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Offline Marmalade

Good luck mate. Are you using ISG?
Are you going on to Medellín on your trip? I think it is easier than Bogota and I can give you a few pointers if you need them, but you are maybe discovering the joy of finding out for yourself, which I think is admirable. Enjoy yourself.

I think one aspect that can be useful to some guys who haven't been is the trade off between price and safety zones. You are not afraid to explore and hopefully know how to go about it. But it is a different experience to Europe or Thailand.

What I do is make notes of key points so I can write up reports later. No-one expects you to be writing long reports when you could be fucking and enjoying what's out there.

Offline Jerboa

Well done OP, enjoy yourself and write up a decent report when you get back.  :thumbsup:

Offline Nextlevel

There’s been a few days since I got back in London but my mind is still in South America. I will try to write a comprehensive report about my Journey and my punting experience in there and I will try to be as objective as possible. But before this I want to say a few things about myself in order to understand my report from the correct point of view.  People have  different views when is coming to define what means to have a great punt and what makes an escort to be on top. For me the physical qualities are important but even more important is the escort’s attitude towards client, how much initiative she got, if she want to be in that room with me or rather in any other place. One of the biggest turn off for me are those escorts that are looking at the client like he is a kind of weirdo. The next are those that are like the furniture in the room and are getting disgusted if you want to touch them. Then are coming those that command you to take your clods off and lie in the bad. Than they are coming with baby wipes condoms and lubricants as they are about to perform a complicate medical intervention on you.  My list is much longer but I’m afraid that I’m already off topic.
The  good news is that in Venezuela and Colombia I had no such experiences but one of the hottest  experiences ever.  About Venezuela my expectations were much lower about the escorts. I knew that women are incredible beautiful but I was imagining that because of poverty women are forced into prostitution and because of that they are hating what are doing and might have a poor attitude towards client. I even read somewhere ( I don’t remember what forum) that one guy was saying that he felt like escorts he met in Venezuela were doing this just because of the poverty and he felt awful because of that. The poverty is a tragic reality in Venezuela but the attitude of women  towards  adult working is on average much better than in UK. It seams to be like they are saying: “If I don’t have other choice at list to enjoy this as much as possible”.   I don’t know the real explanation but I can tell you that nowhere I’ve seen women hotter and more willingly to enjoy sex than in Venezuela.
In 8 days that I spent in Caracas I’ve been with 14 escorts and with 2 of them I spent extended periods of time visiting some parts of the city and going to restaurants and doing overnights. Almost all 14 of them were amazing! I decided to make like a table and to put on it: date; time; name of the escort+ contact details(e.g. website address; tel number; twitter account); age; place where the action took place; price;  and then with marks from 1 to 10 physic and face attributes ; Attitude: Fk(I understand and respect the fact that some escorts choose not to FK but for me an escort that is not offering this service is a big turn off) ; GFE; Oral sex(owo or ow) and sex. After this it will be a short comment about the experience and a final Mark. The final mark is not an average of the other marks but rather a personal impression(e.g. an escort might not be great at physical attributes but because of the great attitude or connection she can get a bigger mark than one that have greater average marks. I want to specify that I adapted the marks to Venesuela where the girls are in my opinion insanely beautiful. That means that for example 7 out of 10 is one that you can’t pass without looking back.  I used  almost the same table and marks for my personal punting diary form many years and I never gave a 10. For me to give 10 means to stop punting  . On the other hand I can give a 0(zero) mark if a service is not provided at all.



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Offline Nextlevel

   This was my first report and it wasn't very detailed and I spoke just about Caracas. Bogota it will be in the next one... It was rather superficial but, probably as you found out by now, English is not my first language and is difficult to write very complex things... I hope You will not be very judgmental about my level of English. I know that I barely scratched the surface and I am not an expert in South America punting but definitely I know hugely more then what I knew when I was searching the internet and is much more what I know than what I putted in the report. I will be more than happy to answer your questions if you have specific ones. There is so much more to say but for now I want to say just this: even thought Venezuela is such a dangerous place I don't regret for a second that i've been there and I hope to go back there one day simply because women are so incredible hot, open and friendly with the guys. I never for a second felt that I am taking advantage of my position and I force a girl to do what she is not willing to do. The prices  in the table are in BsF and according to the exchange rate I got 10k BsF were about £6 and today are about £4. In other wards I punt almost for free. On the other hand the price for red wine(vino tinto) is about 35k a bottle. This is roughly the price for an overnight punt. Many things are strange in Venezuela but a thing is always a certain: women are hot and it is in their blood to enjoy mating. I felt in venezuela like I was covered in the finest chocolate. Ive been pampered kissed and hugged like nowhere else and they truly made me feel like the most important man on the planet(not that I am not :)  ). Owo was without questioning and DFK was the main way of communication. I never felt so much dedication to an encounter not even with my ex girlfriends. I never been asked to pay at the beginning of the meeting.
I know that I sound over exited and I appear like virgin that is discovering pussy for the first time in his life but I can assure you that this is not the case. I have over 200 punts in London only, I am in my late 30's and I had my great  and not so great punts. I love women and I know that I'm an addict but what I can tell you about my experience in Venezuela is that I felt that I'm on another Planet.I apologize for being over exited but this is just the way that I feel...Maybe the women in Caracas are just very good actors and they were laughing afterwards about how exited I was...

