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Offline billyjo

I got something similar from a O-N-S from a girl I met in Yates's (classy).
Doc said it was a NSU and anti-bios knocked it on the head.
No trip to GUM needed in my experience.

What's NSU?


Offline JustTheWiz

I got something similar from a O-N-S from a girl I met in Yates's (classy).
Doc said it was a NSU and anti-bios knocked it on the head.
No trip to GUM needed in my experience.

I just read the symptoms of NSU but I don't think I have any of those symptoms as it doesn't hurt when I urinate. I guess the only symptom might be that it does feel irritating. The thing is it has been much better today, I haven't felt it as much as the last two days.

DavidWHL

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As someone who's favourite part of sex has nearly always been receiving OWO I have always had this with girls I have seen. However I recently picked up Gonohrrea from one of 2 WG's. I say this because I saw them within a month of each other and before that had no sexual contact or symptoms for a good 4/5 months.

I am all clear now after getting an injection. Im not able to swallow tablets s hopefully it is not still lurking in my system as the doc said taking the pills would help make sure it is gone.

I guess the only way forward now is OW. Not a great thought but I remember once receiving this from a girl who advertised as OWO but then said it was extra when i arrived, and actually enjoying it.

From all the research I did online when I had the STD, info the doc gave me and everything discussed in this thread it has been an interesting read.

Realistically the only way to see a girl and not put yourself at risk is just to have protected sex. No kissing, no OWO.. fingering and receiving hand relief should be fine as long as you wipe your hands after or make sure you don't touch anywhere on your body with that juice.

What do you guys think? Good assessment?

Oh and hi, this is my first post.  :rolleyes:


Wiltsboy01

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However I recently picked up Gonohrrea from one of 2 WG's. I say this because I saw them within a month of each other and before that had no sexual contact or symptoms for a good 4/5 months.

Ok who? Otherwise post is worth fuckall, sorry.

Melb

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Doesn't matter who from, it's still a valid point.
I had a similar experience, see posts passim, from a girl at Tophat escorts - now defunct.

dilettante

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Does your resistance depend on your general health?  I never get ill with normal colds etc, I take stringent care of my health (won't go into details) but surely there's a correlation?

Offline Daffodil

There have been a few posts on here by guys who have caught shit from owo.

The reality in life is that there is risk involved in anything we do. Crossing the road carries risk, but we all still cross roads. I do activities and actions in my life that are far higher risk than those I take during sex with prossies.

All we can do is be aware of the risk involved and make a personal call on what is and is not acceptable to us and our circumstance.

Offline dmerc

This has all made me think quite a lot. I'm married as I'm sure many of you are and been punting for many years. I've had that itching thing before and I think it's purely psychosomatic. Each time I had it checked at gum clinc and came up clear.
I started off punting very paranoid and would only have ow and never kiss or give them oral. But inevitably as i got used to it i wanted more and i recently have been having owo dfk and licking their pussies like there's no tomorrow...... :P can't get enough. I think it is very addictive and hard to stop once you have started. But now seriously thinking maybe I should or at least go back to the very safest way. Boring I know.......

Roland D Hay

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There's nothing 'safe' about OWO. Anything you can catch from barebacking, you can theoretically catch from OWO. You learn a lot, sitting in the waiting room at the GU clinic and reading all the stuff about STIs.

Which is why I find it odd and slightly hypocritical that so many people get hysterical about bareback and castigate anyone who does it, and yet maintain their apparently God-given right to OWO.


That's an excellent and valid point you make and personally I think its a risk to reward argument. It's not safe, agreed, but it's safer than bareback and even safer if you avoid cim, especially for the WG. I'll still do owo but I'll no longer do cim. Maybe it will take an STI to make me stop doing owo but as I said, risk to reward.

Offline smiths

That's an excellent and valid point you make and personally I think its a risk to reward argument. It's not safe, agreed, but it's safer than bareback and even safer if you avoid cim, especially for the WG. I'll still do owo but I'll no longer do cim. Maybe it will take an STI to make me stop doing owo but as I said, risk to reward.

Good post, i entirely agree with you. As i posted i do OWO as OW does nothing for me but i wouldnt do BB with a WG as to me the risk isnt worth the reward as it is to me with OWO. It would definitely take me getting infected to stop getting OWO unless it wasnt on offer anymore of course. ;)

dilettante

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Also there are no certified cases of anyone getting HIV from OWO, even if you can on paper.

