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Offline Bluebelle

Maybe you are one of the fabled exceptions?  :hi:
im definitely not a fable!haha. i know i could achieve anything career wise i want to...well maybe not a singer but i can live with that ;)

believe it or not i like my job and i do it because i choose to....definitely not a down on my luck crack whore...many of us are in fact not..shocking i know ;)

Offline NIK

i agree, i signed up initially thinking i could learn something, but i guess i find the stupidity of some too frustrating for it to be worth my while

One of many, many before you.
Perhaps if you don't want to take any notice of me you will take notice of Cassie?

Now where's King Neanderthal when you need him?  :lol:

Offline Bluebelle

 AnthG (my phone has a fit if i try to quote a long quote)

i can imagine its annoying the Sherlock Holmes ritual, but its just a basic safety procedure. you may be lovely and genuine, shame it can't be said for everyone

Offline Bluebelle

One of many, many before you.
Perhaps if you don't want to take any notice of me you will take notice of Cassie?

Now where's King Neanderthal when you need him?  :lol:

i wholeheartedly agree with cassie and was of the same opinion before joining.
i just don't agree with the idea that all escorts are only doing this because they're stupid and lazy.

Offline NIK

i wholeheartedly agree with cassie and was of the same opinion before joining.
i just don't agree with the idea that all escorts are only doing this because they're stupid and lazy.

Who said all?

It is, however, a significant percentage.

Offline Bluebelle

Who said all?

It is, however, a significant percentage.

....pedantic.
and this is based on clients who frequent this forum. how dare i contradict such authority.... :s

Offline Whore Of Babylon

Who said all?

It is, however, a significant percentage.
I work as a sex worker by choice, I like it and the money is brilliant. I have other options, I'm well educated and resourceful.
However I've not met as many WGs as Nik, so inclined to take his word for it.
If you take a look at the general quality of profiles on AW it would seem to support his view.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2013, 08:48:26 PM by Whore Of Babylon »

are you serious? ok i best be off, i can't converse with such ignorance

Instead of getting emotional and defensive why not put your points forward?
The worst that can happen is someone says 'you're wrong' and the world will keep on spinning anyway.

The best thing that could happen is you might actually change someones view..  Who knows, you might even learn how to see things through the eyes of a punter.

Only then will threads like this make sense and you will realise many of the statements are not ignorant but are actually reasonable opinions backed by years of our collective experiences.


i don't need to learn

I don't know everything about punting and I sure as hell don't know everything about the WG's side of the fence. The only thing that's ignorant is when someone believes they know it all.

Online Ali Katt

Great post Sucky. Even experts learn new things to bring to their field. I believe people never stop learning. From a business perspective, most companies listen to their customers needs and wants, rather than dictating to them that they should take what is offered; people have a choice of were to shop as consumers; this applies to punting, punters have a choice of who to see, even in a desert.

Offline AnthG

i just don't agree with the idea that all escorts are only doing this because they're stupid and lazy.
I do personally think its an age thing. I have been posting a bit on a few other punting forums alongside this one and on one of them the escorts on there have also taken a bit of offence to my same comments that you raised on another thread about escorts having bad grammar.

And they are taking that offence whilst running rings around my grammar to prove a point. So I think it seems there are two tiers of escorts. There are those like Strawberry who I find is very intelligent and could do pretty much anything she wanted. And came into this role later on. As according to AW and auto-censored she started in 2006 and is now 38 so that is an age of 31 she started this.

Or there is also the other generation of younger girls who do this as maybe an easy way to make money due to lack of effort.

And I will give an example. Leonie who was at Diamonds, but left so you may know her. She has been one of my best punts.

But look at her AW Profile. Its pretty awful with the lack of effort. I have bolded all the spelling errors in it. Now this cannot possibly be acceptable.

 https://www.adultwork.com/1718310

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I am a verry profesional and independant escort and can guarentee you
will be satisfied each and every time you book me.

