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Author Topic: Owo the risks involved  (Read 23152 times)

Offline punk

i should think it would have to be a highly practical course, which may make it highly popular.

Offline smiths

The trouble is you have to take their word for it. They have a vested interest in claiming they go every six weeks, doesn't mean it's the case.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

Absolutely, believe NO one is my advice and look after your own sexual health as thats the only definite you have.

Still the same for me, i require OWO as OW does zero for me, so i take that risk for the reward and go to the GUM quartely to get checked out.

Although I rarely log in and post* I've followed the posts on OWO and the risks with interest. Both on here and on S@afe. Sad I know to admit the latter (probably comes from a warped childhood secretly reading the more colourful articles in my sisters Cosmo. You had to get your kicks where you could in pre-internet days!).

Anyway after 25 years of punting all sorts and owo whenever it was available, more so in the last few years, I summoned up the courage to get tested at GUM in Soho (excellent, discrete by the way ) and thank god was given the all clear.

Probably lucky etc. but it makes me think that the owo risk is probably not as high as the scaremongers would have you believe. That said, having got the all clear it feels like a new slate so I'm going to abstain from now on. See how long that lasts...

* after you buggers scared the shit out of me following what I thought was a straight forward 1st review defended in a BB discussion
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=16975

Offline punk

Although I rarely log in and post* I've followed the posts on OWO and the risks with interest. Both on here and on S@afe. Sad I know to admit the latter (probably comes from a warped childhood secretly reading the more colourful articles in my sisters Cosmo. You had to get your kicks where you could in pre-internet days!).

Anyway after 25 years of punting all sorts and owo whenever it was available, more so in the last few years, I summoned up the courage to get tested at GUM in Soho (excellent, discrete by the way ) and thank god was given the all clear.

Probably lucky etc. but it makes me think that the owo risk is probably not as high as the scaremongers would have you believe. That said, having got the all clear it feels like a new slate so I'm going to abstain from now on. See how long that lasts...

* after you buggers scared the shit out of me following what I thought was a straight forward 1st review defended in a BB discussion
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=16975

luckily you used a rubber.

That's true. If BB was ever offered or listed then it would be OW. Only ever have had owo if it looked "safe-ish" (which I know is highly subjective, but you know what I mean.)

Offline SteveNova

I prefer OWO and nearly always have that - the one time I didn't, the girl stated on her profile that she always offered OW.  In fact I've found that girls seem to assume OWO is wanted, and it's probably more enjoyable for them than the taste and feel of rubber.  I'm not complacent, but do consider the risk to be tiny - that's not to say there's no risk, and if I were in a sexual relationship I wouldn't take that risk.  The worry would be too great, but as it is I don't worry about it at all.  I guess what I'm saying is that the risk should be seen in relation to the consequences.

Offline petitealice

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I have to say, I did have some flavoured condoms once and they were so hideous we dispensed with them. They are like chewing on a welly boot.

Offline punk

I have to say, I did have some flavoured condoms once and they were so hideous we dispensed with them. They are like chewing on a welly boot.

but a lot of WG'S including Romanians seem to just do that OW covered.Funny thing about romanians they either do every thing covered or every thing bareback, both seem to come with extras, i.e everything is extra.

Do you every worry about catching a nasty? What if the punters showing symptoms?

Offline agent47

There's nothing 'safe' about OWO. Anything you can catch from barebacking, you can theoretically catch from OWO. I get what you are saying but to get Aids or HIV from OWO is highly unlikely, unless she has bleeding gums. What about Bukkake and swallowing this is a very safe practice again as long as you are not bleeding or penetrating :unknown:

Offline Marmalade

I prefer OWO and nearly always have that - the one time I didn't, the girl stated on her profile that she always offered OW.  In fact I've found that girls seem to assume OWO is wanted, and it's probably more enjoyable for them than the taste and feel of rubber.  I'm not complacent, but do consider the risk to be tiny - that's not to say there's no risk, and if I were in a sexual relationship I wouldn't take that risk.  The worry would be too great, but as it is I don't worry about it at all.  I guess what I'm saying is that the risk should be seen in relation to the consequences.

A balanced and realistic post. Ask anyone who's clocked up 500-1000 prossie-shags and you may hear they got gonorrhea once from OWO. That's it. Cleared up after a swift GUM sesh and no harm to anyone else. Gonny is both common, highy contagious, and gets everywhere if it's present. 50% of people have a herpes virus anyway but no symptoms, so that's fairly academic. The other diseases are either rare or not as contagious. Thrush is not specific to oral and not classed as an sti but is still passed on sexually. If you are in a relationship and pass on thrush she may not know it was from you but if you care enough and feel itchy you can give it a rub with canestan cream or similar afterwards (excessive friction is a common cause, and though there are too many causes to give statistics, prossies commonly suffer from thrush*).
*60% in this sample http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/proceedings/14/perkins.pdf

I have to say, I did have some flavoured condoms once and they were so hideous we dispensed with them. They are like chewing on a welly boot.

