Phoenix Parties

[Herbie]

This negative feedback is based both on the most party I have attended and also how far the standards have slipped with Phoenix/LMP over the past couple of years.

Firstly when I turned up for this latest party I was surprised to actually see the 5 advertised girls, which is quite rare nowadays as they do seem to switch girls quite regularly and if number of guys are slightly down they don’t miss the opportunity to drop one of the girls to save money. Partying that afternoon were Kasia, Monique, Izabella, Vera, and Tilda. It was also quite a full party with around 8-9 guys, and most of these seemed to be guys who liked having just one to one’s and were not keen for others to join in. This meant through no choice of my own a lot of time was just spent standing and watching with only a couple of girls encouraging guys to join in. I did get the chance to play with 2 of my favourites Kasia and Monique who were just as good as ever, and Kasia looked lovely with her holiday tan. I didnt get the chance to play with Izabella as she seemed to have 2 guys with here most of the time. The biggest turn-off was the attitude and behaviour of the other 2, who seemed to want just to see the youngers guys who were there and when I did get the chance to play with them I was told both were both only doing oral with that day (assumed it was not me as saw others getting the same treatment and also had no issues when I was with Kasia and Monique), maybe the girls have the choice nowadays ?? Suffice to say this was a bit of a downer and when I politely made my excuses to go for a drink, I got a few expletives under her breath…. WTF !! 

I have been going to these parties in both guises for last 3-4 years attending around once a month and the above scenario seems to sum up why I believe standards have dropped so much. Very rarely do you see Emma at these parties nowadays keeping a control over what goes on, and the usual 2 hostesses are such moody mares who only job nowadays seem to just bring up food and shout out when there is 30 mins left. There is no control over certain girls who make the most out of this situation to do as little work as possible, and also guys who just want to hog girls for around 30-40mins… this never happened in the past. Also whilst this was the afternoon party I have also been to evening parties where the hostess starts hoovering the party room during the party, nothing like killing the atmosphere !!  .

The other issue now is some of the choices of the new girls, who either can hardly string a sentence of English together or have no personality to hold a conversation, but it’s the guys who always get the blame for the lack of atmosphere at the parties. This together with the usual turnover of the more experienced girls has led to a very mundane and boring atmosphere in most parties and a almost a factory conveyer belt level of service compared to a few years ago. They just seem to have let their eye off the ball and fallen into the same issues some the other previous party organisers suffered from just before they ended.

The only positive is whilst other might disagree is £160 for 2 hours of fun is still reasonable value, but there will come a time when the poor quality of parties will overtake this value for money argument.

[The_Don]

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[marble15]

Thanks for this, i was thinking about going to one of their parties but wasn't sure, i've never been to one before.

Are their any other places similar to this?

[yumyum3]

Thanks for your review. I haven't been for ages and won't be doing so anytime soon. Not good and sad to hear. 

[vt]

Surprised you didn't have a great time with Kasia, Izabella & Vera...they normally are always very enthusiastic players...nevertheless some very worrying issues raised...let's hope the organisers take on board what you wrote and remedy the situation!

[smiths]

This negative feedback is based both on the most party I have attended and also how far the standards have slipped with Phoenix/LMP over the past couple of years.

Firstly when I turned up for this latest party I was surprised to actually see the 5 advertised girls, which is quite rare nowadays as they do seem to switch girls quite regularly and if number of guys are slightly down they don’t miss the opportunity to drop one of the girls to save money. Partying that afternoon were Kasia, Monique, Izabella, Vera, and Tilda. It was also quite a full party with around 8-9 guys, and most of these seemed to be guys who liked having just one to one’s and were not keen for others to join in. This meant through no choice of my own a lot of time was just spent standing and watching with only a couple of girls encouraging guys to join in. I did get the chance to play with 2 of my favourites Kasia and Monique who were just as good as ever, and Kasia looked lovely with her holiday tan. I didnt get the chance to play with Izabella as she seemed to have 2 guys with here most of the time. The biggest turn-off was the attitude and behaviour of the other 2, who seemed to want just to see the youngers guys who were there and when I did get the chance to play with them I was told both were both only doing oral with that day (assumed it was not me as saw others getting the same treatment and also had no issues when I was with Kasia and Monique), maybe the girls have the choice nowadays ?? Suffice to say this was a bit of a downer and when I politely made my excuses to go for a drink, I got a few expletives under her breath…. WTF !! 

I have been going to these parties in both guises for last 3-4 years attending around once a month and the above scenario seems to sum up why I believe standards have dropped so much. Very rarely do you see Emma at these parties nowadays keeping a control over what goes on, and the usual 2 hostesses are such moody mares who only job nowadays seem to just bring up food and shout out when there is 30 mins left. There is no control over certain girls who make the most out of this situation to do as little work as possible, and also guys who just want to hog girls for around 30-40mins… this never happened in the past. Also whilst this was the afternoon party I have also been to evening parties where the hostess starts hoovering the party room during the party, nothing like killing the atmosphere !!  .