I take my job verry seriously, Personal hygine is a must, so please
remember you wouldnt like it if it was the other way around :D

*specail offers* 2 days only 5.30-9pm
15min £35 45 mins £80

Frequently Asked Questions...
*Q.* can i bhy your panties/underwear?    *A.* yes theese items are sold
at £20 if u would like to do this make sure you let me no in advance so i can wear them all day for you :p
*Q.* can u do short notice bookings?    *A.* yes i can aslong as u ring me
with a certain time there should be no problem ... ''can i have a booking now'' isnt acceptable
*Q.* do u [offer dom or slavery appointments?    *A.* i will not and do not over dommination of any sort neither with having someone as my slave there are girls out there that specify in this sector and i do not feel
comfortable doing this please do not ask x
*Q.* do you actually enjoy your job?    *A.* well yes i do .. i have been doing it since i was 19 and if i didnt enjoy it i dont think i would
still be doing it now ... i enjoy the naughty-ness the niceness and
everything inbetween throughally enjoy meeting my clients and making there time with me memorable.
*Q.* What is the minimum age?    *A.* leagal age is 18 ... but i do prefer older gentleman
*Q.* I'm an older Gentlemen will you see me?    *A.* yes of corse theres no age discrimination.
*Q.* do you offer anal?    *A.* no i dont exit only guys please do not ask
*Q.* Q. What should I expect?    *A.* I offer a classic Girlfriend
Experience you will feel welcome safe and comfortable in my company ... and i will try to satisfy your every need ..
*Q.* How can I arrange to see you?    *A.* through email text or phone
call. WITHHELD OR BLOCKED NUMBERS WILL NOT BE ANSWERED
*Q.* How can I pay for my appointment? A. cash only    *A.* CASH ONLY ...
no gifts are accepted as payment but are appreaited and welcome.
*Q.* when is is the best time to catch you?    *A.* with in working hours .profile is checked on a daily basis but its best if u can txt or call to make enquires. i do not apprecatie phone calls in AM hours when it
clealy states i am not working please respect me as i would you
*Q.* When do I confirm my appointment?    *A.* YOU confirm the appointment via PHONE CONVERSATION preferably an hour before appointment.
*Q.* When does my appointment start?    *A.* As soon as you arrive. If you arrive late you need to keep me informed with travel delays.
*Q.* do you offer cum in mouth of face    *A.* unfortunatly not. i will NOT do this for EXTRA money please respect my dos and donts.

Now obviously she may see this, and she may have something like dylexia or something and if so I would feel like a bit of a git. But pretty much all escorts this is their profiles they create. If someone creates a profile with spelling that bad what does that suggest their attitude to life is like? Do you think if applying for jobs they put effort in or create job CVs littered with a million and one spelling errors.

Or example 2. Here is Carmel's. Who is a current girl with Diamonds.

 https://www.adultwork.com/1460350

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GOSFORTH... Email me for contact number for bookings xx
Hey guys ..

I am Carmel, i am a 20 year old busty blonde, proffesional escort, from Newcastle..
I am a dress size 12 , I have a huge 34HH (enhanced) bust..
So if you love big boobs i am deffiantly the girl for you!!!
I have worked in the industry for a short while now and i absolutley LOVE my job!

Weather you are looking for a full girl friend exprence or a more naughtier porn star exprence i will not dissapoint! ;-)

Duos are avaliable .. I work along side my friend who is a sexy size 8
brunette and offer a great and naughty duo together ;)

Take care..
Carmel
xxx

I could keep going on and on and on. And I mean you must surely admit that is pretty poor. It shows a total lack of effort on the girls behalf to not even setup an advertisement without even basic spelling.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2013, 09:27:21 PM by AnthG »

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I know this grammer thing has been brought up before, but yes badly written profiles do put me off, I agree that an AW profile can act maybe not as a CV, but certainly a business advert. It's mainly chav speak "c me 4 a gud fuk. i giv gr8 bjs" and bitchy profiles "you must respect me, no dickhead timewasters please" - that I hate. I do think they are a reflection of the escort in questions attitude towards the punter. I will excuse spelling mistakes if the girl speaks ESL, a phone call will determine if she is worth bothering with. With English escorts it is so easy to install a spell check in a web browser or check it by copying it into Word.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2013, 09:47:16 PM by Ali Katt »

Offline Bluebelle

look its ridiculous to claim there are two types of escorts. WE ARE HUMAN
are there two types of teachers? two types of policemen? two types of receptions? what kind of moron could even come to such a conclusion.
as a previous poster said i should try to explain my views, i feel i have tried....it seems to be a rather narrow minded clique so feels completely futile.
And can i just say the grammer comment is laughable looking at the structure of some posts on here!.
also what a ludicrous thing to say, yet again I'll press the point. we are human, there's far more than two types of us.

