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Author Topic: Escort Agency vs Indie  (Read 2518 times)

Wiltsboy01

Does anybody know how much an agency takes out of what a girl makes? I ask because I've seen the same person as an Indie and via an agency.  Does the girl get screwed over (no pun intended) by an agency or would they actually prefer you to see them in someone else's place with facilities laid on?

Sorry it's more questions, but I'm a'research the arse off something before I do' kind of person so I'm all questions at the moment.

Offline smiths

Does anybody know how much an agency takes out of what a girl makes? I ask because I've seen the same person as an Indie and via an agency.  Does the girl get screwed over (no pun intended) by an agency or would they actually prefer you to see them in someone else's place with facilities laid on?

Sorry it's more questions, but I'm a'research the arse off something before I do' kind of person so I'm all questions at the moment.

Agencies take by agreement at least a third of a WGs fee. Unlike a Parlour which always offers WGs the premises to punt in which is of course the biggest cost to a WG, many Agencies dont provide the premises yet still take the same or a bigger cut. Only the WG can say if she feels screwed over. Some cant speak English or well so getting work through an Agency might suit them better, some others just wish to turn up and work with punters laid on by the Agency. I have punted with many who worked at Agencies before going Indie.

IMO in London at least Agencies are just greedy arseholes and an unnecessary third party who bumps the cost up to punters. When i used to punt through Agencies years ago at the first punt with a WG i would always ask if she also worked Indie and if so if that was cheaper i would punt with her Indie, i saved a bit and she got 100% of my money, a win, win except for the Agency of course.

Offline HannahDarcy

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The agency I started out with took 20% for an outcall, more for an incall at their flat.

Girls cost less as an indie to the punter because they are knocking the agencies commission fee off their rate. It works out as the same money for the girl - less for the punter - only the agency misses out as smiths says.

Cutting out the middle man. Glad I did.



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very odd question to ask why does it bother you?
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high end agencys take 40%

Offline smiths

very odd question to ask why does it bother you?
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high end agencys take 40%

I dont think its a very odd question at all, its one i often see asked by punters on forums. IMO its handy to know that a chunk of the punters fee goes to the Agency, and by doing a bit of research money can be saved by cutting them out, at least in London.

 Part of the reason to have a forum like this is to share information and for me informing a newbie of stuff like this could save him a lot of money, i only wish i had such a resource 30 years ago when i was a newbie punter.

Offline AnthG

very odd question to ask why does it bother you?
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high end agencys take 40%
I don't think its an odd question. I actually think its something that needs and should be pointed out. This is because many girls act like they are being robbed blind if they are asked to charge less than £100 per hour.

And yet at agencys they take between 30-50%.

From what I have been told at the newcastle agencies its 30% for a straight booking at her place. Or 50% if she then uses their property to.

So a £100 per hour she is only making £50. Which is a lot of money but if you asked an indy to charge £50 per hour she'd laugh in your face.

The whole thing immediately reminds me of RedAlerts desire/plan or whatever it was to not book again until all girls charged £50 per hour. Or something along those lines.

If a girl works for an agency she takes that £50 without qualms gripes or anything.

Offline seeker

Some of the girls get GREEDY when they go indi. ...after they have got some good feedback £150+ph ... I blacklist these greedy pro$$ies.
We the punters should refuse to book them. thier prices would soon come down ..give them the dusty phone syndrome.

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If you go for an outcall agency in London.
If the charge is £150 in a lot of cases the girl gets £50

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Some of the girls get GREEDY when they go indi. ...after they have got some good feedback £150+ph ... I blacklist these greedy pro$$ies.

I learnt my lesson last year.

Now if I offer to do a good report on a girl I ask her to guarantee any price rise does not apply to me.

Of course this agreement would not be legally enforceable.   :P

Offline toon972

I recently booked a girl for 1.5 hrs @ £150 from an agency as an incall at the agencies premises.Out of that she received £80 and the agency £70,included in that would be rental for premises.I was her first customer so not sure if she pays rent for every booking or just a one off payment for the time she has the premises,eg the rest of her bookings are rent free.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 10:48:03 PM by toon972 »

very odd question to ask why does it bother you?
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high end agencys take 40%

I dont think its a very odd question at all, its one i often see asked by punters on forums. IMO its handy to know that a chunk of the punters fee goes to the Agency, and by doing a bit of research money can be saved by cutting them out, at least in London.

 Part of the reason to have a forum like this is to share information and for me informing a newbie of stuff like this could save him a lot of money, i only wish i had such a resource 30 years ago when i was a newbie punter.

Given that 2 of his 8 posts have asked questions about areas of the industry which don't [shouldn't?] affect the actual time we spend with the WGs we see, I too, think it was an odd question.  Is he a troll/researcher/reporter?

