Flying the flag for Romanians

[Jerboa]

To give Romanians there due, without them many German saunaclubs would of closed down, or barely stocked with girls charging higher rates. As Hotblondie said the northern Romanians are lighter skinned, and in my experience almost look Germanic or similar to Hungarians.

[Stoking]

In all honesty I find my shit punt rate to be mixed between all the difference ethnicities.

One thing I would say is EE girls are much more likely to state the "cum twice per hour" statement. Concerning all the race stuff going around, as being of mixed blood myself with a certain EE clan, and working with many pure EE's in the past, I tend to find english people much worse and two faced. Even then I get the feeling it's because day to day I meet far more fully english people and it makes it more likely. Most EE's are more than aware of their poor rep, similar reason why many EE girls refuse to see fellow EE's.

[jikthesik]

Romani are not the same as ethnic Romanians. Romania just happens to have one of the biggest Roma populations of Europe and the names are similar, but they're not linked in any way apart from the Roma who live there.

Most of the Romanian immigration to the UK is of ethnic Romanians and not ethnic Roma from Romania (confusing I know), so the chances of seeing a Romanian Roma on AW are probably quite slim. Although another confusing element is that some Romanians have quite dark skin which is similar to the dark skin of Roma (who originate from the subcontinent and migrated to Europe 100s of years ago) but I think this is due to a.) the climate of Romania. b.) ethnic intermixing between Romani and ethnic Romanians. c.) when Romania was ruled by the Romans (after whom the country and people are named) a large amount of Arab soldiers (who obviously had darker skin) were stationed there and mixed with the indigenous population.

[jikthesik]

To give Romanians there due, without them many German saunaclubs would of closed down, or barely stocked with girls charging higher rates. As Hotblondie said the northern Romanians are lighter skinned, and in my experience almost look Germanic or similar to Hungarians.

There's a huge Hungarian population in Romania, I think it's pushing 2 million. Transylvania used to be part of Hungary but was annexed by Romania (along with its population) in, I think, 1918.

There was also a large ethnic German population but almost all of them left/were kicked out after WW2.

The Slavic element is the main reason for the light skinned/blonde looking Romanians.

[Leveve]

Hello all, I thought it would be helpful to share my opinion about romanian gypsies / rroma people.
We all know they came from India about 1000 years ago, the similarities between them still exist and can be easily seen:
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Unfortunately they brought with them all sorts of bad habits like stealing, conning people, begging, most of them are also lazy and preffer to beg than to work and their habits are spread across Europe, bringing a bad name to all Romanians.
I`m not saying that all gypsies are bad, but most of them. Some integrated and managed to get jobs, or got famous like the daughter of a famous gipsy singer: External Link/Members Only but they are not many.

As for confusing gypsies with romanians, thats easy, as over centuries they got whiter and their facial features got to look more like european ones.
This is a romanian brunette from Oltenia region (for some, she might look gypsy : External Link/Members Only
And these are white romanian girls, from northern Romania, Moldova region: External Link/Members Only

Southern half of Romania has a population with dark hair & skin due to higher temperatures, similar looking with italians for example, while the northern population has whiter skin and hair and bigger build than southerners.

As for the attitude of some romanian wg`s, gypsy or not, in my opinion it comes from poor understanding of what escorting means in UK, as in Romania is something to be very ashamed of and it`s also not spoken of. Most of them have pimps as they don`t have the knowledge to start working here, how to rent, how to obtain NIN, open a bank account, etc, so they preffer to split earnings with a pimp who takes care of those things and who doesn`t care to teach them to be nice, to provide the services stated in their like list (most of them have no idea what`s in there).

I apologize for the lenght of my post, I hope some will find it useful

Interesing post 
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Whoever the Romanians were originally they've had Romans, Goths, Huns, Slavs, Turks, Bulgars, Germans coming in at different points in history. Probably depositing no small amount of their DNA in the process when its all added up. The Romany are only a small portion of the countries population then? I saw a very good Romanian prossie and she was scathing about the shite Rom prossies and how backwards they are.

Sounds like Gypsies maintain their proud cultural inheritance while integrating well and adding value to the local community wherever they go then.

