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Author Topic: Make UKPunting trans-friendly  (Read 4375 times)

Offline punther

You have punters from all walks of life.  Some like a prostate massage, some like rimming, some like to be penetrated, some like to be whipped, beaten/chastised, strangled, BDSM (broadly) and some like Trans Gender people.  I could go on...

100% Agree


All of this comes under "punting" and puts the P in the sites name, so there does not need to be a section for particular categories.

Disagree

This website is called UKPunting so why do we categorise posts and reviews by Regions?


Offline Nagilum

Disagree

This website is called UKPunting so why do we categorise posts and reviews by Regions?



I see what you are saying.  Regions is one thing and I agree they need to be there.  But imagine if we started categorising based on sexual preference or services rendered.  It was a response to have Transgender in a unique section, I can't see why.

It would become a moderation nightmare. 

Offline punther

I think this site would be even better if we could be more granular with categories in the same way porn sites categorise scenes

Imagine when writing a review being able to click a dropdown where you chould choose Ebony, Latina, Big Ass, BDSM, Big Tits etc

If a member didnt have a particular girl in mind but knew they wanted to punt one with big tits all they would need to do is click big tits and all reviews categorised as big tits in their region would pop up

that would be very useful(imo)

Offline punther

I see what you are saying.  Regions is one thing and I agree they need to be there.  But imagine if we started categorising based on sexual preference or services rendered.  It was a response to have Transgender in a unique section, I can't see why.

It would become a moderation nightmare.

I agree categorising on services rendered may be too much  (but a slightly more general categorisation of obvious characteristics may be useful...including TS)

Offline Fasting

1) Regarding accusations of being a politically correct, over-sensitive pussy... I guess it's all relative. I repeat that nobody on here would tolerate racism -- to the neo-Nazis across Europe that would make us all PC pussies.

I think it's very important to make a distinction between criticism of an individual (i.e. that specific tranny looks like a man in a dress), versus general slander (why use the female pronoun etc.)

2) To reiterate... The consequence of all the trolling is that it's difficult to get useful information about TS-punts (it wouldn't stop me reviewing but it does stop some). We're here to share information about punts. Transgender reviews are explicitly allowed in the rules of UKP. So it would be nice if the trolling stopped.

Offline Nagilum

I think this site would be even better if we could be more granular with categories in the same way porn sites categorise scenes

Imagine when writing a review being able to click a dropdown where you chould choose Ebony, Latina, Big Ass, BDSM, Big Tits etc

If a member didnt have a particular girl in mind but knew they wanted to punt one with big tits all they would need to do is click big tits and all reviews categorised as big tits in their region would pop up

that would be very useful(imo)

Yeah, I can see that working.  Personally I like to have DFK on the menu when I visit.  If the site had filters of this nature it would help.  This of course means re-coding the site and re-designing its front end.  Maybe need a moderator or two for the extra load.

Punther, I will nominate you should this occur  :D

Offline Marmalade

You have punters from all walks of life.  Some like a prostate massage, some like rimming, some like to be penetrated, some like to be whipped, beaten/chastised, strangled, BDSM (broadly) and some like Trans Gender people.  I could go on...

All of this comes under "punting" and puts the P in the sites name, so there does not need to be a section for particular categories.
absolutely  :drinks:

Offline Fasting

I think this site would be even better if we could be more granular with categories in the same way porn sites categorise scenes

Imagine when writing a review being able to click a dropdown where you chould choose Ebony, Latina, Big Ass, BDSM, Big Tits etc

If a member didnt have a particular girl in mind but knew they wanted to punt one with big tits all they would need to do is click big tits and all reviews categorised as big tits in their region would pop up

that would be very useful(imo)

Presumably that doesn't exist already because it would be loads of work to implement and maintain. People would always want some obscure new section.

Having a separate TS section would basically give the trolls no legitimate reason for being there... BUT they have no real reason to comment on TS reviews anyway.

