Frankfurt And Couple of Questions

[thunder]

Going to Frankfurt soon and will try RLD and FKKs.
I read the posts here and ISG and I have couple of questions, will appreciate any help
- In the FKKs, it seems like you pay for the time. So when I choose the 30mins option, is it still cum once? Not that I'd be able to cum twice in 30 mins but just wondering say if you cum in 10 mins then what do you do during the rest of the time?
- In FKKs and RLD, are services like rimming (receiving), facials, swallow no no , or is it worth asking the girls?
- In Frankfurt which FKK and which house in RLD have more German girls?
- Is there a way to avoid barebackers in RLD - obviously not all the girls in a house would offer BB , but just wondering whether there is a house notorious with girls offering BB? 
Thanks very much in advance

[JazzMan]

"In FKKs and RLD, are services like rimming (receiving), facials, swallow no no , or is it worth asking the girls?"

Once you're in the room ask for what you want.

[Jerboa]

"In FKKs and RLD, are services like rimming (receiving), facials, swallow no no , or is it worth asking the girls?"

Once you're in the room ask for what you want.

I would advise asking her out in the hallway, don't go into a room then negotiate, as the girls in a position of power, as punters already hooked, probably not so many girls in the laufhaus will do rimming and facials, for example after a facial she will need time to trowel the make up back on, my advice is ask first before committing.

As for the OP's other Q's, in a 30min fkk session it's usually cum once with most girls, so pace yourself, but if you want to extend to a hour she'll be happy for cum twice, for German girls probably Palace, but watch out for the sharks. Is there a way to avoid barebackers? Yes be celibate, who knows just look after yourself.

[char45]

I'd second Jerboa's comments and add that if you are going to cum earlier than the half hour you should negotiate what you want to do in the time before you go to the room e.g. cum then have massage for rest of time or whatever. Otherwise they will try and finish after you have cum.

Other thing that caught me out when I first went to an FKK was not checking prices for services at the entrance, ended up paying much more than expected for a couple of extras

[Jerboa]

I'd second Jerboa's comments and add that if you are going to cum earlier than the half hour you should negotiate what you want to do in the time before you go to the room e.g. cum then have massage for rest of time or whatever. Otherwise they will try and finish after you have cum.

Other thing that caught me out when I first went to an FKK was not checking prices for services at the entrance, ended up paying much more than expected for a couple of extras

I was speaking about laufhaus but it can also relate to fkk girls, most fkk's the extras are universal, anal, CIM, not kissing or OWO.

[Stalinator]

Laufhaus girls will shoo you out the door as soon as you cum. They won't do kissing, OWO, anal or anything that is not just a covered BJ and sex in 1 position. Don't ever pay them for 30 mins as there is no way in hell they will allow a punter to stay that long. They may well tell you at the door in the hallway that X, Y and Z are available only for them not to be available once money changes hands.

Laufhaus is really only use for a pump and dump only. If you want more then a FKK place is where it is at.

[thunder]

Thanks for all the advice and tips.People say Frankfurt is boring, but I found the city pretty lively.
Overall , having so many options for punting is great. However,  for me I guess FKK or RLD can't replace a good indie girl in London with whom I can have a perfect PSE. FKK is more of an experience and RLD is shitty with some seriously hot girls but more for pump and dump.

Here is my experience:

RLD:
First Day: Indeed dodgy looking but safe. Nobody really bothers each other. It looks dirty and people who frequent the RLD do not look classy as well. However there are some gems to be found.
First day I have been with a Bulgarian brunette. I really can't remember which house it was. Nice looking enough. Blowjob and sex with change positions for 20 euros. It kind of made me realize even with a small distance, with heels and lingerie girls look much better than once you get in to the room and get closer. I don't think I'll turn back to this girl if I was living in Frankfurt, but can't complain for €20.

After more stairs climbing, I found a blonde Romanian attractive. Once in the room, she took her lingerie and high heels off claiming it's too hot. She tried hard but I couldn't come. Damage €30. This was in Rotehaus which I found to be the best among all the ones I had visited.

Third Day: After spending the second day in the Palace , I went back to RLD for a quick pump and dump. In one of those houses where there are mostly south american woman, I chose a very bad looking mature woman. I don't know what was wrong with me. I agreed for a facials with her. I actually just wanted a facials and she confirmed it for €20. Once in the room, I paid and she suddenly became strange and actually once I was in the room I wanted to get the shit out of this place asap. There was no way I'd let her touch me. I said ok I'm just going to jerk myself of and come on to your face. she said it's not possible. By the way, she doesn't speak English or practically almost non-existent. I said give me money back and she threatened the call the police etc. I'd call her bluff but for €20 I really didn't want to bother and just got the hell out of there. Seriously,I was pissed off with myself and had still no idea why I went into that room. Probably even if she paid 10,000 euros I'd not fuck her. Been punting for so many years and probably it was one of my biggest punting mistakes. Hopefully I was only ripped of €20s.