[hotblondie28]

Transilvania was  Romanian land for thousands of years,  up until the descendants of Attila the Hun, current Hungarians stole it from Romania. Now its back and all their claims are just a  pathetic attempt.  Same happened with part of the Romanian region called Moldova, the Russians took it and its still under their wings.
Romania was the most robbed country in Europe since the romans conquered part of it around 2000 Years ago as it had everything, from gold mines to  rich crops and everybody wanted a piece of it, the romans, the Ottomans, the huns/Hungarians, the Slavs/ Russians, everybody.
And despiting all they stole (the tons of gold the Russians and Germans stole in the 2nd ww2 for example)  and all the influences in looks, language the conquerors brought, Romania remains traditional (maybe to preserve its identity) and   still has a national treasure (which is currently kept in London )
I'm sure anyone interested can Google for more information, I just did a short resume

[vt]

As with every nationality/ethnicity, there's good & bad. Romanian, Roma, British, English...no-one has a monopoly on crap service.

Some of my best punting experiences have been with passionate Romanian girls, I've also had some bad ones, but not worse than some of the flaky Brit girls I've met.

As ever, it's good to be guided by reports on here...as well as occasionally TOFTT and reporting back with any findings! 

[Ali Katt]

Romani are not the same as ethnic Romanians. Romania just happens to have one of the biggest Roma populations of Europe and the names are similar, but they're not linked in any way apart from the Roma who live there.

Most of the Romanian immigration to the UK is of ethnic Romanians and not ethnic Roma from Romania (confusing I know), so the chances of seeing a Romanian Roma on AW are probably quite slim. Although another confusing element is that some Romanians have quite dark skin which is similar to the dark skin of Roma (who originate from the subcontinent and migrated to Europe 100s of years ago) but I think this is due to a.) the climate of Romania. b.) ethnic intermixing between Romani and ethnic Romanians. c.) when Romania was ruled by the Romans (after whom the country and people are named) a large amount of Arab soldiers (who obviously had darker skin) were stationed there and mixed with the indigenous population.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but these are gypsies and there's thousands of them in the UK:
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[Jerboa]

There's a huge Hungarian population in Romania, I think it's pushing 2 million. Transylvania used to be part of Hungary but was annexed by Romania (along with its population) in, I think, 1918.

There was also a large ethnic German population but almost all of them left/were kicked out after WW2.

The Slavic element is the main reason for the light skinned/blonde looking Romanians.

Correct.

[peter purves]

There's a huge Hungarian population in Romania, I think it's pushing 2 million. Transylvania used to be part of Hungary but was annexed by Romania (along with its population) in, I think, 1918.

There was also a large ethnic German population but almost all of them left/were kicked out after WW2.

The Slavic element is the main reason for the light skinned/blonde looking Romanians.

...Had me thinking that I have never engaged with a blonde haired Romanian WGs always the dark haired type but not necessarily dark skinned, mainly 'White'.

OOOps I forgot to add - on flying the flag 

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[davidmatthewsII]

For punting I have to say the worst nationality are...... The British Girls. Some have been good i will admit, however whenever I have had a bad experience its been with a British chick. By and large Romanians are respectful and polite. Take care of the client, good work ethic and exeptionally clean. true there are the rough ones like anyone but i'd rather have a blind punt with a Romanian girl than a British one. As a whole they are certainly alot more attractive than the British girls are and that goes for most girls from the EU region. It may be down to the fact they came here to make money and are alot more serious about it so i.e things like appearance and etiquette are taken care of to a far higher degree than some Brit girl who's just looking to get the next 50 quid in her pocket. the same goes for Czech girls and the Hungarians too. Americans and Canadians that I have punted with. Sorry to say the British girls are usually way way down the list.

[cat1144]

All indigenous Romanians are white Caucasians. Any admixture from the gypsies or north Africans in Roman times into the Romanian population will be minimal.
If they have darker skin,that will be just a tan or natural olive skin tone some southern euros have.

The fair haired, blue eyed variety is just a natural part of the gene pool in southern Europe..

Just like you get the odd blond haired blue eyed Spaniard, Italian, Greek, in an otherwise dark haired population

There may be more blonds in the north of Romanian than the south due to gene flow from the Slavic nations to the north...much like northern Italians and Spaniards tend on average to be lighter than their southern compatriots

[Brazilian Martian]

For punting I have to say the worst nationality are...... The British Girls. Some have been good i will admit, however whenever I have had a bad experience its been with a British chick. By and large Romanians are respectful and polite. Take care of the client, good work ethic and exeptionally clean. true there are the rough ones like anyone but i'd rather have a blind punt with a Romanian girl than a British one. As a whole they are certainly alot more attractive than the British girls are and that goes for most girls from the EU region. It may be down to the fact they came here to make money and are alot more serious about it so i.e things like appearance and etiquette are taken care of to a far higher degree than some Brit girl who's just looking to get the next 50 quid in her pocket. the same goes for Czech girls and the Hungarians too. Americans and Canadians that I have punted with. Sorry to say the British girls are usually way way down the list.

