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Author Topic: Flying the flag for Romanians  (Read 4355 times)

Offline Jimmyredcab

I used to be the same but there are a few good romanians out there but they tend to move about so it's hard to keep track of them. But with more negative reviews than positives I understand your stance  :hi:

I am sure there are some very friendly pit bull dogs out there ---------------- but if I don't stroke any pit bulls then I won't get bitten.    :drinks:

Offline Hertsgent

Have a look at it in terms of numbers if say the majority of punters have sex with 100 English women and 4 gypsies then of course statistically the English will be worse. If it was reversed and the majority of punters see mainly Romani then it will be different again.

I get your point, except.....I've probably punted with 10 times more Romanians than Brits....and the worst experiences have all been British girls.....hence I rarely go British....

I've probably punted with 10 times more Romanians than Brits....and the worst experiences have all been British girls.....hence I rarely go British....

Snap (but not Rom only - I love the variety of EE) and I find the 'jumping though hoops' to arrange a meeting with an indigenous, a pain

As has been mentioned, this subject has been debated for years and despite the numerous polite pointers/suggestions as "How to get the best from a Romanian"
there will always be those who go into a meeting with the preconceived notion 'that all Romanians are shit' and the self-defeating prophesy comes true.
Then the others will simply not bother and they have every right to do so (but it does seem to be odd to then criticise, without experiencing.

Personally, I have now become loath to do reviews on the most successful Rom punts, as the only 'suggestion' I made, resulted in a flurry of negatives from other punters, who (for whatever reason) were unable to receive the same services I did.


When people are critical of Romanians it's maonly the gypsies the ones that you see trying to sell the big issue or loitering around marble arch...

...I am not sure if this is true generally. I know there are some who tend to differntiate but I think they are in the minority

...I am not sure if this is true generally. I know there are some who tend to differntiate but I think they are in the minority

Are you on about members here  :unknown:

Are you on about members here  :unknown:

Both actually, here and the British population.

Personally, I think most Romanian WGs in London at least are not Romani (Gypsy). Well that has been my experience.

Then you have the problem of identifying a Romani as well as not all are from Romania also.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2016, 08:32:54 PM by peter purves »

Both actually, here and the British population.

Personally, I think most Romanian WGs in London at least are not Romani (Gypsy). Well that has been my experience.

Take a good look at adultwork as alikatt has stated you can spot them a mile off darker dirtier skin tone a kind of off yellow colour.

Take a good look at adultwork as alikatt has stated you can spot them a mile off darker dirtier skin tone a kind of off yellow colour.

Not all have dark skinned that is the typical stereotype used to identify them - I sometimes use it too. However, I am aware some can also have skin approaching 'White'.

Also there are some Romanian's think Jasmine Black (porn star) type who remind me of Gypsy descent but are not necessarily so.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2016, 08:39:58 PM by peter purves »

Not all have dark skinned that is the typical stereotype used to identify them - I sometimes use it too. However, I am aware some can also have skin approaching 'White'.

Also there are some Romanian's think Jasmine Black (porn star) type who remind me of Gypsy descent but are not necessarily so.

I rest my case






I rest my case







Thanks, but you confirm what I was suggesting:

Below is an example of a non-stereotypical Romani

http://theromany.weebly.com/

« Last Edit: August 20, 2016, 08:49:03 PM by peter purves »

Offline Jerboa

Snap (but not Rom only - I love the variety of EE) and I find the 'jumping though hoops' to arrange a meeting with an indigenous, a pain

As has been mentioned, this subject has been debated for years and despite the numerous polite pointers/suggestions as "How to get the best from a Romanian"
there will always be those who go into a meeting with the preconceived notion 'that all Romanians are shit' and the self-defeating prophesy comes true.
Then the others will simply not bother and they have every right to do so (but it does seem to be odd to then criticise, without experiencing.

Personally, I have now become loath to do reviews on the most successful Rom punts, as the only 'suggestion' I made, resulted in a flurry of negatives from other punters, who (for whatever reason) were unable to receive the same services I did.

Why be loath? Keep doing honest reviews, this can only be a benefit to other punters.