Offline MrMatrix

Thanks OP for the review. Sounds like a crazy time was had, really quite jealous. Out of interest how old are you, saves me going back over earlier pages. I've enjoyed this thread . Thanks  :thumbsup:

Offline Jerboa

Yes thanks OP, like your graph tables hehe, 10k is £6 bloody hell! would be interesting if you write a bit more about Caracas, where you stayed, prices, what you got up to during the day, what the security situation was like, did you venture out after dark? Did you only do short time incalls, no overnights? You also said some living costs like food etc was expensive,  how much for a meal in a average restaurant? Apart from punting what else is there to do during the day?

Also have you got any photos of these hot chicas? And did all these girls have twitter or escort profiles, maybe you can add them in a post, with a link so members can easily see them.

Offline Marmalade

I think it's a great report so far and hats off for the detail.  :hi:  There's a lot of work gone into that and I'm all for seeing NextLevel's reports on the other cities he visited, and also Colombia, and then start filling in the details.

Offline Marmalade

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For me the physical qualities are important but even more important is the escort’s attitude towards client, how much initiative she got, if she want to be in that room with me or rather in any other place. One of the biggest turn off for me are those escorts that are looking at the client like he is a kind of weirdo. The next are those that are like the furniture in the room and are getting disgusted if you want to touch them. Then are coming those that command you to take your clods off and lie in the bad. Than they are coming with baby wipes condoms and lubricants as they are about to perform a complicate medical intervention on you.

+1

Sounds like a seasoned punter!  :D

It is a reason I like S.A. so much compared to Europe. There seems far less of the "pieces of furniture" furniture" attitude. (I'd say a small part of it is it takes a long time to realise how bloody outstanding they are at faking it, but overall I agree with him that in S.A. there is more of an ability to think if they're doing the job anyway, if they don't feel they have much choice, they might as well enjoy it as much as they can -- at least I think it seems a more prevalent attitude.)

Offline Marmalade

Were all these out calls?

We used to do this scoring thing on ISG for a while (until it got overrun by Americans with too much money). One thing I'd normally add though is quality of casa if it was an incall. That usually affects price and punter choice.

Offline Nextlevel

 Thanks a lot to all for the good wards of encouragement!
To Jerboua: thanks for specific questions I will complete  my Caracas  report with all those info in a detailed way.
To Marmalade: thanks for all your feedbacks. All my punts in Caracas were incalls(girls  were coming to my hotel or motel. Is much safer this way. The prices are lower for outcall but at those rates what difference does it makes if you pay £6/h or £2/h? It is RIDICULOUSLY cheap!
Please forgive my ignorance but I am not familiar with many abreviationshots... :( . What is ISG) I couldn't understand  your last post( is me...I am out of context)

Offline Marmalade

Thanks a lot to all for the good wards of encouragement!
To Jerboua: thanks for specific questions I will complete  my Caracas  report with all those info in a detailed way.
To Marmalade: thanks for all your feedbacks. All my punts in Caracas were incalls(girls  were coming to my hotel or motel. Is much safer this way. The prices are lower for outcall but at those rates what difference does it makes if you pay £6/h or £2/h? It is RIDICULOUSLY cheap!
Please forgive my ignorance but I am not familiar with many abreviationshots... :( . What is ISG) I couldn't understand  your last post( is me...I am out of context)

Great stuff. I was checking exchange rates just now and even they are ridiculously cheap (high crime rate predicted for December so pleased you looked after yourself)

Incall = abbreviation for when you go to the girl's place
Outcall _ when she comes out to meet you.

Yeah I know it sounds back to front.

ISG = international sex guide. Another site (not sure if the auto censor will delete that, in which case you'll have to search for it.

Where are you just now? Of the places on your trip, I'm also interested in how you found Medellin, which has gone through quite a few ups and down recently.

Offline Nextlevel

Great stuff. I was checking exchange rates just now and even they are ridiculously cheap (high crime rate predicted for December so pleased you looked after yourself)

Incall = abbreviation for when you go to the girl's place
Outcall _ when she comes out to meet you.

Yeah I know it sounds back to front.

