Wood issues, solutions

[Absolutman]

At fifthy something, I need some assistance in obtaining and maintaining wood. Have tried Viagra and Cialis which work with an unpredictable lag time (sometimes several hours!) and so am looking for natural or herbal alternative. Once tried a Chinese product containing l-Arginine and found it comparable. Recently ordered Drivelan said to be a mixture of extracts but received Man Pride a gel to apply half an hour before action. No effect. Suspect this Is an Internet bait and switch rip-off. Appreciate any advice from other punters either on better use of cialis and viagra or alternatives.

[Tierney]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=82996.0

Some decent advise on this thread I suspect.

[Knny]

Try Korean ginseng.  Doesn't work for everyone, but might for you and less risky to start off with.

[dubs]

How's your physical health?  Do you smoke, drink, take regular exercise?

[CityboyLondon]

Ive commented on a couple of threads this week and Il let you know what Ive said and my experiences and why I come to these conclusions. Im an anabolic steroid user, when I come off cycle, my libido and wood as you put it are often iffy for 4-5 weeks. Apart from the prescription meds I use to get myself back up and running, Ive found that Zinc, magnesium ( ZMA ) is helpful, another supplement called acetyl l tyrosine is amazing for giving me morning wood and a general sense of hightened libido and powerful erections.
If I use viagra I usually pop a 50mg pill 30 or so minutes before I invite a girl over, dosent seem to effect my ejaculation like some people say it does but everyone is different. Never had a problem maintaining wood after a viagra, effects usually last for 3-4 hours.

[Absolutman]

Thanks guys for your reactions. The other thread is more about use of porn and masturbation two things I am trying to avoid. Not easy as at one stage the served a scene setters with the OH who is still a looker btw. Have tried Korean Ginseng, no effect at all not even on energy levels. Yep I probably need to work out more, I just find it so boring doing weights and cardio. On health, I am generally fatigued as I have sleep apnea. So wondering if alongside no porn, no wanking, more exercise, better sleep there is something else to pick up from the herb store. Again thanks for the advice so far.

[CityboyLondon]

Pop down to the health store today, pick up zinc, magnesium, acetyl l tyrosine and vitamin B, sounds alot but in all fairness It will cost you about £15.

Forget all these herbs and chinese stuff etc, its all for show.

Barring that, regular exercise is honestly key, working out increases testosterone and as we all know, thats never a bad thing

[GreyDave]

   Mid 50`s myself and while its ok with loads of encouragement 25mg of the blue stuff helps greatly empty tum water /soft drinks only 20 hrs before  30 min before action I take a bit...

A few years ago there was a Herbal V but they changed the ingredents and the last few times I used it it was crap tried some of that Chinese stuff from Charring X rd shops well iffy Kamagra worked a treat but head ache     I have done and taken all that fitness bollocks and in fact I just put on a bit of muscle weight and was more hungry  (and tired) In fact when doing push ups one day the OH at the time said " if you've the energy for that you can shag me again" ...nuf said I did but was too knackered to punt in that relationship    The Blue stuff causes with me a lack of sensation and I take longer which is good and bad at 55 I am finding second pop takes longer and the break in between is 2hrs for it to happened I can get up again with pill in 20 min or so but no finish 
One of the best things about this site is you can find out that what is happening to you as you age, as  has already happened to others informing us of their ways of dealing with it.. Yes I am sure there are 70-80 year olds out who can still poke for England un aided ...But they seem to be the exception to the rule. I have never heard any civey mates say they were finding that getting hard was a problem chaps don't want to say this face to face Mind you I have not heard any one civy say I did 3 this morning at walk ups and then shagged the OH arnt those pills great 

[SUMO61]

At fifthy something, I need some assistance in obtaining and maintaining wood. Have tried Viagra and Cialis which work with an unpredictable lag time (sometimes several hours!) and so am looking for natural or herbal alternative. Once tried a Chinese product containing l-Arginine and found it comparable. Recently ordered Drivelan said to be a mixture of extracts but received Man Pride a gel to apply half an hour before action. No effect. Suspect this Is an Internet bait and switch rip-off. Appreciate any advice from other punters either on better use of cialis and viagra or alternatives.

Simple test, as performed by my GP:

Do you get early morning erections ?

Yes - your cock is fine, it's all a psychological issue.