Roland D Hay

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My reading is that HPV seems to pose the biggest potential risk.

rogerc23

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Also there are no certified cases of anyone getting HIV from OWO, even if you can on paper.

not that im aware of, if you go to a GUM clinic in london and just say you had OWO but covered sex they wont even test you for HIV. Thats the key difference between OWO and bareback, you can get something nasty yes but you are highly highly unlikely to get the biggie, having read a few similar threads on here on this subject there seem to be some people who dont seem to get this.

Personally i only punt once a month and its mainly been over the past year or so, i normally arrive with the intention of having OW but have on occasions changed my mind upon arrival! have always tested clear but have had aches and pains which i think as mentioned earlier is a sign of worrying and general paranoia.

SirPhilipXX

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Yes, and no.

Got an infection (gonorrhea) from OWO with a WG last year. Haven't done OWO since.

There's nothing 'safe' about OWO. Anything you can catch from barebacking, you can theoretically catch from OWO. You learn a lot, sitting in the waiting room at the GU clinic and reading all the stuff about STIs.

Which is why I find it odd and slightly hypocritical that so many people get hysterical about bareback and castigate anyone who does it, and yet maintain their apparently God-given right to OWO.

OWO isn't safe. You might think it's worth the risk, and that's your choice. But all kinds of nasties can lurk in someone's mouth and throat without them even knowing about it.

...which of course means that DFK is not exactly risk free either.

Life's a bitch aint it?

Malan7037

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Your definitely playing a risky game here! I will never have owo now from an escort again, I felt safe seeing one of my regular girls till I realised she was putting money before my health, working with a patch on her lip! Didn't notice it till after she came up for a kiss after a sloppy bj  and it was coming off. Then a few days later noticed I had little blisters  on the little fella. Trip to clinic to confirm I had herpes !!  Now have to live with it for the rest of my life as it comes and goes. Which makes it hard having  sexual relationships when it's active. Just not worth it guys !

rogerc23

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I think the sheer randomness of it is what makes it frightening,stories of guys who have caught stuff on their first punt but then there are posters on here who get upto all sorts of extreme stuff on a regular basis but have seemingly got away with it.

I think for the single over 50 brigade owo is fine but if your younger and in a relationship or plan on having one its probably not worth the risk

Offline sesalovdarlo

Lol I just realised why this person has been banned? You don't get herpes a "a few days later" more like weeks and it doesn't become that active in your life time you might get a break out ocassionay!!

Offline punk

How often do you think WGs get check ups? Must admit this has concerned me for some time, but I feel cheeky asking a girl at a booking.

for what it is worth, some escorts have told me that they have been told by some GUM'S that they should get checked every 6 months, i personally think its just the health authority trying to keep down costs.

To give the escorts some credit they have took no notice of the clinics and gone with testing every six weeks.

Offline Daffodil

for what it is worth, some escorts have told me that they have been told by some GUM'S that they should get checked every 6 months, i personally think its just the health authority trying to keep down costs.

To give the escorts some credit they have took no notice of the clinics and gone with testing every six weeks.

The trouble is you have to take their word for it. They have a vested interest in claiming they go every six weeks, doesn't mean it's the case.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

potato

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The trouble is you have to take their word for it. They have a vested interest in claiming they go every six weeks, doesn't mean it's the case.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

If they go for regular check ups then they should be able to show a long string of text messages on their phones saying "your results are fine - all negative"  I wonder how many of them can? Not that that is much guarantee as the results are out of date after the first punter they see..
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Offline punk

The trouble is you have to take their word for it. They have a vested interest in claiming they go every six weeks, doesn't mean it's the case.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

yes and thats why i said for what it is worth.

petitealice

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If you value your health as a wg you go for checks. I never do bareback, but just to be safe I go every three months. It's an easy drop in at the family planning GUM clinic. You can be in and out within fifteen mins and most results in a week. I used to go before I started escorting too, out of habit. They nagged you at uni to go every three months and I never got out of that routine.

Offline punk

May be a new source of income for British University's.

Degree's in prostitution

covering


customer service
financial start up
Marketing.
Sexual Health

What else?



Offline cunnyhunt

May be a new source of income for British University's.

Degree's in prostitution

covering


customer service
financial start up
Marketing.
Sexual Health

What else?

Looking at peoples CV's it would be another course with a high drop out rate.. :rolleyes:

Offline punk

i should think it would have to be a highly practical course, which may make it highly popular.