ISG = international sex guide. Another site (not sure if the auto censor will delete that, in which case you'll have to search for it.

Where are you just now? Of the places on your trip, I'm also interested in how you found Medellin, which has gone through quite a few ups and down recently.
Thanx! I remember that  I checked ISG during my research but I haven't found very  much  useful information there...
I realise that I need to come back with much more specific  info about my trip. I will formulate this in a single  shot and I will try to answer all the enquiries.
Now a short answer to Marmalade: I haven't  been  to Medellin, I've been only to Caracas in Venezuela and to Bogota in Colombia(8 days in each) there's been only Outcalls with  a single exception(I went to a girl in Bogota in Chapinero area). People(taxi drivers) were speaking highly about  Medellin. I was told  that  women there are much hotter than in Bogota...

Offline MrMatrix

keep the good work going NextLevel. Not sure I'll ever get there but its a great thread  :thumbsup:

Offline Marmalade

I agree with your informants about Medellín. If beauty is in the eye of the beholder then I have different eyes when I'm there. Hard to find a city anywhere to top it. Bogota is not my favourite but there's plenty of punting and of course it's huge.

Welcome to the forum. I think your information will be a great encouragement for the one or two brave punters who want to step out of the box and extend their comfort zones A bit.

Offline Jerboa

OP how is your report going, looking forward to the next instalment.  :thumbsup:

Offline Brazilian Martian

Glad you had such a good time I may need to go back to Caracas when I was there the prices were never as cheap, but to my own mistake I paid some of the prossies in US dollars. Great thread you created welcome to the fold :music:



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Offline Jerboa

I was hoping Nextlevel would of posted the remainder of his trip report by now, looks like he's gone Awol, and can not PM him either.

Offline Brazilian Martian

I was hoping Nextlevel would of posted the remainder of his trip report by now, looks like he's gone Awol, and can not PM him either.

Same here i hope he does come back the only thing I find odd was the prices he quoted they are just way too cheap it's to good to be true

Offline Jerboa

Same here i hope he does come back the only thing I find odd was the prices he quoted they are just way too cheap it's to good to be true

Yes but that's what happens when a country in in hyper inflation, they are desperate for hard currency, so the unofficial exchange rate is crazy.
The other day I was watching the BBC3 program about beauty contests in Venezuela, oh boy some of those birds would be worth a punt.  :wacko:
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Offline MrMatrix

Yes but that's what happens when a country in in hyper inflation, they are desperate for hard currency, so the unofficial exchange rate is crazy.
The other day I was watching the BBC3 program about beauty contests in Venezuela, oh boy some of those birds would be worth a punt.  :wacko:
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They are gorgeous and Billie Porter ain't so bad either. Bet she's well dirty having done all these sex documentary's  :yahoo:

