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Online jaszyj87

Why not? It is a discussion site, after all.

Sorry I meant on the reviews, should have made that clear

Offline mrhappypants

So I have read most of this thread and, unlike most fuckers on here, "political correctness" is something I value.  I have worked with people with learning difficulties; things take on a different complexion when you see first hand the pain that being called "subnormal" or "retarded" causes someone that you know and care for.

BUT

I do not identify with TS, I do not identify with blokes who want to fuck TS, I don't want to read about people paying to fuck TS and frankly I don't want TS escort reviews on this site. 

I am not against gays or bi.  I don't choose to use porn sites that have MM gay porn or TS porn.  I am cool with there being a place for TS escort reviews - but I would prefer it NOT be UKP.

Dave
« Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 11:39:39 pm by mrhappypants »

Offline Steely Dan

I am cool with there being a place for TS escort reviews - but I would prefer it NOT be UKP.

Dave
let's think
Quote
UKPunting Site Rules
« on: August 16, 2010, 11:35:30 pm »
- Transsexuals / Shemales
Allowed.
It seems your preference is not granted.

Offline Marmalade

It's covered I believe in the rules. Like em or fuck off.  :cool:

Offline Brazilian Martian

So I have read most of this thread and, unlike most fuckers on here, "political correctness" is something I value.  I have worked with people with learning difficulties; things take on a different complexion when you see first hand the pain that being called "subnormal" or "retarded" causes someone that you know and care for.

BUT

I do not identify with TS, I do not identify with blokes who want to fuck TS, I don't want to read about people paying to fuck TS and frankly I don't want TS escort reviews on this site. 

I am not against gays or bi.  I don't choose to use porn sites that have MM gay porn or TS porn.  I am cool with there being a place for TS escort reviews - but I would prefer it NOT be UKP.

Dave

Preach brother sing it to the mountains
Banning reason: 2 month ban for trolling

Offline mrhappypants

let's thinkIt seems your preference is not granted.

It's covered I believe in the rules. Like em or fuck off.  :cool:

I think both of you are missing the point.  I am quite aware what the editorial policy of the site is.  Rather, I am expressing an opinion as a contributor.  That is kind of the point of a discussion site isn't it?

Dave

Offline socks

I've never fucked a TS but reckon I'll give it a go one day. It would be a very feminine looking one and in my mind would be a chick with a dick rather than a bloke in wig. That's not me suppressing anything that's just how I see it. I would have no hesitation posting a review here and couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks about it.

Honestly OP if the anonymity of the internet isn't enough to overcome your fear of a bit of ribbing on this site, you're in the wrong place and hobby to begin with. Especially when that's principally from James999, who's a total wind up merchant anyway.

So there's members here who are bothered that you call TS whores "she" when they think you should say "he". FFS there's people in this world who'd have your cock cut off for having sex outside marriage. Surely this marginal difference in perspective is not the barrier you portray it to be???
« Last Edit: July 30, 2016, 12:29:39 am by socks »

Offline socks

For the record isn't there some movement that wants zhe adopted for this netherworld of disagreement...?
« Last Edit: July 30, 2016, 12:31:07 am by socks »

Offline Vivago

I think both of you are missing the point.  I am quite aware what the editorial policy of the site is.  Rather, I am expressing an opinion as a contributor.  That is kind of the point of a discussion site isn't it?

Dave

The subject of transsexuals must be of some interest to you. Otherwise why read the thread? :unknown:

You surely can't read all the threads on UKP (unless you are James or Jimmy :D)? There are just too many. So most, like me, just read those dealing in subjects for which they have a preference or interest.

Online smiths

The subject of transsexuals must be of some interest to you. Otherwise why read the thread? :unknown:

You surely can't read all the threads on UKP (unless you are James or Jimmy :D)? There are just too many. So most, like me, just read those dealing in subjects for which they have a preference or interest.


Offline Marmalade

I think both of you are missing the point.  I am quite aware what the editorial policy of the site is.  Rather, I am expressing an opinion as a contributor.  That is kind of the point of a discussion site isn't it?