Offline smiths

The trouble is you have to take their word for it. They have a vested interest in claiming they go every six weeks, doesn't mean it's the case.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

Absolutely, believe NO one is my advice and look after your own sexual health as thats the only definite you have.

Still the same for me, i require OWO as OW does zero for me, so i take that risk for the reward and go to the GUM quartely to get checked out.

Offline vinnyfx101

Although I rarely log in and post* I've followed the posts on OWO and the risks with interest. Both on here and on S@afe. Sad I know to admit the latter (probably comes from a warped childhood secretly reading the more colourful articles in my sisters Cosmo. You had to get your kicks where you could in pre-internet days!).

Anyway after 25 years of punting all sorts and owo whenever it was available, more so in the last few years, I summoned up the courage to get tested at GUM in Soho (excellent, discrete by the way ) and thank god was given the all clear.

Probably lucky etc. but it makes me think that the owo risk is probably not as high as the scaremongers would have you believe. That said, having got the all clear it feels like a new slate so I'm going to abstain from now on. See how long that lasts...

* after you buggers scared the shit out of me following what I thought was a straight forward 1st review defended in a BB discussion
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=16975

Offline punk

Although I rarely log in and post* I've followed the posts on OWO and the risks with interest. Both on here and on S@afe. Sad I know to admit the latter (probably comes from a warped childhood secretly reading the more colourful articles in my sisters Cosmo. You had to get your kicks where you could in pre-internet days!).

Anyway after 25 years of punting all sorts and owo whenever it was available, more so in the last few years, I summoned up the courage to get tested at GUM in Soho (excellent, discrete by the way ) and thank god was given the all clear.

Probably lucky etc. but it makes me think that the owo risk is probably not as high as the scaremongers would have you believe. That said, having got the all clear it feels like a new slate so I'm going to abstain from now on. See how long that lasts...

* after you buggers scared the shit out of me following what I thought was a straight forward 1st review defended in a BB discussion
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=16975

luckily you used a rubber.

Offline vinnyfx101

That's true. If BB was ever offered or listed then it would be OW. Only ever have had owo if it looked "safe-ish" (which I know is highly subjective, but you know what I mean.)

SteveNova

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I prefer OWO and nearly always have that - the one time I didn't, the girl stated on her profile that she always offered OW.  In fact I've found that girls seem to assume OWO is wanted, and it's probably more enjoyable for them than the taste and feel of rubber.  I'm not complacent, but do consider the risk to be tiny - that's not to say there's no risk, and if I were in a sexual relationship I wouldn't take that risk.  The worry would be too great, but as it is I don't worry about it at all.  I guess what I'm saying is that the risk should be seen in relation to the consequences.

petitealice

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I have to say, I did have some flavoured condoms once and they were so hideous we dispensed with them. They are like chewing on a welly boot.

Offline punk

I have to say, I did have some flavoured condoms once and they were so hideous we dispensed with them. They are like chewing on a welly boot.

but a lot of WG'S including Romanians seem to just do that OW covered.Funny thing about romanians they either do every thing covered or every thing bareback, both seem to come with extras, i.e everything is extra.

Do you every worry about catching a nasty? What if the punters showing symptoms?

Offline agent47

There's nothing 'safe' about OWO. Anything you can catch from barebacking, you can theoretically catch from OWO. I get what you are saying but to get Aids or HIV from OWO is highly unlikely, unless she has bleeding gums. What about Bukkake and swallowing this is a very safe practice again as long as you are not bleeding or penetrating :unknown:

Offline Marmalade

I prefer OWO and nearly always have that - the one time I didn't, the girl stated on her profile that she always offered OW.  In fact I've found that girls seem to assume OWO is wanted, and it's probably more enjoyable for them than the taste and feel of rubber.  I'm not complacent, but do consider the risk to be tiny - that's not to say there's no risk, and if I were in a sexual relationship I wouldn't take that risk.  The worry would be too great, but as it is I don't worry about it at all.  I guess what I'm saying is that the risk should be seen in relation to the consequences.

