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Author Topic: Romanian Trafficker Sought  (Read 1651 times)


Offline smiths

Proof at last that many of these "groups" are run by vicious pimps, this guy has gone into hiding in my area.  :scare:

http://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/one_of_britain_s_most_dangerous_foreign_suspects_living_in_havering_police_warn_1_1852770

Please provide the proof with links to actual convictions that its "many" of these groups and the women are forced to become WGs against their free wills.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Please provide the proof .

I don't have to provide proof, this is a punting forum not The Old Bailey.     :hi:


Offline smiths

I don't have to provide proof, this is a punting forum not The Old Bailey.     :hi:

So when you posted "many" you were merely guessing. In fact you have no idea if its many or not anymore than i do.

Offline James999

Proof at last that many of these "groups" are run by vicious pimps,

Not at all, the article says he is

"sought for a range of serious crimes, including alleged murder, rape and violent robbery"

The use of trafficking in yoru headline Jim makes you sound like one of those politicians spinning a story  :music:

Offline Jimmyredcab

From the article -------------

Romanian Constantin Niciu, 34, who is wanted in connection with abducting two men who refused to assist in trafficking women, is being chased by police here and abroad.
His alleged victims were tied up, beaten with a plank of wood and their mobile phones and car stolen.


Where do you think his girls were working if not in London.  ?????????????????????

Offline James999

Why would they need to be trafficked to the UK, Romanians are legally entitled to come here  :hi:

Offline foresight

Why would they need to be trafficked to the UK, Romanians are legally entitled to come here  :hi:

From the UN Convention:
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the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal of organs;

So you can shift an English person from Doncaster to Swindon and it is still trafficking. Even with their consent!

Offline Jimmyredcab


So you can shift an English person from Doncaster to Swindon and it is still trafficking. Even with their consent!

Not quite the same thing -------------- but of course you know that already.  :rolleyes:

Girls arriving here unaided would have no idea where to start, that is especially true when they have very little money.

There have also been reports of girls being tricked into thinking they were going to work as nannys and then forced into prostitution.

Offline foresight

Not quite the same thing -------------- but of course you know that already.  :rolleyes:

Just pointing out that the definition of trafficking covers a lot of activities.

Offline yumyum3

It seems to me that there is a growing amount of evidence on this forum and in articles such as the one Jimmy's posted that Romanian groups should be treated with suspicion for reasons that should be self evident. Indeed, there were two ladies on here recently writing about the way pimps from Romania speaking English have power over new women that do not and also they way the ladies are worked and have to hand over large amounts of their earnings.
Now I do not want to contribute to hyperbole about "trafficking" but I am not writing here about a narrow definition of trafficking but a wider one where there are cultural implications and language barriers that can be exploited by people; this also holds true in other work, such as domestic service where families from different cultures living in this country are able to confiscate passports and make people virtual slaves in the house of the host. As far as I'm concerned anything that can be done to expose these people and discover the truth is to welcomed as if this is going on it is in neither the WG's or punter's interest that it continue unchecked.
I repeat, I am aware of the dangers of exaggerating trafficking but there is a wider issue here that I do believe is a real problem  :)

Offline mon8y_man2012

This is why I prefer to see a independent English girl and avoid agencies and parlours etc.

Offline yumyum3

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This is why I prefer to see a independent English girl and avoid agencies and parlours etc.

Yeah, right  :rolleyes:
Just to make it clear. My last post was not a generalisation about women from outside England. It was very specifically about whether there is evidence of Romanian groups exploiting Romanian women and ripping punters off. That is what this thread is about.

Offline skittish

Yeah, right  :rolleyes:
Just to make it clear. My last post was not a generalisation about women from outside England. It was very specifically about whether there is evidence of Romanian groups exploiting Romanian women and ripping punters off. That is what this thread is about.

I think you are right there are a few positive reports for a handful of Romanian girls but they seem to have been buried by the increasing number of negatives. It would suggest IMO that a good number of them operate in a different manner or are managed differently to other groups.

I personally haven't seen a Romanian SP yet but I and a few others here have asked for info on a few that have caught my eye and in each case I've been advised against. I think with the exception of one all my punts to date have been with Polish girls. I only felt a little intimidated on one occasion but they all did what it said on the tin and gave me my full time.


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