The other issue now is some of the choices of the new girls, who either can hardly string a sentence of English together or have no personality to hold a conversation, but it’s the guys who always get the blame for the lack of atmosphere at the parties. This together with the usual turnover of the more experienced girls has led to a very mundane and boring atmosphere in most parties and a almost a factory conveyer belt level of service compared to a few years ago. They just seem to have let their eye off the ball and fallen into the same issues some the other previous party organisers suffered from just before they ended.

The only positive is whilst other might disagree is £160 for 2 hours of fun is still reasonable value, but there will come a time when the poor quality of parties will overtake this value for money argument.

Personally I don't agree its still good value, the cheek to me is they are still charging the same £160 for 2 hours that LMP was at its end BUT with 2 less WGs per party, 3 sometimes as LMP on occasion had 8 WGs per party at its great peak. So for me the time has come and gone when I have lost any interest apart from the blatant touting and cheerleading some do on them on here, trying to manipulate UKP and undermine it as I see it.

Em was THE main factor why LMP was so good, she used to be at virtually every party I went to and her being their ensured a well ran party with the WGs kept on their toes. Her personality also added a lot to a party as did Moss upstairs. A shame a once good party who set great standards has descended to this.

[yumyum3]

Em was THE main factor why LMP was so good, she used to be at virtually every party I went to and her being their ensured a well ran party with the WGs kept on their toes. Her personality also added a lot to a party as did Moss upstairs. A shame a once good party who set great standards has descended to this.

Indeed. Good post.

[Colin McGoober]

Thanks for the Review.

I was thinking of going next week but I'm not sure now after reading this, its leaning on maybe depending on the line-up.

[An tUasal Liathroid Mor]

Indeed. Good post.

+1.....shame what has happened there...

[vt]

Personally I don't agree its still good value, the cheek to me is they are still charging the same £160 for 2 hours that LMP was at its end BUT with 2 less WGs per party, 3 sometimes as LMP on occasion had 8 WGs per party at its great peak. So for me the time has come and gone when I have lost any interest apart from the blatant touting and cheerleading some do on them on here, trying to manipulate UKP and undermine it as I see it.

Em was THE main factor why LMP was so good, she used to be at virtually every party I went to and her being their ensured a well ran party with the WGs kept on their toes. Her personality also added a lot to a party as did Moss upstairs. A shame a once good party who set great standards has descended to this.

I can only write honestly about places where I'm spending my hard-earned punting budget, whether that's seen as cheerleading, touting or undermining a forum by some or not, but I think my varied contributions on here about my punting experiences speak for themselves. I've attended 7 Phoenix parties so far this year, which is a bit less than my usual rate of once a month, which may say something about a waning interest...or not wanting to travel up to C London as often. 

I would agree that any issues raised in this review need addressing, I've expressed similar misgivings here. Em has mostly been there when I've attended this year, so she isn't absent, though rarely interjects as she used to. I think she's trying to work out how to revitalise the project.

Time moves on, but I do see what you're saying about less girls for the same money, though I never could get around 7, let alone 8 in the LMP days, as there was also a correspondingly higher guy count. If I can meet 5 hot young girls I fancy over the course of 2 hrs, I still see it as pretty good VFM.

The fact remains that there is no other party provider in London offering anything with a max 2:1 ratio for less, let alone with girls you would actually want to fuck. Any suggestions for alternatives, please??

Out in my patch, Cambridge Parties want £220 for 2.5hrs with fag breaks. The girls they employ are British, I don't know what they go like, but I wouldn't say they are all up to Phoenix standard in looks, though recent additions Jasmine Lau & Lu Elissa do look quite nice.

GGP when they're at Sutton want £100 for 1.5hrs, they have nice girls, but no guarantees on ratios which can balloon up to 6:1 according to some reviews.

Hot Box in Northampton do a 2:1 ratio party for 2hrs for £120, but the ladies do look very MILFish to me.

The various parties in Brum seem to offer the best VFM, but I've been told they are often attended by groups of Asian youth who pass the girls on to their mates to the detriment of other guests.

I guess guys need to work out for themselves if they still want to pay the price for what's on offer at Phoenix.

[Steely Dan]

The fact remains that there is no other party provider in London offering anything with a max 2:1 ratio for less, let alone with girls you would actually want to fuck. Any suggestions for alternatives, please??

So what you are saying, is they are worse than before, but still may be the best.  Sad, but perhaps true. And lets face it, fucking 5 girls in a row is never that bad.