Offline James999

i don't see how you can possibly defend stereotyping.

Stereotyping exists for a reason, as such it is the fact that people recognise they fit the stereotype that they become offended  :hi:

plenty of us have had "real jobs" too. for years i worked crazy hours in a few different industries.
just because we choose to become escorts does not mean it is all we're capable of.

It clearly does as if they have a good job and income they would not throw it all in to become a prostitute, after all if being a prostitute was such a good "choice / career move" they would teach it in school and perhaps have a degree course in it  :hi:

look its ridiculous to claim there are two types of escorts. WE ARE HUMAN
are there two types of teachers? two types of policemen? two types of receptions? what kind of moron could even come to such a conclusion.
as a previous poster said i should try to explain my views, i feel i have tried....it seems to be a rather narrow minded clique so feels completely futile.
And can i just say the grammer comment is laughable looking at the structure of some posts on here!.
also what a ludicrous thing to say, yet again I'll press the point. we are human, there's far more than two types of us.

You get good cops  you get bad cops, you get good teachers. You get bad teachers & so on

Offline AnthG

And can i just say the grammer comment is laughable looking at the structure of some posts on here!.
I do not see why you are getting so upset.

With regards to this line I have quoted. The difference is, we are not advertising as a business. This is just a friendly discussion forum. An Adultwork profile is that girls business advertisement.

If I went onto Samsungs advertisements in the news papers or whatever or Apples, or Microsoft's and for example the last one said

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Buy Wendoys 8 its grait. It has multpule sceeens and a nice sheany new interfarce. cum bye it now

What would that convey? That is my point. If I go to Adultwork pretty much all profiles are like that. I wish they weren't but they are.

look its ridiculous to claim there are two types of escorts. WE ARE HUMAN
are there two types of teachers? two types of policemen? two types of receptions? what kind of moron could even come to such a conclusion.

There are two types of all of them. Good ones and bad ones. The bad ones don't put the effort in. The good ones do. Same as what I was spelling out with escorts.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 01:29:56 PM by AnthG »

Offline James999

I do not see why you are getting so upset.

Probably because she realises people can see straight through the Bullshiit and see the truth, add to that she was advertising as a size 8 and a guy punted her and said she was a lot fatter at a size 12 or so and older than her advertised age  :hi:

Online Ali Katt

look its ridiculous to claim there are two types of escorts. WE ARE HUMAN
are there two types of teachers? two types of policemen? two types of receptions? what kind of moron could even come to such a conclusion.
as a previous poster said i should try to explain my views, i feel i have tried....it seems to be a rather narrow minded clique so feels completely futile.
And can i just say the grammer comment is laughable looking at the structure of some posts on here!.
also what a ludicrous thing to say, yet again I'll press the point. we are human, there's far more than two types of us.
The comment isn't laughable, I maybe didn't explain it clearly. I like to see intelligent women, that is my choice as a punter, if an escort can't even spell intelligent I won't bother. I have less free time than I used to and punt less, so when I do I want quality, that's a perfectly reasonable demand.

People are judged on the occupation they do, that's the reality. If a punter saw you and he was unemployed, you'd judge him differently to if he was in the civil service. Everyone judges everyone, it is a normal human trait. There's people who are good at their job and people who aren't. If an escort is lazy, disorganized, and shows no people skills or bedroom skills - why shouldn't she be criticised. I've discuss this before and just because someone is an escort they are not beyond criticism - why should they be?

Punting is an expensive and often frustrating hobby, given the wage they receive, maybe they should buck their ideas up.


« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 03:36:04 PM by Ali Katt »

For me, some girls approach their AW profile in completely the wrong way with the wrong attitude. After all, it's all about marketing yourself and some of them really don't get it. Why would I want to book you when you've written a really negative and arsey profile telling me all the things I can't do, or basically full of warnings? Wow, what a turn on!  :wackogirl:

I know they get a lot of shite on there from time wasters but some of them let them get to them and it's reflected on the profile I.e a complete mistrust of anyone who wants to book them.

i don't need to learn, and i don't think that suggestion would do much good.
so while we're at it, all immigrants are scroungers i imagine, breast feeding in public offends you, any other pompous views you care to air?

I have to insist madam Bluebelle that we are not all full of ingorant prejudices or anti-feminists or anti immigrants. Some of us are just randy old farts. I may not agree with all or every post but prefer to be louche than to be argumentative. Concentrate on punting and ignore the fossils. I would also say that I for one prefer to use the term ladies rather than perjoratives which abound.

I have to insist madam Bluebelle that we are not all full of ingorant prejudices or anti-feminists or anti immigrants. Some of us are just randy old farts. I may not agree with all or every post but prefer to be louche than to be argumentative. Concentrate on punting and ignore the fossils. I would also say that I for one prefer to use the term ladies rather than perjoratives which abound.

+1.  But you already know that, Bluebelle. ;)

Offline Mystique46m

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i don't need to learn

I've got to say I have learned so much being on here, I wish I could be more detailed about WHAT I've learned since joining UKP but I wouldn't want it to sound like 'oooh look at me / touting'.
Suffice to say I've gained a new perspective on being a WG.

No-ones's perfect, so if there's a chance to learn I think we owe it to ourselves to do so.

Online Ali Katt

I've got to say I have learned so much being on here, I wish I could be more detailed about WHAT I've learned since joining UKP but I wouldn't want it to sound like 'oooh look at me / touting'.
Suffice to say I've gained a new perspective on being a WG.

No-ones's perfect, so if there's a chance to learn I think we owe it to ourselves to do so.
Good post Mystique. Before I joined this forum I had been punting 2, maybe 3 years and thought it was relatively simple, you turn up pay have sex go home. I now have a separate punting phone, can spot fake profiles on AW and Vivastreet etc - the list goes on. Unless an escort's service is perfect or 100% of a punters punts are successful there is always stuff to learn.

Offline Bluebelle

Probably because she realises people can see straight through the Bullshiit and see the truth, add to that she was advertising as a size 8 and a guy punted her and said she was a lot fatter at a size 12 or so and older than her advertised age  :hi:

hmmm no he actuallyy said i looked younger and as previously discussed photos are me...nice try creep ;).


thankyou to the lovely gentlemen who have tried to reassure me not all are arseholes (such as the pathetic creep posting above) thank god the majority of clients i see and people i encounter in day to day life in no way share such bitterness etc witth man above...james whatever-he-calls-himself

Offline Bluebelle

I've got to say I have learned so much being on here, I wish I could be more detailed about WHAT I've learned since joining UKP but I wouldn't want it to sound like 'oooh look at me / touting'.
Suffice to say I've gained a new perspective on being a WG.

No-ones's perfect, so if there's a chance to learn I think we owe it to ourselves to do so.



as i said previously please stop posting only abstract sections of my posts.
cutting and pasting them out of context is not big and its not clever.
if you can't present and support a reasonable example of how i am wrong please just go away until you're capable.
you're not the only one to employ such a childish tactic but its cringey and embarrassing....please stop...

Offline Bluebelle

 :crazy:
Stereotyping exists for a reason, as such it is the fact that people recognise they fit the stereotype that they become offended  :hi:

It clearly does as if they have a good job and income they would not throw it all in to become a prostitute, after all if being a prostitute was such a good "choice / career move" they would teach it in school and perhaps have a degree course in it  :hi:
can i ask your age? sorry to be blunt but you're either pretty young...20s? or extremely narrowminded/very sheltered life/not very independent? possibly living with parents or some such pandered to environment?
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 08:59:02 PM by Bluebelle »


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