Avoid cheap shit flavoured wellies. Fork out for some Skyns (not flavoured but very little taste). If still a problem stick some edible lube on it afterwards, or just dribble so much that any taste is washed off.

Many also say they pay their tax and will only see one punter per day  :rolleyes:

If they paid all the tax they owed and never saw more than one punter a day they'd be pretty stoopid. Even streetlife isn't that daft.

Offline random

I know I'm in a minority in this but I can't feel much difference between OWO and OW. The most important thing to me has always been the technique. If I can feel their teeth scraping along my dick too much particularly the head then I just feel uncomfortable and I'm never gonna cum that way, doesn't matter whether it's OWO or OW. In fact I've had to stop a few in the past. I prefer a good shag (protected) or even a good oily handjob which is hard to get wrong. I'm a bit surprised how much people go on about the difference between OWO and OW but I guess we all feel things differently.

For those reasons I'd probably stick with OW in future. 

I know I'm in a minority in this but I can't feel much difference between OWO and OW. The most important thing to me has always been the technique. If I can feel their teeth scraping along my dick too much particularly the head then I just feel uncomfortable and I'm never gonna cum that way, doesn't matter whether it's OWO or OW. In fact I've had to stop a few in the past. I prefer a good shag (protected) or even a good oily handjob which is hard to get wrong. I'm a bit surprised how much people go on about the difference between OWO and OW but I guess we all feel things differently.

For those reasons I'd probably stick with OW in future.

 I agree - in terms of sensation, hand is better in my humble opinion.

Offline JV547845

They are like chewing on a welly boot.

You may want to re-think your technique.

Offline JV547845

I know I'm in a minority in this but I can't feel much difference between OWO and OW.

I'm in that minority too actually.  If my foreskin stays up then my glans is all good but if it's down then HJ action is required.  BJ on glans +HJ on shaft =bliss though.

Offline petitealice

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You may want to re-think your technique.

Haha that did make me chuckle! Maybe I should've said sucking a welly boot, but I think the damned rubber was so thick I could've used a chainsaw and he wouldn't have felt it!

I have invested in some skyns as recommended. A few people have recommended them as being good. I have to rely in feedback on condoms as I don't wear them myself  :D

jcdmj12

I find the notion of stopping just because you've caught a dose once to be strange. The odds of catching an STD are statistically independent (assuming you're not shagging the same untreated WG over and over again). Catching it today doesn't make you any more likely to catch it tomorrow, and vice-versa.

Offline Toshiba

Ive just gone through a massive scare.i have a partner of many years.i love my life and the sex is still pretty good but im a cheating horny fucking and thought this was a easy way to satisfy me

Till she complained of green gunk oozing from her sore fanny

It gave me a massive scare but thankfully it was bad thrush and i got tested and so did she, she was great about it but i was scared as fuck

Believe me, owo was a must for me but im never going through it again.

So unless you are prepared to lose it all , dont do it ffs

Not scare mongering, just a fact of what i went through

Offline jay0707

To be fair there's probably more risk is catching something from someone you meet from a casual one night stand and a lot of the time it'll be under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and ones inhibitions change and likely no contraception will be used. A lot of people who go on these one nighters likely do as a regular occurrence. I'd rather get OWO or Rim an escort than someone on a night out, as it's their job 9/10 they will take more time in cleaning themselves and 99.9% of the escorts out there do not do bareback.

I have always gone owo where possible for the last 8-9 years and never caught a thing, that is a LOT of blow jobs, those stats will do me nicely so I will continue to do so.
The risk is minimal, im sure if I was picking up spaced out street walkers the risk would be much higher but I don't and never have done.

Offline Sienna_Bronze

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I've been sexually active since the age of 12 and I've never caught anything via owo, in-fact the only time I've ever given a covered blow job was through escorting. I suppose you'd need to be very unlucky to catch something this way. But just from going off my experience I won't stop offering it.

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Offline Daffodil

To be fair there's probably more risk is catching something from someone you meet from a casual one night stand and a lot of the time it'll be under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and ones inhibitions change and likely no contraception will be used. A lot of people who go on these one nighters likely do as a regular occurrence. I'd rather get OWO or Rim an escort than someone on a night out, as it's their job 9/10 they will take more time in cleaning themselves and 99.9% of the escorts out there do not do bareback.