Dave
yeah have ... learning difficulties work ....

so you are knob-o-phobic nothing wrong with that monsiewer contributore

why not suggest that the cock-wi-tits lovers mark their posts or thread starters clearly as TS when that's what they're bangin on about? mostly they seem to have done that anyway. so wot/who/url-s'il-v-play is your beef?

Offline Marmalade

If someone is born with a pair of bollocks then they are a man -------------- you don't refer to a man as "she".     :unknown:
Yeah that is a fair comment like calling size 18 a fat mingin lump o lard. Of course, if you were going to see her, or happen to be a lard-o-phile, you'd just call her obese (hopefully) or 'fat' if the o-word sticks in your throat.

Same with trannies. If they've had balls and cock snipped off and replaced with an artificial fanny, grown a pair tits, and stopped shaving (all of which is one hell of a fucking process) and they want to be called "she" to their face well there's nowt wrong with that. I've actually called a Romanian 'gawdgeus' or something like that while trying to get a smidgen of my money's worth, but I wouldn't bleat on about real lady and princesses on here ffs.

As for objections, as Admin said, just report the post if you think it's out of order. Note that as with "Complaining about the lack of 'political correctness', accusing the site moderation of being biased for / against something or throwing accusations of racism will equally not be tolerated" and "Excessive abuse / swearing is not acceptable. 'You're acting like a twat' is not excessive, however 'you're a fucking inbred cunt' is excessive and is not acceptable."

Within those bounds I think calling a TS a man is probably 'acceptable', calling a gay or bisexual man a 'shirtlifter' is probably ok, whereas an extreme rant against a TS* is not. That's just my interpretation but Admin may think differently. Hardly see how it warrants several pages. If it's another whiney-eyed 'suggestion' on how to run the site differently then remember it's Admin's site, he pays for it, and it ain't fucking democracy. What the fuck does the OP want, a special section called "one-willhe-or-two" plus a medal (one of the nice swingy variety)?

btw the title of the thread is dumb, judging by the OP. He's talking about TS's that are prostitutes, not being a TS. And since when have we bent over backwards (or forwards) to be oooo-so-frickin-'friendly' reviewing frickin prostitutes??

the place to hold hands and make friends with prostitutes (natural born women or TSs) is UKE.  :D


*maybe we could just call them ToSsers for short?  :cool:
« Last Edit: July 30, 2016, 05:46:55 am by Marmalade »


What does UKE mean? UKE is short for www.UKEscorting.com

Offline mrhappypants

The subject of transsexuals must be of some interest to you. Otherwise why read the thread? :unknown:

Vivago, in all all honesty I read the post because I know I am NOT TS friendly.  I think Marmalade's solution - ask TS reviews to be clearly labelled - is viable for me. But while what I would say to my kids is "be tolerant, live and let live," my personal reaction is that that stuff is different and I don't want to look at it (hence the porn analogy).  And if some soppy old liberal like me feels like that then there are plenty of fuckers on here who might feel a lot stronger and I think the opinion should at least be heard in this debate.

I concur a separate section for TS reviews and discussions may be useful. That way members who aren't interested in TS will not see any TS posts when they are looking at non-TS reviews. A TS section will probably have more reviews than the Northern Ireland section  :lol:

The he/she pronoun debate is just plain silly. Those 'HE'-ers know who the review is referring to, a TS. 'Correcting' the pronoun doesn't really add anything to the review as there is no factual confusion. :unknown:


Offline Marmalade

I concur a separate section for TS reviews and discussions may be useful. That way members who aren't interested in TS will not see any TS posts when they are looking at non-TS reviews. A TS section will probably have more reviews than the Northern Ireland section  :lol:

Really?? ....and who was the person you 'concurred with...?'   Certainly not me, who said it ironically, and I think that was obvious.

It's as sad as having a 'separate section' for fat fuck whores ("BBWs  :rose:") or old mingers (ooops sorry, "MILFS" - apparently some pervy people like fucking grannies  :D )

If you don't like it, you'd have to ignore the header every time you logged on (rather than once in a post-menopausal period when some half-n-half was waving a TS flag).