A balanced and realistic post. Ask anyone who's clocked up 500-1000 prossie-shags and you may hear they got gonorrhea once from OWO. That's it. Cleared up after a swift GUM sesh and no harm to anyone else. Gonny is both common, highy contagious, and gets everywhere if it's present. 50% of people have a herpes virus anyway but no symptoms, so that's fairly academic. The other diseases are either rare or not as contagious. Thrush is not specific to oral and not classed as an sti but is still passed on sexually. If you are in a relationship and pass on thrush she may not know it was from you but if you care enough and feel itchy you can give it a rub with canestan cream or similar afterwards (excessive friction is a common cause, and though there are too many causes to give statistics, prossies commonly suffer from thrush*).
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I have to say, I did have some flavoured condoms once and they were so hideous we dispensed with them. They are like chewing on a welly boot.

Avoid cheap shit flavoured wellies. Fork out for some Skyns (not flavoured but very little taste). If still a problem stick some edible lube on it afterwards, or just dribble so much that any taste is washed off.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

If they paid all the tax they owed and never saw more than one punter a day they'd be pretty stoopid. Even streetlife isn't that daft.

Offline random

I know I'm in a minority in this but I can't feel much difference between OWO and OW. The most important thing to me has always been the technique. If I can feel their teeth scraping along my dick too much particularly the head then I just feel uncomfortable and I'm never gonna cum that way, doesn't matter whether it's OWO or OW. In fact I've had to stop a few in the past. I prefer a good shag (protected) or even a good oily handjob which is hard to get wrong. I'm a bit surprised how much people go on about the difference between OWO and OW but I guess we all feel things differently.

For those reasons I'd probably stick with OW in future. 

Offline Jeff_withpetersen

I know I'm in a minority in this but I can't feel much difference between OWO and OW. The most important thing to me has always been the technique. If I can feel their teeth scraping along my dick too much particularly the head then I just feel uncomfortable and I'm never gonna cum that way, doesn't matter whether it's OWO or OW. In fact I've had to stop a few in the past. I prefer a good shag (protected) or even a good oily handjob which is hard to get wrong. I'm a bit surprised how much people go on about the difference between OWO and OW but I guess we all feel things differently.

For those reasons I'd probably stick with OW in future.

 I agree - in terms of sensation, hand is better in my humble opinion.

JV547845

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They are like chewing on a welly boot.

You may want to re-think your technique.

JV547845

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I know I'm in a minority in this but I can't feel much difference between OWO and OW.

I'm in that minority too actually.  If my foreskin stays up then my glans is all good but if it's down then HJ action is required.  BJ on glans +HJ on shaft =bliss though.

petitealice

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You may want to re-think your technique.

Haha that did make me chuckle! Maybe I should've said sucking a welly boot, but I think the damned rubber was so thick I could've used a chainsaw and he wouldn't have felt it!

I have invested in some skyns as recommended. A few people have recommended them as being good. I have to rely in feedback on condoms as I don't wear them myself  :D

jcdmj12

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I find the notion of stopping just because you've caught a dose once to be strange. The odds of catching an STD are statistically independent (assuming you're not shagging the same untreated WG over and over again). Catching it today doesn't make you any more likely to catch it tomorrow, and vice-versa.

Toshiba

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Ive just gone through a massive scare.i have a partner of many years.i love my life and the sex is still pretty good but im a cheating horny fucking and thought this was a easy way to satisfy me

Till she complained of green gunk oozing from her sore fanny

It gave me a massive scare but thankfully it was bad thrush and i got tested and so did she, she was great about it but i was scared as fuck

Believe me, owo was a must for me but im never going through it again.

So unless you are prepared to lose it all , dont do it ffs

Not scare mongering, just a fact of what i went through

Offline jay0707

To be fair there's probably more risk is catching something from someone you meet from a casual one night stand and a lot of the time it'll be under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and ones inhibitions change and likely no contraception will be used. A lot of people who go on these one nighters likely do as a regular occurrence. I'd rather get OWO or Rim an escort than someone on a night out, as it's their job 9/10 they will take more time in cleaning themselves and 99.9% of the escorts out there do not do bareback.

Mancspunter

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I have always gone owo where possible for the last 8-9 years and never caught a thing, that is a LOT of blow jobs, those stats will do me nicely so I will continue to do so.
The risk is minimal, im sure if I was picking up spaced out street walkers the risk would be much higher but I don't and never have done.

Sienna_Bronze

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I've been sexually active since the age of 12 and I've never caught anything via owo, in-fact the only time I've ever given a covered blow job was through escorting. I suppose you'd need to be very unlucky to catch something this way. But just from going off my experience I won't stop offering it.