Offline punther



Punther, I will nominate you should this occur  :D

Just read on another thread there have been 10,000 reviews posted

and to have to go through and categorise them all...rather you than me.. :D

Maybe it could be something implemented going forward for new reviews....

and in addition to this once the infrastructure is put in place then membes could be encouraged to go through their own reviews and categorise them retrospectively (would be a lot faster that way)

Offline Marmalade


2) it's difficult to get useful information about TS-punts (it wouldn't stop me reviewing but it does stop some). We're here to share information about punts. Transgender reviews are explicitly allowed in the rules of UKP. So it would be nice if the trolling stopped.

It's 'difficult to get info' cos there's so few punters (here at least) the slightest bit interested in Ts's.

Fact. Ooooo it's not fair. No, the world's not fair.

Posting any review can get you heckled. Get used to it. If there's a big 'trollish' thread complaining about fat old mingers, then sure as fuck some lardy 'milf-lovers' will protest. That's because there's enough of them to protest. Admin has already said if you think someone is out of order, report it. This general whining oooo it'd be nice, please give me a cuddle so I'll be brave is a bit pathetic really.
Sorry, an all that. Well, not really.  :cool:

Offline cueball


Having a separate TS section would basically give the trolls no legitimate reason for being there... BUT they have no real reason to comment on TS reviews anyway.

Is everybody that hasn't agreed with you classed as a troll in your mind?

I still don't like the sub forum idea neither. No need for it.

Reading that above I get the feeling you'd want it moderated strictly so there was no criticism whatsoever, that's not ukp to me.

I've said it loads of times, it's a forum full of grown men, have the bollox to retort rather than whine.

Offline Marmalade

Presumably ...

Sp ... You have anorexia and a penchant for the occasional piece of dick. Whoohoo for you. Anything else you wish to share?

 :kissgirl: blows kiss as Fuastingfucker wilts into the sunset (online I can kiss anything)  :cool:

Each to their own as far as I'm concerned.

If browsing through the reviews I come across a review for a TS I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

There is a small percentage of TS service providers overall so this in itself is reason enough for them not to warrant their own section.

Offline Marmalade

On almost every transgender review on UKPunting there are a number of transphobic comments.

So here are the comments on your TS review:

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Nice review, not something I'd probably ever do, but I appreciate it.

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cool, very informative review

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saw Sofia about two years ago in Glasgow and she was absolutely incredible

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Great to see no narrow minded replies, or playground giggling attitudes.

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whether its a tv a ts or a natural burd the punt is all about the paying punter

SO WHERE ARE YOUR 'TRANSPHOBIC COMMENTS' THAT YOU REFER TO?

Frankly, Sir, you are looking like you are just a little bit full of shit.  :hi:

Offline cueball

So here are the comments on your TS review:

SO WHERE ARE YOUR 'TRANSPHOBIC COMMENTS' THAT YOU REFER TO?

Frankly, Sir, you are looking like you are just a little bit full of shit.  :hi:

I've tried to put the same point to him but he doesn't answer it..

Eh? I'm not seeing that?

Any of the ts reviews I've read have contained mostly supportive posts, one or two criticisms but nothing major.


I'm just not seeing the torrent of abuse on actual ts review threads that fasting says there is.


Offline Fasting

It's 'difficult to get info' cos there's so few punters (here at least) the slightest bit interested in Ts's.

Many punters use a tranny-specific forum. However, few posters there post useful information (it's hard to find out even the price of the punt). I'd guess everyone on there knows about UKPunting, but they don't post here because they have to endure nonsense. I think it'd be more useful if they posted reviews here, as there are standards on what is expected of a review on UKP. I was trying to encourage that.

Just make a racist joke on here and see how people react. It's no longer banter, it's no longer boohoo, grow-a-pair. Some of the comments here are absolutely on the level of racial slurs.

Offline Fasting

So here are the comments on your TS review:

SO WHERE ARE YOUR 'TRANSPHOBIC COMMENTS' THAT YOU REFER TO?