No - it's a medical issue - so go and see your GP.

Hope this helps

 

[con-a-ser]

At fifthy something, I need some assistance in obtaining and maintaining wood. Have tried Viagra and Cialis which work with an unpredictable lag time (sometimes several hours!) and so am looking for natural or herbal alternative. Once tried a Chinese product containing l-Arginine and found it comparable. Recently ordered Drivelan said to be a mixture of extracts but received Man Pride a gel to apply half an hour before action. No effect. Suspect this Is an Internet bait and switch rip-off. Appreciate any advice from other punters either on better use of cialis and viagra or alternatives.

Kamagra Jellies I think work fast
But if you get one type & stick with it ie Viagra you will find how long it takes to get into you system
hot drinks can speed up things like dissolving & getting into you system Calis may be better as works slower & less side effects

But basically depends on things like
What you have eat
The speed of you metabolism
any other medication you are taking

It is also a case of what is easier for you to control as nothing worse then an erection & cancellation

[GreyDave]

  sorry is there a clue in your name mate do you like Vodka ... might be worth skipping it for a while I liked GT`s but found it a downer big time Gin is just Vodka with Juniper berries ...Be carefully if you take supplements I found they made me angry and a bit shakey and they were all legal from Bolland and Harrlot Also the cum levels seem to have almost stopped on second pop no amount of fruit juice ect has made any difference to this 55 year old when younger I did bukkakes and could as a guy next to me said papered my living room with gunk now lucky if its like and eye droplet   On a more sobering thought it just hit me as quite a few of my mates/circle that have hit the mid 50`s who have wives and OHs 10 years younger are now split ..with the women now  with younger men  I am starting to realise why 

[Absolutman]

Good question about the morning boner. I often wake with a boner but only because I need to urinate. Sometimes I feel a boner when dreaming and then realise when I awake that it is big morning water stick as our German friends call it. I am nervous when punting or with the OH, because of concern of not getting a boner. Hence the need for pills which help. Could have mentioned I want an alternative to Cialis because Even if I can perform I find it hard to come fucking and get little pleasure other than from seeing the lady getting pleasure. I will try the vitamin supplements and work out a bit and let you know.

[SUMO61]

Good question about the morning boner. I often wake with a boner but only because I need to urinate. Sometimes I feel a boner when dreaming and then realise when I awake that it is big morning water stick as our German friends call it. I am nervous when punting or with the OH, because of concern of not getting a boner. Hence the need for pills which help. Could have mentioned I want an alternative to Cialis because Even if I can perform I find it hard to come fucking and get little pleasure other than from seeing the lady getting pleasure. I will try the vitamin supplements and work out a bit and let you know.

Well, that's good news, the equipment works.

You, my friend, have performance anxiety and no amount of pills or vitamins is going to solve it. 

Try punting with lower goals eg don't feel you have to perform. Go for a basic, lie down, touchy massage. Tell the girl you're nervous and just relax into the massage.

Also choose the right setting, no dodgy places and give yourself plenty of time to get there. Stress kills erections, so get there early.

Try Spedra, take it on an empty stomach, thirty mins before. Sit in your car, read her AW profile, get turned on by looking at her pictures, then think about what you're going to be doing with her.

You have no obligation to perform, you're not a machine, just enjoy the touch of a woman and admire the scenery. You're paying, you can do what you like.

Sometimes I get floppy, other times I can't cum. That's normal, it's just your body having an off day.

[Two tone]

Well, that's good news, the equipment works.

You, my friend, have performance anxiety and no amount of pills or vitamins is going to solve it. 

Try punting with lower goals eg don't feel you have to perform. Go for a basic, lie down, touchy massage. Tell the girl you're nervous and just relax into the massage.

Also choose the right setting, no dodgy places and give yourself plenty of time to get there. Stress kills erections, so get there early.

Try Spedra, take it on an empty stomach, thirty mins before. Sit in your car, read her AW profile, get turned on by looking at her pictures, then think about what you're going to be doing with her.

You have no obligation to perform, you're not a machine, just enjoy the touch of a woman and admire the scenery. You're paying, you can do what you like.

Sometimes I get floppy, other times I can't cum. That's normal, it's just your body having an off day.

Excellent advice.