Then either you do not read the reviews on this site as a majority of the negatives in the london section tend to be romanian. Stats don't lie also to say British girls are worse than romanians your head must be in cuckoo land

[davidmatthewsII]

Then either you do not read the reviews on this site as a majority of the negatives in the london section tend to be romanian. Stats don't lie also to say British girls are worse than romanians your head must be in cuckoo land

Its personal experience. Thats what i've found. London maybe different but i can say with all honesty i'd rather take a punt with a foreign girl than a British one. Certainly in the looks department Romanian girls always are so much more attractive than British girls as a whole. For some strange reason the Czech girls look amazing every time ive seen one.

[Ali Katt]

Its personal experience. Thats what i've found. London maybe different but i can say with all honesty i'd rather take a punt with a foreign girl than a British one. Certainly in the looks department Romanian girls always are so much more attractive than British girls as a whole. For some strange reason the Czech girls look amazing every time ive seen one.

Personal preference regarding looks. Not a fan of dark eyes and dark skin, so that rules out most gypos for me. As has been said before the women escorting are not the representation of British or even EE. The best looking women are civvies.

[davidmatthewsII]

Personal preference regarding looks. Not a fan of dark eyes and dark skin, so that rules out most gypos for me. As has been said before the women escorting are not the representation of British or even EE. The best looking women are civvies.

Well yeah its personal preference. I really love the look of dark eyes and black hair. Indian/asian girls as a whole just don't do it for me at all but dark Romanian, Italians Spannish, Mexican chics I think look fantastic. Horses for courses I think. Can honestly say though i've not met a British girl civvie girl attractive since my days at university 20 years ago. racking my brains here but no never met or seen one that ive though was worth the time and effort.

[peter purves]

Then either you do not read the reviews on this site as a majority of the negatives in the london section tend to be romanian. Stats don't lie also to say British girls are worse than romanians your head must be in cuckoo land

In his defence, here and outside of this forum White British WGs have been heavily criticised. Again, I have never really understood it but thenI  do not equate 'race'/nationality etc and behaviour

[peter purves]

All indigenous Romanians are white Caucasians. Any admixture from the gypsies or north Africans in Roman times into the Romanian population will be minimal.
If they have darker skin,that will be just a tan or natural olive skin tone some southern euros have.

The fair haired, blue eyed variety is just a natural part of the gene pool in southern Europe..

Just like you get the odd blond haired blue eyed Spaniard, Italian, Greek, in an otherwise dark haired population

There may be more blonds in the north of Romanian than the south due to gene flow from the Slavic nations to the north...much like northern Italians and Spaniards tend on average to be lighter than their southern compatriots

Just to add most of the ethnic Romanians are also 'White Caucasians'.

Romania has been quite a considerable melting pot. One of the reasons why I was reluctant to accept the term 'White Romanian' is that
in former times anthropology would conceive of the rest of their population as 'Dark Whites' and it also refers to an out-moded way of thinking with regard to populations.

[davidmatthewsII]

Just to add most of the ethnic Romanians are also 'White Caucasians'.

Romania has been quite a considerable melting pot. One of the reasons why I was reluctant to accept the term 'White Romanian' is that
in former times anthropology would conceive of the rest of their population as 'Dark Whites' and it also refers to an out-moded way of thinking with regard to populations.

This is starting to feel like a ' white blonde girls are always more attractive' kinda thread now. Am i right or wrong?

[peter purves]

This is starting to feel like a ' white blonde girls are always more attractive' kinda thread now. Am i right or wrong?

Oh sorry!! 

[HughJardon]

This is starting to feel like a ' white blonde girls are always more attractive' kinda thread now. Am i right or wrong?

Its eye of the beholder stuff mate, you may fancy dark haired tanned skinned girls more. I must admit though after reading this thread and thinking back, that the best Romanian punts Ive had, well they have been with the lighter skinned blonde haired blue eyed providers who when questioned have said they were of Hungarian or Germanic ethnicity. Maybe the cream rises to the top ? Theres no getting away from Romanian escorts in this country but wish more would go Independent, I still dont like the pimp controlled side of things and never will.