I wanted to call it a day as I was pretty tired from the previous day but then decided not to let that bitch ruin my day. Been to some other houses no one attractive and finally went to Rotehaus and I knew I'd find someone there. And I spotted at least 3 girls I'd like to fuck. One was a very good looking and I mean very good looking German blonde called Elena. On the top floor I also have seen a mixed race German whi was seriously hot too. And a very good looking Turkish girl. I knew eventually I'd go for the blondie. €30 is the price in Rotehaus. She was nice , let me kiss her body lips, started with a CBJ and then I fucked her a good 15 minutes. Very hot body, not much tits but she was probably better looking than most of the girls in the Palace. If I had the energy, I'd also try the blonde next to her room and the German mixed race girl upstairs. But I was too tired. I felt a bit sorry for this girl, as usual, as the place and in general guys coming to that place looked really like shit.

Second Day - FKK PALACE

Would be my first FKK so despite reading the recent negative reviews I chose Palace due to its more central location.  Facilities are great, clean, the environment is laid back.Food is good.

Arrived at 6pm , not too many girls and not too many clients. Been attacked by couple of girls whi tried really hard but took my time. Was in no rush and was waiting a friend.

Spotted a hot German blonde. In general I hated the negotiating bit in the FKK. I can't speak for other FKKs but in Palace, almost all girls are sharks. They only care about money and the more you pay it doesn't seem like experience get any better. I failed to understand the logic behind paying extra €50 just for kissing for example which some girls asked for. And it seemed to me like once you go for the basic €50 option ,they kind of label you as a cheapstake. I'll try to give examples based on individual experiences.

German Girl:
Agreed for €50. I'm very bad at remembering names. We started to kiss and after a while she told me if I want more kissing it's extra. That really ruins the moment. Anyway I said it's ok, I don't want any more kissing. She gave a me BBBJ, and she was the only girl whom I let me suck without a condom. After a while condom on, doggy style with spanking and finished in missionary. Hot girl and for €50 I think it was fair. We were probably 15-20 minutes into our session and she immediately proceeded to leave the room. I told her next time I hope yougive me the 30 mins and she told me, she doesn't have to stay 30 mins once I come... I didn't discuss.

There were some hot girls. Romanina looking but I wanted to wait a bit until my friend comes. Then saw this very tall German girl with very big tits. She was a total slut though. she didn't bother to come with me for €50 and said if I want to pay more it might be a better idea. Most of the time she was on the slot machines and most of the girls were following customers who would likely to pay better. such as asian guys and my friend who ended up paying €150 to this girl for a one hour session later... I went to this girl towards the end of the night again and she rejected me saying she's resting at the moment and asked me to find her later...

Dominican Republic:
Second experience was with a black girl from Dominican Republic. Again very promising before going into the room. But once in the room, kept asking for more money. CBJ per my request ad ball sucking. Fucked her in couple of positions and again we were probably done in 20 mins. Damage €50. hot girlbut wouldn't rush to go back.

Romanian:
Silicone lips, very hot body. Fancied this girl again negotiating for more than €50 and I said I don't want CIM. she said it's ok just giving you the options. Once in the room, asked me how many girls I fucked that day and I said two and she complained or joked that it's going to take time for me to come...Her ass was great in doggy style.I didn't last too long.

Spent some more time but the selection became worse and worse with some girls disappearing God knows where. Men outnumbered the girls by a wide margin at one point. I have seen a good looking girl don't know where from but when I approached her she said she promised another guy and went with him. And she never actually came back to me afterwards so I called it a night and decided not to go for the fourth round. Total damage €150 for the girls €75 entry and €18 for beer.

Some observations:
-  I have seen some girls spending quite a lot of time with they guys before they went into the room. for me it was most of the time clear when a girl approached and I didn't fancy her I made it sort of clear in the beginning that I'm not likely to go to the room. And from the ones I liked, they didn't really come to convince me as they did with some Asian guys. I don't know what is their criteria or whether some of these guys are regulars.

- In general, I found the FKK experience to be nice but would much prefer a PSE with an indie girl. Seems like you can never get a proper experience unless you're ready to pay a lot. And my impression is that even if you pay a lot amount of services you'd get wouldn't be too different. I'd think facials are out of the question as there is no washbasin in the rooms and girls have to come with you to take the money and then go to shower. And DT and some more hardcore stuff didn't seem to be on offer. Maybe I'm mistaken. I also thought the quality of experience you would get from €100 option wouldn't be too different than €50.