Offline Nextlevel

      Hi, I am so sorry for the big delay, I had urgent things to solve and I barely opened the computer once or twice in over a month, I'm coming back today with the second part of my holiday( the one in Colombia). I flew from Caracas direct to Bogota. It is less than 2 hours fly but at the airport in Caracas is a nightmare, huge queues everywhere, and people “wiling to help you” for the right amount of money everywhere. I  can tell you that I got fouled this time by 2 guys that offered to help me and they were appearing to be part of the airport stuff. In short I had to give them about £10 in bolivars for absolutely nothing( shame on me). After you pass the security is much better. Is looking like a normal airport.
In Bogota after the check out I exchanged  30 dollars inside the airport. The rate was ok, approximately 10% less than Google rate. The whole atmosphere at the airport was so much different from Caracas airport. People were more relaxed, nobody was looking at me trying to change me money, offering a taxi or any other services . The next thing to do was to buy a SIM card from a shop inside the Airport. The girl in the shop helped me with all the settings. I just told her that I need a sim with approximately 1gb of data. I paid 40k COP (approximately 10 quid ) and I got 1.5 gb, 1000 minutes and 1500 texts. That was more than enough. The network is called Claro and is most popular in Bogota. Then I ordered an Uber and you can choose what door to be picked up from(from 1 to 5) Is very easy but my driver wasn’t familiar with the airport and he was on the upper level(there are two floors. found me short The upper one is for drop off and the lower one is for pick up. I called the guy and he after. His English was pretty good. I got to the hotel in about 30 minutes. The price was 27k cop (approx 7 quid debited from my account). The hole impression about the city during the journey from the airport was that I am not only on another country but on another continent. Different cars( newer and less polluting), cleaner air, much better maintained buildings, wider and better streets. The hotel I booked online was B3 Virrey  ( Carrera 15 con calle 88). Bogota is a grid like city with carreras running from north to south and calles running from east to east. Is like a huge plateau in the mountains at over 2500m altitude. The temperatures are pretty much the same all around the year( about 20-22 Celsius during the day and 10-12 during the night). They rarely use AC or heating.
At the hotel’s reception there is always at least one person that is speaking  English. That was a pleasant surprise after Venezuela( in Venezuela almost nobody is speaking English ).  The rooms are rather small(half of the size of the room in I had in Venezuela at Chacao Cumberland hotel) which is a big minus but it compensated with the fact that everything in the room and in the whole hotel was in perfect condition, everything was working perfectly and it was looking new and very clean. There was no heating or AC but the temperature in the room was about 21 at all time which is a good temperature. It was about 2pm when I got in the room and I felt exhausted. So many punts in Caracas, the fly but most of all the trip I had before at Avila mountain in Caracas, really got me… At Avila I was wearing only a t-shirt and nothing on my head and although it was cloudy most of the time I got sunburns all-over. Is equator, and Avila is at almost 3000m altitude. I felt in a very deep sleep and when I woke up it was 8pm. I was hungry so I decided to go out to find an restaurant. I asked at the reception where I can find one and I found that are a lot of restaurants, pubs, clubs just 2 streets away. It is called zone T and is kind of Covent gardens and Soho in London but it is not so compressed and feels less crowded. I walked on those streets for about half an hour and at all times I felt safe. No doggie people no dark corners, no strange groups. The area is very touristic and I heard people talking English, German, French, Portuguese all around me. On two occasions I’ve been approached of people handing out leaflets with night clubs and striptease bars but thy weren’t pushy or too insistent. I ate, and after I walked around for another good half an hour and I came back to the hotel. Maybe is just my impression but I felt like people were much colder…
    I will not relate about whole my time in Bogota hour by hour but I just wanted to describe you a little bit of the atmosphere. I will stick to the punts, where I punted how much I paid, experience description etc…
I used a few websites but the main one is External Link/Members Only . It is very well organised and is pretty much like adultwork. You can search  by region age services provided, prices etc, etc, etc. The first that appear are those profiles that had the most recent activity. For every punt I had I will attach the contact details including phone number. The website has a search engine and you can type the phone number or name. If the number belongs to an agency than you will find multiple profiles with the same phone number. The first days I punted at my hotel (b3 virrey) but soon I realised that this is not something usual and the reception can stop the girl at the reception.
The easiest and safeties way to punt is to take a room in a love hotel and to call the girls to your place. There are plenty of love hotels in Chapinero area. I’ve been in two of them. The price is about 40k cop (aprox 10 quid) from 6pm to 11am next day or the same price from 10am to 6pm. I think you can arrange at the reception to pay for 24 hours if you want to. The rooms have tiles all over the floor(this is something I dislike) so be sure you bring some flip flops with you. I personally have been in two of them: Motel Dandy and motel El Nuevo Chalet, both on the same street basically just cross the street. Both of them are quite similar in quality and prices and are well known by any escort. In the same area you have at least a dozen more motels like these( Portal, Casa Montana, Laguna Azul and many more). The address is Bogota Carrera 15 con calle 61 or short Cra.15 # 61. Bare in mind that the area is not safe for you to walk during the night like north area. If you need to go somewhere during the night better request an Uber( it is safe, registered, you don’t have to pay cash and is ridiculously cheap aprox 5 times cheaper than the uber in London).
Before going ahead with the same table I made for Caracas there are a few things I would like to underline. First you should know that on average my punting experiences in Bogota weren’t that breath-taking as those in Caracas. Don’t get me wrong… it wasn’t bad and I still got some amazing memories but girls in Bogota are are in general more professional( I mean that you can see that they do it like is part of their job and in Caracas I didn’t felt that way). Another turn of for me was that in almost all cases OWO is EXTRA or not allowed. FK is in most cases allowed but in many cases it is quite reluctant. All of this will be reflected in my marks.  Probably if I would’ve been just in Bogota without being in Caracas, I would’ve  been more enthusiastic and it appears that my punting experiences got eclipsed by those I got in Caracas.
Observation: In Colombia girls tend to have the skin a little lighter than in Venezuela but is almost the same mix. That is why is hard to describe because someone can have all three characteristics in equal proportion. Ex Erika I described her like black girl but her skin was very light and her face had south American features.
P.S. I will come back(soon I hope) with some specific details about Caracas that I neglected in the preview post.
Hasta luego!  :rolleyes:

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Offline Marmalade

Hey, great post and welcome back! I liked your contrasting descriptions of the two countries, "like different continents!" The sheer contrasts across South America are stunning. It's also good to get a feel of the difference in style and development you noticed. Plus the excitement of travel. I can't wait to get back there.