Frankly, Sir, you are looking like you are just a little bit full of shit.  :hi:

Wasn't referring to my review, just most of them. Look at a bunch of Firebirds reviews. Also some comments get deleted.

Offline Fasting

FIREBIRD
Why do you constantly refere to the T'S as a she  :unknown:
It's a man with a pair of tits. .. its that simple
Be proud of who you are  and stop being in denial.
But the ts is definitely a MAN .

Award winning Irish Fillipino, beauty pageant winner (which one was that? The 2015 County Tipperary Squarest Jaw of the Year? :) )

This bloke Anna wouldn't be taking a lend of you guys, by any chance would he?

Unless you're a man looking to be fucked, I don't see the point in visiting a TS where you can actually see a real woman

Offline cueball



Click the links and look at support the op's got and the retorts that came from the op's

In my book it were a good exchange. If  I'd have been the reviewer I'd have been chuffed with the support.

The more I read, the more I think the problem is with you.

Offline Fasting

It was never about my review.

Cueball and Marmalade make a good point: the majority are supportive (looking over a good number of trans reviews on the site). However you will find time and time again comments that have nothing to do with the review but are simply general slander against transgender people.

So my problem should perhaps be restated : transphobic slurs are not taken seriously enough here.

Racism = bad, banning.

Transphobia = banter.

Offline smiths

Many punters use a tranny-specific forum. However, few posters there post useful information (it's hard to find out even the price of the punt). I'd guess everyone on there knows about UKPunting, but they don't post here because they have to endure nonsense. I think it'd be more useful if they posted reviews here, as there are standards on what is expected of a review on UKP. I was trying to encourage that.

Just make a racist joke on here and see how people react. It's no longer banter, it's no longer boohoo, grow-a-pair. Some of the comments here are absolutely on the level of racial slurs.

More moaning, jeez you are one boring whinger. :rolleyes:

Offline Dicky

Many punters use a tranny-specific forum. However, few posters there post useful information (it's hard to find out even the price of the punt). I'd guess everyone on there knows about UKPunting, but they don't post here because they have to endure nonsense. I think it'd be more useful if they posted reviews here, as there are standards on what is expected of a review on UKP. I was trying to encourage that.

Just make a racist joke on here and see how people react. It's no longer banter, it's no longer boohoo, grow-a-pair. Some of the comments here are absolutely on the level of racial slurs.

This will be my last comment on this thread. Fasting you are letting this website affect you too much. The moment comments here start affecting you personally and start outraging you, you must stop using this site. This is a review and information sharing site. If you came here only for that purpose and ignored the banter that you find repulsive, you'd enjoy more and be a better contributor to the site as well. If someone's being a troll despite not having contributed a single review of their own...and I mean James999, the whole forum knows thats so and then can decide whether to let him rave/rant or engage with him and make/spoil their day.  If men posting reviews on these sites are such wilting flowers then they should probably not be on this site

Its exactly like walking on the street...you see a drunk guy ranting away and you're busy living your life, you just avoid them and go about your business. If the drunk creates a scene outside your home, you report him to the police. Simples. Why would you try to get together with the neighbors and get alcohol banned?  You'd end up annoying everyone.

And frankly, equating trolling on social media forums to nazism etc is a bit much...especially shows you have zero idea of what nazism did. Social media just gives an outlet to people to talk about stuff they talked about with their mates anyway...just that you now are also listening in. No need to be shocked/outraged.


IMO I agree that the OP has lost perspective.

He's received support from admin who's pointed out that he can report posts he thinks are abusive.  :thumbsup:

What more does he expect? So people take the piss?! I mean ... grow up already.

Offline jaszyj87

IMO I agree that the OP has lost perspective.

He's received support from admin who's pointed out that he can report posts he thinks are abusive.  :thumbsup:

What more does he expect? So people take the piss?! I mean ... grow up already.

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