- RLD has girls as good looking as Palace. Obviously, the environment is totally different but the most beautiful girl I had been with was the German blonde in the RLD.

[DrGFreeman]

thunder - thanks for posting such a detailed report
it sounds like your trip had some successes but also some disappointments

RLD
I too have pounded the stairs, if you're in Frankfurt and looking for pump&dump it must be the cheapest option
I never entirely felt comfortable there, it feels seedy and exploitative and the girls are on edge
There are some pretty girls, but good experiences ?

Sharks
Been once, never went back. Girls aren't interested in 'only a 50 euro' session. Most seem to consider the starting point 100.
FKK Mainhattan is also in the city centre, not as good as sharks or oase, but loads better than palace.
I think a 100E session at sharks would be poorer than a 50e session at shaks/oase
PSE - you are probably right, theres a long list of extras available at an FKK. but if you add it all up, you're better off with an indi girl who advertises PSE in the first place.

[Jerboa]

Ok Thunder nice report, but would of helped if you could remember the Palace girls names, this club is well known to be very sharky, because it's frequented by so many tourists, you're correct that extra 50 just for kissing is ridicules, many of the girls try to promote special packages involving CIM as this is a recognised extra, the trouble in Palace is many girls will only do a basic suck and fuck at 50, and try to get you done in 15 minutes, they think they're to good for only 50, and think you're a cheap charley if you won't pay more, problem is lots of chinless wonder newbies visit this club and will pay whatever the girls tell them, and even tip too!

[DrGFreeman]

Typo - should have said palace above, unless someone edited ?
 
Palace
Been once, never went back. Girls aren't interested in 'only a 50 euro' session. Most seem to consider the starting point 100.
FKK Mainhattan is also in the city centre, not as good as sharks or oase, but loads better than palace.
I think a 100E session at Palace would be poorer than a 50e session at shaks/oase
PSE - you are probably right, theres a long list of extras available at an FKK. but if you add it all up, you're better off with an indi girl who advertises PSE in the first place.

[Jerboa]

Typo - should have said palace above, unless someone edited ?
 
Palace
Been once, never went back. Girls aren't interested in 'only a 50 euro' session. Most seem to consider the starting point 100.
FKK Mainhattan is also in the city centre, not as good as sharks or oase, but loads better than palace.
I think a 100E session at Palace would be poorer than a 50e session at shaks/oase
PSE - you are probably right, theres a long list of extras available at an FKK. but if you add it all up, you're better off with an indi girl who advertises PSE in the first place.

There isn't a long list of extras at a fkk, even though some girls might like to tell you otherwise.

[thunder]

Ok Thunder nice report, but would of helped if you could remember the Palace girls names, this club is well known to be very sharky, because it's frequented by so many tourists, you're correct that extra 50 just for kissing is ridicules, many of the girls try to promote special packages involving CIM as this is a recognised extra, the trouble in Palace is many girls will only do a basic suck and fuck at 50, and try to get you done in 15 minutes, they think they're to good for only 50, and think you're a cheap charley if you won't pay more, problem is lots of chinless wonder newbies visit this club and will pay whatever the girls tell them, and even tip too!

Thanks Jerboa, will try to remember better next time

[chris44]

Off to Frankfurt in 2 weeks, done the RLD and Palace FKK last time. Didn't enjoy the Palace so much as too much plastic and very pushy girls. Like the sound of FKK Sharks, just wondered how easy it is to get to from Frankurt city centre. Whats the cost of taxi direct or is it better/ feasible to get public transport. Whats other rating of this place?

[Jerboa]

Off to Frankfurt in 2 weeks, done the RLD and Palace FKK last time. Didn't enjoy the Palace so much as too much plastic and very pushy girls. Like the sound of FKK Sharks, just wondered how easy it is to get to from Frankurt city centre. Whats the cost of taxi direct or is it better/ feasible to get public transport. Whats other rating of this place?

Get the train to Darmstadt then a taxi.

[irishlad]

Hi All,

Went to FKK Oase in 2012 and see experience below.

Getting there:

As I was staying in Friedrichsdorf, which I believe is the nearest town and train station. I walked down to the Train station and been as nervous as hell I got into a taxi there and as soon as I sat into it the driver turned and said FKK OASE and I was on my way (Did not even have to tell him). Its about a five to 10 minute drive and the club it out in the middle of the countryside so not to worry if you find yourself driven along a narrow road with no houses etc on it. Makes it very private and the club it a bit in from the road and a long car park the length of the driveway.