It's so easy to underestimate the vastness. Colombia and Venezuela would both fit inside Brazil with room to spare yet either dwarfs tiny Ecuador (a homely little country with above average punting, quite undeveloped, unsophisticated), many faceted Colombia, in-your-face hectic Brazil, and Argentina that preserves old European style better than Europe. Lots of hassles (Bogota airport looks so modern but it did my head in last time I was there) but on top of it all is so much colour, so much adventure, I could happily spend several years living and travelling about exploring South America!

So what are your plans next? 

Offline Nextlevel

Thanks a lot Marmalade for the good words. Getting to know other places and specially different customs, behaviours and attitudes it is in my opinion one of the most enriching experience one can get. Unfortunately I haven’t been in too many places so far but I hope this will change soon. Although I’ve been to Ukraine(kiev)  in November 2015  I never wrote a report about it… Ive been only for 4 days and I had mixed experiences(some were one of the best and others were above average). Kiev is an interesting place women are so beautiful and prices were really appealing .I am thinking to go in Kiev again but during the summer because I remember it was really cold and I didn’t explore too much except women’s beauty  . The days are very short in Kiev in November. I was thinking at Ecuador(that you just mentioned) and Peru in a single trip. Lima seams to be an interesting city that is by the ocean and seams quite abundant in escort servicing( I made some research) and I want to see Machu Picchu the Incan city( It is not easy  to get there and the whole journey takes several days but I think it is worthing). At the moment I am on intensive Spanish course and I cant wait to test for real what I’m learning.

Offline MrMatrix

Hi NextLevel. Well so pleased you're back and the report is most informative. its a great post. Looks like you've had a good time out there. Most useful for any one following in your footsteps.  :hi:

Offline Marmalade

Thanks a lot Marmalade for the good words. Getting to know other places and specially different customs, behaviours and attitudes it is in my opinion one of the most enriching experience one can get. Unfortunately I haven’t been in too many places so far but I hope this will change soon. Although I’ve been to Ukraine(kiev)  in November 2015  I never wrote a report about it… Ive been only for 4 days and I had mixed experiences(some were one of the best and others were above average). Kiev is an interesting place women are so beautiful and prices were really appealing .I am thinking to go in Kiev again but during the summer because I remember it was really cold and I didn’t explore too much except women’s beauty  . The days are very short in Kiev in November. I was thinking at Ecuador(that you just mentioned) and Peru in a single trip. Lima seams to be an interesting city that is by the ocean and seams quite abundant in escort servicing( I made some research) and I want to see Machu Picchu the Incan city( It is not easy  to get there and the whole journey takes several days but I think it is worthing). At the moment I am on intensive Spanish course and I cant wait to test for real what I’m learning.

Your comments on Kiev are noted. Thank you. I can look out some material on Ecuador that might be of interest. I like the fact that you travel for adventure. Much to be gained that way, and with punting as a perk! Quito is quite small. The best vfm brothels there I enjoyed followed a model I've found elsewhere: secret entrance, poorly lit bar over a couple of rooms with many women and loud music and music video screen. Choose, go to a back room, cost was negligible, I think it was 5 or 10 quid. Travel in Ecuador is facilitated by having smallish rucksack-only (same as Colombian airlines - seats crazy cheap prices but very excessive charges for checked bags). I look forward to more of your posts.

Offline Nextlevel

Hi, I came back with some additional information about Venezuela. I will try to be short and concise:
    I stayed in Chacao Cumberland Hotel(Av sta Lucia), quite a crap hotel  mainly because the lifts were working only half of the time and I was leaving at the 8th floor. The breakfast was included but it was next to nothing(btw I forgot to say in Bogota at B3 they had one of the best breakfasts). I paid £22 per day. The good thing was that the rooms were very large with plenty of space and the AC was very easy to adjust and not noisy.


       At the moment of this post(08/02/2017) the exchange rate on dolartoday website is 3500/ dollar. That means that you can easily change dollars at at least 2500/dollar at the hotel. This is almost double than I got in November and the prices for punting are almost the same. You can do the maths and see that on average punting in Caracas is now less than £4/ hour including transport for the girl that is coming to your hotel( aprox £3). One of the main reasons I got there was because I wanted to see if indeed is like that( AND IT IS EVEN IF IS SO HARD TO BELEVE) . In the preview post I mentioned that I personally changed money with the guy that is running the company taxitocaracas(the same that I used to come from the airport) but I remember that I got criticised for talking so high about them so I really don’t make any suggestions.  Some other 200 $ I changed at the hotel approximately  at the same rate. Please bear in mind that changing money at unofficial rate is illegal.  Do not ask to change dollars but rather “do you know where I can change some dollars?” If they are wiling to change come up with a rate that is about 75% of dollartoday and don’t accept less then 70%. Take dollars in cash instead of pounds or euro. 


