us some intel on punting in the US [to evidence some cred] & you might get some responses

+1  We had an identical query a few months back with little positive contribution from the OP.  We are plagued by parasites on this board.  Invest in the community here FIRST but writing description of punting in your location and you will get a more positive response.

Offline Hobbit

I'm really sick of these Yanks that keep coming on this board asking questions before doing any research. Like someone has already said, the main difference here compared to the US is that it is legal here and not there. Also, we do not tip and please don't. These girls get paid more than enough and we certainly don't want some American oil tycoon tipping girls which will only make them hike their prices up rather than their skirts.

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Hence my post above.  "give & get !"

I'm really sick of these Yanks that keep coming on this board asking questions before doing any research.

I like to give them the tip.  Along with the shaft 0.1secs later  :lol:

Also, we do not tip

Offline Hertsgent

Welcome to London - the UK is not the best place to punt, but relative to the USA (which is totally shit for punting for all the reasons you highlight - always amused me the sexual repression of the US society!).

Therefore, fill your boots - incalls by far the best and you should take in a Soho walk up while you are here for sure  :hi:

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Therefore, fill your boots - incalls by far the best and you should take in a Soho walk up while you are here for sure  :hi:
This place is just south of the river in central Londinium http://chariots.co.uk/vauxhall/    :lol:

Offline iwtc

California here - I'm in the same boat as you - make several trips to the UK every year.  It's a good thing I don't live there because I would indulge all the time.

I've mostly done incalls but would have no hesitation doing outcalls either.  Don't tip. 


« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 05:25:41 PM by iwtc »

I'm really sick of these Yanks that keep coming on this board asking questions before doing any research. Like someone has already said, the main difference here compared to the US is that it is legal here and not there. Also, we do not tip and please don't. These girls get paid more than enough and we certainly don't want some American oil tycoon tipping girls which will only make them hike their prices up rather than their skirts.
In fairness to the guy he did say he'd discovered the punting wiki five minutes after posting. That's better than a lot of other dickheads.

Offline mkb42

Thanks for the comments, feedback suggestions, PMs, etc! I can appreciate the viewpoints expressed. I am happy to share my US experiences. Actually, the best experience I've had to date was in Mississauga (next to Toronto, CA) in 2012 with an agency (Torontopassions) and a girl by the name of "Joey". She said she was a teacher from Vermont in the US and spent summers in Canada legally supplementing her salary. First punt ever, good memories. Punting legal there in CA of course.  It seems the less restrictions/legal issues, the better the punting experiences.

When I got started back in 2012 most agencies only listed for services simply just "GFE" or "PSE".  PSE generally meant what we in the US call BBBJ... which you Brits call OWO, along with things like COB, CIF, a chance of CIM but always an extra fee. My experience, if an agency listed 20 girls, 2 or 3 might offer PSE. By listing only GFE or PSE it leaves all other services vague and protects the agency somewhat from being legally outside the law.  Of course that just means all services have to be negotiated once the provider showed up at the hotel room as no one, agencies or independents, will discuss any detail over the phone... again due to the legalities and potential for wiretapping by LEO.  The agency/independent girl has to assume I'm a LEO.  So this creates a situation where the girl shows up and you then have to negotiate services along with "tips" above and beyond the "appearance fee". Quite insane.  Girls do not like outcalls to hotel rooms with a door to an adjoining room as that creates a possibility I could be LEO running a sting for them. I've done one outcall in such a room setup and it happened the person in the next door room was using the deadbolt to hang his ironing on.  Every time he would add a hanger you could hear the rattle in my room and the girl would reflectively look up to make sure the door wasn't about to be flung open.

But at the same time... that's the only game in town. Los Angeles, Houston, NYC, Cincinnati, the same business model all over. Going by what I've seen listed on Adultwork and some London agencies and the fine reviews here I might end up paying $5-600 for similar service as a 1/2hr incall which includes a nice outfit + OWO, rotate through a couple positions.

By far the best looking girls are in LA.  Lots of young women trying to get into film need work so they can afford to run around to casting calls during the weekdays. And you'll find a lot..almost without exception in my experience, that got their start in the strip clubs out there or in Las Vegas and then "had a friend" who got them into escorting.  That helps weed out those that don't really have the looks.

Absolutely no FK/DFK, rimming or fingering.  None. By agency girls or independents.