Why be loath? Keep doing honest reviews, this can only be a benefit to other punters.
You are dead right - I just need to keep to the review guidelines of clearly stating what I was looking for and what I got!
and
Different strokes for different folks  :)

Offline cat1144

i think many people in this country get confused between Romanian gypsies and ethnic Romanians

Many Romanians in this country including WGs are infact ethnic gypsies ....

The true ethnic Romanians are very different...in general much more courteous, etc

Gypsies are gypsies, whatever country they come from...and you deal with them at your peril

i think many people in this country get confused between Romanian gypsies and ethnic Romanians

Many Romanians in this country including WGs are infact ethnic gypsies ....

The true ethnic Romanians are very different...in general much more courteous, etc

Gypsies are gypsies, whatever country they come from...and you deal with them at your peril

What is meant by the term 'ethnic Romanians' and where academically or politically is it used??

Offline cat1144

What i mean by "ethnic Romanians" is indigenous Romanian people as opposed to Romanians of gypsy heritage.

Roma gypsies of course originate from the Indian subcontinent and migrated to Europe in the Middle ages (were to varying degrees they have mixed in with the host population, hence why most don't look Indian anymore)

What i mean by "ethnic Romanians" is indigenous Romanian people as opposed to Romanians of gypsy heritage.

Roma gypsies of course originate from the Indian subcontinent and migrated to Europe in the Middle ages (were to varying degrees they have mixed in with the host population, hence why most don't look Indian anymore)

Cheers,

However, and this is my point, if Gypsies have migrated into Europe, here specifically referring to Romania, nearly 800 years ago then this would be the reason why they would be considered to be 'Romanians'.

This division between Romani not being Romanians is one based on 'race' (and their persecution essentially).
It is almost the equivalent of saying Blacks or Asians born in Britain are not 'British' even though we are speaking of a much shorter time span for Blacks/Asians being here compared to the Romani in Romania.

This is why I say the outside world generally does not divide Romanians into Gypsies and Romanians, and it is the same on this forum also - even if Romanians may do and other nations in Eastern Europe may do also.

I think when punters attempt to create a Gypsy/Romanian separation it is because they come into contact with E. Europeans who impress upon them the difference between the two groups.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 12:45:17 PM by peter purves »

Online Ali Katt

Cheers,

However, and this is my point, if Gypsies have migrated into Europe, here specifically referring to Romania, nearly 800 years ago then this would be the reason why they would be considered to be 'Romanians'.

This division between Romani not being Romanians is one based on 'race' (and their persecution essentially).
It is almost the equivalent of saying Blacks or Asians born in Britain are not 'British' even though we are speaking of a much shorter time span for Blacks/Asians being here compared to the Romani in Romania.

This is why I say the outside world generally does not divide Romanians into Gypsies and Romanians, and it is the same on this forum also - even if Romanians may do and other nations in Eastern Europe may do also.

I think when punters attempt to create a Gypsy/Romanian separation it is because they come into contact with E. Europeans who impress upon them the difference between the two groups.
Blacks and Pakistanis born in England are indeed British, they are not English. As English is an ethnic group, Romani\Roma is a separate ethnic group to White Romanian. I sort of get your other points, but to pretend people are all the same apart from the colour of our skin is one of the biggest lies going. People inherit characteristics which go back billions of years. There is a huge difference culturally between someone like Sadiq Khan and say Jeremy Corbyn even if they may share similar politics. They're both as bad as each other, but they have different influences and ancestry.

Some people create separation between Roma and Romanian because they are different. It's like saying Israeli Jews and Muslims in Gaza are the same or Latinos and White Americans, or French and English, or Polish and Swedes. Unfortunately, the stereotypes about Gypsies are true, whether that is Romani or Irish Gypsies - thieves, druggies and dangerous.

Picture below is of Jasmine Black who looks half-Gypsy (if not the full monty), much like singer Alexandra Stan.


Blacks and Pakistanis born in England are indeed British, they are not English. As English is an ethnic group, Romani\Roma is a separate ethnic group to White Romanian. I sort of get your other points, but to pretend people are all the same apart from the colour of our skin is one of the biggest lies going. People inherit characteristics which go back billions of years. There is a huge difference culturally between someone like Sadiq Khan and say Jeremy Corbyn even if they may share similar politics. They're both as bad as each other, but they have different influences and ancestry.