What a load of nonsense. Where are you getting your numbers from? On what basis is a one nighter "probably" more dangerous than owo off a prossie?

99.9% of prossies don't do bareback? Bullshit  :hi:

Offline punk

Haha that did make me chuckle! Maybe I should've said sucking a welly boot, but I think the damned rubber was so thick I could've used a chainsaw and he wouldn't have felt it!

I have invested in some skyns as recommended. A few people have recommended them as being good. I have to rely in feedback on condoms as I don't wear them myself  :D

put one on your finger.

Offline maxxblue

What a load of nonsense. Where are you getting your numbers from? On what basis is a one nighter "probably" more dangerous than owo off a prossie?

99.9% of prossies don't do bareback? Bullshit  :hi:

jay0707 is correct in stating that having sex is safer with a sex worker than a 'civvy'; there are studies which support this claim.

I recently read a paper reporting that prevalance rates of STD's were lower in sex workers than the general population. I can't find that particular paper, but the following paper, published via the British Medical Journal website, reports similar findings:

http://sti.bmj.com/content/81/5/434.full

Offline Daffodil

jay0707 is correct in stating that having sex is safer with a sex worker than a 'civvy'; there are studies which support this claim.

I recently read a paper reporting that prevalance rates of STD's were lower in sex workers than the general population. I can't find that particular paper, but the following paper, published via the British Medical Journal website, reports similar findings:

http://sti.bmj.com/content/81/5/434.full

The difference between your post and jay0707 is that you quote a source. His post is bullshit because he's just pulling numbers out of thin air, and presenting them as fact.

With regards your source, I think the study is self-fulfilling. Their study group is prossies who get tested regularly and are, I believe, enforced by law to wear condoms at 'work' for all sexual acts, including oral.

A more valid study, and hence source to quote, would be for all prossies (not just those who already get tested and thus show a degree of sexual health awareness) and from a country more relevant to the UK in punting terms. Australia is considered, by some, to be the exception with regards prossie STI rates and not the norm:

"Sex workers in Australia are world-renowned for having consistently low rates of sexually transmissible infections (STIs) and HIV". - http://www.afao.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/11198/Mandatory_Testing_for_HIV_and_STIs_among_Sex_Workers_-A-_Barrier-to_-Prevention.pdf.pdf

Offline jay0707

What a load of nonsense. Where are you getting your numbers from? On what basis is a one nighter "probably" more dangerous than owo off a prossie?

99.9% of prossies don't do bareback? Bullshit  :hi:

Firstly, I never stated that what I had said was a 'fact'. I may of insinuated it was, but I didn't say what I said was a fact. Do not take the numbers literally, it's merely me stating that the overwhelming majority of 'civvies' are more likely to have sexually transmitted infections than escorts who regulate their sexual well being, as they need to be healthy to work. Yes, sure there are some working girls who do not take any precautions to mitigate the likelihood of passing something onto a punter. But anecdotally (from escorts I've seen, people I know have seen, and the reviews on girls here). I can come to the assumption that the vast majority of escorts are going to be health concious and going to be physically clean and always use contraception (In this case a condom).

Average girls you'll meet on a night out are likely not going to be as concious of their sexual health of that of a working girl. What leads me to this assumption? I know students, I am a student, I've fucked students, the majority often unprotected. It's actually scary the amount of young girls that don't even consider their sexual health, just because they are on a contraceptive pill. It seems their only worry is whether they are pregnant or not, not that I may of had a sexually transmitted infection that could be a severe detriment to their sexually health in potentially the long run. Like I said before, this is entirely anecdotal.

The link I am citing below states that there was "(STI) diagnoses rose by two per cent in England in 2011, with nearly 427,000 new cases". 427,000 new cases, that's actually ridiculous. I bet that over 80% of those cases weren't found in punters, which is also possibly reflected by the age group they tested. I have no idea how things have changed in the past year or two, but I doubt it's pretty. But there are variables that affect how reliable the study is, such as the age group they tested. Why? it doesn't apply to everyone. It is also only in regards to the United Kingdom. Either way I would rather casually fuck escorts than a string of 'civvie' partners, regardless of having done both.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/NationalPressReleases/2012PressReleases/120531newrisingSTInumbersreleased/

Yes there are escorts who offer bareback and do not manage their sexual health as they quite frankly do not give a flying fuck about their clients, however I assume the percentage of these escorts is extremely low. Whether it is low or not, even one escort offering the service is too many.


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