Independents (booked through a site like backpages, usasexguide, craigslist) will likely ask you to text a pic of your junk to prove you're not LEO under the misguided assumption it is illegal for them to do so. And of course if it turns out the incall is actually a sting op, if you do follow through by sending the pic you have now exposed yourself to prosecution even if you end up not showing up as courts take the view have now expressed intent. I've never done an incall. Every attempt has had flags all over it. I would't even consider it in the US now unless through an agency and even they will assume you want outcall by default.  No discount for an incall.

Generally a 1 hr appointment is the shortest available.  Independents who do incall will advertise a shorter app but due to the legal issues I've never tried - and have no desire to find out. A 1hr appointment means you get to blow your load once. If you want to have a 2nd round, you need to extend an hour... even if it only took 15 minutes to hit the mark the 1st time. I had to edit my post to add this in... but if you go to any of the US-focused sites like the ones mentioned earlier, the whole 2nd round in a standard 1 hr booking is a mythical fable.. I don't think anyone has experienced it and any reviews of any girls that say otherwise are guaranteed fake.

I've punted 9 times, and had good experiences on 4.  1 was so-so.  After reading through this site and some of the experiences posted I figure you gents would probably rate my "good" experiences around a 6/10. There are some phenomenal reviews out here.

What else can I answer?

Thanks to all,
Mkb
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 06:06:44 PM by mkb42 »

Offline mkb42

This place is just south of the river in central Londinium http://chariots.co.uk/vauxhall/    :lol:

 :scare:

Too many guys lounging around in towels for my taste.  :D

Offline mkb42

I'm really sick of these Yanks that keep coming on this board asking questions before doing any research. Like someone has already said, the main difference here compared to the US is that it is legal here and not there. Also, we do not tip and please don't. These girls get paid more than enough and we certainly don't want some American oil tycoon tipping girls which will only make them hike their prices up rather than their skirts.

Thank you! will certainly help budgeting out before I hop on the plane. :thumbsup:
The tipping thing in the US is definitely something they try to take advantage of as much as possible here.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 07:04:54 PM by mkb42 »

Offline LL

:scare:

Too many guys lounging around in towels for my taste.  :D
He's "yanking your chain". It's the British equivalent of being recommended to go to the Blue Oyster Bar :D

Offline Fredbone

A few comments - no tipping and agree in advance what in in the price and the cost of any extras, I.e. Anal if offered commonly, but not always is extra, £50+ via agency girls. Cash is normally paid at the start.  Agency girls cost more, but fewer scams. Use the reviews on this site to get best view of the quality and price.

Offline berksboy

Avoid the Romanians , yes some look hot as but 99% are a crap punt.

Apart from punting have a good trip and try some real ale !

Offline Fredbone

At the current $ to £ rate for $500 to 600, you will get two top rate WG for two hour, all service and no extras.

 :drinks:  :yahoo:

Offline Hobbit

At the current $ to £ rate for $500 to 600, you will get two top rate WG for two hour, all service and no extras.

 :drinks:  :yahoo:

Not necessarily. As discussed many times before - high prices do not necessarily mean good quality. Plus, the way the £ is dropping at the moment, there may not be much difference in currency rates with the US in a year or two, who knows?. The other day I bought something for $10 and it cost me £8. Scary stuff!

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What else can I answer?
Thanks to all,
Mkb
A credible response & good intel  :thumbsup:   I take it that LEO's pay little / no attention to Rub & Tug parlours coz they are everywhere ?  Over here the rozzers are really only interested if people trafficking / immigration offences.  Coz that's what the Govt target them on.  Whether you're having your boner stroked or not, is of no concern to them

Offline mrhappypants

Mkb42. Thanks for the strong contribution.  LA must have some amazing looking girls given the film industry attracts beautifulwomen from around the world but it sounds expensive and risky.

I hope this helps you planning - my thoughts are in there.  We will thank you for a review.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=104148.msg1232539#msg1232539

I should also say House of Divine would be my fall back option - not great value but reasonably reliable for an advanced booking.  I find AW chaotic - akin to putting the Amsterdam red light district online so you can never quite be sure who will be working on a given day.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 02:00:21 AM by mrhappypants »

I fly to London tonight from NYC. I post on Spahunters quite regularly and have left it a bit late to build up some trust on this site I doubt. There is a place Kiss Massage out in North Ealing that I may check out but I notice everyone seems to have a AW link to girls they've seen. Can I request their info from the place before hand or how do I go about finding them from only a first name? SH here isn't set up like that for reviews. Each AMP etc has it's own review page.




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