What to expect on entering:

Once inside the door there is a small reception area and the lady took my money and also put one band on my left arm to say I had paid and another on my right with key to both my lockers (Clothes and Money locker). Was offered a towel only but asked and was also given a robe. Note at reception just five feet to your left through the door it the bar area and my first glance at the girls and boy was I impressed.

The Club layout:

Using the reception as a certain point. From reception you first need to go to the locker room / changing area. Just enter into the bar area, turn right through the next doorway and on forward down the stairs and into a large modern locker room and find the locker with the key number to match change and back up the stairs, bring your money to your second locker which are in the bar area to the right of the doorway that let from reception. These lockers are only big enough for your wallet and the other lockers only your clothes so if you had a large bag you might be in trouble. Back at the doorway from reception to your left is a the bar on an L shape and beyond that is the main Room with a dancing poll in the centre and comfy sofas all around with some high chairs and tables. Enough to seat 40 and to the far right of the room you'll find the KINO again 3 rows of comfy sofas facing onto the large screen showing porn and also on a couple of occasions seen full on BJ action during the night and was offered it a couple of times myself but been shy declined. The bar / main room area would be the same size as a large pub in Dublin. Back to the door at the reception area and turn right though the doors for the locker area and instead of going down the stairs to your left are the rooms and to your right the Jacuzzi / sauna area which also has rooms to one side. This basically has a large Jacuzzi maybe holds up to 10 and some deck chairs around it and the sauna rooms to the far right side with the pro massage lady in a room in the corner to the far left. These guys is a legit massage and one of the girls tells me she is quite good. 30 euro apparently. Beyond the the sauna rooms it the entrance to the outdoor area and as it was dark did not see much of this but looks like a large pool with deck chairs all around reports of it been great in the good weather I'm sure are true.

The Girls:

Now for the most important bit. After putting my wallet away and at this stage to be honest I had been a little blown away by the quality of the girls and I had only gone to and from the locker room yet. Back up at the bar I got a free Fanta the sat down in the main room. As said many times before girls were all in high heels only a few with stockings. I'd estimate that there were about 50 girls in the club at 8:30 and this dwindled down to about 25 by 12:30. Seemed to be a slow night and this was confirmed by one of the girls. Of the 50 at least 35 were an 8 or above, another 8 I'd rate as 7 and the others I did not find attractive. High odds indeed. Almost all the girls are slim, with small B / A cup boobs and appear quite tall in the heals and 80%+ Romanian and the majority in the 18 to 25 year old bracket. Of the girls I'll pick out the 2 I found most attractive.

1: A blond that I immediately seem on entering the bar. But she left at 09:00 so did not speck to her. She has quite an incredible body, Jennifer Aniston is her prime. I just could not believe what I was seeing and had to stop and stare like an idiot just for a minute she was just that good. Learned later and I'm 90% certain that she is the only German girl at the club and is 24 years old.

2: Julie 18 Year old Romanian, This girl it so sweet and innocent and a drop dead looker to match. 170cm tall teeny body, back hair. Got her in the room for an hour and was very pleased. She talked away and as near as a GFE as your going to get. She but a smile on my face when she said without any hesitation the she was to young for a drink as she might regret what she would do like any other teenager, but I could only see the contradiction given the circumstance with a very large smile.

Oh Yes some girls will approach and will take no for an answer if you give it in a polite way and others will sit down or walk about expecting a wink or a node and the'll be over to you in a hurry. Some are sweet talking about where your from and what your doing in Frankfurt and more are full on wispering about the great BJ she'll give you in the KINO and the great fuck you'll have together. Its up to your own taste what you want really.

Newbie lessons learned:

1: When I go again and I will, I would go about 3pm, and leave at 10:30pm as to get the day and night shift together. After 10pm the crowd both girls and men dwindled abit and this took from the atmosphere I though.

2: Once you see a girl you like and want approach quickly as she will get taken or leave as happened above with the blond.

3: The space indoors in the club is not quite as large as I though from reports but it still quite big and if there was a large crowd I'm sure it would be very packed.

4: You kind of phase out the other gents that are there and anyway everyone kind of minds their own business. And just in case your wondering. All ages / sizes and mostly singe gents with a few small groups. All respectful of the situation and no loud and rowdy types.

Conclusion:

The best way of describing it would be to close your eyes and picture going to the local pub / bar / disco where the 18 to 25 year old set go and pick out all the attractive girls and have them nude in only their heels and then replace the guys with men of all ages/looks sitting about in robes / towels and thats the nearest picture your going to get without actually been there.

Will I go back YES YES YES and I plan to explore other FKK's as well.

[bbj1980]

U must have a miracle brain to remember that from 4 years ago

[irishlad]

Had it posted om anther site and copied it here for info to others.