Your comments on alternatives are a good summary.  Here is the full list.
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While I have not planned this exactly, over the last year I have done 4 parties at LeJeu, and only one at Phoenix. I guess it is because sometimes I want to stretch myself to more than an hour 1-1, but I cant be bothered with any queing. But I did enjoy my one Phoenix party, I will go back.  Thanks to the OP for a reminder of what it can be like. Like real photos, an honest understanding of truth helps.

[smiths]

I can only write honestly about places where I'm spending my hard-earned punting budget, whether that's seen as cheerleading, touting or undermining a forum by some or not, but I think my varied contributions on here about my punting experiences speak for themselves. I've attended 7 Phoenix parties so far this year, which is a bit less than my usual rate of once a month, which may say something about a waning interest...or not wanting to travel up to C London as often. 

I would agree that any issues raised in this review need addressing, I've expressed similar misgivings here. Em has mostly been there when I've attended this year, so she isn't absent, though rarely interjects as she used to. I think she's trying to work out how to revitalise the project.

Time moves on, but I do see what you're saying about less girls for the same money, though I never could get around 7, let alone 8 in the LMP days, as there was also a correspondingly higher guy count. If I can meet 5 hot young girls I fancy over the course of 2 hrs, I still see it as pretty good VFM.

The fact remains that there is no other party provider in London offering anything with a max 2:1 ratio for less, let alone with girls you would actually want to fuck. Any suggestions for alternatives, please??

Out in my patch, Cambridge Parties want £220 for 2.5hrs with fag breaks. The girls they employ are British, I don't know what they go like, but I wouldn't say they are all up to Phoenix standard in looks, though recent additions Jasmine Lau & Lu Elissa do look quite nice.

GGP when they're at Sutton want £100 for 1.5hrs, they have nice girls, but no guarantees on ratios which can balloon up to 6:1 according to some reviews.

Hot Box in Northampton do a 2:1 ratio party for 2hrs for £120, but the ladies do look very MILFish to me.

The various parties in Brum seem to offer the best VFM, but I've been told they are often attended by groups of Asian youth who pass the girls on to their mates to the detriment of other guests.

I guess guys need to work out for themselves if they still want to pay the price for what's on offer at Phoenix.

You know what I think as I have said so, I don't trust you as you have previous self confessed form for taking secret discounts off a pimp, Chloe Kisses when she ran MK Escorts for the Divines. That crosses the rubicon for me into the punter being able to be bought thus what he posts I don't believe. What others think is up to them.

Of course punters need to decide where they wish to punt, that's their business assuming they are being honest.

[Mrkman]

I went to my first party in ages on sat 17th. Two things I'd like to point out;

1; Emma was there the whole time, and all the girls got involved

2; Barbara was not scheduled but still partied, making the girls 7 (ok so there was a lot of guys but my point is it was a full rosta +1)


That said, it is certainly different from the lmp days

[vt]

So what you are saying, is they are worse than before, but still may be the best.  Sad, but perhaps true. And lets face it, fucking 5 girls in a row is never that bad.

Fair summary! 

If they are 5 girls I fancy, it's very good...and at about £30 per pop, I don't apologise for still seeing it as a VFM punting option. 

[GreyDave]

   GGP in Sutton were a bit of a scrum when I have been, I have to say that I did not count up and do number ratio but it was seemed like a 4-1 I found myself concentrating on two girls and making sure I was ready (hard ) to do biz it was as they say a sausage fest   Good if you are a girl that likes that but nerving when up against loads of other cock...Cambridge parties almost similar not as crowded and as mentioned fag/tea breaks Lmp were good Vfm when faced with "quality girls" and it seemed less barging in Phex I have only been twice and maybe its me aging ratios def lower and therefore better for punter "if " you can get around the girls in 2hrs ...This favours the younger studs   Maybe some one should do an all day event like Cynthia Payne used to do...bugger Ive no LV`s to get in there

[nickleupip]

I have also noticed the decline at the Phoenix...

Increasingly girls who will want to do oral with only, and also others who will not FK!!! Absence of party atmosphere and mechanical shagging... If I want that I can do that anywhere...

There are a few lazy ones, that since they can underperform and still stay at the rota, it is normal for the hard working girls to feel stupid and as a result also drop their standards of service.

My last party was the last straw, when Ivana did not want to kiss when she finally blessed me with her company, Talida did covered bjs only, and there was a girl named Raisa who was completely below party standards both  in looks and performance. Very very sad, compared to LMP days that we were made to feel like kings. I don't know if Em is struggling to find girls, but at the moment there seems to be a void in the party market. Who knows, something else might appear...

[Jeffpike]

I used to go a fair bit. Always a good standby. Somewhere along the line it died for me. Went to Cambridge parties and although poorly organized the girls were good and up for it.