Offline David1970

I read the first two pages on this subject and gave up, petty arguments.
Surly the answer is to put TS/TV in the title of the post, people who want to read will read it and those who do not need not.
As for the She/He argument, just stupid and petty.

Offline uutarn

Interesting thread.

Gender stereotypes ahoy!

Humans are not animals (well some are) and are far more complex mentally. Dog has a litter, turn them over to see if its a boy or a girl, easy.
You can't do that with humans, things are far more complicated.

But i digress...

All depends how i personally perceive them IMO. If she looks like a woman, the trans is a she in my book. If its a dude in a wig and a dress, its a bloke. Case and point proved by the pics in this thread.
Anyone seen pics of Bailey Jay?
She is a woman, the genitals does not denote the gender to me but for some it does...

And that's the point innit.
Everyone is going to have an opinion (and fucking good job as it would be a boring life) and lo and behold, they are going to differ from yours.
Acceptance. Deal with it.

So I have read most of this thread and, unlike most fuckers on here, "political correctness" is something I value. 

There is nothing politically correct about treating disabled people with dignity and respect it's basic human decency. Sick to death of these thought police virtue signalling at any given opportunity. Hopefully Trump will be in the White house and all this crap will come to an end!


I read the first two pages on this subject and gave up, petty arguments.
Surly the answer is to put TS/TV in the title of the post, people who want to read will read it and those who do not need not.
As for the She/He argument, just stupid and petty.

+1 completely right.

But I wonder if there is some mileage in a seperate section for nationwide TS/TV reviews to both group this info together and hopefully dissuade petty twats from visiting and trolling.

I have been reading this thread on and off for a couple of days and although it may be useful to open a TS section for those people who like TS's, I think as long as the reviewer labels at the start of the review that it is a TS review there should be no problem.  There is also a Search facility/option on this site that can be used.

Offline Jimmyredcab



Honestly OP if the anonymity of the internet isn't enough to overcome your fear of a bit of ribbing on this site, you're in the wrong place and hobby to begin with. Especially when that's principally from James999, who's a total wind up merchant anyway.



Offline Frampton

I think this thread shows just how odd human beings are. For most of polite society we are all odd perverts who are grouping together online to discuss our perversions.

And then there is a subgroup of perverts who can't be accepted (or at least left in peace) by the other perverts.

Odd.

From my point of view I am not fussed in the slightest if somebody wants to post reviews on TS escorts, there's a demand for it and who gives a shit if they refer to them as "she" or "her" or whether they consider themselves straight, gay or bi? Of all the problems our hobby faces, a bloke having sex with an adult escort (whatever the gender) must rank down there with a bloke who wants to fuck a BBW, why would anybody else give a shit?

Make sure that the review clearly shows "TS" in the title and then the precious snowflakes that are offended can just avoid the threads.

I think this thread shows just how odd human beings are. For most of polite society we are all odd perverts who are grouping together online to discuss our perversions.

And then there is a subgroup of perverts who can't be accepted (or at least left in peace) by the other perverts.

Odd.

From my point of view I am not fussed in the slightest if somebody wants to post reviews on TS escorts, there's a demand for it and who gives a shit if they refer to them as "she" or "her" or whether they consider thjemselves straight, gay or bi? Of all the problems our hobby faces, a bloke having sex with an adult escort (whatever the gender) must rank down there with a bloke who wants to fuck a BBW, why would anybody else give a shit?

Make sure that the review clearly shows "TS" in the title and then the precious snowflakes that are offended can just avoid the threads.

Mockery is acceptance what do you mean.   :unknown:

Offline socks



Honestly OP if the anonymity of the internet isn't enough to overcome your fear of a bit of ribbing on this site, you're in the wrong place and hobby to begin with. Especially when that's principally from James999, who's a total wind up merchant anyway.





Oh I don't know, maybe not then.

Offline Nagilum

You have punters from all walks of life.  Some like a prostate massage, some like rimming, some like to be penetrated, some like to be whipped, beaten/chastised, strangled, BDSM (broadly) and some like Trans Gender people.  I could go on...

All of this comes under "punting" and puts the P in the sites name, so there does not need to be a section for particular categories.



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