Some people create separation between Roma and Romanian because they are different. It's like saying Israeli Jews and Muslims in Gaza are the same or Latinos and White Americans, or French and English, or Polish and Swedes. Unfortunately, the stereotypes about Gypsies are true, whether that is Romani or Irish Gypsies - thieves, druggies and dangerous.

Picture below is of Jasmine Black who looks half-Gypsy (if not the full monty), much like singer Alexandra Stan.



Cheers Ali Katt,

However, I think we have to first classify our terms of definitions for greater clarity.

There is ethnicity - as in Jews (ie in actuality a religious group), Romas

Then there is nationality  - British, Scottish

Then there is people - English people, Gaelic (Scotland,Ireland and Wales) when speaking about people per se. Though the term 'English' as it relates to the
geo-politics of England is something completely different.

The Romas born in Romania may be ethnically 'Gypsys' but this does not prevent them from being 'Romanians'. Just as Jews born in Golders Green are 'Jewish' and British at the same time.

As for Jasmine Black - love that picture btw - she does look as if she is from 'Gypsy' descent, I had always thought this but she is definitely not. Hence why I suggested earlier there are some Romanians who appear to have Gypsy features but are not.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 04:40:15 PM by peter purves »

Blacks and Pakistanis born in England are indeed British, they are not English. As English is an ethnic group, Romani\Roma is a separate ethnic group to White Romanian. I sort of get your other points, but to pretend people are all the same apart from the colour of our skin is one of the biggest lies going. People inherit characteristics which go back billions of years. There is a huge difference culturally between someone like Sadiq Khan and say Jeremy Corbyn even if they may share similar politics. They're both as bad as each other, but they have different influences and ancestry.

Some people create separation between Roma and Romanian because they are different. It's like saying Israeli Jews and Muslims in Gaza are the same or Latinos and White Americans, or French and English, or Polish and Swedes. Unfortunately, the stereotypes about Gypsies are true, whether that is Romani or Irish Gypsies - thieves, druggies and dangerous.

Picture below is of Jasmine Black who looks half-Gypsy (if not the full monty), much like singer Alexandra Stan.



Great post  :thumbsup:

Offline exd1970

Ive had about 25 punts with Romanian girls.  Had a couple of average ones, one was really bad, but on the whole really good.  I found one off AW and when I got there realized that I had seen her 6 months before, she remembered me and I had a great time, much better than the first.. I guess the thing is, if you see a girl regularly each time gets more relaxed and intimate, the Romanian girls are only in a town for a week before they move on.


I find them really attractive, agreed the ones I have seen have all been well tanned.  They generally look after themselves, and know what they are doing. I had a threesome with two of them and it blew my brains out.

I have never had one refuse to do anything I have asked them to do, still not got my first taste of "a" yet tho.

I am a bit realistic about punting, it's never going to be a proper gfe, ultimately all I am hoping to get is a good bit of RO and to walk out with an empty sack.. I would  pay £60 for 30 minutes with a Romanian anytime unless her feedback was blatently bad.

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Offline hotblondie28

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Hello all, I thought it would be helpful to share my opinion about romanian gypsies / rroma people.
We all know they came from India about 1000 years ago, the similarities between them still exist and can be easily seen:
Indian womens: http://www.evz.ro/image-original-605-388/cache/2015-06/24femei-india_1-465x390.jpg
Gypsy women: https://pintocara.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/tigani_dansand_copy.jpg

Unfortunately they brought with them all sorts of bad habits like stealing, conning people, begging, most of them are also lazy and preffer to beg than to work and their habits are spread across Europe, bringing a bad name to all Romanians.
I`m not saying that all gypsies are bad, but most of them. Some integrated and managed to get jobs, or got famous like the daughter of a famous gipsy singer: http://a1.ro/uploads/image/ana%202/carmen%20simionescu.jpg but they are not many.

As for confusing gypsies with romanians, thats easy, as over centuries they got whiter and their facial features got to look more like european ones.
This is a romanian brunette from Oltenia region (for some, she might look gypsy :): http://static4.libertatea.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/madalina-ghenea_32_5bb102dede.jpg
And these are white romanian girls, from northern Romania, Moldova region: http://assets.protv.md/articles/files/thumbs/650x/1878241.jpg

Southern half of Romania has a population with dark hair & skin due to higher temperatures, similar looking with italians for example, while the northern population has whiter skin and hair and bigger build than southerners.