I have morning wood and know that it's anxiety causing me problems when I punt. I have now decided to do what SUMO61 advises and just enjoy the other aspects of being with a naked woman even though I would prefer to podge away. Funnily enough if I do a 69 etc then I rise to the occasion but that's because my mind is occupied and not thinking about getting hard.

[Turtle Z]

I don't happen to agree that just because you wake u with a boner everything is fine. It's a positive sign but I don't think it necessarily means you can maintain an erection during sex. If there is a real physiological issue then the best tip I  can give is completely cut out sugar from your diet. That may sound easy but it isn't because it means knocking alcohol on the head and anything that can spike your blood sugar levels... I'd cut out alcohol, sugar and white flour from your diet.  IMHO, most of these issues once you reach middle age are down to metabolic syndrome, so if you're overweight or already diagnosed as having diabetes and other illness related to obesity then you should fully expect your sexual health to also suffer.

[timmy1]

jelqing, have a google, had problem with cumming too early, has stopped know, my dicks grown abit too

[timmy1]

jelqing, have a google, had problems with cumming too early, has stopped know, my dicks grown abit too

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Absolutman  have you consulted your GP as yet and did he/she have an opinion as to what you ought to be doing?.

I'm ten years further down the line than yourself but these days the chemical boosters are needed to get off the launch pad.

Mind you a decent enthusiastic prossie helps no end. If you can find one of course.

Easier said than shagged;(.

[SUMO61]

I don't happen to agree that just because you wake u with a boner everything is fine. It's a positive sign but I don't think it necessarily means you can maintain an erection during sex. If there is a real physiological issue then the best tip I  can give is completely cut out sugar from your diet. That may sound easy but it isn't because it means knocking alcohol on the head and anything that can spike your blood sugar levels... I'd cut out alcohol, sugar and white flour from your diet.  IMHO, most of these issues once you reach middle age are down to metabolic syndrome, so if you're overweight or already diagnosed as having diabetes and other illness related to obesity then you should fully expect your sexual health to also suffer.

Well, that was advice from a GP. He said the mechanism worked fine, as an auto response. Blood flow was good to the right area.

Very often, some of the health issues you suggest inhibit the erection response, because of poor circulation, diabetes etc. But if the erection occurs, as normal, in the morning, it's because the circulatory system works fine.  Said a Doctor...

So, the OPs cock works, so its in his mind.

Keeping fit and eating well will help your health in general and is good advice, but won't cure a mental issue.  Plenty of fit young men out there with ED.

[GreyDave]

I don't happen to agree that just because you wake u with a boner everything is fine. It's a positive sign but I don't think it necessarily means you can maintain an erection during sex. If there is a real physiological issue then the best tip I  can give is completely cut out sugar from your diet. That may sound easy but it isn't because it means knocking alcohol on the head and anything that can spike your blood sugar levels... I'd cut out alcohol, sugar and white flour from your diet.  IMHO, most of these issues once you reach middle age are down to metabolic syndrome, so if you're overweight or already diagnosed as having diabetes and other illness related to obesity then you should fully expect your sexual health to also suffer.

     

Replies like this one from Turtle Z , ( as apposed to stuff I post   )are what makes this site invaluable to us Thanks TZ

[AgedCases]

Some of us get numbness during a bj. How can that be avoided?

[PLeisure]

Some of us get numbness during a bj. How can that be avoided?

Switch to RO, or another activity.

[Absolutman]

Given the interesting feedback and thanks again for that, I thought to add a few details which might be of general interest. As mentioned I have morning wood which dissipates after urination but that as others say is not conclusive. Pity that the more you imbibe the more you want to piss than to fuck, else beer would be the solution! Seriously, I saw not only a gp but also a urologist who tested the blood in and outflow. (ED can result from either insufficient inflow or excessive outflow resulting in failure to obtain or maintain respectively.) I have one of these so it is definitely a physiological thing which could be compounded by anxiety. So I know I need some assistance and wondered about alternatives to Viagra and Cialis of which I take the latter and 10 mg works and will try l-arginine which my health store recommended if ginseng does not help which it does not.

[The Man of Sin]

Well, here is my input. I have used a herbal alternative called Wolfberry Formula, it was out of stock recently so opted for another alternative called EL Complex.

