Have a look at what Rosie Campbell has published and who it is for. These research papers are a way of networking into politics. I could be wrong on the motives, but do you honestly think it has been funded to the tune of nearly half a million just to create a narrative?
By feminists I don't mean a woman who owns a book by Germaine Greer, I mean the ones posting on blogs like this. The feminist cause was hijacked by idiots like Andrea Dworkin to perpetuate their hatred of men.
You are right there are hypocritical men and there are women that are for prostitution. Have a look at the main critics of prostitution, it's people like Harriet Harman.
How many true (i.e. militant) feminists are on the game? My money is on zero. Feminism is a girl's club. The biggest critics of women are women, they're the ones who criticise other women if they have the wrong brand of shoes or aren't a size zero.
Yes I have, but that's a total strawman argument and you know it. I am talking about feminism not whether prostitutes enjoy sex.
Oh please 5th Musketeer your attempts at ad hominem are truly pathetic. I've not insulted a single punter on this thread despite numerous opportunities. If that's what you want we can go there.
Feminism is no longer about equal pay or workers rights. It is an incredibly toxic series of ideologies. Even gay men have spoken out against feminism. If you are a man who calls himself a feminist, cut off your dick, put on a bin bag and start hanging around with the other bean flickers.
Why do you say that Harriet Harman is one of the MAIN critics of prostitution? There are so many others, and she has her own, preconceived notions about what prostitution is. She is on record as saying “…Prostitution is bad for women, men and neighbourhoods
…” and “… I think there are only a very small number of women for whom prostitution is genuinely a free, positive, strong choice. Most women find themselves in prostitution because of mental illness, drug or alcohol addiction. Many have had troubled or abused childhoods or have been brought up in the care system. Many have been tricked into prostitution by human traffickers who have brought them from abroad and then forced them into the sex trade. These women need protecting and help to lead a better, safer life. If that means interfering with the "right" of the very few women who choose to sell sex or the "right" of men to buy sex, then so be it.
” That all sounds like a fairly standard critical (and, dare I say, mainstream) view of prostitution and it is from someone whose views are highly unlikely to differ from the mainstream. And I in no way condone forced prostitution - I am totally in favour of THAT being illegal. However, we should recognize first that most men (and women like HH) have no idea how and why all working girls or escorts (or prostitutes, to use the pejorative term) do what they do. It would be anathema to HH to take a view that is out of the mainstream. And while I do not in any way agree with Corbyn, I admire his courage in trying to bring an understanding of the sex-worker profession into the public’s view.
I’m sorry if you felt that my wondering about your age made you think it was an ad hominem attack, but your argument sounded a bit dated. I don’t regard those feminists who post on the internet, as in your hyperlink quote, to be representative of all those who believe in feminism. “Feminists” are not a monolithic whole, they all have their own beliefs about what a woman is entitled to in the current world. There are militant feminists who believe in nothing but equality with men in everything (and that means EVERYTHING) and there are militant feminists who want women to be treated equally in what they regard as a ‘normal’ life, not recognizing that ‘normal’ is not the same for everyone.
When I mentioned women WANTING to be paid for sex and enjoying it I don’t understand why you say it is a strawman argument. You acknowledged that you know it exists, and that you have experienced it, though not how frequently – and I have no desire to find out.
Finally I don’t agree with you that feminism is an incredibly toxic series of ideologies. It is different, but if you don’t agree with it that doesn’t make it toxic.
I’m sorry that, in your final paragraph, you felt you had to get abusive. I have no desire to go there.