Wiltsboy01

I'm a pretty unfocused hack if only 25% of my questions are relating to something I'm researching.
Mods can ban me if they want - I got my story. Joke.

Forums are where you ask questions aren't they.
Regarding the service element of punting I am a grown up so know what my cock is for and therefore have that side covered.

Offline smiths

Given that 2 of his 8 posts have asked questions about areas of the industry which don't [shouldn't?] affect the actual time we spend with the WGs we see, I too, think it was an odd question.  Is he a troll/researcher/reporter?

As i posted i have many times seen posters asking the same question, at least some of them went on to be long term posters. I have no idea if he is a troll/researcher/reporter or just a punter asking a question but i will treat him as the latter till i know otherwise.

I f&cking love agencies!!!!
1. I got the horn.
2. I have 90 mins free in an hours time.
3. I have a hankering for a fit young girl. Say on this occasion, I want to screw a young lady that resembles "Mercedes" from Hollyoaks.
4.I browse the "available today" galleries of my preferred London agencies, call the agency, get the address and within the hour I'm having my cock sucked by a truly stunning girl...often a genuine glamour model.
5. I leave a happy man  :yahoo:

I know agencies are more expensive than indies that advertise on AW  but for me, they're worlds apart!!
The sheer hassle of AW! Calling 20 numbers before I even speak to someone, being messed around by the girl, safety issues and while I've seen a couple of fairly pretty girls, I've never had a girl that looks like a lingerie model - not even close.

As far as I know, the better agencies take 30% from the girl.
The way I see it is this: AW is so over-saturated and for various reasons (e.g influx of ee girls), prices have crept lower and lower so why would a real stunner be on AW for a max of £150 when she can be with an agency for £300+?

Also, a girl with an agency has the luxury of all her calls being dealt with and her diary managed thus leaving her free to get on with the rest of her life when not working. I've heard indies complain about dealing with calls and texts all day, every day or missing bookings because they miss calls during appointments.
High-end agency escorts tend to get a bit variation with their bookings. Dinner dates, outcalls to Park Lane hotels etc. Personally, I occasionally treat myself to dinner and a hotel with my fave girl. Pure bliss!  :yahoo:

Please note I'm referring to London agencies here. I know very little about agencies in other towns/cities and have no idea about how well run they are as an organisation, but the girls pics seem to be very average. :(



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I browse the "available today" galleries of my preferred London agencies, call the agency, get the address and within the hour I'm having my cock sucked by a truly stunning girl...often a genuine glamour model.

really? so your saying that the girls are not often photoshopped to death? hmm interesting

Offline Matium

prices have crept lower and lower so why would a real stunner be on AW for a max of £150 when she can be with an agency for £300+?

Also, a girl with an agency has the luxury of all her calls being dealt with and her diary managed thus leaving her free to get on with the rest of her life when not working. I've heard indies complain about dealing with calls and texts all day, every day or missing bookings because they miss calls during appointments.
High-end agency escorts tend to get a bit variation with their bookings. Dinner dates, outcalls to Park Lane hotels etc. Personally, I occasionally treat myself to dinner and a hotel with my fave girl. Pure bliss!


You're not actually a punter are you?

You're either a WG or a pimp.

A real punter knows that there is no correlation between price and performance.

And don't try boasting about money, there's guys on UKP who have more money than you can dream of.

Take your pimping elsewhere.


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A real punter knows that there is no correlation between price and performance.
Oh really? So you'd expect a £10 street girl would provide a level of service akin to an indie/agency girl? Of course there's a correlation , although it can vary wildly.


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You're either a WG or a pimp.
Well as I promote neither an agency or a working girl and simply state my punting preference, my marketing skills would be pretty poor  :P

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And don't try boasting about money, there's guys on UKP who have more money than you can dream of
Oh? How vulgar of me! I had no idea I'd divulged a scrap of my personal financial details. Perhaps you could point that out to me?  Or is it simply because when I indulge in my favourite hobby I prefer to book in the most convenient way, with the most beautiful girl possible - a style of punting that also happens to be at a premium.

We're all entitled to our preferences, and it seems mine has brought out some rather irrationally angry and paranoid tendencies in you.  ;)
I hope you have well-needed, relaxing weekend.   :hi:

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really? so your saying that the girls are not often photoshopped to death? hmm interesting

Actually, no Rebecca. All agencies airbrush to some extend, although the ones I prefer leave the girls photos much more natural. When browsing cheaper agencies, the level of photoshopping is terrible. The girls almost look almost cartoonish  :D
In all fairness, I've seen some pretty shocking over-photophopping from indies too.
I'm guessing the agencies I use interview the girls to check they're genuinely hot in person.
Thankfully, it's pretty easy to tell when a photo's airbrushed to death and therefore easy to avoid.


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