[davidmatthewsII]

Its eye of the beholder stuff mate, you may fancy dark haired tanned skinned girls more. I must admit though after reading this thread and thinking back, that the best Romanian punts Ive had, well they have been with the lighter skinned blonde haired blue eyed providers who when questioned have said they were of Hungarian or Germanic ethnicity. Maybe the cream rises to the top ? Theres no getting away from Romanian escorts in this country but wish more would go Independent, I still dont like the pimp controlled side of things and never will.

No i'm not offended and there's no need for sorry. Without giving too much away i'm as white as a bleached bedsheet myself and when I did have a full head of hair it was pretty blonde so it not a personal slight i'm taking. Just i'm noticing that things like  'the cream rises to the top' and discussions about white european admixture seem to be taking this thread into a rather shady place, you guys know what I mean right? I'm not wishing to sound preachy but its beginning to be very much like the mudpeople vs the europeans and eloi vs the morlocks H.G Wells vibe happening. That earlier post showing Romani asylum seekers ect. I'm not making accusations here but i just couldn't help but notice.

[peter purves]

No i'm not offended and there's no need for sorry. Without giving too much away i'm as white as a bleached bedsheet myself and when I did have a full head of hair it was pretty blonde so it not a personal slight i'm taking. Just i'm noticing that things like  'the cream rises to the top' and discussions about white european admixture seem to be taking this thread into a rather shady place, you guys know what I mean right? I'm not wishing to sound preachy but its beginning to be very much like the mudpeople vs the europeans and eloi vs the morlocks H.G Wells vibe happening. That earlier post showing Romani asylum seekers ect. I'm not making accusations here but i just couldn't help but notice.

If the aforesaid is what you meant DavidmatthewsII...??

Then I agree with your sentiments and much of what I have said on this thread has been a 'challenge' to such thoughts

[davidmatthewsII]

If the aforesaid is what you meant DavidmatthewsII...??

Then I agree with your sentiments and much of what I have said on this thread has been a 'challenge' to such thoughts

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[E.L. Wisty]

There are excellent Romanian WGs. There are crap Romanian WGs.

There are excellent British WGs. There are crap British WGs.

[davidmatthewsII]

There are excellent Romanian WGs. There are crap Romanian WGs.

There are excellent British WGs. There are crap British WGs.

Thats all very fair but I must admit after all thats been said it would be great to get a grip as to what exactly peoples sterotypes of Romanians, in particualar ethnic Romani's is so negative? Things like the cream rises to the top. Its rather inflamatory honestly. I'm not condemning it as I have said in my experience British girls both WG and civvies is largely very negative. What i'd like to find out is why the perception of Romanians is so negative beyond that of our buddy Brazillian Martian posting pictures of impoverished asylum seekers, Beyond the stereotype what lies beneath it? I'm genuinely curious and not being sarcastic at all. I mean someone has said here that Romanians have a 'darker dirtier skin tone' 'a yellow color'  if someone here could call it what I think it is it would clear all this up rather nicely. I just don't want to be the one that jumps to that conclusion and gets set upon for it.

[E.L. Wisty]

Thats all very fair but I must admit after all thats been said it would be great to get a grip as to what exactly peoples sterotypes of Romanians, in particualar ethnic Romani's is so negative? Things like the cream rises to the top. Its rather inflamatory honestly. I'm not condemning it as I have said in my experience British girls both WG and civvies is largely very negative. What i'd like to find out is why the perception of Romanians is so negative beyond that of our buddy Brazillian Martian posting pictures of impoverished asylum seekers, Beyond the stereotype what lies beneath it? I'm genuinely curious and not being sarcastic at all.

The thing is there are a lot of profiles on AW of ladies which have no feedback, have cut and paste advertising, poorly worded explanations of what services they offer, and a likes list which appears that they have just ticked the boxes. Unfortunately the majority of those profiles are of WGs who are Romanian. The service that they provide, if they are ever booked, are in the main... Crap (mainly they are never interested in providing the punter a great service, and ensuring their money is well spent). Some of them even do Bait and Switch (though Thai WGs also specialise in this).

This is why Romanian's get such a bad reputation. I personally have had bad punts from Romanians. However one of my favourite WGs of all time is Romanian.