Offline Daffodil

To be fair there's probably more risk is catching something from someone you meet from a casual one night stand and a lot of the time it'll be under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and ones inhibitions change and likely no contraception will be used. A lot of people who go on these one nighters likely do as a regular occurrence. I'd rather get OWO or Rim an escort than someone on a night out, as it's their job 9/10 they will take more time in cleaning themselves and 99.9% of the escorts out there do not do bareback.

What a load of nonsense. Where are you getting your numbers from? On what basis is a one nighter "probably" more dangerous than owo off a prossie?

99.9% of prossies don't do bareback? Bullshit  :hi:

Offline punk

Haha that did make me chuckle! Maybe I should've said sucking a welly boot, but I think the damned rubber was so thick I could've used a chainsaw and he wouldn't have felt it!

I have invested in some skyns as recommended. A few people have recommended them as being good. I have to rely in feedback on condoms as I don't wear them myself  :D

put one on your finger.

Offline maxxblue

What a load of nonsense. Where are you getting your numbers from? On what basis is a one nighter "probably" more dangerous than owo off a prossie?

99.9% of prossies don't do bareback? Bullshit  :hi:

jay0707 is correct in stating that having sex is safer with a sex worker than a 'civvy'; there are studies which support this claim.

I recently read a paper reporting that prevalance rates of STD's were lower in sex workers than the general population. I can't find that particular paper, but the following paper, published via the British Medical Journal website, reports similar findings:

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Offline Daffodil

jay0707 is correct in stating that having sex is safer with a sex worker than a 'civvy'; there are studies which support this claim.

I recently read a paper reporting that prevalance rates of STD's were lower in sex workers than the general population. I can't find that particular paper, but the following paper, published via the British Medical Journal website, reports similar findings:

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The difference between your post and jay0707 is that you quote a source. His post is bullshit because he's just pulling numbers out of thin air, and presenting them as fact.

With regards your source, I think the study is self-fulfilling. Their study group is prossies who get tested regularly and are, I believe, enforced by law to wear condoms at 'work' for all sexual acts, including oral.

A more valid study, and hence source to quote, would be for all prossies (not just those who already get tested and thus show a degree of sexual health awareness) and from a country more relevant to the UK in punting terms. Australia is considered, by some, to be the exception with regards prossie STI rates and not the norm:

"Sex workers in Australia are world-renowned for having consistently low rates of sexually transmissible infections (STIs) and HIV". - External Link/Members Only

Offline jay0707

What a load of nonsense. Where are you getting your numbers from? On what basis is a one nighter "probably" more dangerous than owo off a prossie?

99.9% of prossies don't do bareback? Bullshit  :hi:

Firstly, I never stated that what I had said was a 'fact'. I may of insinuated it was, but I didn't say what I said was a fact. Do not take the numbers literally, it's merely me stating that the overwhelming majority of 'civvies' are more likely to have sexually transmitted infections than escorts who regulate their sexual well being, as they need to be healthy to work. Yes, sure there are some working girls who do not take any precautions to mitigate the likelihood of passing something onto a punter. But anecdotally (from escorts I've seen, people I know have seen, and the reviews on girls here). I can come to the assumption that the vast majority of escorts are going to be health concious and going to be physically clean and always use contraception (In this case a condom).

Average girls you'll meet on a night out are likely not going to be as concious of their sexual health of that of a working girl. What leads me to this assumption? I know students, I am a student, I've fucked students, the majority often unprotected. It's actually scary the amount of young girls that don't even consider their sexual health, just because they are on a contraceptive pill. It seems their only worry is whether they are pregnant or not, not that I may of had a sexually transmitted infection that could be a severe detriment to their sexually health in potentially the long run. Like I said before, this is entirely anecdotal.

The link I am citing below states that there was "(STI) diagnoses rose by two per cent in England in 2011, with nearly 427,000 new cases". 427,000 new cases, that's actually ridiculous. I bet that over 80% of those cases weren't found in punters, which is also possibly reflected by the age group they tested. I have no idea how things have changed in the past year or two, but I doubt it's pretty. But there are variables that affect how reliable the study is, such as the age group they tested. Why? it doesn't apply to everyone. It is also only in regards to the United Kingdom. Either way I would rather casually fuck escorts than a string of 'civvie' partners, regardless of having done both.

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Yes there are escorts who offer bareback and do not manage their sexual health as they quite frankly do not give a flying fuck about their clients, however I assume the percentage of these escorts is extremely low. Whether it is low or not, even one escort offering the service is too many.