Wolfberry Formula, tends to give me headaches unless taken on an empty stomach i.e. take it right at the beginning of the day when you get up. It can also cause a bunged up nose.

EL Complex, seems to be better in the result that you want i.e. a very firm erection and less noticeable symptoms. I have had one night when I could not get to sleep the fact I was getting hard every two minutes might have had something to do with it.

[Turtle Z]

Well, that was advice from a GP. He said the mechanism worked fine, as an auto response. Blood flow was good to the right area.

Very often, some of the health issues you suggest inhibit the erection response, because of poor circulation, diabetes etc. But if the erection occurs, as normal, in the morning, it's because the circulatory system works fine.  Said a Doctor...

So, the OPs cock works, so its in his mind.

Keeping fit and eating well will help your health in general and is good advice, but won't cure a mental issue.  Plenty of fit young men out there with ED.

The problem is that we expect GP's to be experts in everything and they're not. Many are still prescribing statins, something I predicted many years ago would turn out to be an absolute scandal since the statistics prove that overall 'all causes' mortality rate actually increases in the statin taking demographic. In fact only this week reports were published stating that a Mediterranean diet was actually more effective at lowering cholesterol without the side effects. Many GP's are even still prescribing low fat, high carb diets despite the fact that its now conventional accepted wisdom that sugar and not fat is the cause of obesity.

The reason I don't agree with the morning wood hypothesis is because the triggers are different. Morning wood is a natural physiological response designed to stop you pissing the bed; caused by a full bladder putting pressure on the prostate. Do you maintain wood once that pressure is relieved? It's rather too simplistic to say that it's all in the mind just because you manage a piss hard because you don't have the same powerful physiological trigger when it comes to sex. As I said, I think many men who manage morning wood won't necessarily manage to maintain an erection during sex.  I have to say though that I'm partly with you on the psychological impact. If I don't find the women sexually attractive then there ain't a lot she can do to get me hard so this has simply narrowed down the field for me. However, if you're overweight or even obese, drink a lot, smoke and generally lead an unhealthy lifestyle then the psychology should not be your primary focus. Neither can you counteract the effects of an unhealthy lifestyle by taking supplements.

Cutting out sugar and white flour will have a pronounced effect on your general health as well as your sexual health. If you want to know more about metabolic syndrome then watch Dr Robert Lustig's lecture on the subject; he is in my opinion the worlds leading expert on this subject.

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[Monsieur69]

I am 68. So quite old for a punter. Ref Statins. My male Doc and I get on very well. He prescribes me Viagra at £8 for 8 tabs and checks me out once a year to make sure I am ok to take them. He told me 5 years ago that I should be on statins. I said from my reading on Internet I disagree. He said - so do I but I have to tow the NHS line and recommend them. You are better off keeping your weight down, no smoking and very little sugar. The drug companies should all be taxed to the hilt as they make fortunes out of the NHS and other organisations.
Ref general health and Wood issues. I work out or cycle every day and with the aid of Viagra I have few problems in the sack.
I find that alcohol and caffeine intake make me less potent and I abstain if I want to be really hard. Despite all this I can only cum once in an hour appointment and my recovery time is about 90 minutes as opposed to about 9 minutes when I was 20 yo. Avoid porn and wanking and if you are a regular, supply your own ultra thin condoms. Some of the WGs condom's are very thick and you get little feeling.

[Turtle Z]

I am 68. So quite old for a punter. Ref Statins. My male Doc and I get on very well. He prescribes me Viagra at £8 for 8 tabs and checks me out once a year to make sure I am ok to take them. He told me 5 years ago that I should be on statins. I said from my reading on Internet I disagree. He said - so do I but I have to tow the NHS line and recommend them. You are better off keeping your weight down, no smoking and very little sugar. The drug companies should all be taxed to the hilt as they make fortunes out of the NHS and other organisations.
Ref general health and Wood issues. I work out or cycle every day and with the aid of Viagra I have few problems in the sack.
I find that alcohol and caffeine intake make me less potent and I abstain if I want to be really hard. Despite all this I can only cum once in an hour appointment and my recovery time is about 90 minutes as opposed to about 9 minutes when I was 20 yo. Avoid porn and wanking and if you are a regular, supply your own ultra thin condoms. Some of the WGs condom's are very thick and you get little feeling.

Good post containing good advice for the older punter!