That is why I have mentioned that there are bad Romanian WGs and there are good Romanian WGs. However I will concede that finding an excellent Romanian WG can be a needle in a haystack. It was just pure luck that I hit upon that Romanian WG who turned out to be a regular of mine.

This is the reason

[davidmatthewsII]

Take a good look at adultwork as alikatt has stated you can spot them a mile off darker dirtier skin tone a kind of off yellow colour.

Thats all well and good. I appreciate your perspective and its constructive. I hear you on that and to and extent I agree. Its the type of thing that was quoted above that i'm getting unsure about. I personally prefer someone who has these views to come out and say something like. 'i don't like Romanians, theyre dark skinned and I have predjudice views on people of this type ethnicity, dont like em and don't want them in my country'. that would explain it and I wouldn't question it then as it is what it is. Its gotten all very convoluted in this racial admixture, they're white but not white enough for me kinda talk. Get rid of the bullshit and just say what you mean, I for one am totally fine with that kinda thing.

[peter purves]

Thats all well and good. I appreciate your perspective and its constructive. I hear you on that and to and extent I agree. Its the type of thing that was quoted above that i'm getting unsure about. I personally prefer someone who has these views to come out and say something like. 'i don't like Romanians, theyre dark skinned and I have predjudice views on people of this type ethnicity, dont like em and don't want them in my country'. that would explain it and I wouldn't question it then as it is what it is. Its gotten all very convoluted in this racial admixture, they're white but not white enough for me kinda talk. Get rid of the bullshit and just say what you mean, I for one am totally fine with that kinda thing.

It has got convoluted, but the initial argument was that the WGs in London are not 'White Romanians' but rather 'dark skinned Gypsies' who belong to another 'race'.

My position was there is no such thing as 'White Romanians' in the context it was being used.

No-one for instance has suggested the above in bold (ie they're White but not White enough for me kinda talk'). Though I do concede there has been some unflattering comments about Gypsies.

[davidmatthewsII]

Thats exactly what i'm trying to say. If you read what redcrab has said and what Brazilian Martian has said why not just say 'I'm an outlandish racist who is superior to these kinda people' I'm paraphrasing but all that talk of european admixture and pictures of asylum seekers on the streets is just too dumb to register. Were in a forum that's talking about paying girls for sex, i doubt anyone here is highbrow enough to have a degree in anthropology and effectively answer that kind of question. My point was drop the pseudo science crap and just say what you mean.
There are alot of Romanian girls who get controlled by pimps and all the boxes get ticked and you get ripped off I get it. Its a true and valid point, thats the dowsnside I know. But i stand by the fact if it was a choice between a blind (indie) punt I'd still go for any European, American, Mexican, South American girl over a Brit girl any day of the week. Just to clarify my point.

[JW.Bobbitt]

There are alot of Romanian girls who get controlled by pimps and all the boxes get ticked and you get ripped off I get it. Its a true and valid point, thats the dowsnside I know. But i stand by the fact if it was a choice between a blind (indie) punt I'd still go for any
European, American, Mexican, South American girl over a Brit girl any day of the week.

I have to agree with all your points and it does get me a little narked with the almost continual 'all Romanians are shit' (dark or white) generalisations.
There are good and bad and is with any other punt, doing you homework e.g. sussing out poor profiles, blatantly bullshit AW FB.... is crucial.

And as for your in bold (above) preference, I concur, when it comes to selection criteria (Brits not totally disregarded, but well down on the list).

Amongst the many reasons e.g. ease of booking, the one thing I appreciate is the more openness in discussion (possible naivety on their part),
You only have to see the constant bitching on Saafe (and to a lesser degree UKE),accusing punters on 'prying', if the topic of discussion strays from the latest DNA result on Jeremy Kyle or chitchat about he weather...

I am in awe (when reading some reviews) of the extraordinary sexual gymnastics that some punters achieve - I would need a KFC family bucket of Viagra and a portable respirator to achieve them,
so a punt for me is marked as 'excellent' if the  basic stuff is achieved AND there is some marginally intelligent chat.