     To invite the escort at a normal hotel is not the standard procedure. The reception and security is looking for everybody that is getting in and out and most likely will stop the lady at the reception. I played Hide and seek a few times but is not worthing … And I think this is the case for most of the normal hotels. Of course you can find the right persons to tip in order to go around but is not certain to succeed every time…
The easiest way is to book a love hotel. There are plenty in the area and are very cheap. There you can invite as many girls as you like. I booked American Dallas but are plenty in the area. The prices are 12000 Bsf for standard room; 16000 for Jacuzzi room; 22000 for presidential room with Jacuzzi in a big separate room , sauna, large living , two showers, and big bedroom. The prices are for 12 noon  to 8 pm or 6 pm to 10 am. For some reasons they don’t like to rent the rooms for more  than a period(day or evening) at the time(my Spanish wasn’t good enough to understand why).  Other motels might have different schedule. I think Gilmar is from 2pm to next day at 10 am(I asked but I didn’t like the rooms although it was much cheaper around 9k I think). Anyway you have plenty of them in the area: Gilmar, Dallas suites, Rora, Rama, Riazor. 
The food in the American Dallas is ok(nothing out of ordinary) and a meal is about 15k Bsf. Wine is very expensive a bottle(not the most expensive) is 30k( and not the most expensive one). Imagine that by comparison I paid 50k for an overnight with Dulce( the black girl from  twitter @th3wanf3rgirls ). A meal for 2 in a good restaurant is about 80k. This might not look much for Uk but for them is absolutely insane. Imagine that the average price for one hour encounter is 10k that means that you’ll have to pay what you’ll pay for 8 encounters just to eat diner. 

The tap water in Caracas is not drinkable. You will need to buy mineral water.  Do not try this experiment ,even the locals don’t venture to drink tap water.

      The air is very polluted in the city specially during the rush hour. Traffic is horrible, loads of very old polluting cars, 10 times more motorcyclists than in London and no cyclists at all. Crossing the zebra crossing is considered sport extreme.
I never ventured to go outside after dark( except once and I took the cab). Even during the day is not very safe to walk. If you decide to walk were the most common clothes  ( snickers, blue jeans and a t-shirt). Never look at your phone and keep it in your front pocket all the times. Nothing bad happened to me but I stayed alert at all times. I heard so many bad stories. Almost everyone in Caracas got robbed   at list once.
One place is very different from this. It is called Avila and you get there by cable car. It is the longest cable car line I ever seen and you get up in the mountains at over 3000m. from here you can see the whole city, people are much more tourist like, everyone is taking picture, plenty of ambulant food, restaurants, souvenirs. The air is clean and fresh and the views are amazing. The temperature is perfect, about 23-25 Celsius(comparative with over 30 in the city) and it is much dryer. It might be a good idea to take with you a light jacket just in case.  From there you can go a bit down to a place to a place called Galipan . There are plenty of restaurants, very cheap and good food, you can buy traditional food and beverages, souvenirs, sweets. The atmosphere is very relaxing. There is an ice rink at Avila just by the cable car station(it is interesting to skate in the mid summer) and few nice clothing shops. The cable car ride was 10k both ways for foreigners and 100bsf (which is nothing) for locals. I found this a bit odd but are much stranger things in Caracas.
The price for a bus ticket is less than 10 bsf( less than one penny ) which is nothing and the same goes for tubes. I haven’t use this but I understood that the underground is still well mentioned. Just as a curiosity the petrol and diesel is less than 1 PENNY/ LITRE!
The cab for small distances is anywhere between 1k and 2k (in today exchange rate approximately  between 0.5 and pound). There are some incall places to go that are even cheaper but I never took the risk to go there. 


    Contact and conection:   there are various websites but I found that the easiest way to see the most actual information is  through twitter address. Almost all the girls from the table have twitter account or whatsapp phone number attached. Once you get to their twitter account there is a website attached to those that have a website. I created a twitter account manly for Caracas. If you check it you will see that aprox 70% of the one I follow are escort from caracas. You can chose to fallow some of them. My twitter address is @Lucas_bangg  . To find   escorts that way is easier than ever and disappointing rate is almost zero(or it was in my case : )  ). Most of pictures are  accurate and often girls are looking better then in the pics because most of them are made with the phone and are unprofessional. In over 90% of the cases you don’t see the face of the escort but I haven’t been disappointed once. You wont find Bail and switch probably manly because the offer in Caracas exeeds many times the demand and most of the girls are free specially during the week time.


      I hope I’ve been more precise this time. I can guarantee that all the info I putted here are coming solely from my personal experiences and you can use them with confidence.
     All the best and if you choose to venture there please be extra careful, read my advices and eventually other and be ready to meet the hottest girls on the planet!