As for the attitude of some romanian wg`s, gypsy or not, in my opinion it comes from poor understanding of what escorting means in UK, as in Romania is something to be very ashamed of and it`s also not spoken of. Most of them have pimps as they don`t have the knowledge to start working here, how to rent, how to obtain NIN, open a bank account, etc, so they preffer to split earnings with a pimp who takes care of those things and who doesn`t care to teach them to be nice, to provide the services stated in their like list (most of them have no idea what`s in there).

I apologize for the lenght of my post, I hope some will find it useful :)

Offline cat1144

Cheers Ali Katt,

However, I think we have to first classify our terms of definitions for greater clarity.

There is ethnicity - as in Jews (ie in actuality a religious group), Romas

Then there is nationality  - British, Scottish

Then there is people - English people, Gaelic (Scotland,Ireland and Wales) when speaking about people per se. Though the term 'English' as it relates to the
geo-politics of England is something completely different.

The Romas born in Romania may be ethnically 'Gypsys' but this does not prevent them from being 'Romanians'. Just as Jews born in Golders Green are 'Jewish' and British at the same time.

As for Jasmine Black - love that picture btw - she does look as if she is from 'Gypsy' descent, I had always thought this but she is definitely not. Hence why I suggested earlier there are some Romanians who appear to have Gypsy features but are not.

Latinos is an odd one though..As it's not a race. Americans seem to call anyone from latin america latino or hispanic. Most Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are ofcourse mixed raced people (mixture of Spanish conquerors, Native Americans and black slaves in various degrees)....but many other latinos (such as alot of Cubans), are white, of pure Spanish blood

Hello all, I thought it would be helpful to share my opinion about romanian gypsies / rroma people.
We all know they came from India about 1000 years ago, the similarities between them still exist and can be easily seen:
Indian womens: http://www.evz.ro/image-original-605-388/cache/2015-06/24femei-india_1-465x390.jpg
Gypsy women: https://pintocara.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/tigani_dansand_copy.jpg

Unfortunately they brought with them all sorts of bad habits like stealing, conning people, begging, most of them are also lazy and preffer to beg than to work and their habits are spread across Europe, bringing a bad name to all Romanians.
I`m not saying that all gypsies are bad, but most of them. Some integrated and managed to get jobs, or got famous like the daughter of a famous gipsy singer: http://a1.ro/uploads/image/ana%202/carmen%20simionescu.jpg but they are not many.

As for confusing gypsies with romanians, thats easy, as over centuries they got whiter and their facial features got to look more like european ones.
This is a romanian brunette from Oltenia region (for some, she might look gypsy :): http://static4.libertatea.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/madalina-ghenea_32_5bb102dede.jpg
And these are white romanian girls, from northern Romania, Moldova region: http://assets.protv.md/articles/files/thumbs/650x/1878241.jpg

Southern half of Romania has a population with dark hair & skin due to higher temperatures, similar looking with italians for example, while the northern population has whiter skin and hair and bigger build than southerners.

As for the attitude of some romanian wg`s, gypsy or not, in my opinion it comes from poor understanding of what escorting means in UK, as in Romania is something to be very ashamed of and it`s also not spoken of. Most of them have pimps as they don`t have the knowledge to start working here, how to rent, how to obtain NIN, open a bank account, etc, so they preffer to split earnings with a pimp who takes care of those things and who doesn`t care to teach them to be nice, to provide the services stated in their like list (most of them have no idea what`s in there).

I apologize for the lenght of my post, I hope some will find it useful :)

Hi Hotblondie28,

Yes, very useful (sorry - leaving aside the stereotypes) and what caught my eye was the aforesaid which seems to negate the concept of a 'White Romanian' which is more an English imagining IMHO
« Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 11:34:47 PM by peter purves »

Latinos is an odd one though..As it's not a race. Americans seem to call anyone from latin america latino or hispanic. Most Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are ofcourse mixed raced people (mixture of Spanish conquerors, Native Americans and black slaves in various degrees)....but many other latinos (such as alot of Cubans), are white, of pure Spanish blood

Spot on cat1144.

This is why I suggested clarifying the terms first where possible off course.


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