[Brazilian Martian]

Thats exactly what i'm trying to say. If you read what redcrab has said and what Brazilian Martian has said why not just say 'I'm an outlandish racist who is superior to these kinda people' I'm paraphrasing but all that talk of european admixture and pictures of asylum seekers on the streets is just too dumb to register. Were in a forum that's talking about paying girls for sex, i doubt anyone here is highbrow enough to have a degree in anthropology and effectively answer that kind of question. My point was drop the pseudo science crap and just say what you mean.
There are alot of Romanian girls who get controlled by pimps and all the boxes get ticked and you get ripped off I get it. Its a true and valid point, thats the dowsnside I know. But i stand by the fact if it was a choice between a blind (indie) punt I'd still go for any European, American, Mexican, South American girl over a Brit girl any day of the week. Just to clarify my point.

Hahaha the nerve calling me a racist thank god this twat has been banned he has no idea what racism. Is I've faced it a few times in my life and discussing romanians and how the gypsie ones have a lot of negative reviews on a punting site makes me a racist then so be it. 

[vw]

Hahaha the nerve calling me a racist thank god this twat has been banned he has no idea what racism. Is I've faced it a few times in my life and discussing romanians and how the gypsie ones have a lot of negative reviews on a punting site makes me a racist then so be it. 

No it makes you  an Argentinian Alien  in my eyes   

[Brazilian Martian]

No it makes you  an Argentinian Alien  in my eyes   

Anything but a Argentinian they are the definition of scum imho 

[sloopjohnb]

However one of my favourite WGs of all time is Romanian.

That is why I have mentioned that there are bad Romanian WGs and there are good Romanian WGs. However I will concede that finding an excellent Romanian WG can be a needle in a haystack. It was just pure luck that I hit upon that Romanian WG who turned out to be a regular of mine.

How about a review? Help those of us who aren't so lucky.

[E.L. Wisty]

How about a review? Help those of us who aren't so lucky.

Like to the profile of whom I'm on about;

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[Ali Katt]

Thats exactly what i'm trying to say. If you read what redcrab has said and what Brazilian Martian has said why not just say 'I'm an outlandish racist who is superior to these kinda people' I'm paraphrasing but all that talk of european admixture and pictures of asylum seekers on the streets is just too dumb to register. Were in a forum that's talking about paying girls for sex, i doubt anyone here is highbrow enough to have a degree in anthropology and effectively answer that kind of question. My point was drop the pseudo science crap and just say what you mean.
There are alot of Romanian girls who get controlled by pimps and all the boxes get ticked and you get ripped off I get it. Its a true and valid point, thats the dowsnside I know. But i stand by the fact if it was a choice between a blind (indie) punt I'd still go for any European, American, Mexican, South American girl over a Brit girl any day of the week. Just to clarify my point.

I know he's banned, but I was away. This is the typical response cry racist and ignore the elephant in the room. Romanians created their bad reputation all on their own. Pretending to be Latin, Spanish, Italian even British as they know they have such a bad reputation. And then there's mis-advertising DFK, OWO, even cum twice. And let's not forget the problems in their community, the pickpocketing sign I posted on another thread wasn't posted in Spanish, Japanese or Welsh it was written in Romanian and placed in London. That's not to say all Romanians are bad, but these stereotypes exist for a reason.

[peter purves]

I know he's banned, but I was away. This is the typical response cry racist and ignore the elephant in the room. Romanians created their bad reputation all on their own. Pretending to be Latin, Spanish, Italian even British as they know they have such a bad reputation. And then there's mis-advertising DFK, OWO, even cum twice. And let's not forget the problems in their community, the pickpocketing sign I posted on another thread wasn't posted in Spanish, Japanese or Welsh it was written in Romanian and placed in London. That's not to say all Romanians are bad, but these stereotypes exist for a reason.

Just for clarification purposes what type are you referring to here?

[Brazilian Martian]

Just for clarification purposes what type are you referring to here?

Read the last two pages you will then catch up

[peter purves]

Cheers BM,

I ask because it appears, for the very first time that Ali Katt is suggesting ALL Romanians this time round, as opposed to Gypsy Romanians only.

[vw]

Cheers BM,

I ask because it appears, for the very first time that Ali Katt is suggesting ALL Romanians this time round, as opposed to Gypsy Romanians only.

The normal ones are partyingoing celebrating the roma have gone and don't have time to escort.

[Ali Katt]

Cheers BM,

I ask because it appears, for the very first time that Ali Katt is suggesting ALL Romanians this time round, as opposed to Gypsy Romanians only.

Romanians as a whole even the non-gypsy types will be stigmatised because of the actions of a group. The same as Thais have a reputation for bait and switch, but people are still happy to see them as they mainly provide a better than average service.