Offline Brazilian Martian

I need to get back there ASAP my mistake I made when I was there is I paid prossies with US dollars. But if it's now 4 pounds for a hours punt I'm going  conan the barbarian mode when i arrive.

Spot on about the pollution also how did you find south american drivers some of the worst in the world in my opinion
« Last Edit: February 08, 2017, 04:57:30 pm by Brazilian Martian »

Offline 3HK

Great post, did you check out the strip clubs in Caracas? I normally go straight to Porlamar so I don't spend that much time in Caracas, when you go next time get a flight to Porlamar (Isla Margarita) plenty of stunners in the clubs over there, safer and less tense than Caracas, they also have a strip club called Harem, plenty of worldies in there. My mate just came back from Venezuela, said the exchange was 300k bs to $100. Punts range from 15k bs to 35k bs from the girls on viva street / twitter etc more in the strip clubs.

Offline Nextlevel

Great stuff! I remember that I wanted to go to Isla Margarita but I put of by the prices to pay to get there. Can you give us more details about how you got there and how much you paid for tickets? 

Offline Marmalade

Just came across a scribbled map I had made when I was in Medellin and some guy had asked about getting around as the brothels seemed spaced out. So this group is nailed down easy walking distance of each other, no hills, so easy to do a quick 'round' before deciding. Taking a map for downtown, draw a square that takes in Calle 55-58 and Carrera 43-47.  Mark the brothels on it by looking up the address and you have Aiffe, New Life, Sexi and Zandalay. All nice places and open quite early. Fantasias and Yakusa weren't too far away but I liked the easy vicinity of the first four. These are for daytime pops.

Offline Marmalade

Price was around a tenner (30K) for half an hour (for what you'd pay 60-90 for in the U.K.). All very polite, absolutely no rip offs.

Offline 3HK

Great stuff! I remember that I wanted to go to Isla Margarita but I put of by the prices to pay to get there. Can you give us more details about how you got there and how much you paid for tickets?
45 minute flight, costs 17k bs if you book in advance, 44k bs if you book on the day. You can only buy the tickets in person using a card, I normally get my friends to book for me. If you can't get someone to buy your flight to Porlamar, you can buy through this website but they charge $ External Link/Members Only

I have the numbers of english speaking taxi drivers in Porlamar, if you ever need help shout me.

coa999

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venezuelan and colombian women do tend to be hot on average.

but plenty safer countries to visit in the region.

I'm not sure about Colombia, but in Venezuela:

- there is rampant crime, and bar the big cities like Caracas it's not wise to travel.
- a failing economy, and even shortages of toilet rolls
- not safe to go out at nights
- risk of mugging even in daylight for foreigners
- risk of foreigners being targeted for being wealthier

I'm not sure if Margarita (an island off the mainland) is safer, but then maybe it's better to just go in Caracas, stay in your hotel, get an escort, bang her, and move on.

Trinidad and TObago is nearby and imho better for punting. it's economy at the moment isn't too good, but nowhere near as bad as Venezuela. Escorting is illegalthere, but there are many places advertising in the press, and the police don't give a fuck really. People only get caught if it's foreign workers, like ironically Venezuelan girls since they could be trafficked.

Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, St. Maarten, Trinidad and Tobago, and Dominican Republic are imho the best to punt in.

Offline Brazilian Martian

venezuelan and colombian women do tend to be hot on average.

but plenty safer countries to visit in the region.

I'm not sure about Colombia, but in Venezuela:

- there is rampant crime, and bar the big cities like Caracas it's not wise to travel.
- a failing economy, and even shortages of toilet rolls
- not safe to go out at nights
- risk of mugging even in daylight for foreigners
- risk of foreigners being targeted for being wealthier

I'm not sure if Margarita (an island off the mainland) is safer, but then maybe it's better to just go in Caracas, stay in your hotel, get an escort, bang her, and move on.

Trinidad and TObago is nearby and imho better for punting. it's economy at the moment isn't too good, but nowhere near as bad as Venezuela. Escorting is illegalthere, but there are many places advertising in the press, and the police don't give a fuck really. People only get caught if it's foreign workers, like ironically Venezuelan girls since they could be trafficked.

Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, St. Maarten, Trinidad and Tobago, and Dominican Republic are imho the best to punt in.

You're talking nonsense about venezuela unless you have been there and punted then you are basing this probably on facts that you have read online. I've been there and punted in Caracas with brothel girls and street girls it's basically like most places you visit, if you use common sense and avoid places after dark a punter should be fine.

Offline Marmalade

Horses for courses. Some punters sadly shouldn't be let out after dark when their blind stick can't be seen by incoming traffic. Reminds me of the hilarious post recently when someone asked, "I'm thinking of taking a trip abroad: is it true that planes can crash?'

If people need a guide dog and a policeman on every corner to help them out with their bags, stay in Europe. In fact, don't punt, ever.

Online webpunter

That line was taking the piss out of the bollocks question by the OP

Reminds me of the hilarious post recently when someone asked, "I'm thinking of taking a trip abroad: is it true that planes can crash?'

Offline Marmalade

That line was taking the piss out of the bollocks question by the OP
Quite rightly!  :cool:

Offline Jerboa

Yes some fellas should stick to punting in safe countries, it's all down to your comfort zone, and how you handle yourself without becoming a target.

Online webpunter

I would suggest the Isle of Wight.  Although full of inbreds & munters

Yes some fellas should stick to punting in safe countries, it's all down to your comfort zone, and how you handle yourself without becoming a target.

Offline Brazilian Martian

Maybe blackpool or margate might be better for some

Demiro77

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Hm...

I have booked the Colombia holdiays for the end of may (Bogota, Cali, Medellin)... and now reading this... I wonder if I should got a week earlier to Caracas  :blush: not just coz of theprices.. but coz of the attitude

I read a lot about Caracas prices from the OP, but very little about Colombian ones... from my "limited" research they are nowhere near that cheap

one other thing... I am more on the kinky side... how are girls kinky there? My colombian ex here in London was super kinky.. but I understand that is not really the case there?

Offline Marmalade

What are your flight arrangements and how long have you allowed for each Colombian city? What sort of South American or long haul punting experience do you have? Speak any Spanish?

Demiro77

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I speak Spanish quite well...

for now don't have any specific plans nor arrangements, will go with the flow...
Never been there though...

the plan is the mix of local punting + some dating experience (tinder), already chatted with couple of girls in each city that I would like to meet..Would like more personal experience

hence no arrangements yet... I like to be free from those... and rather make plans on the fly... depending on the situation... but the plan would be go to each city for 4-5 days....


as of my punting experience... around a year, just here in London (bit in Spain)... quite into darker, curvier latina women (more the petite kind)... which are really hard to find here... ant the prices are super exaggerated
« Last Edit: April 04, 2017, 01:32:22 am by Demiro77 »

Offline Brazilian Martian

I speak Spanish quite well...

for now don't have any specific plans nor arrangements, will go with the flow...
Never been there though...

the plan is the mix of local punting + some dating experience (tinder), already chatted with couple of girls in each city that I would like to meet..Would like more personal experience

hence no arrangements yet... I like to be free from those... and rather make plans on the fly... depending on the situation... but the plan would be go to each city for 4-5 days....


as of my punting experience... around a year, just here in London (bit in Spain)... quite into darker, curvier latina women (more the petite kind)... which are really hard to find here... ant the prices are super exaggerated

If you do go to venezuela I would personally stick to brothel girls you can find lots of brothels online via Google. As for colombia I've never been to the city's you have listed so my advice may not be good for you there, when I was there I punted and had lots of  :dance: with local civvies. Also in terms to of dating the culture of both countries are totally different so you may find that women from both countries act slightly different. But as you speak Spanish you should be fine over there :music:
« Last Edit: April 04, 2017, 02:06:08 am by Brazilian Martian »

Offline Marmalade

It's quite a bit of air travel, even though they're short flights. Or if going by bus that takes a big lump out of '4 or 5 days'. You can pick up cheap internal flights in Colombia IF you don't have check-in baggage.

Demiro77

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Yeah... I know... that is already figured out, thanks.... is 45-60min flight from Bogota to Cali..sometimes for $20....so no problems there... a lot of flights per day as well.... amazingly no trains at all... and busses take 10h+... lol

Offline Johnny wishbone

I'm off to Colombia for two weeks in November: Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena. Looking to gather as much information as possible. I've noticed a few phrases they use like Black kiss: what does that mean? is there a page that explains all phrases they use to describe the services on offer?

Offline Brazilian Martian

I'm off to Colombia for two weeks in November: Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena. Looking to gather as much information as possible. I've noticed a few phrases they use like Black kiss: what does that mean? is there a page that explains all phrases they use to describe the services on offer?

Black kiss is rimming  :hi:

Offline tantric talents

Had many great times in both Colombia and Venezuela but always with a partner so no opportunity to punt.
Enjoy yourself! Both are beautiful countries with beautiful girls :thumbsup:

Offline Marmalade

I'm off to Colombia for two weeks in November: Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena. Looking to gather as much information as possible. I've noticed a few phrases they use like Black kiss: what does that mean? is there a page that explains all phrases they use to describe the services on offer?

How long do you plan to stay in each place? I suspect you'll need more than a glossary. But good luck! Ahhh... I see it's been covered in an earlier thread. Look forward to your updates!


« Last Edit: August 31, 2017, 09:27:38 pm by Marmalade »